PTA have tackled worlds that are not widely explored in cinema; say oil, scientology or dressmaking. What do you think he is gonna go for next and better... what would you like him to do?
Not exactly subjects but...
That early days of television broadcasting story he was thinking of doing still sounds like a great idea to me.
Adapting 20th century American novelists remains a goldmine for him. I know he has a Vonnegut movie in him.
I want him to do something really warm and delicate and earthy like McCabe and Mrs Miller. Maybe something really natural and Appalachian in style.
Some sort of suffocating, heady horror/love/thriller movie would be great. Especially with how he subscribes to the 'shooting love scenes like murder scenes and murder scenes like love scenes' idea. A more extreme variation on his most recent work, I suppose.
He's also long overdue for another contemporary era movie.
I watched his last contemporary movie a few months ago and it looked as old as it was—or I realized for the first time how old it was while watching it. He said that technology made drama more difficult. I see what he means. But he might worry too much about that. And Eighth Grade showed that there's a cinematic way to film screens.
Kinda weird that he still didn't go for some sunset boulevard type of hollywood piece. Possibly a faulkner-esque(??) family drama? The gay underworld before the seventies would be priceless.
Pretty bitter he didn't do Vineland instead of IV.
I love IV, but I don't want him to adapt novels anymore. I don't count TWBB, it's way more PTA than IV which is more Pynchon than PTA.
Quote from: Vicko99 on April 08, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
Pretty bitter he didn't do Vineland instead of IV.
Would love to see him adapt Vineland as an unofficial sequel to IV. There are a ton of similarities.
Quote from: eward on April 08, 2019, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: Vicko99 on April 08, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
Pretty bitter he didn't do Vineland instead of IV.
Would love to see him adapt Vineland as an unofficial sequel to IV. There are a ton of similarities.
I would love that too. If he could get permission to use the IV character names to replace the Vineland names and keep the same actors. That would be awesome. Also I think Vineland kind of covered the death of the hippie dream better than IV as it was well and truly dead by then.
I've been reading a book lately about the mysterious death of Thelma Todd. I don't know whether a movie directly about it would be achievable or in the best taste necessarily, but that age of Golden Age Hollywood (and indirectly California) struck me as an amazing avenue for PTA in the future. There are so many threads there, you could go in all sorts of directions.
next one is set in the present. you heard it here first.
Quote from: martinthewarrior on April 17, 2019, 05:56:30 PM
next one is set in the present. you heard it here first.
Wishful thinking or inside scoop? Is it the Tiffany Hadish movie?
scoop. I know the male lead (as of now), but haven't heard anything about Hadish.
Quote from: martinthewarrior on April 20, 2019, 04:20:43 PM
scoop. I know the male lead (as of now), but haven't heard anything about Hadish.
Is it Robert Pattinson?
I don't know your post history here, so I don't know how credible you are. At the same time I don't see why anyone would be trolling about this.
A film set in the present makes me excited, but a female lead (like Hadish) made me curious as well. Kind of disappointing that we don't get that next.
It is not Robert Pattinson, but it will make a lot of sense when it's made public. That said, stuff changes all the time so who knows. This could very well be the Hadish project, but the current lead makes me dubious.
YES.
Quote from: martinthewarrior on April 20, 2019, 05:08:50 PM
It is not Robert Pattinson, but it will make a lot of sense when it's made public. That said, stuff changes all the time so who knows. This could very well be the Hadish project, but the current lead makes me dubious.
To continue on topic... What world (jazz, television, etc.) is he tackling in this one?
All I know is it's funny but a drama (guess all his kinda fall under this description), the male lead, and when it starts shooting.
Quote from: martinthewarrior on April 20, 2019, 09:46:58 PM
...and when it starts shooting.
Next 3 months? Six months? Is there a time-frame you can safely share?
Leading man bets:
Adam Sandler reteam
OR
Robert Downey Jr finally
OR
Robert DeNiro FINNNAAAAAAAAALLLLLYYYYYY
Can you tell us if the male lead worked with Paul before? Thank you.
Long-Held Dream Collab: Sean Penn
Long-Held Dream Reunion: Philip Baker Hall
Happy To See You Again and Please Make Everything Together From Now On: Joaquin!
Dream/Never Gonna Happen Collab: Vincent Gallo
This new script being contemporary, think it's gonna have anything to do with Trump? He's soaked our era so, it seems perhaps inevitable, but god I hope not.
There's 0% chance it's about Trump.
I don't have any insider knowledge, but given that he very recently tweeted about how he'd been revisiting The Master and thought it was brilliant, suggesting perhaps that he's been doing his PTA research before embarking on a new project, plus the fact that he hasn't made a movie in a while and might be planning a comeback role, plus the additional fact that he's a good actor I can see PTA wanting to work with, my guess for the male lead is Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
Quote from: Drenk on April 21, 2019, 08:03:29 AM
There's 0% chance it's about Trump.
