Am I alone in thinking that musci videos usedto be amazing like, in the mid 90's but now most videos are crap??
I remember when I was like 15, 16 years old i would watch mtv all day and hardly see the same video twice...now it seems theyonly have like 20 videos and show them all day...
Back in the nineties there were some amazing videos: Radiohead's High and Dry, Fake Plastic Trees,Karma Police and Paranoid Android...Bjork's Human Behavior, It's Oh SoQuiet, Army of Me, I Miss You...Beck's Devil's Haircut, Deadwight and Where it's at?...Portishead's All Mine...U.N.K.L.E.'S Rabbit in your headlights...Blind Melon's NoRain and Toes Across the floor...
Air's Sexy Boy and Kelly watch the stars...Daft Punk's fire and around the world...Massive Attack's Teardrop...Marilyn Manson's Beautiful People...Nine Inch Nails's Closer and The Perfect Drug...Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun...Smashing Pumpkins's 1979...
most of the chemical brothers videos are great too...
Is it just me or these music videos are way better than the LinkinPark, Korn, Limp Bizkit,Eminem, Britney, Nsync, P.O.D., and Sugar Ray videos oftoday...
Oh, and like two days ago I saw a new animated videofrom U.N.K.L.E. that blew me away!!!
i really like the justin timberlake video for "cry me a river".
the foo fighters always put out good music videos. dave grohl is directing them now!
i don't know the name of the song, butthe justin timberlake videoin which he's dancing like in a discoand sounding like michael jackson is kinda cool...
the one pop video i loved was britney's i'm a slave 4u...the son's not bad either...trippy song for a pop princess
I think it's like this because music videos today are more geared toward the image of the performer instead of the image of the song. Think about it. What do you see for the majority of the running time during today's music videos? The performer. Back in the early-mid 90s, Artists wanted videos that would set their single aside and draw your attention to the song. I think the directors they're getting to do these has a lot to do with it as well. Most of them just aren't that good. However, Linkin Park got Mark Romanek to direct their latest one. Usually Linkin Park videos are very uninteresting, but this one is so well made that it almost makes up for their awful music. Stuff is just geared to promote artists' images, not their music. That's the way it is.
mmm... mark romaneak, i havent seen that one. personally i favor
MARK ROMANEK
MICHEL GONDRY
DAYTON & FARIS (sometimes)
JONAS ACKERLUND
for directors still making videos today.
http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=236
Quote from: themodernage02mmm... mark romaneak, i havent seen that one. personally i favor
MARK ROMANEK
MICHEL GONDRY
DAYTON & FARIS (sometimes)
JONAS ACKERLUND
for directors still making videos today.
Who would like to see Radiohead and PTA get together for a video? I think Radiohead are fans of his. Maybe it could happen....maybe.
Don't forget Spike Jonze. He's still making music videos I believe.
And whoever directed White Stripes' "Seven Nation Army" video is very good. I'd like to see more work by them.
I'd like to see Spears and Aguilera in a video together. Topless.
Quote from: European SonWho would like to see Radiohead and PTA get together for a video? I think Radiohead are fans of his. Maybe it could happen....maybe.
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2291&start=15
that daft punk'svideo directed by spike jonze is one ofthefunniest...
the onein which the main character is a dog who carries a radio around like radio raheem in do the right thing...
that dog is such a jonze typical character...you can see some similarities between this dog and the pupeteer in being john malkovich, and charlie kauffman in adaptation...
Quote from: Alexandrothat daft punk'svideo directed by spike jonze is one ofthefunniest...
that track would be Da Funk, hilarious bittersweet video.
once again Chris Cunningham is not getting enuff props:
Bjork- All is Full of Love
Aphex Twin - come to daddy, windowlicker
and the least appreciated classic video of the 90s, up there with Rabbit In Your Headlights:
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Afrika Shox by Leftfield, african dude disintegrates within the modern city, another cunningham classic. y'all will be jumpin on the bandwagon when neuromancer comes, i won't blame ya.
