when it becomes free and easy available, will someone please post the Kanye West/Lil Pump Spike Jonze video that debuted tonight at the Pornhub Awards which West was the creative director for? thanks
here's a camera pointed at it playing but this really should disappear and i want the real deal anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcUKqmTCz8
Quote from: jenkins on September 07, 2018, 02:58:48 AM
when it becomes free and easy available, will someone please post the Kanye West/Lil Pump Spike Jonze video that debuted tonight at the Pornhub Awards which West was the creative director for? thanks
here's a camera pointed at it playing but this really should disappear and i want the real deal anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcUKqmTCz8
Spike Jonze is credited as an "Executive Producer". But.
That was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard and/or watched.
thanks Drenk
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 07, 2018, 11:13:37 AM
That was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard and/or watched.
Yeah, shit like that makes me really happy Eminem is going after this kind of garbage rap. He may seem like a crotchety old man to some, but he's doing the Lord's work.
it's a music video made for a Pornhub award ceremony. you guys can understand this when it's Boogie Nights but not when it's real life, that's what bothers me. i'm not saying you guys bother me, just that general concept bothers me.
Quote from: Drenk on September 07, 2018, 06:14:35 AM
Not hating and not the thread for it, but I genuinely don't understand people who hate on modern hip-hop. What don't y'all like about this? It's fun and irreverent.
Quote from: BB on September 07, 2018, 11:53:23 PM
Quote from: Drenk on September 07, 2018, 06:14:35 AM
Not hating and not the thread for it, but I genuinely don't understand people who hate on modern hip-hop. What don't y'all like about this? It's fun and irreverent.
because it's simplistic drivel barren of any substance where every rapper sounds exactly the same making the same garbage song over and over again with nothing to distinguish one from the other, no originality and bare minimal creativity. it's like having every superhero have the same superpower. with the exception of kendrick lamar, asap, and barely a handful of other, the shit is glaringly polar opposite of the tenets that defined what hip-hop/rap music is. it's a fucking joke. kamikazee made some good points, even though i'm not huge on em's sonic speed delivery. there are no more bars and intelligent lyrics, and this is going on 10 years now. it's all simplistic auto-tuned excrement spewed out a codeine syrup lean laden mind.
"Irreverent" though, really? I don't think the way this brand of hip-hop celebrates commercialism, sexism, and shallowness qualifies as irreverent. It's just lifestyle music. It has nothing to say, it's often actively toxic, and it's boring.
the anger is disproportionate to the situation, this is simply the wrong time to fight fellas, it's a song and music video for a porn awards ceremony.
in a general context there's still too much anger, in my opinion. who is everyone mad at? Eminem is losing fellas. Here's the initial Earl Sweatshirt diss
QuoteIf you still follow Eminem, you drink way too much Mountain Dew and probably need to like, come home from the army
Eminem said:
QuoteGet Earl the Hooded Sweater
Eminem diid not win that, or come even close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCbWLSZrZfw
can this conversation
please be moved elsewhere? maybe saved for a proper time?
Quote from: Something Spanish on September 08, 2018, 05:15:57 AM
because it's simplistic drivel barren of any substance where every rapper sounds exactly the same making the same garbage song over and over again with nothing to distinguish one from the other, no originality and bare minimal creativity. it's like having every superhero have the same superpower.
But aren't these the same exact arguments that were levelled against punk music when it started out? And rock and roll before it? And hip-hop after? Listen to Joe Budden talk about Lil Yachty, it's like Dean Martin talking about The Rolling Stones. There's definitely a lot of soundcloud rap out there that I don't care for, that does get a little muddy or lacks the spark, but it's all in the game. It's a bunch of teenagers getting high and making music in their bedrooms! And somehow managing to revolutionize a genre and industry.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 08, 2018, 10:25:02 AM
"Irreverent" though, really? I don't think the way this brand of hip-hop celebrates commercialism, sexism, and shallowness qualifies as irreverent. It's just lifestyle music. It has nothing to say, it's often actively toxic, and it's boring.
Yeah, for sure! It displays irreverence towards the institution that mainstream rap had become. A giant fuck you to the craft, lyricism, and history their predecessors hold so dear. This is what young people are for!