Not about, per se, but will it be set in our current Trumpian era and maintain an awareness of his ubiquitous presence, or simply take place in this time in an alternate, blessed, non-Trump universe? It's probably irrelevant, but my mind wanders.
Quote from: eward on April 21, 2019, 09:22:26 AM
Quote from: Drenk on April 21, 2019, 08:03:29 AM
There's 0% chance it's about Trump.
Not about, per se, but will it be set in our current Trumpian era and maintain an awareness of his ubiquitous presence, or simply take place in this time in an alternate, blessed, non-Trump universe? It's probably irrelevant, but my mind wanders.
His most political movie is Inherent Vice, and it's more Pynchon than PTA. But I think his new movie will be a revision of one of his old scripts. If it's the case, it probably won't be relevant to the times we live in. But he'll have to acknowledge technology.
Other suggestions: Jeremy Renner/James Franco, since they were both considered for Freddie.
Looking through imdb... Joaquin, Gosling and Fassbender schedule is wide open.
Actor has not worked with him before. One particularly salient guess in this thread.
Preeeeeeetty sure Renner won't find his way into a PTA at this point.
I hope it's Fassbender even if I'm not crazy about him; all the others are not really good...
Quote from: Drenk on April 21, 2019, 12:19:01 PM
I hope it's Fassbender even if I'm not crazy about him; all the others are not really good...
(Except Sean Penn)
By saying "it will make a lot of sense", my mind goes immediately to RDJ (they are trying to work together for years), though he seems to be occupied with the production of Sherlock Holmes 3 (not sure about the schedule, tbh). From the remaining guys that were mentioned (and considering that the lead has not worked with PTA before) i can't think of a better choice than Fass, that would be a collaboration for the ages :). Don't have any particular problem with Gosling, would be curious to see how he could fit into the PTA cinematic universe :ponder:. Gordon-Levitt is another interesting case, which looks like the casting of Adam Sandler back in the PDL days (though he's a FAR better actor than Sandler, no discussion about that).
It is not Fassbender..
I reckon my Joseph Gordon-Levitt guess was on the money then...
RDJ is the only one that would make sense.
Still holding fast and foolish to Penn considering he was a long-standing fixture in both the PDL and Inherent Vice rumormills. Also just cuz I want it.
Possibilites:
DeNiro (he mentioned in an interview about a year ago that he had met with PTA)
Penn
Downey Jr.
Gordon-Levitt
Franco (martinthewarrior ruled out Renner but didn't mention Franco. Hmmmmmm)
Gosling
Add Gosling as a possibility.
What about Adam Driver?
I could get down with a PTA/Driver collab.
Me too.
I think he would be perfect in a PTA-film.
JGL would be my pick. He's criminally underrated and has seemed on the precipice of doing something really great - and being acknowledged for it - a few times over the past decade (?) but it's never quite fallen into place. A collab with PTA would be impossible to ignore and could launch him into the tier of recognition he deserves.
That said, RDJ would undoubtedly be fun, but not sure quite how "serious" it'd be.
So we might find out within the next month, huh?
JGL wouldnt be a so strange pick, he's done it again in the past by making a movie with Sandler, when everyone was expecting his next big step and he chose instead to take a break from groundbreaking visions. The real deal, imo, is how commercial the name of the protagonist will be, given that the last PTA movies were really struggling at the box-office.
Another important issue is the actual type of movie. Will it be an one-character study with one main lead surrounded by minor characters, or an ensemble cast movie like Magnolia and IV? Could it be a lighter and family-friendlier entry in his filmography (so a name like JGL wouldnt really be a problem) or another serious and ambitious beast that will have difficulties of finding an audience (in that case, i suppose a big star like RDJ is required)?
Quote from: Pynchonikos1994 on April 22, 2019, 10:57:22 AM
Will it be an one-character study with one main lead surrounded by minor characters, or an ensemble cast movie like Magnolia and IV?
Unfortunately, I think one of the issuez people take with IV is that it was more of the former and they had expected the latter.
Quote from: WorldForgot on April 22, 2019, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Pynchonikos1994 on April 22, 2019, 10:57:22 AM
Will it be an one-character study with one main lead surrounded by minor characters, or an ensemble cast movie like Magnolia and IV?
Unfortunately, I think one of the issuez people take with IV is that it was more of the former and they had expected the latter.
You're right, the way I put it seems false, by ensemble cast meaning a respectable number of very recognisable actors in small supporting roles (while in Magnolia the word "ensemble" has to do directly with the story and the characters, not just with the stars) but anyway IV would hardly be called a single character study. Perhaps a country study? It's a monster by itself, no easy categorisation.
Do we know for sure the lead has been mentioned here already?
Otherwise my guess would be Timothee Chalamet since they both called each other out not too long ago.
Also people keep talking about JGL in the same breath as Sandler like it would be a similar move to that collaboration on PDL. I don't think of JGL that way at all. He was great in Manic, Mysterious Skin, Looper, Inception and a bunch of other things. I think he's a talent and a collaboration with PTA would bring out the best in him.
