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Title: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on November 06, 2008, 11:46:34 PM
Spielberg, Smith in talks for 'Oldboy'
Pair may kidnap remake of Korean drama
Source: Variety

Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are in early discussions to collaborate on a remake of Chan Wook-park's "Oldboy." DreamWorks is in the process of securing the remake rights, and the new pic will be distributed by Universal.

In the 2003 Korean original, a man gets kidnapped and held in a shabby cell for 15 years without explanation. Suddenly, he's released and given money, a cell phone and clothes and is set on a path to discover who destroyed his life so he can take revenge.

Spielberg had been looking for an opportunity to make a film with Smith, who would play the kidnapped man if all the pieces fall into place. Spielberg is looking for a writer to begin the development process.

The film was originally set at U and then found its way to Mandate.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Alexandro on November 07, 2008, 12:29:45 AM
this is an amazingly shitty idea.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: squints on November 07, 2008, 12:09:10 PM
Spielberg directing Oldboy? Maybe. Sounds interesting.


Either way, screw this goddamn fucking bullshit.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Alexandro on November 07, 2008, 12:36:41 PM
it's the combination of spielberg and will smith remaking it that can only suck. it will be all about daddy issues and more daddy issues as usual.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Stefen on November 07, 2008, 01:21:04 PM
Great. These two dickheads are going to pour on the saccharine. Spielberg needs to stay away from cool shit and just stick to proper historical shit. When he tries to be cool, he fails.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 07, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
I didn't like the original so Speilberg isn't stomping on sacred ground, but I don't know how he would adapt it. Nothing about the film suggests a Speilberg picture in the making so I am interested.  Every ten years he seems to show hints of personality growth in his films so this could be something. I certainly won't write it off now.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Pozer on November 07, 2008, 03:25:59 PM
Quote from: squints on November 07, 2008, 12:09:10 PM
Either way, screw this goddamn fucking bullshit.

screw using the word fuck in nearly every post..

Quote from: squints on August 29, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
Fuck yeah!

Quote from: squints on September 03, 2008, 12:09:38 PM
FUCK YEAH!!!

Quote from: squints on September 03, 2008, 01:35:32 PM
Why is fucking awesome.

Quote from: squints on September 17, 2008, 12:06:47 PM
Bad fuckin ass man.

Quote from: squints on September 25, 2008, 03:36:54 PM
fuck.

fuck this state.

Quote from: squints on September 26, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
Fuckin a.

Quote from: squints on October 15, 2008, 11:57:22 AM
Fuck yeah Motorhead!

Quote from: squints on October 15, 2008, 12:46:35 PM
Fuck Ryan Adams too.

Quote from: squints on October 17, 2008, 10:52:32 AM
Fuck yeah!

Quote from: squints on October 24, 2008, 03:23:10 PM
What the fuck is this?

Quote from: squints on October 30, 2008, 11:59:38 AM
god dammit. god dammit. god dammit. quite fucking with my childhood. 
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Stefen on November 07, 2008, 03:40:38 PM
squints is the man.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Fernando on November 07, 2008, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: Stefen on November 07, 2008, 03:40:38 PM
squints is the fucking man.

fixed
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 07, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
I can imagine Smith being in it easier than Spielberg directing, but who knows. I think he can do something good with this, but I love the original, so I'll want this to be really good.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: modage on November 07, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
we should merge this with the tarantino thread because it aint never gonna happen.  the closest thing to a reality would be spielberg producing through dreamworks or something but he will never direct this.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Alexandro on November 08, 2008, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 07, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
I didn't like the original so Speilberg isn't stomping on sacred ground, but I don't know how he would adapt it. Nothing about the film suggests a Speilberg picture in the making so I am interested.  Every ten years he seems to show hints of personality growth in his films so this could be something. I certainly won't write it off now.