Again, not judging at all, I totally get why this music wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. But the HATRED seems extreme to me. We know this is what always happens when something new comes around. Why not just giggle and give in?
so don't call it hip-hop or rap, call it something else. maybe garbage, excrement, or dung heap. punk isn't called rock, neither is metal, it's its own genre. i'm glad there is innovation for the youth, if you want to call it that, i just can't get with the mumble trap shit at all. call it old age, or call it living in the era of biggie pac mobb wu nas outkast geto boys.
I'm young, and I hate it. Obviously, as Jenkis said, this video has been made for a porn website and it's half a song—but it could have been a normal track from one of the thousand clones we have nowadays. Streaming created vapid musical content. They're not against the powers that be. They are the powers that be. I still can't explain Drake. In My Feelings became a single, but it's a stupid track buried in an overlong mess: you can make everything you want with enough followers, a sufficient narrative, and an ability to create viral moments.
But it's just the noise. Hip-hop is full of interesting artists, and it's transforming itself into something new. What's Frank Ocean genra? I don't know exactly.
punk and metal are rock. they're subgenres.
what's being described is what's called the democratization of music, it affects all people of all ages.
everything will be okay.
they performed it on snl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rJfSHnOZeY
shittalking pitchfork is like one of my favorite social hobbies, since they're so obvious, but btw they have a great Lil Pump review (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/lil-pump-lil-pump/)
(https://i.imgur.com/vTwrfPT.jpg?1)
QuoteRap has always favored the young, but never more so than in 2017, where the genre's entire distribution model is tilted toward internet-savvy artists on the vanguard of social and musical trends. Along with fellow Miami native and frequent collaborator Smokepurpp, 17-year-old Lil Pump is part of a surge of SoundCloud rappers so intuitively aware of what plays online that, knowingly or not, they've essentially Moneyballed rap music, racking up tens of millions of streams with no-budget songs they've barely even bothered to master. Major labels used to spend small fortunes to achieve that kind of reach. Lil Pump doesn't even need a real microphone.
In truth, even the most well-financed A&R team could only dream about creating a rapper as shareable as Pump, who at first glance can seem less like a real artist than a computer's too-perfect aggregation of what rap looks and sounds like at this precise moment. He's got Lil Yachty's sense of flamboyant style and adventurous hair and Lil Uzi Vert's taste in drugs, designers, and bright, cartoony cover art. His biggest, most blown-out tracks play like the tortured last gasps of an imploded subwoofer. And, in an evergreen angle that's always catnip for the media, he carries an air of punk rebellion. A memorable New York Times profile opens with an account of Pump sparking an all-out brawl after kicking a fan in the head on stage, then instructing a friend to send footage of the scuffle to a hip-hop blogger. A self-marketer to the core, he played the incident for maximum viral reach.
If all that suggests a certain cynicism, it's to Pump's credit that none of it comes through in his music. There isn't a moment on his brisk self-titled debut album where he doesn't sound completely, endearingly stoked, and that kind of total commitment is all too rare on any rap album, mumble or otherwise. Where Uzi and Yachty tend to check out of their lesser material, Pump doubles down on every song, injecting SremmLife-levels of enthusiasm into even the rare ones that fall short of their goal of rattling around in listeners' heads for hours after just a few exposures. Every track is loud, hyper, and catchy just to the brink of obnoxiousness, with only a couple crossing that threshold by a step or two.
Chief Keef is ostensibly the model for Pump's economical, catchphrase-heavy style of rapping, and Pump has cited him as an inspiration. Compared to Keef's tough guest turn on "Whitney," though, Pump sounds like a kid brother too giddy with mischief to maintain a straight face. The album is filled with moments like that, guest spots from elder statesmen that mostly underscore Pump's youth. A throwback, Lex Luger-style beat from producer Bighead highlights the generational divide between Pump and a half-present Gucci Mane on "Youngest Flexer," while Rick Ross has never sounded more like a wooly mammoth succumbing to the tar pit than he does cast against Pump's boyish patter on "Pinky Ring."
