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Title: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on April 23, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
Fox, Rodriguez Rebooting Predator Series
Source: IESB

Robert Rodriguez and 20th Century Fox are giving Predator a facelift in a new film entitled Predators. First reported by Bloody-Disgusting in January, the official announcement came today via a news conference today at the Texas-based Troublemaker Studios where Rodriguez was on hand for the signing of a new state film incentive.

"I'm going to be able to shoot my upcoming 'Machete' here, a sci-fi action film called 'Nerverackers,' a re-boot of the 'Predator' series called 'Predators,' and a couple of smaller movies called 'Sin City 2' and 'The Jetsons,'" he told the press.

If you recall, Rodriguez penned a Predator 3 script some time ago that was discarded because it was "too big."
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on April 29, 2009, 11:02:15 AM
Robert Rodriguez explains his vision for Predators
Source: SciFi Wire

Robert Rodriguez, who is developing a reboot/re-imagined film called Predators for Fox, told Ain't It Cool News that the movie is a sequel set on a jungle-like Predator planet.

"With a nod toward [James] Cameron's Aliens, I decided to call it Predators," Rodriguez told the site.

Rodriguez (Sin City) added: "Predator is a masterpiece of the action/science fiction genre. It's been borrowed from so much in other movies and even video games (that will now probably be turned into movies themselves) that I liked the idea that we could have Predators made relatively quickly. What I'd like to do with it is expand on ideas I dreamt up back in the original treatment, that had really expanded on the universe both the Predators and other species live in.

"We'd create new otherworldly characters while not taking away from the draw our main Predator has. I think another reason I called it Predators was to mark it as a project that should be taken seriously by a filmmaker to make a worthy follow-up to a classic, much in the way Cameron made Aliens a compelling work on its own, following Ridley Scott's Alien."

The writer/director added that his treatment envisioned an R-rated movie. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on June 12, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
Neil Marshall in Talks to Direct 'Predators'
by Peter Martin; Cinematical

My principles may be crumbling, just a little. Neil Marshall is in talks to direct Predators, according to Bloody Disgusting, citing an anonymous tipster. At this point, it's very much a rumor -- for all we know, Marshall was visiting a friend in the commissary at 20th Century Fox and was seen in close proximity to an executive -- but of all the possible candidates to helm a sequel to the alien hunter franchise, I'd definitely be down with Marshall.

He has three features to his credit: The Descent is the best and most widely-acclaimed, a feverish nightmare in which a group of women explore a cave and discover deadly denizens, to their dismay. I got a huge kick out of the bloody, funny, pulse-pounding Dog Soldiers, featuring Scottish soldiers on a training run who encounter werewolves, and, though I was decidedly in the minority, really enjoyed the post-Apocalyptic action epic Doomsday. The latter was his first with a Hollywood studio (Rogue Pictures). Upcoming is his "old-style swords 'n' armor action epic" Centurion, which looks promising but doesn't yet have US distribution.

Robert Rodriguez is on board to produce. Predators is already set to be released on July 7, 2010, so Fox will have to make a decision soon. Marshall has always written his own scripts; if this rumor proves to be true, either he'll have to pound out a rewrite in a hurry or take what Fox gives him. Considering the track records of Marshall and Fox, there's reason for both optimism ... and despair.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on July 02, 2009, 12:22:52 AM
Predators Director Confirmed By Rodriguez
Source: ComingSoon

Ain't it Cool News' Harry Knowles gave a ring to Robert Rodriguez to get confirmation on who's at the helm of Predators, 20th Century Fox's next film in the franchise. And it is Nimrod Antal, the man behind the upcoming action flick Armored and who last dabbled in the thriller genre with Vacancy. You'll recall Latino Review broke Antal's potential involvement here.

Rodriguez, who is shepherding the project, says the story involves "a very intense group of people stranded on a Predator planet discovering unspeakable horrors - that are not always from outside their group. So like the original movie, the title does have a double meaning. 'Aliens' was a different take on the Alien idea, and an original movie in it's own right, and that's what we want to do with this."