it isn't really about sacred ground. Oldboy is not a favorite of mine either. I prefer Mrs. Vengeance in any case. But the whole idea sounds like a big mistake. I love Spielberg, but he's just unable to restrain himself on certain subjects and with Smith in the combination, we're prpbably going to see a two hours and half new Oldboy, form which 2 hours will be some gory gruesome violence, and then some sappy sugarcoated last half hour in which everything suddenly goes right. Like in War of the Worlds.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: JG on November 08, 2008, 02:39:01 PM
i was telling somebody about this last night but i accidentally said old joy.. a will smith-steven spielberg production of old joy is kind of a funny thing to think about.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 08, 2008, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on November 08, 2008, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 07, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
I didn't like the original so Speilberg isn't stomping on sacred ground, but I don't know how he would adapt it. Nothing about the film suggests a Speilberg picture in the making so I am interested.  Every ten years he seems to show hints of personality growth in his films so this could be something. I certainly won't write it off now.

it isn't really about sacred ground. Oldboy is not a favorite of mine either. I prefer Mrs. Vengeance in any case. But the whole idea sounds like a big mistake. I love Spielberg, but he's just unable to restrain himself on certain subjects and with Smith in the combination, we're prpbably going to see a two hours and half new Oldboy, form which 2 hours will be some gory gruesome violence, and then some sappy sugarcoated last half hour in which everything suddenly goes right. Like in War of the Worlds.

Indeed that is the worry, but I'm still hopeful. A remake of Old Boy has much more interest than War of the Worlds. Speilberg did his best to implant a human story into that oversized disaster film. At least with Old Boy you have a story that has the genesis of a human story. All Speilberg would have to do is keep his action forefather Akira Kurosawa in mind to make the film a good vehicle for a remake. Speilberg would tone down the violence and elaborate on the human element of the story.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on November 19, 2008, 12:24:02 AM
DreamWorks sets up 'Old Boy' club
Will Smith, Steven Spielberg developing remake
Source: Hollywood Reporter

Nothing brings people together like $584 million in worldwide revenue.

In a potential high-profile star-writer reunion, "I Am Legend" co-scribe Mark Protosevich is in early talks to pen the remake of "Old Boy" that boxoffice king and "Legend" star Will Smith is developing with director Steven Spielberg.

DreamWorks secured the remake rights from Mandate Pictures, which also is staying involved in the project. Although the studio was meeting with several high-profile writers to do the adaptation, Smith invited Protosevich to meet with Spielberg on the project.

DreamWorks declined comment. The rights deal with Mandate is not complete.

Mandate acquired the 2003 Korean film co-written and directed by Park Chan-wook from Universal, which picked up the rights in 2004 with Vertigo Entertainment ("The Eye," "The Grudge"). The original film, which like much edgy Asian cinema includes some disturbing material, detailed a man's mysterious kidnapping, 15-year imprisonment and feverish quest for revenge upon being released.

A slew of Asian remakes have found their way into American theaters and onto development slates in the past few years. Screenwriter William Monahan won the best adapted screenplay Oscar in 2007 for translating the Hong Kong thriller "Infernal Affairs" into the 2006 best picture winner "The Departed," at Warner Bros. And Brad Ingelsby is adapting the 2000 Korean gangster movie "Die Bad," which "Quantum of Solace" director Marc Forster is negotiating to helm for Universal.

DreamWorks has engaged in a flurry of activity since its departure from Paramount two months ago. At that time, Spielberg and co-chairman and CEO Stacey Snider took 17 projects with them that DreamWorks had developed at Paramount, which retains an option to co-finance and co-distribute any resulting production.

"Old Boy" would be DreamWorks' first acquisition since the move, though Mandate might retain some ownership role in the film. Spielberg has been working on directing the first of a planned series of "Tintin" films with fellow producer Peter Jackson.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Reinhold on November 19, 2008, 01:02:27 AM
I can't see this making much money.

edit: I can't see this being anywhere close to as good as the original.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: squints on November 19, 2008, 10:19:54 AM
SCHPOILOPOLIS (spoils right?)




Incest + Will Smith = Box office gold.