As the first extended exposure to an artist previously heard only in brief fits, Lil Pump's debut is impressively consistent, a sign that the divisive rapper may have more staying power than his many detractors have predicted. But even at a trim 36 minutes, the album does hint at some of the traps Pump could fall into if he runs out of ways to keep his routine fresh. Like Lil Uzi Vert or Mac Miller, whose voice Pump's recalls during some of the album's lazier hooks, Pump sometimes defaults to sickly simple melodies. The album's two outright duds, "Foreign" and "Iced Out," tell a stark cautionary tale: If you scale back Pump's modernist trappings, buff away his signature distortion, and tame his jumpy energy, you're basically left with Wiz Khalifa, and the world really doesn't need another one of those.
While nobody would mistake him as one of rap's great thinkers, Pump isn't nearly the meritless insult to hip-hop that his grumpiest critics have cast him as. Compared to some of his SoundCloud peers, his album is almost downright traditionalist—it's certainly not as audacious as Playboi Carti's own self-titled debut, a perpetual motion fidget spinner of an album that regarded rap as entirely optional. That record was, in its own way, an art piece, but Pump couldn't care less about art. Even his distortion isn't artful in any meaningful way; it's just a signifier of volume and excitement. Lil Pump's one and only concern is turning up and he can do it with the best of them.
i'm deliberately soundboarding this. get mean, idgaf. get emotional if you wanna lol yeah right you won't. i like it. it's so inspired by feeling emotional while watching anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLhYdhu7-v8
why all these original artists sharing "Lil" is like silly
at any rate, there's a whole new generation coming. i hear they wanna call it generation z, and that's so funny to me. everyone's still trying to figure out what follows post-modernism. the future was yesterday.
Lil Peep Died Before Becoming Pop Royalty. His New Music May Change That. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/arts/music/lil-peep-archives-come-over-when-youre-sober.html)
QuoteThere may be a soundtrack to accompany a coming documentary about Peep's life. (Terrence Malick, a friend of the Womack family, is an executive producer.)
his MOM directed the music video. it ain't even a publicity stunt it's just for real. it just what it is. personally i find it tremendously beautiful, it's community and shared feelings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMCVp6INpnw
QuoteLIZA'S DIRECTOR'S NOTES:
I'm so proud to have been given the opportunity to collaborate with Steven Mertens on the video for Runaway. It has allowed me to make something beautiful for my son -- in his honor. Early in the process, many of us agreed that Runaway would be a great song to release as a single for COWYS 2. It is a powerful song that tells the story of how Gus--aka Lil Peep--had decided to leave his apartment in LA, but he didn't want to come home to live in Long Beach, either. So, he had gone to stay in London. That was a productive and happy time for him--working with friends like Smokeasac and ILoveMakonnen.
This video tells that part of Gus's story. The story is told using many of Gus's drawings, from different periods of his life. After transforming into the wonderful "flaming-haired" character that Gus drew, himself, he flies away from LAX to London--to make music with some of his best friends.
I know you will enjoy watching it. You will see different things each time you watch. His drawings. His tattoos. His friends. The house where he really lived. And his dog, Taz, the "legend."
Pitchfork placed Lil Peep's Hellboy as a significant album from the past (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/lil-peep-hellboy/). he simply spreads so far one had to be chosen, and this is the one to choose, because of all its bangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJCEUcDsLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlDVnfZotkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gis7wvW1cd0
this dude is so small that he doesn't need to clarify it in his name
it'd all be so ridiculous without that wonderful music video art
Tyler the Creator's manager signed him. i didn't realize this stuff was headed toward mainstream. it's rather very clearly the dominant genre within teen culture now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYOmOEg_nvI
Oh yeah, this stuff is THE mainstream for younglings right now. I'm still here for it, though I must admit it's a little disappointing to find elements of late-90s/early-aughts rap metal creeping in at the edges ($uicideboy$, Lil Godd, this Jumex dude). Fully admit my personal bias but I can't sanction that buffoonery. Still fascinating of course but my own enjoyment is diminished.
