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http://www.lettherightoneinmovie.com/
Synopsis: Oscar, an overlooked and bullied boy, finds love and revenge through Eli, a beautiful but peculiar girl who turns out to be a vampire.
TRAILER: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14262808/lat_den_ratte_komma_in/videos/let_the_right_one_in_101508.html
"Tomas Alfredson's Let The Right One In (Magnolia, 10.24) is easily the most strikingly unusual vampire pic that anyone's seen in I don't know how long. The fact that Overture Films and Spitfire Pictures are developing a U.S. remake with Cloverfield's Matt Reeves on board to direct speaks volumes. It's one of the standout originals of '08."
thanks to Cinematical's endless pimping (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/04/27/tribeca-review-let-the-right-one-in/), i am totally going to see this!
It's pretty awesome.
Very excited for this one.
i didn't like this.
nor did i. samsong did u just see this??
i did. at cantor. were you there?
I had tickets to see it last week at Toronto's After Dark Film Festival and it completely slipped my mind... luckily they over sold the show and I was able to get a refund today... And that's my story.
It's strange to see a film that showed off his ass this january at the International Film Festival Rotterdam now being completely hyped by the rest of the world. But it doesn't really get me on a groove to see it, somehow.
Quote from: Bram on October 26, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
It's strange to see a film that showed off his ass this january at the International Film Festival Rotterdam now being completely hyped by the rest of the world. But it doesn't really get me on a groove to see it, somehow.
I think it's the 'his' that confuses me here.
Special Thanks to JG and samsong for their minimal effort over a tenuous four posts effort.
In summation this thread is useless in regards to my intentions on seeing this film.
bram continues his boldness by personifying movies on the festival circuit, complete with gender distinction.
you're welcome w/o.
it's the kind of film where people who assess movies based on individual aspects of filmmaking without considering the whole will love, where if the majority of what they look for (or are capable of noticing) is good, then the movie must be good, not to suggest that ghostboy's anything like that, but it's the sense i got from having seen it and overhearing the retarded comments that most people made.
let the right one in, in its "genre reconstruction!" doesn't succeed in creating a unit out of these seemingly disparate elements--vampire movie, teen angst catharsis, deadpan comedy, the revenge flick--so much as show a (dubiously) deft ability to switch hats a lot, and very quickly. at one moment it's this movie, at the very next moment it's that movie. it's crafted with a sure hand, but it's working with a really ridiculous and at times very stupid screenplay. it connects occasionally with some tenderness and moments of movie bliss but its flimsy foundation buckles from underneath it and left me with that terrible feeling of my time having been wasted.
I wasn't personifying. I was hearing a lot of good words about the film that I've expected too see the hype much sooner. But when I first saw the plot outline and bits of the trailer, it didn't really do anything for me. So I just remarked that I found it a bit weird that the worldwide hype kicks in this late. And you're comment make me want to see the film even less.
And sorry, it supposed to be "showed off it's ass". I think it's a Dutch thing, we don't really have a difference between "it's" and "his" (we refer to the movie's ass as his ass or 'zijn kont', with 'zijn' being both it's or his).
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Let The Right One In
This is a horror film that puts its characters first and is unlike any I've ever seen. It deftly handles switching between horror, dark comedy, and coming of age film. The horror scenes are scary and stylish and doesn't shy away from gore. The cinematography and score are beautiful and I can't imagine finding better child actors. One of my favorite films this year.
Here's my (mildly spoilerish) review (http://www.road-dog-productions.com/weblog/2008/10/incomplete_andr.html) of the movie....
Quote from: Bram on October 28, 2008, 03:38:36 AM
I wasn't personifying. I was hearing a lot of good words about the film that I've expected too see the hype much sooner. But when I first saw the plot outline and bits of the trailer, it didn't really do anything for me. So I just remarked that I found it a bit weird that the worldwide hype kicks in this late. And you're comment make me want to see the film even less.
And sorry, it supposed to be "showed off it's ass". I think it's a Dutch thing, we don't really have a difference between "it's" and "his" (we refer to the movie's ass as his ass or 'zijn kont', with 'zijn' being both it's or his).
i assumed it was because of your european shenanigans. all jokes, no worries... hopefully.
Oh, I'm sorry. I just don't seem to get sarcasm when it's written in another language. Espacially on forums.
Quote from: Bram on October 28, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
Oh, I'm sorry. I just don't seem to get sarcasm when it's written in another language. Espacially on forums.
You'll never be wrong if you assume they're being sarcastic, I promise.
Seeing this tonight because samsong's review wasn't so harsh.
'Cloverfield' helmer traces Swedish tale
Source: Hollywood Reporter
"Cloverfield" director Matt Reeves has signed to write and direct the horror remake "Let the Right One In" for Overture Films and Hammer Films. The Swedish horror film, "Lat den ratte komma in," about a bullied boy whose desire for revenge becomes intertwined with his growing love for a girl who happens to be a vampire, began showing at festivals at the beginning of the year. Hammer Films picked up the remake rights in May after the film won the best narrative feature award at the Tribeca Film Festival.
