Inherent Vice - SPOILERS!

Started by MacGuffin, October 01, 2014, 02:10:50 PM

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WorldForgot

Quote from: wilberfan on November 01, 2019, 01:23:06 PM
Please tell me they're not doing one scene per episode...

It's a dense movie, wilberfan!
Real estate politics in LA, counter-culture sprouting love and turning sour, slapstick police violence and almost every scene provides a new environment of class-production deconstruction.

wilberfan

Yikes.  A quick search says the shooting script had 114 scenes.  One episode per week means they'll finish just over 2 years from now??
"When something doesn't resonate, it quickly becomes a tedious endurance test."

eward


wilberfan

Quote from: wilberfan on November 01, 2019, 02:38:41 PM
Yikes.  A quick search says the shooting script had 114 scenes.  One episode per week means they'll finish just over 2 years from now??
Just finished the first episode.  They alternatively used the number '50' and '45' to refer to the number of podcast episodes, so perhaps the term 'scene' is being used differently here than in the shooting script.
"When something doesn't resonate, it quickly becomes a tedious endurance test."

eward

I'm really looking forward to the episodes featuring non-admirers.

wilberfan

I am as well.  Their enthusiasm was a bit much at times--but to be fair, I'd have been right there with them if they were obsessing over, say, Boogie Nights.
"When something doesn't resonate, it quickly becomes a tedious endurance test."

eward

Your recent viewing didn't warm you any?

wilberfan

Actually, to be honest, it did.  A bit.  It took away the white-hot disappointment and betrayal I felt at my first viewing.  So, now I'm at a place of agnostic, non-committal openness to hearing about it's qualities and deeper levels of meaning. 

Perhaps the healing has begun. 
"When something doesn't resonate, it quickly becomes a tedious endurance test."

eward


WorldForgot

Quote from: wilberfan on November 01, 2019, 11:11:48 PM
Actually, to be honest, it did.  A bit.  It took away the white-hot disappointment and betrayal I felt at my first viewing.  So, now I'm at a place of agnostic, non-committal openness to hearing about it's qualities and deeper levels of meaning. 


Perhaps the healing has begun.

Been waiting to read your react. Glad to hear! I know the night i was there it was almost wall to wall laughs in the hall.

eward

Made #20 on Ebert.com's Top 25 of the 10s list.

By Matt Zoller Seitz

A stoned film about a stoned time, Paul Thomas Anderson's "Inherent Vice" is also an example of a sub-type of American crime film that's not hugely different from what's known as a "hangout movie." In this kind of film, there is a mystery, and it does get solved by the end (though sometimes only partially), but the exercise is ultimately a pretext to hang out with eccentric characters and soak in their time and place. Adapted from Thomas Pynchon's novel, "Vice" is set in Los Angeles circa 1970, when the utopian dreams of the counterculture were already being replaced by a mix of nostalgia and greed. Joaquin Phoenix's detective hero recalls The Dude as much as Philip Marlowe, a druggie struggling to remember details and keep his eye on the ball. Anderson gives lovely solos to his peerless supporting cast, which includes Katherine Waterston, Owen Wilson, Michael Kenneth Williams, Reese Witherspoon, Jena Malone, and Josh Brolin. The latter's jar-headed right-wing cop makes for an unexpectedly poignant scene partner for Phoenix's hippie sleuth. Their tense scene-sharing becomes something like a metaphor for the political divisions within America, or something, man. Sorry, what were we saying?

https://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/the-best-films-of-the-2010s

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eward

Oh fuck I totally forgot it was Friday!!!!!!! Yessss

wilberfan

I'm an hour into Episode 02, and in my newly agnostic-about-the-film state-of-mind, I'm beginning to wonder how much of this I will be up for.   It feels like I'm listening to two people masturbate in front of each other--and not in a hot Pornhub kind of way.   It doesn't feel like it needs a full 90-ish minutes to cover this ground, either.   I admire what they're doing, and how much they're into it, but it's almost a little embarrassing eavesdropping (Peeping-Toming?) on this indulgent moment that these two people are having with each other. I might be better served by a Best of Increment Vice or Increment Vice Recap each week:  A 20 minute summary of that weeks full episode.
"When something doesn't resonate, it quickly becomes a tedious endurance test."

Drenk

I wasn't interested because the concept seems absurd to me, there's no point to make that many hours for one movie, just chill, folks. Your post made me listen to a few minutes of Episode 2. There was definitely a weird sexual vibe that made me want to run away. But as a document of fetichism, that's precious.
Ascension.