Hilarious that there's already a new generation. That the guys I like best and am most familiar with (XXX, Peep, Ski Mask, Trippie Redd, Yachty, Juice Wrld, etc.) are all establishment figures of influence. Elder statesmen whose careers only started like three years ago. While their progenitors (Odd Future, Lil B, etc.) are still well under 30. It's kinda nuts. Although, I guess that's how this works and only seems nuts to me now that I know three years isn't such a long time. How long did hair metal last? Maybe six years? Grunge like five years? Rap metal from 99-03? I mean, The Beatles only put out records for ~7 years and broke up when they were 27, 28, and 30. So Jumex is either The Beatles or Papa Roach is what I'm saying.
basically it's a machine now and something always overthrows the machine
internet people, i need to share about what continues to go on with millions of teens, the self-made-stardom of internet-savvy people. these ones are angelenos. if you don't know her you're missing out, Billie Eilish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDfgMOUjCI
she's globally popular. she wears baggy clothes to avoid body shame. baggy clothes--a part of the 90s comeback that's been missing. nah but these fashions are eclectic you know. Billie Eilish Pirate Baird O'Connell writes songs with her brother Finneas O'Connell. they have parents "in the entertainment industry." he has his own music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjmBLCbTgDo
THEY ARE SO EMOTIONAL. so emotional. and sincere. and just binge honest. open. real human shit. keeping it real. and again: they're angelenos though. there's more of them. there's Gnash. his father a musician, his mother a director and producer. these are kids brought up to believe in the entertainment industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiQIc7fG9pA
MILLIONS OF TEENAGERS
SO EMOTIONAL
INDUSTRY-TYPE YOUNG-ANGELENOS
it's all so esoteric but there are millions of teens in a global culture who totally fucking vibe it: it's heavy-2019-shit
and Tyler the Creator, an angeleno, had his first number one with Igor, this song is the song that's the jam on the new album if you were wondering about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gvEfIbGJxQ
they saying: this is how you invent yourself you fucks lol
Billie as the end credits on Brightburn iz big lolz
Had a convo about Tyler last night with a friend of mine that wants to make music, and it's really something to think back on BASTARD and GOBLIN and all the work thats gone into the music and embrace he has now. It really has been WORK too.
Dood has shaped so much culture, there's a GOLF store on FAIRFAX, fuck, like I remember my friend so hype, he got to shoot the announcement runway show, the first fleur shoez and first soda machine chairz unveiled on livestream, that frkn awesome loop he made for the show.
"I ate one roach and i made a lotta money"
"and while yall rollin doobiez, i be in my bedroom scorin moviez"
(https://i.imgur.com/yOSsu0A.png)
this is so real. this is actually happening
the headliner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klsi8CbSm8Y
IT'S LIKE THE LIGHTER THING OF THE PAST, BUT WITH CELLPHONES
i totally get this i'm just the wrong age for it. if i was a teenager i'd be doing just fine because it's basic emotion stuff, which teenagers are better at since adults suck at it
although it's not as if young people don't suck at some things too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W775nQuxOwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOSSmwK-PR0
Can't wait for Bella Thorne first feature, the one that will include all the "real life fucking". On Pornhub.
roughly two years dead and still alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIDySR4SFZI
that's my favorite lil peep song in a while <3
[a jake Paul Instagram post now deleted for some reason, he might actually be wilder]
his Park South Freestyle music video directly imitates Lil Tracy/Lil Peep's Witchblades music video, aesthetically speaking, in terms of the boxed-in video format. he calls himself a content creator and i think he's basically hilarious, that isn't actually rapping. Lil Peep compared it all to becoming a wrestler, like become The Rock or Steve Austin, and he sure nailed that. Lil Peep didn't invent this lifestyle he helped perpetuate it. and here's such a vibrant example, switched from wrestling to boxing
i don't want to hear nobody have a hard time with this. mention your difficulties to your family during zoom Christmas
Quote from: jenkins on December 14, 2020, 09:31:01 PM
[a jake Paul Instagram post now deleted for some reason, he might actually be wilder]
his Park South Freestyle music video directly imitates Lil Tracy/Lil Peep's Witchblades music video, aesthetically speaking, in terms of the boxed-in video format. he calls himself a content creator and i think he's basically hilarious, that isn't actually rapping. Lil Peep compared it all to becoming a wrestler, like become The Rock or Steve Austin, and he sure nailed that. Lil Peep didn't invent this lifestyle he helped perpetuate it. and here's such a vibrant example, switched from wrestling to boxing
Lil peep influence confirmed
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMFe3kxhhpr/
Justin Bieber, Snoop's New Group and More to Perform at Triller Fight Club's Jake Paul Bout (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/justin-bieber-snoops-new-group-and-more-to-perform-at-triller-fight-clubs-jake-paul-bout)
QuoteJustin Bieber, The Black Keys, Doja Cat, Saweetie, Diplo and Major Lazer will perform at Triller Network's upcoming Triller Fight Club boxing match broadcast, the company announced Wednesday, a month ahead of the April 17 event.
Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, Too $hort and E-40's new hip-hop supergroup Mt. Westmore will also make its debut performance at the event — a four-hour, pay-per-view spectacle directed by Emmy-winning filmmaker Bert Marcus that will culminate in a match between social media-star-turned-boxer Jake Paul and fighter Ben Askren.
"This event is more like making a tentpole movie than a boxing match," said Triller Network co-controlling shareholder Ryan Kavanaugh, who spearheads Fight Club. "By bringing in the creative genius Bert Marcus and pairing his unique story-telling vision with his unmatched shooting style, the Fight Club event is going shock and awe people. An all-star artist line-up with a boxing card that mixes pop culture phenoms, legends and rising stars; we are giving the world something that has never been seen or done before."
this is simply a pop culture narrative I've followed, as noted in the above posts^
the idea of Jake Paul as a celebrity boxer reaches its apotheosis tonight. this is when he introduces the concept of himself as a genuine boxer. he's boxing decade-older Ben Askren (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Askren), most known not as an unmedalled olympian but as the swiftest ko in mma history (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LlI5lgWvg). these are the evening's headliners. this is Ben's first time boxing and there's copious evidence that it'll be his last, and that for him this is a matter of a paycheck and branding. seems as if he'll continue to be a sweetie-pie father-figure in Wisconsin, a valuable member of the community
their fight is being sponsored by Triller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triller_(app)), which I learned about through this. it'll be PPV. Snoop Dogg will be a commentator, as he was when Jake ko'd the former-nba player before the Tyson exhibition. Justin Bieber (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ0yjYUFKAE)will be performing. Charli D'Amelio is dancing or something
naturally, the fight itself only interests me as a component of the pop culture narrative. this is hyper 2021. here is what is happening to us in 2021. the lower cards are on now and the main events begin in less than an hour. it's not that I think it's impossible for Askren to win it's that I don't think he's being paid a half-mil to win
https://twitter.com/TeeJThaRealest/status/1383644187107549187
logically, Jake Paul next boxes a boxer
bringing this back for Kanye's lil arm dance movez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL_h9m_-HlE
:lol:
Quote from: jenkins on April 17, 2021, 07:22:54 PM
the idea of Jake Paul as a celebrity boxer reaches its apotheosis tonight.
In other words this has already peaked for me. It was momentarily a combination of Lil Peep and Donald Trump as an influencer boxer and that felt fascinating but the overall substance is lacking. Tonight it's Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul and that's bullshit obviously, RIP Pacquiao, RIP McGregor, hello Nonsense
no sorry yeah I am paying attention to this for cheap thrills. Logan came out wearing a Pokemon card
https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1401734079943426051
Mayweather with an Only Fans hat
https://twitter.com/ESPNRingside/status/1401735034445328390
it really don't look right
https://twitter.com/candrew2001/status/1401738569727844353
accurate
https://twitter.com/JusticeWing8/status/1401741672053157892
this isn't the usual sporting event twitter atmosphere, it's pure internet stuff. I think timewise this thing is over by now and I'm not sure if anything happened
https://twitter.com/zammyTT/status/1401743358029148164
Delightful.
Bruh
:lol: :doh:
oh okay so now influencer boxing is a thing, makes sense
https://twitter.com/benmekler/status/1403925350694801413
I think this is the headline, it's boring. one guy bleeds too much so it's called off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaKacZ5ZJhA
Not sure where to post this and it is well overdue (because I don't think it has been posted here yet?). It's a perfect skate film, and so much more, and everyone with a slight interest in skateboarding (or editing I guess?) should watch it.