PTA doing a Radiohead video would be nice, but I'm more interested in Radiohead scoring a PTA movie.
The problem with music videos is that it is just one of those things the performer's have to do when they have a new CD and single come out. If they don't do it, then there's a whole market of teens who won't be reached via MTV (eMpTyV). So, as a result, if anyone wants to sell a shitload of CD's, they must have a music video. It doesn't matter if the video is someone dancing around on the beach because the audience is already built in. There are very few people who try to make good music videos. Actually, music videos from soundtracks are the worst because it has all the shit of a normal music video and then the person will walk by a wall or a TV screen and you get to watch a few images of whatever movie the soundtrack is for, in case you didn't see the previews or something.
And Sum 41 can kiss my ass (the bastards). Actually, all the popunk bands can.
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i don't remember MTV ever being real adventurous in the videos they played. maybe the difference is that the you previously liked more mainstream music than you do now.
I'd have to disagree. There was something about a majority of 90s videos that really fucking rocked. Today, I hardly stay on MTV for longer than 10 minutes.
And by the way, the MTV rant was fucking beautiful. I'm just not eloquent enough to say that, but I completely agree.
Also, do the directors of these videos get paid to see how many cuts they can fit into a 3 & 1/2 minute time span or do they just like to make mundane things seem more frantic they normally would?
Quote from: sexterossai don't remember MTV ever being real adventurous in the videos they played. maybe the difference is that the you previously liked more mainstream music than you do now.
i kinda desagree too...definetely the mainstream music back in the nineties was more experimental than these days...jesus, nine inch nails was a mainstream band!! that wouldn't happen now...and they were deifnetely showing what people were asking, but they were showing more...there were so much videos and so much different artists and options...today is insane...they keep showing the same videos all day non stop...
I remember back then it was impossible to see a video at one hour and then catch it on the next hour...today the same video can be shown every hour, it's so fucking boring...
on mtv latino, in mexico, there seem to be a group of artists dominating the programming: shakira, britney, christina, justin, nelly, beyonce, linkin park, sum 41 and eminem...sometimes korn and red hot chilli peppers...
A friend of mine who works on the music bussines told me that the top tens are a bunch of bullshit, he says mtv offers the package slike this: "you want your artist to be on the top ten is this much...you want it to be on the top ten and to the top 5 of the day is this much...you want it to be on the weekly top 20 is thi smuch....you just want it to be on rotation is this much""":...
mtv sucks
Quote from: life_boyAlso, do the directors of these videos get paid to see how many cuts they can fit into a 3 & 1/2 minute time span or do they just like to make mundane things seem more frantic they normally would?
do u even know what ur talking about?
i like how alexandro made 'music videos' and 'MTV' two separate things in the title. the biggest problem with videos is their inherent commerciality, nick cave has said he doesn't like making videos cos they basically are "filming me exhibiting my desire to sell". so like films, a large proportion of them are pieces of shit where the artist involved has no discernable trace of integrity.
about MTV america, all i know is u don't play videos anymore.. in australia we're at 10% shows, 90% music. this means we hav more time especially at these unprofitable hours (midnite to 5am) to show explicit/offensive/meaningful content. this is logical, the daylight hours are better used for teenage brainwashing.
anyway that's how it works here, on the 3 decent music channels that we hav. (the third being free-to-air, and only operating on weekends after midnite), and the videos that i and others hav mentioned are exceptional because they mercilessly explore the potential of these 3-6min film capsules.
they do the same on mtv latino...all day they show crap, but between 1 am and 5 or 6 am they show some pretty cool videos...
i wish they did it a litle earlier, like, maybe 11 pm
MTV sucks.
TOOL makes the best videos, IMO.
windowlicker is the greatest ever, it scares the shit outa me while i'm being cracked up...his dance...ohh that sweet dance.
