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Title: Machete
Post by: MacGuffin on April 24, 2009, 01:41:49 AM
Robert Rodriguez wields 'Machete'
Director plans pair of pics
Source: Variety

Robert Rodriguez is ready to cut a wide swathe, and his plans include re-launching the "Predator" franchise for Fox and co-directing "Machete."

For the later, the filmmaker will create a feature out of the blade- wielding antihero who appeared in a mock trailer that was part of "Grindhouse."

Rodriguez is eyeing a June start date in Austin for "Machete," a film that is financed and produced by Overnight Productions, with Danny Trejo starring as the title character.

Machete is a Mexican ex-Federale with a gift for wielding a blade, who hides out as a day laborer, who is double-crossed by a corrupt state senator.

Rodriguez wrote the script and will direct the film with Ethan Maniquis, his longtime editor. The film is being produced by Rodriguez, Rick Schwartz of Overnight Productions and Aaron Kaufman.

Not immediately clear is whether Rodriguez and Overnight will find a way to use the irresistible marketing slogan that appeared in the "Grindhouse" trailer: "This time, they fucked with the wrong Mexican." It is the first non-studio movie that Rodriguez has directed since "El Mariachi."

For Fox, Rodriguez has scripted "Predators," a film that will bring back the dreadlock-sporting alien hunter who originated in the 1987 Arnold Schwarzenegger hit "Predator." While a sequel didn't become a hit, Fox kept the alien sharp by launching the "Alien Vs. Predator," a wildly profitable series that has racked up strong grosses and DVD sales, wit little or no gross out the door.

While Rodriguez juggles these projects, he's also directing his script "Nerveracker" for Dimension Films, with Bob Weinstein setting a 2010 release for the futuristic action thriller.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: RegularKarate on April 24, 2009, 12:43:55 PM
Robert!  You and Eli need to move on from the fake trailers into movies thing.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: modage on April 24, 2009, 02:02:15 PM
we should chop rodriguez out of the directors forum.  probably tarantino next once when get confirmation that basterds sux.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 24, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: modage on April 24, 2009, 02:02:15 PM
we should chop rodriguez out of the directors forum.  probably tarantino next once when get confirmation that basterds sux.

Hear hear! Then add a poll to see what new director deserves one.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: New Feeling on April 24, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
you guys suck. 




Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pozer on April 24, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: modage on April 24, 2009, 02:02:15 PM
we should chop rodriguez out of the directors forum.  probably tarantino next once when get confirmation that basterds sux and add Malick for godsakes!

Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 24, 2009, 03:09:33 PM
Malick does seem to be the next consensus director, but I'm not sure he would get the fanfair to warrant an entire forum. He could be mixed with Martin Scorsese because both filmmakers predominantly came out of the 1970s.

Even though this goes against what I stand for, but we could make a forum for "shunned" or "crap" filmmakers. A top 3 or 5 of filmmakers XIXAX is against based on standards. It would be arrogant and somewhat ridiculous, but it could be funny. The hilarity possibilities would be why I would recommend it.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pas on April 24, 2009, 03:09:48 PM
hahaha I was about to say : ''Malick's century'' yet Robert fucking Rodriguez has a forum and not him pfff

then again Malick makes a movie every hundred years so
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: hedwig on April 24, 2009, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Gold Trumpet on April 24, 2009, 03:09:33 PM
The hilarity possibilities would be why I would recommend it.
hahha.. classic GT.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: MacGuffin on April 16, 2010, 09:25:57 PM
Fox's 'Machete' gets release date
Rodriquez-helmed film set to bow September 3
Source: Variety

Twentieth Century Fox and Robert Rodriquez will wield their machetes over Labor Day weekend.

Studio has set Rodriguez and Ethan Maniquis' "Machete" for release in theaters on Sept. 3. Pic is based on Rodriguez's fake trailer for "Grindhouse."

Rodriguez and Maniquis co-directed the film from Rodriquez's script.

"Machete" stars Danny Trejo as a blade-wielding Mexican ex-Federale who is double-crossed by a crooked politician. Robert De Niro, Jessica Alba, Michelle Rodriquez and Lindsay Lohan also star.

Producers are Rodriquez, Rick Schwartz, Aaron Kaufman, Iliana Nikolic and Elizabeth Avellan.The "Machete" trailer generated big interest when airing on YouTube. The feature-length version was financed by Overnight Prods., who sold off international rights to Sony and several territory distributors. That provided the bulk of the money needed to shoot the film, which Rodriguez lensed last fall in Austin, Texas.

Labor Day weekend is a popular frame for genre films. Also opening that weekend is Sony's comedy "Born to Be a Star." Two days earlier, Focus Features' opens George Clooney pic "The American."

"Machete" reunites Fox and Rodriguez, who worked on the "Predators" franchise together.