The film is a Troublemaker Studios production.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on July 02, 2009, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on April 23, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
If you recall, Rodriguez penned a Predator 3 script some time ago that was discarded because it was "too big."

Was this leaked?
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on October 06, 2009, 08:46:42 PM
Adrien Brody to star in 'Predators'; Topher Grace in negotiations to join him
Source: Hollywood Reporter

Hollywood's lining up to be hunted!

Adrien Brody is boarding to star in "Robert Rodriguez's Predators," Fox's reboot of the sci-fi franchise being directed by Nimrod Antal. Rodriguez is producing with Elizabeth Avellan.

Topher Grace is in negotiations to join the action-adventure movie, to which Alice Braga ("I Am Legend"), Mahershalalhashbaz Ali ("The 4400"), Walt Goggins ("The Shield"), Rodriguez mainstay Danny Trejo and UFC fighter Oleg Taktarov have also been cast.

Written by Rodriguez, Alex Litvak and Michael Finch, the script follows a group of elite warrior-types who are being hunted by members of a race of merciless alien trackers called Predators.

Brody is a man who ends up inheriting the mantle of leader and is known as a hunter of men. Grace would play an accountant-type whose unassuming facade masks a dangerous serial killer.

Braga is the tough female killer. Ali is a man not afraid to die, Goggins is the loose canon of the group and Taktarov is a former Russian special ops agent.

Trejo, already cast, is Cuchillo, a hardened warrior with twin uzis strapped to his back.

Shooting begins next month in Hawaii then moves to moves to Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios in Austin. The movie is slated for a July 9, 2010, release. 

Brody was last seen in Dario Argento's "Giallo" and next voices the character of Rickity in Wes Anderson's "The Fantastic Mr. Fox." Grace will next be seen in New Line's ensemble romantic comedy "Valentine's Day."
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on October 07, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
no comments on this?

This is interesting to me that Rodriguez is taking the franchise on, and Planet Terror is the only movie of his I've seen from beginning to end I think.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: RegularKarate on October 07, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 07, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
no comments on this?

This is interesting to me that Rodriguez is taking the franchise on, and Planet Terror is the only movie of his I've seen from beginning to end I think.

Why?  Do you walk out of his other movies?

He's not directing this one anyway.

A friend (of a friend, really) of mine works for Troublemaker and said they are building (or built) a river of blood for this.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on October 07, 2009, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on October 07, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: bigideas on October 07, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
no comments on this?

This is interesting to me that Rodriguez is taking the franchise on, and Planet Terror is the only movie of his I've seen from beginning to end I think.

Why?  Do you walk out of his other movies?

He's not directing this one anyway.

A friend (of a friend, really) of mine works for Troublemaker and said they are building (or built) a river of blood for this.

oops. i didn't read well enough. the last article just says he wrote it and i just assumed he was directing it (but i see above they name someone else).

re: his other movies

i guess the prior ones didn't interest me enough to go see them or rent them (and his current ones have mostly been kid movies), but i've seen bits on tv over the years.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: pete on October 07, 2009, 03:31:11 PM
dude sincity's one of the best.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: 72teeth on October 07, 2009, 03:52:43 PM
yeah man, its pretty cool.
definitely something i'd like to watch for the first time again...
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: squints on October 07, 2009, 03:55:55 PM
Sin City is great but Once Upon a Time in Mexico is really really really bad.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: 72teeth on October 07, 2009, 04:18:32 PM
yeah, dont fuckin see that one... ive never been huge on Desperado either but it has some genuine moments. But From Dusk til' Dawn is super badass! Fuck Sincity, see Dusk til' Dawn.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Stefen on October 07, 2009, 06:01:01 PM
His movies were awesome when I was a kid. Loved his flicks as a teenager. Now? No thanks.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: brockly on October 07, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
yeah. Rodriguez is like a talentless tarantino. the existence of this movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/) in particular makes me want to smack that stupid hat off his head. i wouldn't hurt him though, he's got kids.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on October 08, 2009, 08:43:27 AM
Quote from: brockly on October 07, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
yeah. Rodriguez is like a talentless tarantino. the existence of this movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/) in particular makes me want to smack that stupid hat off his head. i wouldn't hurt him though, he's got kids.