I think a good name for a band would be Will Smith & The Tricky Incest.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Reinhold on November 19, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
i suppose you're right, squints. let's hope they attach George Lucas to it, too.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on November 21, 2008, 10:43:50 AM
'Oldboy' Remake Apparently Not Actually a Remake
Source: Cinematical

Those of us who were in a moderate panic following the news of a planned Steven Spielberg-Will Smith remake of Chan-wook Park's singular Oldboy can rest a tiny bit easier. According to Will Smith, who's out and about promoting Seven Pounds, the film is in the works -- but it's not a remake after all. Film School Rejects has the money quote:

"We're looking at [Oldboy] right now. Not the film though, it's the original source material. There's the original comics of Oldboy that they made the first film from. And that's what we're working from, not an adaptation of the film."
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: pete on November 22, 2008, 11:35:30 PM
the best part of old boy was the hallway fight.  that sequence was great in terms of execution, audacity, and storytelling.  the ending was pretty awful - awful story-wise and awfully shot.  if for some reason spielberg could make an entirely different 3rd act, I'd get into it.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on January 26, 2009, 09:28:20 PM
Steven Spielberg's 'Oldboy' Adaptation To Be 'Nothing Less Than Stunning,' Says Will Smith
Source: MTV

It's been several months since we last heard about Steven Spielberg's plans to adapt the popular manga "Oldboy" into a live-action film starring Will Smith, but fans of both the manga and the original live-action adaptation released in 2003 have been buzzing about whether the edgy story will be softened for American audiences.

With the film and the original manga well-known for their disturbing themes — a crucial plot point involves incest — and graphic violence, is the typically family-friendly Spielberg up to the task of staying true to the dark, violent nature of the story?

"It's the thing that Steven was attracted to," Smith told MTV News. "We're working from the comic and we haven't done anything other than talk about it. So we'll see what happens, but he's not going to do anything that would be less than stunning."

"Oldboy" tells the story of a young man who has been imprisoned in solitary confinement for a decade of his life, with only a television as a link to the outside world. When he finally breaks free, he sets off on a quest to exact vengeance upon his unknown jailers. The manga was previously adapted to the screen by Korean filmmaker Park Chan-wook, whose film garnered substantial critical accolades around the world upon its release, and has received high praise from action-film junkies such as Quentin Tarantino.

In one of the story's most memorable and visceral scenes, the film's protagonist turns up at a sushi restaurant after years of eating gruel in his prison, and demands to "eat something alive." His tormentors present him with a live octopus that nearly kills him as he devours it, making for an unforgettable — and controversial — sequence.

So, cross your fingers and hope that Will Smith has an appetite for octopus, "Oldboy" fans!
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on November 10, 2009, 11:32:13 AM
Exclusive: Will Smith & Steven Spielberg's Old Boy DEAD!
Source: Latino Review

Late Breaking News...

This just in...

You know that OLDBOY remake...well it wasn't really a remake, anyway (which is a terrible idea by the way) Steven Spielberg and Will Smith were suppose to do a film that was based on the Japanese manga by Nobuaki Minegishi and Garon Tsuchiya and NOT FROM THE ORIGINAL FILM.

At the time DreamWorks was in the process of securing the rights along with MANDATE, until NOW.

According to a trusted source...

...It's DEAD!

Mandate and DreamWorks didn't see eye to eye therefore DreamWorks has apparently walked away.

No Spielberg.

No Will Smith.

THEY'RE OUT!

Hence no stateside Oldboy remake...or whatever you want to call it.

Stay tuned as more develops.

You guys should be hearing something in the trades soon. 
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: polkablues on November 10, 2009, 11:56:48 AM
This is fantastic news.  My day just got a little brighter!
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on July 06, 2011, 03:24:55 PM
Has Spike Lee Been Released From Director's Jail...For The 'Oldboy' Remake?
Source: Playlist

All in all, Spike Lee is one of our favorite working filmmakers, and really, how could the man behind "She's Gotta Have It," "Do The Right Thing," "Malcolm X" and "25th Hour" not be? But he's also extremely inconsistent, and the critical and commercial failure of his last picture, the WW2 drama "Miracle At St. Anna," have made things trickier for the director: over the weekend, he told The Hollywood Reporter that he hasn't been able to get financing for any of his films in three years, even a sequel to his biggest hit, the starry thriller "Inside Man."

That film could never get the green-light, and neither could biopics of Jackie Robinson & James Brown and the self-penned ensemble drama "Brooklyn Loves MJ," while even replacing Martin Campbell on the thriller "Nagasaki Deadline," a project that seemed like a straight-up paycheck gig, came to nothing, leaving the director to stick to TV and documentary work.