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EXCLUSIVE: 'Cloverfield' Director Matt Reeves Reveals 'Let The Right One In' Remake Details
Published by Josh Horowitz; MTV
Between "Twilight" and the critically hailed Swedish flick, "Let The Right One In," now is the time for angst-ridden teens and vampires. And you thought "The Loys: The Tribe" put a nail in that coffin.
By now you know everything under the sun about "Twilight" (if that's a pun, it's not intended) but you probably know less about "Let The Right One In". If so, get thee to an art house and check it out. Haunting and throughly unique in tone, it's a stand-out flick this Fall. And yeah, it's in Swedish, alright? Deal. Or don't. Because there is an English-language remake in the works and it's coming from "Cloverfield" director Matt Reeves. Ready to hear his take on the story? I chatted with Reeves the other day (he said he's at work on the script right now) and here's what he told me:
Will he change the time period and locale? "I'm keeping it in the early 80s. I love the setting of it being in a snowy locale. I've been thinking of Colorado, maybe Littleton."
On adapting the story for an American audience: "The movie and the book are incredibly Swedish yet there's something so universal about the tale of this kid and something that in the context of an American story could be completely different while being very consistent with the original story. There's something about it that can be an American mythic tale."
On his love for the source material: "It's a terrific movie and a fantastic book. I think it could be a really touching haunting and terrifying film. I'm really excited about what it could be."
On his personal connection to the story: "I had such a personal reaction when I saw the movie and when I read the book. I felt like there was an opportunity to do something incredibly personal while still being in a genre arena."
How he sees the story: "It's an amazing mixture of a coming of age story and a really scary horror film. It's touching and scary. It's an incredibly touching love story and a really scary vampire movie."
Through the eyes of a child? "I see the film as essentially being the fantasies of this 12 year old who's having such a hard time. It would never be that overt where you would watch the movie and say that's a dream but to me that is kind of an organizing principle."
The film may be his next directing effort: "Overture wants it as soon as possible. They would love me to do it next so that's what we're shooting for at the moment."
This was awesome, what didn't those of you who said you didn't like it didn't like about it?
It didn't fall victim to traditional vampire narrative potholes, it really gave new life to an abused genre.
SPOILERZ
You have to admit, the way that the old man died, realizing he was useless once she fell in love with the young boy who would take care of her once she saved his life, led the boy to have to run away with her. It's just like allowing yourself to be consumed with the seemingly undying or largely immortal concept of embracing violence (something sexless and appearing to be innocent) that also gives the boy, in a twisted way, hope to himself because of his dire surroundings.
Also, the concept of permission makes this movie even stronger. Once you can allow yourself to love someone, then you don't need to resort to violence, but if they invade your space, then you can't be blamed for how you react in terms of survival.
I'll definitely be seeing this again to patch up some loose ends that I'm still wrestling with.
This was beautiful. It was touching, horrifying, sweet, intense and above all else, amazing.
I think it works alot better as a coming of age story than it does as a horror film. The dynamic between Eli and Oskar leaves you smiling throughout the whole film.
Quite possibly my favorite film of the year.
Spoilers.
Having not read the book, I'm curious about the question of Eli's gender. I've heard that in the book the character is a boy, but in the movie all indications have the character as a girl except the one part where she's putting on Oskar's mothers dress and you can see a scar on her crotch. Can someone familiar with the book shed some light on this?
This was the best vampire movie I've seen in a long time. Man, just blown away. People have said all that I was about to proclaim so I won't go into details but man.....amazing shit!
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 22, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
This was the best vampire movie I've seen in a long time.
There's no way its better than twilight.
Quote from: squints on November 22, 2008, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 22, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
This was the best vampire movie I've seen in a long time.
There's no way its better than twilight.
Oh I know it is better than twilight...You'll read my review on that piece of riduculous shit very soon.
that was just ok. the kills weren't very scary and the coming of age drama was just ok, didn't feel very heartfelt. the final twist is good, that's about it.
You're like a less eloquent GT.
you're like GT.
Fellas, fellas, let's not say something we can't take back.
One of the year's best thus far. I haven't seen twilight, but I assume this is the thinking person's version of it (as indicated by the subtitles of course). This goes a long way to confirm that it's not so much about the story you choose, but the way in which you approach the material.
Finally just saw this. I love the pacing of this film. It's wonderful to see films actually be visual in their storytelling. I agree with the positive things said here, especially it being the best vampire film. And I had not so much jumps as it was my blood curdling under my skin at scary moments. This was like the 'Elephant' of vampire films. Almost, kinda.
possible SPOILERS
What was the deal with the other guy at the kid's dad's place? Think I missed something.
Quote from: Gamblour. on February 08, 2009, 11:16:08 PM
possible SPOILERS
What was the deal with the other guy at the kid's dad's place? Think I missed something.
Supposedly in the book, that guy is a child molester and molests Oskar. At least that's what I've read at the imdb board, but you know how those go.