That actually looks like a fun grindhouse send up - the trailer was anyway.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on December 18, 2009, 12:25:39 AM
Laurence Fishburne to Fight Predators
Source: ComingSoon

ShockTillYouDrop.com reports that Laurence Fishburne ("CSI," "The Matrix" trilogy) has joined the cast of Robert Rodriguez's Predators, now filming in Texas under the direction of Nimrod Antal.

Fishburne is playing a character named Roland in the film. He joins a cast that includes Adrien Brody, Topher Grace, Danny Trejo, Walton Goggins and Alice Braga.

They play a disparate group of people who land on the Predator home planet only to discover "unspeakable horrors."

20th Century Fox is targeting a July 7, 2010 release for the film.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on March 15, 2010, 01:12:59 AM
SXSW Preview here. (http://www.predators-movie.com/)
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on March 18, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Trailer here. (http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/429477/predator-3/videos/predators_trl1_031810.html)
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Pubrick on March 18, 2010, 10:44:30 PM
oh, i was hoping for some more scandalous news about disgruntled 80s actors/directors coming out of nowhere to duke it out with studios a la Reitman and Crispin Glover, like maybe the original predator resurfaced to say that all the sequels have sucked but he's slightly amused by the casting of this new film:

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" i'm glad to see tv personality Topher Grace back in the spotlight, i always found him the most likable out of The 1970s Program, unlike that wilmer valderama now there is a human i would like to point three red dots at and promptly destroy.. and don't get me started on ashton. anyway i saw every episode of that show in its original run between 2998-3006, as you can see i've let myself go a bit! i hope topher and his equally good natured friend adrien brody bring the predator series back to its family-friendly origins. very few people know this, but that mud arnie buried himself in was actually one of the most luxurious mud-bath facilities in the local jungle area.. that was a great shoot, no expenses spared. unfortunately they went the cheap route in the sequels.. even fewer people know that i was in fact offered a salary of less than half what every human in the film was making, and to think i was the only principal returning! finally i walked out on the deal and Jeffrey Weissman was hired to play me using nose and chin prosthetics, come to think of it - i should sue the studio over this! honey, hand me the yellow pages and open it to 'S', i need to find a single female lawyer. "
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: polkablues on March 18, 2010, 11:03:47 PM
I'm over the tables already.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Pubrick on March 18, 2010, 11:16:46 PM
gee thanks.

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Quote from: ρ on March 16, 2010, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: ρ on March 03, 2007, 02:48:30 AM
and now i kill myself.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: polkablues on March 19, 2010, 12:49:48 AM
It was a wild ride.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on March 19, 2010, 01:25:24 PM
So, wait, p hijacks a type of formatting with a bad joke and as a result, delegitimizes tables?

I have lost all faith in the rotating headlines.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: polkablues on March 19, 2010, 03:27:31 PM
The joke was good. The tables are annoying. (although p might have inadvertantly saved the table format with his Ringo post... Small captions are a much better use for it than long paragraphs)
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Stefen on March 19, 2010, 03:34:44 PM
I hate that format.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Fernando on March 19, 2010, 04:23:44 PM
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<--- hey stefen, im waiting for u
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Stefen on March 19, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Is this a trap so you can taunt me with, "sloppy seconds! sloppy seconds!"

*shrug* it's worth it.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: MacGuffin on June 24, 2010, 03:33:19 PM
International Trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNjyyU7lDs)
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Stefen on July 10, 2010, 11:00:40 PM
This was fucking awesome.

It's a really good time. I love the way it opens. Just throws you right in.

Anyone else see this?
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Kal on July 10, 2010, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Stefen on July 10, 2010, 11:00:40 PM
This was fucking awesome.

It's a really good time. I love the way it opens. Just throws you right in.

Anyone else see this?

Yes. It's great. Nimrod is THE MAN.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: Myxo on July 11, 2010, 11:33:16 PM
This was preeeeettty bad. Random thoughts, spoilers, etc..