But an interesting rumor emerged overnight, one that might see Lee return to the big screen, for a project that many films fans have been dreading for some time; the long-gestating remake of Park Chan-Wook's modern Korean classic "Oldboy." Ever since that movie, a brutal revenge story about a man imprisoned for decades by a mysterious stranger, was released back in 2003, talk of an Americanization has circulated, and 2008 saw Will Smith and Steven Spielberg, an actor/director pair as ill-suited to the project as possible, attach themselves to the film. They departed not long after when Mandate and DreamWorks fell out, but late last year, it was reported that writer Mark Protosevich ("I Am Legend") had turned in a draft that had executives jumping for joy, and that Spielberg had been approached again, along with Matthew Vaughn and Danny Boyle. It seems that those three have all turned the film down, as Twitch, who've been on a pretty hot run with the scoops of late, report that Lee is now in talks to helm the remake, which would mark his first directorial feature since "Miracle At St. Anna."

If it works out, Lee would certainly mark a better choice for the material than Spielberg, even if it still doesn't quite seem like the right choice. But then, our ideal pick for director would be, well, no one, and if it gets Lee back to work, and hopefully gives him the cache to get something he really wants to make going, than we suppose it at least gives the remake some purpose. Of course, none of this is confirmed yet, and Drew McWeeny says on Twitter that he believes that there are legal issues over the rights to the film that may tie things up. Only time will tell if Lee's appointment will finally push one of the less necessary remakes around forward, at long last.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: squints on July 11, 2011, 02:45:02 PM
Spike Lee Confirmed to Direct Oldboy Remake
Source: ComingSoon (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=79686)

Mandate Pictures announced today that Spike Lee (Inside Man) will direct Oldboy, a remake of the highly-acclaimed South Korean film. Mark Protosevich has adapted the screenplay and will co-produce. Roy Lee and Doug Davison (The Departed, The Grudge) will produce. The film is a Vertigo Entertainment/40 Acres & A Mule Production. Mandate President Nathan Kahane will executive produce.

"It's a great honor to put this special project into the hands of such a gifted writer and iconic director," said Kahane.

Oldboy tells the story of a man who is kidnapped and imprisoned on his daughter's birthday. For fifteen years, he is held captive, and, upon his release, must begin his journey to find the reason for his imprisonment. He soon finds out that his kidnapper has plans for him more tortuous than his solitary confinement. The original film, released in 2003, directed by Chan-wook Park won the Grand Prize Jury Award at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival.

Spike Lee and Mark Protosevich are represented by CAA. Dan Freedman, SVP of business affairs, negotiated the deals for Mandate.


--------------------------------------------


this is going to be.........interesting?
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 29, 2011, 04:42:26 PM
Josh Brolin To Star In Spike Lee's 'Oldboy' Redo For Mandate
BY MIKE FLEMING | Deadline

BREAKING: Josh Brolin was rumored to be on the short list to star in Spike Lee's Oldboy, a remake of the cult 2003 Korean revenge thriller from Park Chan-wook. Now it's official: Brolin will topline the Mandate Pictures redo, which begins production in March. Brolin, who just wrapped Men in Black 3 with Will Smith, next begins work on Warner Bros' Gangster Squad. It looks like he'll squeeze in Oldboy before shooting Jason Reitman's Labor Day opposite Kate Winslet; that movie is set to begin production in June.

The new Oldboy has script adapted by Mark Protosevich, who will co-produce. Roy Lee and Doug Davison will produce via Vertigo Entertainment with Lee's 40 Acres & A Mule. Mandate president Nathan Kahane will executive produce. Originally, DreamWorks was looking to pick up remake rights in 2008, with the idea that Steven Spielberg would direct Smith. The story centers on a man who is kidnapped on his daughter's birthday and held for 15 years in solitary confinement without explanation. He is eventually released and sets out on a path to take revenge on those who destroyed his life.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Orgin on October 03, 2011, 05:28:54 AM
Wasn't t there a Indian remake of this film already?  So...this would be the 3rd time a movie base on this manga is going to be made.

Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Ravi on October 03, 2011, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Orgin on October 03, 2011, 05:28:54 AM
Wasn't t there a Indian remake of this film already?  So...this would be the 3rd time a movie base on this manga is going to be made.