Radiohead videos kick ass too.
Quote from: jonasMTV sucks.
TOOL makes the best videos, IMO.
Agreed
Quote from: phil marlowewindowlicker is the greatest ever, it scares the shit outa me while i'm being cracked up...his dance...ohh that sweet dance.
Agreed
I know what you mean, MTV has lost all substance and depth. Even MTV2 sucks now. What the hell happened? Whats unique about shaking your bootie in every farking video? Even Jewel, an artist I used to respect because she had some depth, now she just another manufactured pop singer, I refuse to call these videobands as "Artists", because there is not art in it anymore.
Quote from: AlexandroAm I alone in thinking that musci videos usedto be amazing like, in the mid 90's but now most videos are crap??
I remember when I was like 15, 16 years old i would watch mtv all day and hardly see the same video twice...now it seems theyonly have like 20 videos and show them all day...
Back in the nineties there were some amazing videos: Radiohead's High and Dry, Fake Plastic Trees,Karma Police and Paranoid Android...Bjork's Human Behavior, It's Oh SoQuiet, Army of Me, I Miss You...Beck's Devil's Haircut, Deadwight and Where it's at?...Portishead's All Mine...U.N.K.L.E.'S Rabbit in your headlights...Blind Melon's NoRain and Toes Across the floor...
Air's Sexy Boy and Kelly watch the stars...Daft Punk's fire and around the world...Massive Attack's Teardrop...Marilyn Manson's Beautiful People...Nine Inch Nails's Closer and The Perfect Drug...Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun...Smashing Pumpkins's 1979...
most of the chemical brothers videos are great too...
Is it just me or these music videos are way better than the LinkinPark, Korn, Limp Bizkit,Eminem, Britney, Nsync, P.O.D., and Sugar Ray videos oftoday...
Oh, and like two days ago I saw a new animated videofrom U.N.K.L.E. that blew me away!!!
Completely, completely, completely agree
Quote from: AlexandroOh, and like two days ago I saw a new animated video from U.N.K.L.E. that blew me away!!!
What song was it for?
Quote from: m©gwaiQuote from: EEz28Quote from: AlexandroOh, and like two days ago I saw a new animated video from U.N.K.L.E. that blew me away!!!
What song was it for?
my guess it's "eye for an eye". click here (http://www.unkle.com) for further information.
Thanks, I had no idea a new cd was on the way.
Quote from: mogwaiQuote from: EEz28Quote from: AlexandroOh, and like two days ago I saw a new animated video from U.N.K.L.E. that blew me away!!!
What song was it for?
my guess it's "eye for an eye". click here (http://www.unkle.com) for further information.
Yes, it's an Eye for an Eye...
I also saw the new Audislave video and thought it was pretty cool....the one in which they'r ebeing chased on the highway...
I think the world would be a better place if music videos were banned from television (this makes sense, just keep reading!) If MTV and VH1 and other video music stations weren't allowed to show videos, then there wouldn't be as many television head honchos and and big media types deciding what videos were cool. No music videos on television equals no TRL which equals no screaming thirteen year old girls and MTV reps deciding what will be popular and thus the crap pop music today will go the way of the dinosaur (fingers crossed). Videos could still be made, and with amazing DVD technology, videos could be put out on compilations that you buy, and this would actually mean MORE music videos by people who would normally not make them because they know that MTV or VH1 would never play them, and the videos would be wild because there wouldn't be any TV standards and practices people to edit them or not play them. I hope that makes sense!