At one point Brody is quoting Hemmingway. The whole build up to actual action with the predators took way too long. They tried to tackle this like the audience had never seen these strange aliens before. This version of the movie brings back that asian chick Arnold rescues in the jungle from #1. She warns all of them that the creatures can see in infrared. She even mentions they should cover their skin with mud to avoid being seen. Which of course nobody does until Brody's silly 1v1 at the end. Too many retarded sterotypes. Like the human "monster" team has a doctor. So obviously he has a scalpel on him. That would be the weapon which goes with his "profession". So what does the prison inmate have! You guessed it, a shank! Really really lame. The whole inter-species battle between the Predator 1 bad guys and the bigger, nastier Predator 2 bad guys makes no sense. It's just mentioned in passing and they move on. Fishburne must have been paid by the hour or something because he's on screen for like 20 minutes. Just enough to lend his face to the film. In those 20 minutes he channels his inner Tim Robbins from War of the Worlds. That's not a compliment. All of this and you really don't get to see much of the predators at all. Oh and Topher Grace STILL looks like I want to punch him in the face every time he talks.

That's my review.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on July 12, 2010, 09:53:17 AM
***spoilers***

i also loved the opening.......but that's about it.

i think the battle between the two species is what happens towards the end when the two predators face - notice how the 'classic' predator was tied up and then the other takes off it's mask and looks different - maybe they are hoping to go with this newer predator in sequels - the ending leads me to believe so.

the ending - it is a nice artsy way to end, though knowing the taste for sequels i think it was more done to leave that open, than to be bold with an ending.

in a way, i was sad brody's character lived - it would seem less cliche' for the woman to somehow come out on top, defeating topher in the pit and somehow defeating the predator.

maybe that's why the sequels can never work like the original - part of the original is the mystique of what the hell the predator actually is.

most reviews i read seem to say Predator 2 was an inferior sequel. honestly, i've only seen the first 2 on cable tv edited and never from beginning to end. i remember the apartment, meat house and final predator spaceship scenes all to be very memorable. maybe if i rewatched it now in sequence from beginning to end i would feel differently.

and for Fishburne to last that long - an incredible feat no doubt - and then just casually walk out in the open when he knows a predator will be there and just blow him up is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: polkablues on July 12, 2010, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: bigideas on July 12, 2010, 09:53:17 AMi also loved the mise en scene opening

I think you mean "in media res".
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: tpfkabi on July 12, 2010, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: polkablues on July 12, 2010, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: bigideas on July 12, 2010, 09:53:17 AMi also loved the mise en scene opening

I think you mean "in media res".

ok. guess i've had the wrong definition of that phrase all along.

i coulda swore that someone referred to the opening of Vertigo - in the middle of a chase on a rooftop as Mise en scene - so i think that's where i get it from.

oh well. at the end of the day, you know what i mean...or as Oasis say it, "d'ya know what i mean? yeah yeah."
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: matt35mm on July 12, 2010, 02:37:59 PM
I believe mise en scene just means "everything that makes up the scene," such that in every given moment, the set design, actor blocking, and shot choices combine together to create the mise en scene.  So somebody may have been discussing the mise en scene of the opening of Vertigo, analyzing the construction of the scene/set piece.

In media res means "in the middle of things," such as opening in the middle of a chase scene.
Title: Re: Predators
Post by: diggler on October 09, 2010, 11:15:43 PM
minor spoilers

just got around to seeing this. as others have said, the opening and closing of the film had a nice sense of campy immediacy that the rest of the film never lives up to. i don't understand what Lawrence Fishburne was doing in this movie, other than to have a cool introduction. his character twist was too similar to Topher Grace's, and it was just as implausibly spontaneous. the cast gelled nicely though, and i can buy Brody as an action star, even if his shirtless reveal made me giggle a little bit.

there's also holes in logic all over the place ("the sun hasn't moved since we got here, oh hey it's nighttime!) but even with all it's flaws it's still the second best Predator movie. Danny Trejo's postmortem "help me" was a memorably spooky moment, and the sword fight scene was really well shot (loved that bird's eye angle with the flowing high grass). there's nice little moments like this scattered throughout the film. it's worth seeing.