Yes, it was called Zinda (Life). I haven't seen it, but it wasn't an officially sanctioned remake. The director is known for ripping off foreign films.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 01, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
Sharlto Copley Cast in 'Open Grave,' Confirmed For Spike Lee's 'Oldboy'
BY THE DEADLINE TEAM

EXCLUSIVE: Sharlto Copley is heading to Hungary to begin shooting Gonzalo Lopez-Gallego's Open Grave, and he has closed his deal to play the villain in Spike Lee's Oldboy, a remake of the cult 2003 Korean revenge thriller from Park Chan-wook. The actor, who made his mark with his starring role in the Oscar-nominated District 9 followed by The A-Team, will play the lead character in Lopez-Gallego's follow-up to Apollo 18. Copley's character wakes up in the pit full of rotting bodies with no idea how he got there, begins to have flashbacks of himself murdering people and stars to believe he's the killer. Charles Roven's Atlas Independent is producing. Copley has also been confirmed to play the villain Adrian Pryce in Oldboy. Pryce is a mysterious billionaire trying to destroy the life of Joe Douchett (Josh Brolin). The new Oldboy begins shooting in late September from a script adapted by Mark Protosevich, who will co-produce. Roy Lee and Doug Davison produce via Vertigo Entertainment with Lee's 40 Acres & A Mule. Mandate president Nathan Kahane executive produces.

Copley, repped by WME, just wrapped filming District 9 filmmaker Neill Blomkamp's Elysium opposite Matt Damon and Jodie Foster for MRC; it will be released in March 2013.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: I am Schmi on May 01, 2012, 11:32:59 PM
So is it a remake, or an adaptation? Honestly, I haven't even explored the whole manga oldboy side of the things, I have seen the Korean adaptation though. If the original source is quite different from the korean adaptation, I might become interested in this.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 07, 2012, 04:21:16 PM
Josh Brolin Says Spike Lee's 'Oldboy' Remake Will Keep Hammer Fight & Octopus-Eating; Has Blessing From Park Chan-Wook
Source: Playlist

So many actors and actresses have been linked with Spike Lee's "Oldboy" remake that we have trouble recalling which ones actually scored the roles but things look to be settling down with "District 9" star Sharlto Copley joining Josh Brolin, taking the villain role last week, while Elizabeth Olsen is eyeing the female lead. From early in its conception, the project has been noted as drawing more from the graphic novel source rather than being a direct remake of Park Chan-wook's film but the biggest question has always been where and how Mark Protosevich's script differs.

Speaking with SlashFilm for "Men In Black III," Brolin has taken the opportunity to clear up a few points noting, when asked about the possible changes, that, "Yes [we'll keep the hammer fight]. And it's a hammer and knife and all that stuff. And then will we keep the octopus, will we keep the other stuff? There's some changes but I think it's really good. It still makes me throw down the script half way through. Whoa."

The hammer fight has gained quite a bit of notoriety since the release of Park's film namely for it's scrolling video game-esque take depicting protagonist Oh Dae-su brutally fighting through a hallway of dudes looking to take him out. But as producer Roy Lee said last fall, Spike will be making his own imprint on it. "There's a sort of different interpretation of that hallway scene that is going to hopefully be Spike's signature moment in the movie that we want to show in a way that we've never seen done in an action movie," Lee said.

However, Brolin also added that he has, in fact, requested and earned the approval of the original's helmer for Lee's remake. "I love 'Oldboy' and I'm close with Chan-wook Park and I emailed him a couple months ago, just asking for his blessing to do this movie because if he had said 'No,' I wouldnt have done it. But I really respect his movie and we'll make a little different movie and this whole idea of a more Hollywood version of it? Whatever. We're just going to make a different version but have respect to the initial story and premise. I'm looking forward to it, man. I'm talking about it nervously right now because it makes me nervous."

