Great Concert Films

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May 30, 2003, 03:45:17 PM
From the Scorcese Forum:

We briefly debated whether The Last Waltz was "The Greatest Concert Film Ever."

Is it?  What is?

Some others to chew on:

- Gimme Shelter
- Rattle & Hum
- Stop Making Sense
- Madonna's Truth or Dare? (but would that one count?)

Others I'm neglecting?  Get contentious!

SoNowThen

#1
May 30, 2003, 03:51:54 PM
I would say Gimme Shelter, but it's just not a concert film. It stands on its own as something so much more.

So yes, Last Waltz is best of all time. Don't Show The Audience -- Scorsese's greatest idea. I hate when I get a music dvd and have to see audience members screaming. I bought it to see the band play, not look at kids yelling. Way to go, Marty.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

ben

#2
May 30, 2003, 04:08:28 PM
i dunno if this counts...but Incubus: The Morning View Sessions was pretty good.

It was shot with the HD camera that George Lucas used for Star Wars Episode II, so the quality it great.

Dirk

#3
May 30, 2003, 04:21:47 PM
I heard the new Led Zeppelin set is killer.
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#4
May 30, 2003, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: MeshGet contentious!

I think that's going to be the title of the posthumous Hole concert doc, right?  :o

If Truth or Dare counts, so should The Filth and the Fury.
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#5
May 30, 2003, 05:00:56 PM
jeff buckley: live in chicago is fantastic.
i wanna lick 'em.

NEON MERCURY

#6
May 30, 2003, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: DirkI heard the new Led Zeppelin set is killer.

It has to be...it is sold out at my nearest Best Buy-which does not happen often there. :x

anyway not sure if all of these count but  here goes{the wall, rust never sleeps, stop making sense}

MacGuffin

#7
May 30, 2003, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: DirkI heard the new Led Zeppelin set is killer.

Read for yourself here.
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Sleuth

#8
May 30, 2003, 07:12:37 PM
I just got it today, but I'm not going to watch until tomorrow.  Right now I'm listening to the 3CD set that also came out the same day
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SoNowThen

#9
May 30, 2003, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: tremoloslothI just got it today, but I'm not going to watch until tomorrow.  Right now I'm listening to the 3CD set that also came out the same day

Can you let me know if they're "must buys" right away? I had my hands on both cd and dvd sets today, but remembered I was poor. I have everything Zep's ever put out (inc. Song Remains The Same and BBC sessions), as well as a few bootlegs. Do I need this new live set??
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Sleuth

#10
May 30, 2003, 07:21:59 PM
I'm only on track 7 of disc 1 (Stairway...a song I'm so fucking burned out on, but this version makes me like it all over again)

I would say definitely buy it, you might as well since you're so big on LZ.  I had never heard any bootlegs before, so I don't know it this will be anything new for you.  My one piece of advice is to get this at Best Buy this week (the DVD set and CD set cost less than $40 together)
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SoNowThen

#11
May 30, 2003, 07:26:09 PM
Are you in Canada or the US? 'cause I went to A&B Sound today, and they had each for $28 canadian. But we just got a Best Buy here, so maybe I'll check it out.

BTW, if you're a Zep fan you gotta get the Forum concert where Keith Moon guest-stars. Classic.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Sleuth

#12
May 30, 2003, 07:27:58 PM
I'm in US

Keith Moon guest starring?  That sounds awesome

there are some Forum songs on the CD set, I wonder...
I like to hug dogs

Sleuth

#13
May 30, 2003, 10:44:20 PM
Okay, I finished the CD set, and I'm about an hour into the DVDs...you NEED to get these to survive get them now
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Keener

#14
June 01, 2003, 03:25:02 PM
I think we can all agree The Return of Spinal Tap is the worst.
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