In January, Fox won a bidding war to distribute the film domestically, beating out Paramount and Lionsgate.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: MacGuffin on May 05, 2010, 07:54:16 PM
Red Band Trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnOczvV5Arc)
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pubrick on May 05, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
that looks like the worst movie ever made.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Alexandro on May 05, 2010, 10:42:33 PM
it looks fun but hopefully it wont take the "churro" argument too seriously like once upon a time in mexico.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pas on May 20, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: P on May 05, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
that looks like the worst movie ever made.

Are you kidding? I've just watched this trailer for the first time and I think it looks pretty great. Of course these kinds of things are less funny when they're intentional but the action looks great, Seagal seems to look good with these swords.

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: RegularKarate on May 20, 2010, 01:08:26 PM
I hate the trailer.

The faux old film look is so poorly handled and forced.
And what the fuck is up with shooting in front of the most disgusting Austin landmarks?  Especially when you want a 70's feel, don't show the fucking Frost tower.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Stefen on May 20, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
lol@the immigration angle.

Robert Rodriguez is in way over his head. On the flipside, at least the jock meathead audience he caters to will put the nooses away for awhile.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pas on May 20, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: Robert Rodriguez on Ain't it Cool
I probably should have added a note at the end of it saying "IGNORE MR. TRAILER VOICE, this is NOT A REAL TRAILER to MACHETE."

Maybe it'll look better than that fake trailer (again?). I don't know, it looks like good action.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pubrick on May 20, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
yeah here's hoping.

i don't think Robert Rodriguez can't make a good movie, but he seems to be influenced too much by QT lately and that can never be a good thing.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Robyn on May 20, 2010, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: P on May 20, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
yeah here's hoping.

i don't think Robert Rodriguez can't make a good movie, but he seems to be influenced too much by QT lately and that can never be a good thing.

Really? It's pretty much the opposite.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pubrick on May 20, 2010, 06:43:38 PM
Quote from: KarlJan on May 20, 2010, 06:42:48 PM
Really? It's pretty much the opposite.

no, it's the opposite of that.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Kal on May 20, 2010, 07:09:02 PM
I think this looks great...
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: MacGuffin on July 14, 2010, 11:41:03 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filmschoolrejects.com%2Fimages%2F42824.jpg&hash=39b7239a19a7d8b6aa45da02c5684e48893b336e)
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New Trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CMnhYkjmE)
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Kal on July 15, 2010, 12:38:20 AM
Poor Lindsay...
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: cinemanarchist on July 15, 2010, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: kal on July 15, 2010, 12:38:20 AM
Poor Lindsay...
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.nydailynews.com%2Fimg%2F2010%2F07%2F15%2Falg_lohan_sister.jpg&hash=6619124fc3187750c2225b597ac7b675c8ea86bd)

Couldn't find the full-size.

Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Kal on September 03, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
This KICKS ASS. It's a lot of fun. One of Robert's best for sure. You guys will probably hate it but I thought it was awesome.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: modage on September 03, 2010, 05:24:03 PM
After the first 20 min I thought it was kind of boring.   :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Kal on September 03, 2010, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: modage on September 03, 2010, 05:24:03 PM
After the first 20 min I thought it was kind of boring.   :yabbse-undecided:

Really? It's not super long and it doesn't really stop to become boring. Yes, its a lot of the same happening over and over, but fun stuff.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: JG on September 04, 2010, 03:17:33 AM
i agree i was surprised and conflicted by how much i liked it.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pwaybloe on September 04, 2010, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: kal on September 03, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
This KICKS ASS. It's a lot of fun. One of Robert's best for sure. You guys will probably hate it but I thought it was awesome.

I'm going to guess you are going to love this:

"Hobo With A Shotgun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CROq3yeqdRo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CROq3yeqdRo)

(I'll admit it does look interesting)

For reference:
http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=8588.msg241182#msg241182 (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=8588.msg241182#msg241182)
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Pubrick on September 04, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
Robert Deniro is in it?

You must be an idiot.

The movie is guaranteed to be a piece of shit, if not the worst film of all time.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: modage on September 04, 2010, 06:10:29 PM
While I'll admit there is something to be said for backwards engineering an entire film around a series of nonsense scenes, the film gets bogged down with a heavy-handed political plot that involves too much exposition and not enough action.  At almost two hours the movie feels really long for what should have been a breezy 80 minutes.  Trejo is good in the lead but it feels like Rodriguez really slapped this one together, even bringing in his editor as co-director.  Isn't this the guy that would write/direct/score/edit his own movies?
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 07, 2010, 01:25:21 AM
I loved this except I wish it was a gritty looking as the Grindhouse trailer (albeit fake trailer) made it appear to be.  Films don't have balls anymore, they always try to be so god damned polished that they can't embrace an aesthetic.  They want to teeter on the line, but then cut all the corners that actually give it any  fucking edge.