Brolin, Lee, Copley (and potentially Olsen) are certainly an exciting team and we're keen to see where things go -- and just what these "new elements, new characters and new situations" are. Lensing begins in October.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 07, 2012, 05:29:25 PM
I fail to see how Spike Lee is qualified to make this.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Reel on May 08, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
I will fail to see this movie
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: squints on July 09, 2013, 12:14:12 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1011464_10152985419315436_1954816814_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: polkablues on July 09, 2013, 12:37:13 AM
...the fuck?
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Pubrick on July 09, 2013, 01:00:39 AM
sigh..

spike lee is .. YOU KNOW.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Robyn on July 09, 2013, 01:29:44 AM
is he sliding down a hill?
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: jenkins on July 09, 2013, 01:33:35 AM
the name that generates my enthusiasm --

Cinematography by
Sean Bobbitt

i expect that appreciation to be as unanimous as the spike lee appreciation (i don't expect it). we're talking about the guy who shot

wonderland, in his beginning, for winterbottom
hunger and shame, for mcqueen
xixax's #1 award winning movie the place beyond the pines
this oldboy remake
the new steve mcqueen, 12 years a slave

not sure if it's rational to have high hopes for this remake, because it's a remake, and because it's written by mark protosevich (the cell, poseidon, co-wrote i am legend, and wrote a movie he's now directing called freakshow and about "Five teenagers who were turned into mutants by a chemical explosion are asked to save their city after the world's only superhero is killed"), and directed by spike lee

i still like how bobbitt points his cameras. imdb tells me he's also signed up as dp for michael cuesta's new movie (and he shot neil jordan's byzantium), and cuesta might come back to glory. maybe he'll forget he made the movie roadie, and remember he made the movie l.i.e.

the overall team plan here seems flawed
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Kellen on July 09, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
men in black climbing out of a toy chest  :saywhat: :ponder:
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Lottery on July 09, 2013, 10:43:54 PM
Brolin looks like the dude from Prison break there, with a jawbone made from a banana.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on July 10, 2013, 03:11:53 PM
Red Band Trailer


Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: 03 on July 10, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
what a damn shame..
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Pubrick on July 10, 2013, 05:58:54 PM
Fucking LOL at 44 seconds where he tries to kill himself after Bill Clinton becomes president.

The poster seems to have perfectly captured the head-scratching what-the-fuckness of this.

I.. I just don't even...
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Robyn on July 10, 2013, 06:15:29 PM
This seems to be everything that's wrong with remakes. If you're doing a remake you should at least try to put your own ideas into it. The hammer scene looks exactly like the scene in the original, which is a great scene but you can't just rip it of completely.The imagery throughout the trailer looks exactly like the original, and it even looks like they shoot some of the scenes on the same locations. Didn't they say that this wasn't a remake but an adaption of the comic book? That was clearly bullshit.

Solaris is an good example of a remake made right. They didn't even remake the most memorable scene from the original because they knew that it would be totally worthless in comparison. They tried something different and the result was great. Soderbergh knew better and Spike Lee should also know better.

EDIT: Oh, okay... so I just watched the trailer again and realized that I don't remember everything from the original, but still... the hammer scene. That's not okay.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: squints on July 10, 2013, 06:29:36 PM
*spoiler for original*



Looks like the incest is missing.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: jenkins on July 10, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
pete just mentioned the conceptual carnage of the roger deakins shot in time, and with that in mind, and this trailer in mind, i might need a new sean bobbitt plan

as sleepless said, and i forgot, this is meant to be a fresh adaptation of the manga. it's not broadcasted as a remake of the original movie. and then you watch the trailer ---

could really write ----- forever, and that'd describe my whole pov on this
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Pubrick on July 10, 2013, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: squints on July 10, 2013, 06:29:36 PM
*spoiler for original*



Looks like the incest is missing.

i was thinking that, but maybe the daughter is a decoy? then again i wonder if they'd have the balls to present the original twist to american audiences, seems like too much controversy when Spike is clearly doing this for a buck.

seriously did no one else laugh their ass off during the trailer? it just looks SO bad, i mean that also in the literal sense, it looks like shitty video a lot of the time. like the poster, which looks like a pic taken with someone's phone.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: HeywoodRFloyd on July 10, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
Quote from: Brett Ratner on July 10, 2013, 06:15:29 PM
Solaris is an good example of a remake made right. They didn't even remake the most memorable scene from the original because they knew that it would be totally worthless in comparison. They tried something different and the result was great. Soderbergh knew better and Spike Lee should also know better.