ANd additionally, this is a ridiculous thing that I saw on TRL (oh yeah, i don't actually like TRL and I bitch about MTV all the time, but for the love of Pete, it seems to be the channel i watch the most). The tenth place video was a tie between two videos, and to decide which one officially made it on the countdown, they assigned each video to a pig, and had them race. Litterally, there was swine deciding what video would be cooler that day. I find that funny.
one- ur assuming ppl make videos only to be shown on mtv/vh1. this was disproven on the first page.
two-if videos moved from tv to dvd exclusive, or even theatre exclusive, they would still be controlled by OTHER HONCHOS. tv isn't the only medium controlled by the dollar or large cooporations..
three- unless u go back in time and kill mtv in its infancy, there is no way to stop the stranglehold it has on popular music culture right now. the best that can be done is that more independent minded kids start buying good music, and not just what's shown on TRL.. then the videos will follow.
p, those are really good points, and I know that my last post was flawed. I know that people don't just make music videos for MTV/VH1, but think about when you see videos not made for major networks, its usually through music DVDs, so i am saying just get rid of the music videos on MTV and with that, what's popular now might not be quite as popular, which i am asuming you would not be opposed to. For people to see music videos, they would have to go to the video store or music store or ebay or whatever and choose from a wide selection of video disc by lots of entertainers, rather than settling on the twenty videos that MTV plays for two hours a day. I know that there are corrupt money hungry people in every medium, but let's eliminate the tv ones, they are the worst in my opinion (not all of them of course, but the median greed level is probably the highest in the TV industry, except maybe for the film industry, but they don't play music videos in theaters, so that is moot)
Also, I am not arguing with you p, i have read many of your post in the past, and i think that you have good ideals and a good head on your shoulders.
[best McLaughlin impersonation]
You're all wrong! The best music video to ever assault the eyes of the American public is VAST's Pretty When You Cry. You really should see this video--the finest cinematic/audio achievement since Elvis performed on the Ed Sullivan Show.
That's all for now. Bye-bye!
[/in retrospect, a pretty crappy McLaughlin impersonation]
But you really should check out the video. You can access it off //www.realvast.com. Go to 'experience,' click on the album on the left, click 'video' and finally 'Pretty When You Cry.' Sorry it's so long of a process, but it's all Flash and has no direct link.
Anyone here ever make a music video? I made one in 7th grade to Tubthumping by Chumbawumba. My friend and literally acted out most of the lyrics ("pissing the night away" would have a guy coming out of the bathroom, for example). I shot and edited it in the camera, which was a circa 1992 VHS camcorder. It took some tries to get the footage and music to sync up. Then I played the edited video on my TV and videotaped the screen while the song was playing very loudly on the stereo. This is probably how the professionals do it.
Quote from: RaviAnyone here ever make a music video? I made one in 7th grade to Tubthumping by Chumbawumba. My friend and literally acted out most of the lyrics ("pissing the night away" would have a guy coming out of the bathroom, for example).
hah, that's pretty impressive tho. considering they say the same 3 lines over and over till u wanna shoot urself in the mouth.
Quote from: PQuote from: RaviAnyone here ever make a music video? I made one in 7th grade to Tubthumping by Chumbawumba. My friend and literally acted out most of the lyrics ("pissing the night away" would have a guy coming out of the bathroom, for example).
hah, that's pretty impressive tho. considering they say the same 3 lines over and over till u wanna shoot urself in the mouth.
LOL, how true. Needless to say, we never voluntarily listened to that song ever again.
Come to think of it, I think the song became popular when we first started shooting and fell of the charts when we were done. It took about 4-6 hours to make IIRC.
Anyone seen the video for the Foo Fighters - My Hero? That's one of the best videos I've ever seen, plus it's one of my favorite songs. I love every part of the video, the timing, the one-take aspect, the censor-blocks, the woman saying "I love you", the fact that the band just keeps playing, it makes me laugh, and I just love every second. Dave Grohl should direct a feature film.
MTV = Music Totally Violated
But some great videos have been made in our time.
White Stripes - Seven nation Army
White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl
Beck - Where It's At
Beck - Devil's Haircut
Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
Cake - Short Skirt, Long Jacket
mtv needs more cunningham videos. definatly my favorite music video director, my god the windowlicker video is great.