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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by jenkins on Today at 01:01:40 AM »
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MASSIVE SPOILERS ó Gawain absolutely wears the belt, which has been enchanted by a witch to protect him. The Green Knight goes to chop off his head, but in that moment Gawain sees a future without honor (my interpretation) where the only thing keeping his head on is that belt. So he decides to take the belt off. The Green Knight touches him affectionately and proudly as if congratulating him for solving a riddle... and then goes to cut off Gawain's head anyway. Cuts to black before we see it, but it's like 90% implied that Gawain does in fact lose his head.


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I appreciate the reply because this will help me appreciate the movie. In what Iím hearing it adheres to the source text but enhances it by saying human fallibility is not forgivable by asking for forgiveness after the matter, but rather donít do it in the first place
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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by Jeremy Blackman on Today at 12:56:35 AM »
@jenkins

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MASSIVE SPOILERS ó Gawain absolutely wears the belt, which has been enchanted by a witch to protect him. The Green Knight goes to chop off his head, but in that moment Gawain sees a future without honor (my interpretation) where the only thing keeping his head on is that belt. So he decides to take the belt off. The Green Knight touches him affectionately and proudly as if congratulating him for solving a riddle and proving his virtue. And then TGK goes to cut off Gawain's head anyway. Cuts to black before we see it, but it's 90% implied that Gawain does in fact lose his head.
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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by jenkins on Today at 12:48:58 AM »
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Even with the rules clearly laid out, he decided to lop off the Green Knight's head, sealing his own fate.


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It's unclear to me what happens but you don't have to explain it. I think in of itself the way Lowery sparks intimate deliberation is a success. In the source text Gawain lops off the head of the Green Chapel Knight and his fate turns out to be that the mistress of the castle was the mastermind behind the testing of the virtue of King Arthur's court, and Gawain's only problem is he wore her garter belt she gave him to protect himself. all that happens is everyone starts wearing garter belts and accepting human fallibility. again, you don't have to split apart the differences here. it sounds like Gawain just dies which is a less interesting theme, and perhaps what Lowery was referencing in his book intro, but I'll have to see the movie to find out. I support this movie
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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by Jeremy Blackman on Today at 12:37:10 AM »
Yes that comparison was mostly bait, also a response to the tweet I posted. I did legitimately think of TLJ though.

Some spoilers to start the spoiler convo. I would not recommending getting spoiled, though. There are delightful turns, and I think the surprise was central to my enjoyment.

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I'm not sure whether this interpretation is off-base or incredibly obvious, but either way, here it is.

I see the ending as a fulfillment of Gawain's declaration of honor. He sees his (potential) life flash before his eyes and realizes that not even maximum glory and success could bring back the honor he'd lose. Abandoning this quest is an irreversible decision. Not even knighthood or kinghood or military conquest could reclaim that honor. Based on his vision, he clearly doesn't expect it to be a happy or fulfilling life, either. (He notably declined to express love for his girlfriend in an earlier scene, perhaps already knowing the decision he'd have to make on his way up the ladder.)

Let's make another totally expected comparison: Romeo & Juliet. Most Shakespeare scholars agree it was probably intended as a comic tragedy about dumb kids, and their idiocy in the climax is supposed to amuse and frustrate you. Gawain is similarly dumb. Even with the rules clearly laid out, he decided to lop off the Green Knight's head, sealing his own fate.

So why not another comparison: It Follows. The consequences of Gawain's poor decision are inescapable. It's coming for him and always will be. (The throne room scene is such a potent poetic illustration of that!) As he says himself, in a way ó one year or a hundred years, it wouldn't matter. He's going to lose his head. So along with "reap what you sow" there's definitely a lot of "death comes for us all."
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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by jenkins on Today at 12:00:29 AM »
jb, following Qatsi with The Last Jedi is pinning the tail on the donkey after being spun. i see the donkey, and this statement is playful. you do just fine by comparing the philosophical shape to AGS, while noting its own narrative dynamics. honestly if ticket purchases correspond to internet interest itíll be a sold out weekend so will you discuss the ending with spoiler tags please, because i want to know the matter being discussed, and losing the sensation of novelty isnít a significant loss from my perspective
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This Year In Film / Re: The Green Knight
« Last post by Jeremy Blackman on Yesterday at 11:31:33 PM »
As expected, this was spectacular. Dev Patel grabs you and doesn't let go, and you don't even realize he's doing it. It's a very subtly magnetic and seductive performance.

This has some of the most beautiful and fascinating landscapes I've ever seen in a movie. In that respect, more than one of the Qatsi films, it reminded me of The Last Jedi. Can't help but wonder how they found all of these locations and whether they're all actually real.

David's overall approach here is very similar to A Ghost Story, especially in terms of aesthetics and pacing and just the sweeping feeling of it. But it's also a lot of fun! It's a conventionally propulsive narrative while still somehow being constantly beguiling.

My God I'm in love with that ending. I'd like to know what other people think. Spoiler discussions to follow, I'm sure.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Untitled PTA Project (2020)
« Last post by Yes on Yesterday at 08:49:12 PM »
MGM just dropped Gucci and Flag Day trailers. This should be soon. Hopefully next week with NYFF announcement!
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Everything twitter
« Last post by kingfan011 on Yesterday at 02:32:56 PM »
A friend of Paul's from way back.  (Makes brief appearances in Boogie Nights and Magnolia if you know where to look.)  A recording studio wiz/musician/tech genius.  A very nice guy.

The setting (Warner Bros lot in Burbank) makes me wonder if Paul is there doing...ADR?...scoring?...mixing? on Soggy.   If not there, he's obviously working on it somewhere.

Your most likely right. Hes probably using their stages for either ADR or sound mixing
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Everything twitter
« Last post by wilberfan on Yesterday at 12:48:27 PM »
A friend of Paul's from way back.  (Makes brief appearances in Boogie Nights and Magnolia if you know where to look.)  A recording studio wiz/musician/tech genius.  A very nice guy.

The setting (Warner Bros lot in Burbank) makes me wonder if Paul is there doing...ADR?...scoring?...mixing? on Soggy.   If not there, he's obviously working on it somewhere.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Everything twitter
« Last post by kingfan011 on Yesterday at 12:11:04 PM »
Who is the guy with PTA?