Everything was in the script to make this a full bodied exploitation film on par with recent greats like Black Dynamite and Viva, but it loses the pastiche and just looks like a sloppy homage.  The CGI is just too much and too cartoony and it makes the deaths less serious.  People just die in this, but I just imagine dudes falling over and then other dudes later using computer programs to digitally float knives jutting out of them and blood spurting out.  It seemed lazy and bogged down every kill (of which, there are very, very many).

That being said, I still thought this was pretty great.  Predictable plot twists but executed with such prowess that they worked.  I almost viewed this the way I saw MacGruber, it touched all the bases in its own way and Danny Trejo just totally annihilates the screen.  I feel he really rocked that scarred mug for all it was worth in this.

Could've used more tits if anything.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: brockly on September 07, 2010, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: // w ø l r å s on September 07, 2010, 01:25:21 AM
I loved this except I wish it was a gritty looking as the Grindhouse trailer (albeit fake trailer) made it appear to be.  Films don't have balls anymore, they always try to be so god damned polished that they can't embrace an aesthetic.  They want to teeter on the line, but then cut all the corners that actually give it any  fucking edge.

haha what are you saying here? going by the trailer, the only difference between the look of the feature film and the fake trailer was that they eased off that bullshit flickering and graininess. did you really want to sit through 2 hours of that? why would u want the film to look like shit? if a film needs to look old in order to embrace an aesthetic, i don't think that film has any worth (i'm talking strictly about the quality, not the style). i agree with what you said about CGI tho, i don't think there's anything worse than bad CGI.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: MacGuffin on September 08, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
If you're looking for the film that was promised in Grindhouse, it's here... and yet, not. Certainly all the scenes teased in the "trailer" are shown, but the B-movie that got everyone excited enough to turn this into a reality is missing. This could have been a perfect Machete as Shaft-type Mex-plotation flick, but instead Rodriguez pushes his message across to the forefront, leaving the camp and fun on the backburner. Machete is like Once Upon A Time In Mexico Lite, using multiple storylines and a convoluted plot instead of keeping things simple and letting the action and a very likable hero be the stars.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 09, 2010, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: brockly on September 07, 2010, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: // w ø l r å s on September 07, 2010, 01:25:21 AM
I loved this except I wish it was a gritty looking as the Grindhouse trailer (albeit fake trailer) made it appear to be.  Films don't have balls anymore, they always try to be so god damned polished that they can't embrace an aesthetic.  They want to teeter on the line, but then cut all the corners that actually give it any  fucking edge.

haha what are you saying here? going by the trailer, the only difference between the look of the feature film and the fake trailer was that they eased off that bullshit flickering and graininess. did you really want to sit through 2 hours of that? why would u want the film to look like shit? if a film needs to look old in order to embrace an aesthetic, i don't think that film has any worth (i'm talking strictly about the quality, not the style). i agree with what you said about CGI tho, i don't think there's anything worse than bad CGI.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a dingy aesthetic.  The bullshit flickering and graininess can be done well, it doesn't need to look old, but looking new dodges the aesthetic itself... which isn't a bad deal necessarily, but look at House of the Devil.  They shot a film that looks exactly like a slasher, but it was made a couple years ago.  They really nailed the pastiche.

The CG as well was a nail in the eye that could've otherwise worked in their favor to work lo-budget.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: Gloria on September 12, 2010, 03:24:28 AM
I think I watched only 60% of this movie -- the rest of the time, I had my hands over my eyes.  Now, don't get me wrong, I've seen my share of violent movies -- but this one was merciless!  It was gleefully brutal, but there was too much of it, making the running time about 30 minutes too long.  I thought Don Johnson and Michelle Rodriguez were the stand outs in this (And Jeff Fahey has the most memorizing eyes ever).  I also learned a creative place to store a cell phone.  I wonder if she had it set to vibrate...
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: RegularKarate on September 13, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
I thought that there were some really awesome moments in the movie, but the moments that weren't awesome, were completely boring.

I appreciate the attempt with this one.  I like ridiculous movies that push the envelope of ridiculousness.  I just think it takes a different approach.  It still wanted to take itself seriously in parts.  Oh well.  I still had fun.

One thing that bugged me was, being from Austin, I could tell where every single scene was shot.  This could have been taken care of by re-framing a lot of the shots.  It took me out of it.
Title: Re: Machete
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 13, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on September 13, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
One thing that bugged me was, being from Austin, I could tell where every single scene was shot.  This could have been taken care of by re-framing a lot of the shots.  It took me out of it.

I'm sure some people absolutely loved that aspect, though.  Taking pride in their city and what have you.  But I can see what you're saying.  When I see movies made in Chicago, depending on the capitalization of the Sears tower or other landmarks, it can be quite a tourist city or a photogenic city.  Just depends on how it's shot.