Nice to see some love for Soderbergh's Solaris, I thought I was the only one who thought it was great. I keep returning to that film.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Lottery on July 10, 2013, 09:16:15 PM
Today I discovered that Oldboy is the favourite film of Flying Lotus and that 'no matter what happens i won't be able to have an open mind about it being remade'. Ha.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: jenkins on July 10, 2013, 09:57:06 PM
just realized that in my remake of a previous post i, for reference, called Brett Ratner sleepless. pretty random of me, think that happened because i like both of them, and anyway it fits within the proposed guidelines for remakes

flying lotus is la, lottery do you live in la, or that was internet

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Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Fernando on July 10, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
that wtf movie poster can only be improved if it receives the Ratner treatment, question is: are we past that?


and that trailer feels like t gives away the whole thing.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Drenk on July 11, 2013, 06:34:35 AM
Taken 3.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: samsong on July 11, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
is no one else interested in seeing josh brolin give it to the other olsen?  was looking forward to sharlto copley's take on that character but he seems to have taken the easy way out with the androgynous brit accent.   i'm not precious about the original, but any benefit of the doubt i had given this to start has gone out the window. 
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
New Teaser


Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Kellen on October 10, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
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Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Kellen on November 29, 2013, 03:40:15 PM
Oldboy poster artist gets screwed, Asks Spike Lee for Help (http://www.slashfilm.com/oldboy-poster-artist-gets-screwed-asks-spike-lee-for-help/)

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Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: polkablues on November 29, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
Spike Lee just keeps finding new and creative ways to make me want him to go fuck himself.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: 03 on November 29, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
the brick thing was cool before they put it in his body
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Alexandro on November 30, 2013, 12:59:12 PM
That tweet has singlehandedly almost convinced me of never see any of Spike Lee's films again. And I am a BIG fan of Do the Right thing, Malcolm X, 25th Hour and When the Levees Broke. BIG. But that is a low answer, and is not the response of an intelligent person. It's almost as if a 15 year old virgin teenager somehow got ahold of his tweeter account. "It's not MY problem?" Really? That's all he could say after reading the guy's letter? Didn't he understand one single thing in it? What's with using Caps at the beginning of every word? Doesn't he know how to write? Isn't he a fucking a writer? And please..."YO"? "YO"??????? Who is this? a mentally challenged hack? I'm deeply disappointed by the way he's handled this so far, and i guess he does deserves to be making a fucking Oldboy remake instead of more interesting projects.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Reel on November 30, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
I hate to just throw busy work at polka, but I would really like to see some 'updated' Spike Lee posters
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: polkablues on December 01, 2013, 07:09:41 PM
Quote from: Reelist on November 30, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
I hate to just throw busy work at polka, but I would really like to see some 'updated' Spike Lee posters

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Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Reel on December 01, 2013, 11:29:39 PM
Haha, wow. that's great on so many levels, but I love how pissed Danny Ailleo is at the lone patron.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Ravi on December 02, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
The original Oldboy had a stylization in the visuals and acting that elevated the revenge/film noir aspect of the film. For the most part the remake goes for a grittier style that renders the film rather lifeless. The original had some great touches, like the octopus scene, that were not only fun to watch, but illustrated Oh-Dae-Su's craving to feel something alive, after being alone (and eating nothing but dumplings) for 15 years.

Sharlto Copley isn't a particularly menacing, or even interesting, villain in this. He's a rather generic rich guy with a British accent, without the fiendishness of the villain in the original.

One thing I did like in the remake was that it did a better job of hiding the big twist with the daughter. When I first saw the original I pretty much immediately guessed that the girl was Oh-Dae-Su's daughter, but with the remake I wondered if they even retained that twist.

Overall this was a perfunctory and pointless film. Spike should have gone balls-out with this, but it's just some hack-for-hire shit.
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: pete on December 03, 2013, 04:19:26 AM
HOW WOULD YOU HAVE GUESSED THAT RIGHT AWAY YOU SICK BASTARD
Title: Re: Oldboy (2013)
Post by: Ravi on December 03, 2013, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: pete on December 03, 2013, 04:19:26 AM
HOW WOULD YOU HAVE GUESSED THAT RIGHT AWAY YOU SICK BASTARD

That's usually my guess whenever there's a sex scene.