Also, if anyone was wondering what the record was that Oskar plays when Eli gets out of the shower, it's "Kvar i min bil" and I can't find an MP3 of it ANYWHERE. If anyone else can, please send it to me.
Quote from: squints on November 22, 2008, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 22, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
This was the best vampire movie I've seen in a long time.
There's no way its better than twilight.
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oh my fucking god you spent enough time to find a calvin and hobbes image to post here, WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST WRITE SOMETHING WORTH SAYING!?!?! Fuck it, people were coddling you in that Pulp Fiction post. His reply, at best, was a dry attempt at being funny. It doesn't require you, and calvin and fucking hobbes to be barreled over with laughter, rofling pointlessly all over the goddman place. STOP IT. Just shut shut shut up. If you want to reply to this post, private message me, private witt. Do not put it in this thread, you've bogged down enough of the others. (ironically, I'm drunk right now, so maybe this should go in your all-caps thread in Idle Chatter).
Back to the discussion of this film, thank you for that bit of information Stefen. That was a point of confusion you've cleared up enough for me. I really liked this film, not disappointing like most every other vampire movie I've seen.
Quote from: Gamblour. on February 09, 2009, 09:10:11 PM
oh my fucking god you spent enough time to find a calvin and hobbes image to post here, WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST WRITE SOMETHING WORTH SAYING!?!?! Fuck it, people were coddling you in that Pulp Fiction post. His reply, at best, was a dry attempt at being funny. It doesn't require you, and calvin and fucking hobbes to be barreled over with laughter, rofling pointlessly all over the goddman place. STOP IT. Just shut shut shut up. If you want to reply to this post, private message me, private witt. Do not put it in this thread, you've bogged down enough of the others. (ironically, I'm drunk right now, so maybe this should go in your all-caps thread in Idle Chatter).
Spent enough time? Haha, I just google imaged the word "laughter", it took about four seconds, drunky. Hope your hangover isn't too wicked.
I love Calvin and Hobbes.
Oh no. I just realized that Hollywood will someday try to make a screen version of the comic strip. Fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck, no no no no...
Bill Watterson will never let it happen. No need to worry.
And now back to our regularly scheduled topic.
Quote from: private witt on February 09, 2009, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: squints on November 22, 2008, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 22, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
This was the best vampire movie I've seen in a long time.
There's no way its better than twilight.
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I feel like i inadvertently derailed this thread so i guess i'll put it back on course.
This was immensely enjoyable. In a perfect world there would be no remake in the works. I don't think its that groundbreaking but it kept me in my seat and invested in the story til the end and i guess that's all I could ask for. Definitely one of the best I've seen from '08.
I haven't seen nor will i ever watch twilight.
After hearing all the hype about this one, I came away from the theater very disappointed. The most interesting thing was the relationship between the old man and the girl, but that was pretty much glossed over to set up the very predictable "surprise twist".
Beyond that, this one was pretty straightforward and dull, IMO.
Spoils within!
Quote from: The Ultimate Badass on February 21, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
After hearing all the hype about this one, I came away from the theater very disappointed. The most interesting thing was the relationship between the old man and the girl, but that was pretty much glossed over to set up the very predictable "surprise twist".
Beyond that, this one was pretty straightforward and dull, IMO.
Straightforward and dull? Maybe if you're going in knowing she's a vampire. I think we don't give enough credit to movies nowadays because we know so much going into movies, so we can't get swept up in the suspension of disbelief. We can't allow ourselves to be immersed in a new environment.
What were you expecting to see? How was the girl and the old man's relationship glossed over? The ending gives the impression that its cyclical since she's a vampire and thus immortal as long as she has a helper.
Either you let the hype ruin the movie for you or you should've seen Twilight.
spoils
so you're blaming him for having a vague idea of what he bought the ticket to see?
It was a boring movie, the coming-of-age shit in there was so dull, there was nothing interesting about the boy and nothing particularly worthy of audience investment. the townies were a bunch of caricatures too. something almost interesting could've happened with the bitten lady, but it ended as soon as it started. nothing about it particularly resonated, which was all you need to do to tell a coming-of-age story - just come up with some shit that everyone could identify with and evoke the shit out of it. none of that happened. the bullies were extremely one-dimensional. I just saw Role Models - the dungeons and dragons bullies were way more convincing in their two scenes than this whole movie, and that was a studio comedy directed by David Wain. And seriously? Pitting a vampire against a bunch of 10-year olds?
the set up for the instances were just too obvious - that the boy could do a bunch of shit that a vampire couldn't do, and vice versa, but it took like two hours for the film to arrive at something that everyone saw coming, with no interesting turns in the meanwhile.
Quote from: pete on February 23, 2009, 02:50:22 PM
so you're blaming him for having a vague idea of what he bought the ticket to see?
Yes.
And you, too.
