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Title: The Town
Post by: polkablues on July 15, 2010, 11:48:33 PM
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The Town
Release Date: September 17th, 2010
Starring: Ben Affleck, Rebecca Hall, Jon Hamm, Jeremy Renner, Blake Lively, Pete Postlethwait, Chris Cooper
Directed by: Ben Affleck

Trailer here (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thetown/).


Gone Baby Gone was fantastic, and showed that Ben Affleck has potential as a director that he never had as an actor.  He's trying both at the same time in this one, and while his acting looks to be just as passable as usual, it definitely gives the impression that Gone Baby Gone wasn't just a one-off fluke.  The trailer gives it a whiff of Mann/Nolan copycattery, but damned if it doesn't look like a good copy.  It's official; this guy's a real director.  I hadn't even heard about this movie until today, and now I'm all excited for it.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Kal on July 16, 2010, 12:34:22 AM
This looks great, only problem is that they give all the shit away in the trailer.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Stefen on July 16, 2010, 01:54:11 AM
Way to ruin a potentially really great film by giving everything away. Ugh. Still looks really good, but come on. Maybe it has more going for it that it didn't show. I hope so. It looks really good.

I've always liked Affleck because he never seemed to take himself too seriously.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Kal on September 18, 2010, 08:35:40 PM
Well, after seeing it, the trailer reveals are not so bad. I mean, you pretty much know all that stuff from the get go anyhow. I'm not going to say that is a great movie, but I am impressed with Ben Affleck once again. Movie is solid, Afflecks directing is pretty good, and you can't go wrong with Jon Hamm and Jeremy Renner.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: JG on September 18, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
its pretty ridiculous and overwrought, but in a good way.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Stefen on September 18, 2010, 11:18:48 PM
It's really good, but it's not great. It's a bit over the top, but there are some really cool parts and the acting is stellar. I think Affleck is going to be a great filmmaker, but it's going to take a few more films. He could have made this really fast paced and MTV'ish, but he allows the actors to work and really takes his time with a lot of scenes which is appreciated.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: pete on September 22, 2010, 10:06:39 PM
I liked it a lot.  I like shit that makes boston look so dangerous and turns all the meatheads into these reasonably existential criminals.  it's kinda how I would wanna remember Boston except you know, it's not true.  Slaine - the getaway driver, was my boss at a college mailroom when I was in school.  he always wanted to be a hiphop star and look at him now.  sometimes things do work out.
I thought the scene around Fenway was pretty iconic.  There really hasn't been an action film set in Boston - not in the same way you have a million car chases through San Francisco or Chicago or Paris or any number of non-NYC/ LA cities that turn all dangerous and shit, this movie knocks out a few very very crowded and famous spots in Boston.  Pretty cool.  Can't wait to see Cambridge again in the Social Network.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Reel on September 24, 2010, 04:25:21 PM
Whenever I see a quote in an ad proclaiming that a movie is a mish-mash of two other great movies so if you liked them, you should go see this one ( "It's Heat meets the Departed" ) it really just discredits the whole thing for me. Oh, so it can't stand on it's own? You have to draw me in by comparing it to two other movies I liked? Then it's mediocre at best and I'll see it on someone else's dime.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: pete on September 24, 2010, 05:08:24 PM
so by the same dogma you'll see any film the ad in the paper proclaims as "utterly original" and "nothing like it"?
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: polkablues on September 24, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
I just saw it. It's a little tiny bit like Heat and not really anything at all like The Departed. It's good. Actually more Eastwood than Mann. Very measured, very assured.  Blake Lively's breasts are odd, but fascinatingly so.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Stefen on September 24, 2010, 05:44:34 PM
I love Blake Livelys boobs!
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: polkablues on September 24, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
They sit on her chest weird.  It also looks like she had the doctor go too big from what she had originally, so everything's stretched super taut; they look like you could bounce pennies off them.

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That said, I would knock over my grandmother for the chance to stand in line to bounce pennies off them.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Stefen on September 24, 2010, 07:55:46 PM
They do look weird there. White trash boobs.

I saw some pics of her in a bikini and they were glorious. I want to believe they're real.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: polkablues on September 24, 2010, 08:00:39 PM
Okay, then.  Who am I to crush a young man's romantic idealism?
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Pas on September 25, 2010, 07:25:52 AM
They're not supposed to be real if I am to follow the information I got from gravity. They still look hot cause they're not too big though, so who cares!
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: matt35mm on September 25, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
Pas, I keep reading your posts and thinking, "That doesn't sound like GT..." then realize that your avatar keeps making me think that I'm reading GT's words.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: pete on September 25, 2010, 01:45:56 PM
so if you can't see any film that claims to be like another film and you can't seem anything that people tell you is completely original, then what does your dogma allow you to see?
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: polkablues on September 25, 2010, 03:28:05 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on September 25, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
Pas, I keep reading your posts and thinking, "That doesn't sound like GT..." then realize that your avatar keeps making me think that I'm reading GT's words.

Ditto this.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Pas on September 25, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: polkablues on September 25, 2010, 03:28:05 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on September 25, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
Pas, I keep reading your posts and thinking, "That doesn't sound like GT..." then realize that your avatar keeps making me think that I'm reading GT's words.

Ditto this.