Let the Right One In Remake Rolling Soon
Source: ShockTillYouDrop
Early 2010 will give way to some new films from the team behind Cloverfield. In February, screenwriter Drew Goddard is making his directorial debut with The Cabin in the Woods. A month prior, helmer Matt Reeves' Let the Right One In remake hits theaters through Overture Films and Hammer. According to Production Weekly, Reeves begins shooting this May from a script he penned. Expect casting and other announcements to ramp up in the coming months.
It'll be a fucking disaster.
Yes, it will be.
Agrees Online Only To Get His Post Number Higher
haha
You just find that out?
'Let the Right One In' tackles vampires but is no 'Twilight'
The Swedish film tells a tender bloodsucking tale.
By Dennis Lim; Los Angeles Times
Vampire stories are always about desire and repression, which makes the teenage vampire an especially potent symbol of the hormonal confusion and awkward intensity of the wonder years.
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" confirmed the pop-culture potential of adolescent bloodsuckers, and the phenomenon reached a frenzied peak with the recent teen-girl hit "Twilight" (out on DVD and Blu-ray March 21). But a more surprising and delicate treatment of youthful bloodlust can be found in one of last year's most beloved art-house imports, the Swedish coming-of-age tale "Let the Right One In" (out on DVD and Blu-ray on Tuesday).
"Let the Right One In" has made a little more than $2 million at the U.S. box office, not bad for a foreign-language film, but to put things in perspective, only about 1% of what "Twilight" has grossed. Both movies are based on books, revolve around interspecies relationships between two very pale loners, and recognize the larger-than-life emotions that come with being a teenager, but the similarities are skin deep.
"Twilight," directed by Catherine Hardwicke and faithfully adapted from the first installment in Stephenie Meyer's hugely successful young-adult franchise, is a Gothic romance that softens the vampire movie's usual edge of danger (undead dreamboat Robert Pattinson is a "vegetarian" who sticks to animal blood). It also sneakily turns the genre's fascination with illicit appetites into a pro-abstinence parable. And if Buffy, with her vampire-slaying prowess and fondness for cute boy vampires, was often held up as a credible feminist heroine, Kristen Stewart's smitten Bella dreams simply of being passively ravished, a fantasy that her gentlemanly suitor nobly declines to fulfill.
"Let the Right One In" is also more chaste than the average vampire movie -- its characters are barely pubescent -- but it's also a good deal more tender and intense. Directed by Tomas Alfredson from a screenplay by John Ajvide Lindqvist (adapting his own novel), it unfolds in a sterile, permanently frozen Swedish suburb that makes for a stark counterpoint to the roiling emotions of the story. A frail, androgynous-looking 12-year-old from a broken home, Oskar (Kare Hedebrant) is a friendless kid who lives mainly in his own head -- that is, until he meets Eli (Lina Leandersson), the waif-like Goth girl next door, who doesn't go to school, never gets cold and sometimes smells a little strange.
No less sincere than "Twilight" but much less overwrought, "Let the Right One In" brings an unsentimental eye to the daily horrors of adolescence. In fact, its bloodline can be traced less to other vampire movies than to the tradition of Swedish films about childhood, from Ingmar Bergman's "Fanny and Alexander" to Lasse Hallström's "My Life as a Dog" to Lukas Moodysson's "Show Me Love." The film is unnervingly clear-eyed about the cruelty of children (Oskar is mercilessly bullied by his classmates) and the deep scars that can be inflicted on formative psyches (he harbors violent revenge fantasies).
Alfredson is something of a polymath, best known in Sweden as a member of a Monty Python-esque troupe, with whom he made his previous film, "Four Shades of Brown"; he also directed a stage production of "My Fair Lady" in Stockholm last year. As a horror director, he's capable of stylistic flourishes (a spontaneous-combustion scene, a bravura climax in a swimming pool), but the film's most distinctive quality is its otherwordly stillness, a deadpan matter-of-factness that amplifies the dread -- gruesome scenes are often shot from afar and staged without fanfare.
Teen vampires show no sign of going out of fashion. "Twilight" follow-ups are rolling off the studio conveyor belt (the second film, "New Moon," directed by Chris Weitz, is out in November). And an American version of "Let the Right One In" is in the works, to be directed by Matt Reeves, who made "Cloverfield," a movie whose blunt, high-concept approach to horror is antithetical to Alfredson's. The remake, with its eye on the teeny-bopper market, will be superfluous at best. But fans of "Twilight" willing to brave the subtitles of the Swedish original might well find something they didn't know they were missing.
every frame of this was EXQUISITE! the performances from the kids are UNREAL. i must give a xix awards campaign shoutout to those kids. parts of it mildly confused me but i'm going to be watching it again anyways so that's fine.
it's easily hands down the best swedish movie i have ever seen. i seriously hope the remake will suck ass.
why?? i hope the remake is just as if not more amazing because i like amazing movies in general and it would make more people want to see the first one and not ruin it somehow.
Quote from: picolas on March 10, 2009, 03:11:29 PM
why?? i hope the remake is just as if not more amazing because i like amazing movies in general and it would make more people want to see the first one and not ruin it somehow.
i'm just saying, i don't like it because the whole thing just seems lazy with a remake. just as someone wanted to remake "my life as a dog" into a english version. why not enjoy the fact that the movie stands on its own no matter what language it is?
okay. i understand that. it is pointless. but who knows. maybe we'll get lucky and someone talented with a slightly different, interesting interpretation of it will get to make it. on the other hand, vanilla sky is an abomination.
Original ideas are overrated.
Quote from: mogwai on March 10, 2009, 02:05:48 PM
it's easily hands down the best swedish movie i have ever seen.
I heard Bergman is pretty good.
Quote from: Walrus on March 11, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: mogwai on March 10, 2009, 02:05:48 PM
it's easily hands down the best swedish movie i have ever seen.
I heard Bergman is pretty good.
i heard he's not up to much these days.
Quote from: mogwai on March 11, 2009, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Walrus on March 11, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: mogwai on March 10, 2009, 02:05:48 PM
it's easily hands down the best swedish movie i have ever seen.
I heard Bergman is pretty good.
i heard he's not up to much these days.
And in death, all of his films have been absorbed into nothingness.
Quote from: Walrus on March 13, 2009, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: mogwai on March 11, 2009, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Walrus on March 11, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: mogwai on March 10, 2009, 02:05:48 PM
it's easily hands down the best swedish movie i have ever seen.
I heard Bergman is pretty good.
i heard he's not up to much these days.
And in death, all of his films have been absorbed into nothingness.
i think he's alright, i think "fanny and alexander" is just pure brilliance. i think he's more remembered outside of sweden, because most of us swedes find it boring to talk about him.
edit: three "i think".
This is as enthralling fantasy as I can remember seeing. Every inch of this film had me sucked in and now that I've just watched it for the first time, I want to watch it again. I would have to point to Miyazaki's better works to identify films that really re-define their genre the way this film does. Considering I own all of Miyazaki's films, I could see this being a similar kind of favorite.
A few critics (that I've read) bashed this film not because it was bad, but because it was well made for what to them seemed like a mediocre subject. I don't think the film should be criticized for a lack of magnitude. It is about vampires and the subject is a genre tale, but the film rightly stays true to a lot of the hallmarks of the genre. I think if Let the Right One in started to become a social or political film, I would have criticized it, but it's just a love story. Simple in nature, but everything in this film is so well made and inviting that that is the true endearment.
my problem wasn't really about how it failed to be an epic. but instead, it was content with placing one genre next to the other. I appreciated the trailer, which told me it might be a good idea, while the film itself never delivered. the marriage of the two genres wasn't snug and was a bit generic. instead of one predictable story, this film had two, that was the big whoop. nothing about the script made me care for the boy's plight, since it was extremely typical and one-dimensional. nothing about the love story was particularly sweet, and nothing about the vampire story was scary or sexy.
Quote from: pete on March 23, 2009, 02:42:48 AM
my problem wasn't really about how it failed to be an epic. but instead, it was content with placing one genre next to the other. I appreciated the trailer, which told me it might be a good idea, while the film itself never delivered. the marriage of the two genres wasn't snug and was a bit generic. instead of one predictable story, this film had two, that was the big whoop. nothing about the script made me care for the boy's plight, since it was extremely typical and one-dimensional. nothing about the love story was particularly sweet, and nothing about the vampire story was scary or sexy.
I never saw it as the merging of two genres. To me the film was a love story that was about a vampire. It meant that the film had to show signs of different genres, but it never fully embraced them. The main tone of the film was an effective and ambient tone that was more reminiscient of certain European styles. The film isn't a huge push to curb style trends like other art films, but the choices it made helped make the story more inviting for me.
I understand how the film can come off as generic. If you don't buy into the characters then a lot of what works about the film will come off as hollow and boring. If the film didn't have the style to it I'm not sure I would have liked it at all. The story would have come as overly simplistic, but the style paints each character in effective and interesting ways (to me at least).
I never viewed it as a love story. Just a coming of age story about two friends.
spoilers
I don't think coming of age or love story is really wrong, but I prefer the term love story because the only thing that Oskar comes of age to is somewhat being able to defend himself. Other than that he is still the same person, but his companionship with Elise is what really grows. And considering the main development at the end is their romantic inclinations, I saw it as a love story more.
Quote from: john on March 10, 2009, 02:18:21 PM
There's a U.S. blu-ray release, too. I think the U.S. one has better audio, but yours has better subtitles.
Magnolia Lets the Wrong Subtitles In Source: ShockTillYouDrop
Kudos to the fellas over at Icons of Fright for being astute. They've just posted a comparison between subtitles on Magnolia's recent DVD and Blu-Ray release of Let the Right One In and the subtitles on an international copy of the film. The differences are...well, pretty surprising. Check 'em out here complete with screen grabs:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html
Holy shit, those subtitles are fucking terrible!! That's such a shame, my sister was waiting for it to come out on dvd, and now she's going have to read this fucking garbage. This is depressing. I'm at work so I can't really look, but is there a good torrent for the international version?