Fixed.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: Stefen on September 25, 2010, 04:38:45 PM
HAHA
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: matt35mm on September 25, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
I, sir, am honored.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: RegularKarate on November 02, 2010, 02:34:48 PM
I finally saw this yesterday (hooray for the occasional day off at my day job).

I loved the first two thirds and like most of the rest.  I was just very disappointed with the last 20 minutes.  They ended up making the cops too dumb and easy to trick and escape.  (the cops also behaved very unrealistically, but I can let that slide with this kind of movie)

There were also a few monologue moments that were just a little too poorly written (and acted, let's face it, Ben just isn't that good).

The rest though, was pretty thrilling and I'd like to see Affleck do some more straight-forward action/crime movies.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: pete on November 03, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
spoiler

the cops totally figured them out at the end and shot them down!  how were they too dumb?
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: RegularKarate on November 03, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
SPOILER
Quote from: pete on November 03, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
spoiler

the cops totally figured them out at the end and shot them down!  how were they too dumb?

Tactically, they're too dumb... they let B.A. get away too easily.  No way, they let him just walk out of there.  I'd say ESPECIALLY dressed as a cop.  Cops know one another, if they're sent in in a group of five and a completely stranger shows up in the bunch, they're going to realize it.

Also, they used a kill-shot on a man who didn't even have his gun up.  That's not realistic at all.

Like I said though, I let most of it slide, I would have just liked to have seen a less easy-to-escape situation at the end.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: pete on November 03, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
but most SWAT teams are like that - who panic and get confused and all that (vs. in Call of Duty where they have the only the most ideal executions).  The film addresses all that - the cops and the SWATs yell at each other and earlier they dressed up as cops and got the real cops to back down.  also - unarmed people get shot at all the time.  They were engaged in a firefight in which the assailant was seen with the gun.  The "killshot" didn't come from a sniper, but the dude was shot in the head amongst extreme chaos, when SWAT guys were getting shot at.  You think they'd go for his leg or something?

I actually enjoy the tactical stuff more because in movies like Miami Vice it shows only the most ideal execution in the most ideal situation, in which bad guys do all the fucking up and good guys win because the tactical advisor says so.  this one at least tries a little to capture the chaos and the shitshow of it all - when everyone from every unit swarms the place and nobody knows what the fuck is going on.  It's all addressed in the movie, and Don Draper figured that shit out quickly anyways.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: RegularKarate on November 04, 2010, 10:39:55 AM
I can overlook the killshot, but SWAT are definitely trained not to shoot in the head even during a firefight.  If an unarmed man is shot in the head, there will usually be a trial. (not saying it doesn't happen).

I still think it was way too easy for him to get away.  The set-up was so good and the situation was so tense that it was a let down that he just walked out with the cops because he had a uniform on.
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: quigliest on November 04, 2010, 11:34:06 AM
!!!!!!SPOILER ALL THE WAY THOUGH PRETTY MUCH!!!!!!

My main point of contention was the pseudo-eastwood sob-ending tacked on at the end..... with the money going to the ice rink.

Correct me if I'm wrong but surely if a large amount of money was robbed and sometime after that an ice rink gets an anonymous and inordinately large donation some eyebrows are going to be raised. Not only if is said ice rink is situated in the bank robbing capital of the America (I'm not sure how much this is true but I'll take it at face value since a movie told me it) but the renovation is dedicated after a known bank robbers mothers. A mother who, from everything we've been told, wasn't a great person. Is this supposed to make me shed a tear. Granted there was some comparisons drawn between Affleck's mother and Blake Lively's character perhaps and in a sense maybe her redeeming moment was a redeeming moment for Affleck's mother. But it seemed like a misjudged sentiment by Halls character.

That being said I really enjoyed the movie all the same. However walking out I was aware that I had found my self sniggering every time Affleck gave himself another sob story. By the third date their dropping some serious issues on the table.


Also the "sunny day" device was painful. Since it didn't work for me when it was first used and then when it comes back around, and you can see its purpose, it seems like a weak device.

I too can overlook the killshot since for me its one of the best kill-shots for me in a movie since CMBB. It may be a bit morbid and twisted to look for a really good portrayal of "Best Being Shot in the Head" but its rarely seen and you know what i mean... hopefully. Does this deserve its own thread maybe :ponder:
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: cronopio 2 on November 05, 2010, 01:51:38 AM
yeah i wanted it to feel like a super boston crime movie in the way heat is an LA crime movie, but it never got to that point of bliss and entertainment where you're saying, this is a cool city movie.
i think if the script had more scenes with the florister, chris cooper, and more barbecues or scenes at the hockey stadium for girls and boys, we might've gotten a better sense of what the story promised with its hard hitting quotes at the beginning. ben affleck's a kick-ass director tho, and it's not a bad movie (i went to see it by myself is how much i trusted it )  but i dunno, it's like a better movie got lost in the way of making this cut.


i'm drunk
Title: Re: The Town
Post by: SiliasRuby on January 02, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
I think Ben's getting better at this. His instincts are starting to sharpen but eventually if he wants to get really good his films will have to branch out so not every one of them is set in Boston. Although, if he plays it right and has the rest of his films in Boston he could be what Lynch is to LA or Woody Allen is to New York.