SHIT. my thoughts exactly. i was about to show my gf, but if there is a blu-ray international eng subs torrent, that's the only way i'll let her see it. this is a HUGE bummer.
Source: Digital Bits
In other news today, you might recall that we recently reviewed Magnet's Let the Right One In on Blu-ray Disc. Well, it's just come to our attention that the DVD and Blu-ray versions have English subtitles that differ substantially from those of the theatrical art house presentation, in that much of the subtle nuance has been lost and many original lines of dialogue are untranslated entirely. Unfortunately, having only seen the film once in theatres, I wasn't familiar enough with the translation to spot the differences. But Icons of Fright has posted some examples of just how different the subtitles are. We contacted Magnet directly on this issue this afternoon, and they were quick to respond as follows:
"We've been made aware that there are several fans that don't like the version of the subtitles on the DVD/BR. We had an alternate translation that we went with. Obviously a lot of fans thought we should have stuck with the original theatrical version. We are listening to the fans feedback, and going forward we will be manufacturing the discs with the subtitles from the theatrical version."
We asked Magnet some follow-up questions, specifically how people will be able to identify the new discs, when they'll be available in stores and if there will be an exchange program for those who have the existing version. Here's what they said:
"There are no exchanges. We are going to make an alternate version available however. For those that wish to purchase a version with the theatrical subtitles, it will be called out in the tech specs box at the back/bottom of the package where it will list SUBTITLES: ENGLISH (Theatrical), SPANISH."
The no exchange thing is going to upset many that have already purchased the disc, and understandably so. We're at least encouraged to see that the title is being corrected. We'll let you know when the discs are available, and rest assured we're letting Magnet know that an exchange program might be a wise idea...
great. can somebody post a heads-up if anyone sees one of the new ones in stores?
and in the meantime if a blu-ray torrent with theatrical subtitles, post it please.
thanks all.
This is seriously fucked up. Quite possibly the best movie of the year and people aren't even able to watch it as the best movie of the year because the subs are all fucked.
The producers should sue Magnolia. Something like this is able to sink a potential classic.
i feel betrayed but i was able to fall in love with the shittily subtitled one before i knew the difference. i can see why i was confused by certain things now.. i look at the fact that there's a better translation out there like it's weird icing on the cake. i may have found a proper blu demonoid torrent but it's going to take a few days to confirm.
maybe y'all should take a crash course in swedish for newbeginners? :yabbse-wink:
a friend gave me a link to a subs file. if anyone has a non-hard subbed version this'll do for the time being.
http://scifi.pages.at/qrnqrn/Let.the.Right.One.In.srt.zip
This is why I love these boards.
Quote from: SiliasRuby on March 24, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
Source: Digital Bits
In other news today, you might recall that we recently reviewed Magnet's Let the Right One In on Blu-ray Disc. Well, it's just come to our attention that the DVD and Blu-ray versions have English subtitles that differ substantially from those of the theatrical art house presentation, in that much of the subtle nuance has been lost and many original lines of dialogue are untranslated entirely. Unfortunately, having only seen the film once in theatres, I wasn't familiar enough with the translation to spot the differences. But Icons of Fright has posted some examples of just how different the subtitles are. We contacted Magnet directly on this issue this afternoon, and they were quick to respond as follows:
"We've been made aware that there are several fans that don't like the version of the subtitles on the DVD/BR. We had an alternate translation that we went with. Obviously a lot of fans thought we should have stuck with the original theatrical version. We are listening to the fans feedback, and going forward we will be manufacturing the discs with the subtitles from the theatrical version."
We asked Magnet some follow-up questions, specifically how people will be able to identify the new discs, when they'll be available in stores and if there will be an exchange program for those who have the existing version. Here's what they said:
"There are no exchanges. We are going to make an alternate version available however. For those that wish to purchase a version with the theatrical subtitles, it will be called out in the tech specs box at the back/bottom of the package where it will list SUBTITLES: ENGLISH (Theatrical), SPANISH."
The no exchange thing is going to upset many that have already purchased the disc, and understandably so. We're at least encouraged to see that the title is being corrected. We'll let you know when the discs are available, and rest assured we're letting Magnet know that an exchange program might be a wise idea...
As predicted after yesterday's post, we've gotten TONS of e-mails from fans of Let the Right One In who are upset that Magnolia isn't putting together some kind of exchange program for people who purchased DVD and Blu-ray versions with the substandard subtitles. For those of you who wish to contact Magnolia, here's the contact page (http://www.magpictures.com/contact.aspx) on their website. We suggest you use the dvd@magpictures.com e-mail address. PLEASE BE COURTEOUS! Trust me, you're much more likely to get results if you're polite than just fire off an angry rant.
Doesn't help me if I want to rent it though, does it?
No, it doesn't
now i can see a good reason why this is remade in english without any dodgy subtitles. :yabbse-smiley:
while the subs i linked to are the right translation, it will only sync with screener copies of the film... every piece of dialogue comes in a few seconds early.. is there a way to shift every sub over by a couple seconds in one command? otherwise it'll take a loooooooong time.
edit: i've noticed the international screener is 5 minutes shorter than the american blu. it seems like it's very slightly sped up.... this is really difficult.
Probably 25fps instead of 24?
So, my friend saw this on dvd and totally loved it, and was confused only a little bit by the bad subtitles. He heard about how bad they were afterward, but wasn't disappointed with the viewing experience he had.
Quote from: picolas on March 26, 2009, 02:08:30 PM
while the subs i linked to are the right translation, it will only sync with screener copies of the film... every piece of dialogue comes in a few seconds early.. is there a way to shift every sub over by a couple seconds in one command? otherwise it'll take a loooooooong time.
with VLC it's very easy you can't miss the option the delay the subs when you load them ... pm me if you want a screenshot or something
Quote from: Gamblour. on March 26, 2009, 08:58:32 PM
So, my friend saw this on dvd and totally loved it, and was confused only a little bit by the bad subtitles. He heard about how bad they were afterward, but wasn't disappointed with the viewing experience he had.
am i that friend? they were noticeably bad to me and the subtitle mishap was unbeknownst to me. found myself confused and rewinding. worse though were the dubbed English voices it was defaulted on. those were urgently switched to sinking subs.
still, it somehow managed to bewitch me, yada yada. . same way it did to Stefen and others.
Apparently Netflix now has this available to watch instantly, complete with the original, non-shitty subtitles. I will finally be seeing it very soon. :yabbse-smiley:
EDIT: There seems to be something fucked up with the film's sound on Netflix. I watched about ten minutes before deciding it wasn't just really, really avant-garde sound design, and there was actually something wrong with it. I'll try again later and see if they've fixed whatever the problem is.
yes, streaming netflix has the good subtitles. i just watched it by simultaneously playing the blu ray i rented from netflix and the streaming netflix on my laptop...that way i could watch the beautiful blu ray and peek over to read the right subtitles.
yeah, i feel like a pretty big nerd.
Quote from: abuck1220 on April 19, 2009, 12:44:48 AM
yes, streaming netflix has the good subtitles. i just watched it by simultaneously playing the blu ray i rented from netflix and the streaming netflix on my laptop...that way i could watch the beautiful blu ray and peek over to read the right subtitles.
yeah, i feel like a pretty big nerd.
You know the Netflix version is a high-def stream, right? If you have a device running it to your TV, it's not going to be quite as good as bluray, but it's damn good quality.
what they did with the subtitles it's a crime.
about the film itself, i enjoyed it and i get the praise, but it felt like it is a more engrossing experience as a book. a bunch of things felt...I don't know, just unexplored for lenght's sake.
spoiler
the bit about the father's friend (supposedly a child molester) is noe of the highlights of this problems for me, but i felt it all over. Never felt the main character was particularly neglected by his parents, and it would have been truly fascinating to learn more about the old guy taking care of the girl, their relationship, etc..
Overall I liked it, I admire it a lot, but it only makes me want to read the book.
Before we sign off for the week, however, I do have one quick update for you on Let the Right One In. As we posted yesterday, Magnolia has finally re-released the Region 1 DVD version in the States with corrected theatrical subtitles, but a corrected Blu-ray version is still MIA here. HOWEVER, the good news is that if you love the film and you just can't wait for Magnolia to get its BD fix in stores... we're told that Momentum Pictures' U.K. Blu-ray release (available here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002BMZZM8?tag=thedigitalbit-20&link_code=as2&creativeASIN=B002BMZZM8&creative=374929&camp=211189) at Amazon.co.uk for about $22 USD shipped to the States) DOES have the correct theatrical English subtitles AND it's an all-region disc, compatible with U.S./Region A players. Thanks to all you crafty/import-savvy Bits readers who sent us e-mails to let us know about this edition. Where there's a will, there's a way...
[EDITOR'S NOTE: We're now getting reports that the DTS-HD MA track on this import BD is defective, and that Momentum will have fixed copies available soon. Wait to order your copy until we've confirmed that fixed copies are in stock at Amazon.co.uk. Guess this film just had bad luck all around on Blu...]
I saw this yesterday...
I liked it a lot. Even if i had read all of the comments and critics here, it didnt disappoint me at all... it had all the elements I expected from a vampire story, but the relationship between them..and the fact that they're kids was a nice twist...or turn of the screw..it somehow brouhgt that to my mind, kids and evil..you know...
The performances are great, I think the girl is awesome. Did you notice how much her face changes throughout the movie?
nice images too, loved the shots of the forest.
I understand if someone finds it a bit boring. There's silence sorrounding the story, in the dialogues, in the images...but i thought of it as a way to highlight both main characters' personalities...or emotions.
It all works ok for me.
In a fist-fight, LTROI would pwn those shitty Twilight saga movies. At the same time.
From thedigitalbits:
For those of you who have been eagerly awaiting Magnolia's revised U.S. Blu-ray version of Let the Right One In, with the English (Theatrical) subtitles instead of the mediocre translation on the original BD release, we have our first official sighting. Bits reader Mike L. just found a copy at a Barnes and Noble store in Evansville, Indiana, and he was kind enough to take pix of the packaging to prove it...
So it looks like the disc is finally out there. We'll let you know when we can confirm that Amazon has the fixed stock. And no, we don't know of any exchange program with the studio (but if we can get a response from them we'll let you know).
Finally today, Bits reader Michael D. e-mailed yesterday to say that he recently purchased a copy of Magnolia's Let the Right One In on Blu-ray from Amazon.com, and he received the corrected version with English theatrical subs. Which means the retailer now has them in stock, and you should have no problems getting your hands on a copy though them.
Quote from: MacGuffin on December 15, 2009, 09:45:15 PM
Finally today, Bits reader Michael D. e-mailed yesterday to say that he recently purchased a copy of Magnolia's Let the Right One In on Blu-ray from Amazon.com, and he received the corrected version with English theatrical subs. Which means the retailer now has them in stock, and you should have no problems getting your hands on a copy though them.
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what about .ca???
Still hard to believe after my months-long odyssey of looking for this it's this easy to obtain. I ordered a copy, we'll see how it goes...
Oh, it was correct! So I re-gifted my DVD to my cousin and the saga is officially over.
I never liked this film because I thought the bullies were too cartoonish and took up too much screen time. I just never found the Coming-of-Age angle ring true, and was disappointed because I'm a pretty big sucker for coming-of-age stories and it seems like one of the genres that just keeps on giving.
but in this movie, the bullies operated similarly to the ones in Drillbit Taylor - they're kids outside of the character's sphere, who pull violent pranks on the hero day after the day.
a bully, as I understand it, is never the outright enemy - it's usually someone of power, in the circle that the victim either wants or needs to be a part of for survival, like any abusive relationship. the victim has to feel like he needs the bully on some level, and the bully makes everything like a game that everyone plays, so when the victim protests and can't keep up, he feels weak and stupid for not being able to take, what is essentially, torment. then the bullies can pile on and laugh at the kid for not being able to take a joke or whatever context. but the tricky thing about the bully is that he'll never outright antagonize a child. that's why they call it "teasing", but it's devastating to a child.
I mean there are instances when a child is legitimately antagonized- like the recent string of gay kids who are ostracized by the entire community. but more often you have instances like the college student who killed himself because he was outed by people who were supposed to be his friends. the bullying that takes place in Let the Right One In feels like neither.
most famous movies don't have good characterization of bullying either - the karate kid, for example, had a terrible bully. he was much more akin to a gangster than a bully, but it's fine for that movie because it existed in a sports film/ martial arts movie world. Let the Right One In had more nuanced acting and details, but totally missed the point in one of the biggest parts of the story. Sixth Sense had a way better bully, and he only had like four scenes.
I disagree. I thought it was fairly clear that the bully was picking on Oskar in the same way the bullies brother was picking on him. Oskar was an easy target: a weird kid who wouldn't fight back who the bully could make himself feel a little better in front of his friends.
what did you disagree with?
Your oddly specific definition of bullying, I presume.
I think there are many different versions of bullying. I don't think bullying is so cut and dry.
You have the physically abusive bullies who throw you on the ground, sit on your chest then do that thing where they have a string of phlegmy spit dangling from their mouth then they suck it back up right before it hits your mug or they grab your fists and use them to punch you in the face then ask you, "why are you hitting yourself?!" That one always bothered me the most.
Then you have basically the narcissistic bullies who just use people who are weak as a means of showing how awesome they are. They're usually verbally abusive but not really physically abusive. They always leave the threat of physical abuse there tho so you don't get any big ideas. "What did you say, faggot? Look at this dork wearing a life vest. Thinks he's gonna drown!"
Those are just two examples. There are plenty more. Bullies are believable in every movie because they come in all shapes and sizes.
Quote from: Stefen on October 15, 2010, 05:00:38 PM
I think there are many different versions of bullying. I don't think bullying is so cut and dry.
You have the physically abusive bullies who throw you on the ground, sit on your chest then do that thing where they have a string of phlegmy spit dangling from their mouth then they suck it back up right before it hits your mug or they grab your fists and use them to punch you in the face then ask you, "why are you hitting yourself?!" That one always bothered me the most.
Then you have basically the narcissistic bullies who just use people who are weak as a means of showing how awesome they are. They're usually verbally abusive but not really physically abusive. They always leave the threat of physical abuse there tho so you don't get any big ideas. "What did you say, faggot? Look at this dork wearing a life vest. Thinks he's gonna drown!"
Those are just two examples. There are plenty more. Bullies are believable in every movie because they come in all shapes and sizes.
You guys ever had that bully who's a really good friend one-on-one and becomes a huge jerk whenever others are around? Those are pretty terrible. After a couple times you decide to stop hanging out with him altogether and he gets really mad, more like a small baby than a kid would. Mine even cried, and he was like, 14. Must've been a pretty troubled kid.