Also I may be the only one who is bummed that this will be set in present day. I love his period work and detail so much in The Master, TWBB, and PT.
Anyone else kinda hopin for a return to Scope?
i don't care who's in it, what it's about, what aspect ratio, etc. just happy he's going to have another movie out by 2020 (if this rumor is true). hands down my favorite working director. on that note, i have not revisited one of his movies in easily over a year.
Quote from: eward on April 22, 2019, 04:52:08 PM
Anyone else kinda hopin for a return to Scope?
I would love a return to scope.
The only thing that makes me a bit suspicious about this rumor is only because I thought I heard PTA's LP Daniel Lupi is on West Side Story which doesn't shoot til later in the year.
That's true! Many of my colleagues from The Joker are working on WSS and I'm pretty sure they are very close to shooting if they haven't started already.
PTA said thst the California drought was scary to him and then in an unrelated interview said he waa working on something that was set more in wide spaces. So maybe water infrastructure and rainfall locations would be the backdrop of his next picture?
THere Will be Blood......with water instead of oil.
Man, see how this place lights up with even the slightest murmurings of PTA news? :yabbse-smiley:
Quote from: Tdog on April 23, 2019, 06:32:20 AM
PTA said thst the California drought was scary to him and then in an unrelated interview said he waa working on something that was set more in wide spaces.
I' m pretty sure I recall him saying in an interview for PT last year that the whole shooting process in England made him feel homesick, and that we should probably expect him to return back to California for his next film. But he could very well change his mind, afterall he may be working on more than one screenplay.
Quote from: Tdog on April 23, 2019, 06:32:20 AM
PTA said thst the California drought was scary to him and then in an unrelated interview said he waa working on something that was set more in wide spaces. So maybe water infrastructure and rainfall locations would be the backdrop of his next picture?
THere Will be Blood......with water instead of oil.
This really appeals to me. There's no way he would repeat himself, so this new thing would be something entirely new and different, but there's so much potential with what he could do with this. And talk about a topic that would resonate with Academy voters. Of course, PTA's not going to produce a typical "Oscars issue" film, but it could just be the perfect storm of elements which could finally see him with a chance of getting the awards recognition that's evaded him so far.
Although, on the other hand, it could be the perfect opportunity for him to reteam with Sandler and just call it Water Boy 2.
He should remake The Master with Sandler as Freddie and Reilly as Lancaster Dodd.
Quote from: eward on April 23, 2019, 08:36:58 AM
He should remake The Master with Sandler as Freddie and Reilly as Lancaster Dodd.
Adam Scott as John Moore
And Will Ferrell as Peggy!
Remember when Sean Penn was supposed to be in Inherent Vice? (Neither did I.) Well, it's probably gonna be Sean Penn for the new one. Eward wins.
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sean-penn-might-do-pynchon-for-paul-thomas-anderson/?ex_cid=grantland33
EDIT: Yep, missed the post where eward said exactly the same thing.
Quote from: Drenk on April 24, 2019, 10:30:02 AM
Remember when Sean Penn was supposed to be in Inherent Vice? (Neither did I.) Well, it's probably gonna be Sean Penn for the new one. Eward wins.
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/sean-penn-might-do-pynchon-for-paul-thomas-anderson/?ex_cid=grantland33
EDIT: Yep, missed the post where eward said exactly the same thing.
Eh am I missing something? What is pointing to Penn over anyone else?
The name has probably been mentioned in this thread, we're just guessing since Penn almost worked with PTA twice.
Quote from: Drenk on April 24, 2019, 11:19:58 AM
The name has probably been mentioned in this thread, we're just guessing since Penn almost worked with PTA twice.
Ok. I think it's Franco.
Sean Penn nowadays, only for a supporting role. Self destructive and really badly aged. The times he was great have passed. Unless there is a very special story that would take full advantage of his persona, letting him now to carry a PTA movie upon his shoulders, is pure madness. And he was never considered to play the lead role in any of his films, anywise.
Quote from: Pynchonikos1994 on April 24, 2019, 11:27:48 AM
Sean Penn nowadays, only for a supporting role. Self destructive and really badly aged. The times he was great have passed. Unless there was a very special story that would take full advantage of his persona, letting him now to carry a PTA movie upon his shoulders, is pure madness. And he was never considered to play the lead role in any of his films, anywise.
I never considered him far gone. He seems a bit prickly in interviews but I'm sure can still put in a great performance. He kinda seems like he's just been making movies for the pay cheque that last while though, not that his performances were bad necessarily, just that he didn't give a shit about movie. He would be good as a burnt out surfer or something.
And as stated elsewhere PTA only ever offered him supporting roles, I figured that's why he always turned them down.
So reports coming in now that Leo has turned down PTA to work with GDL, so this seems pretty legit.
Quote from: jviness02 on April 24, 2019, 12:49:25 PM
So reports coming in now that Leo has turned down PTA to work with GDL, so this seems pretty legit.
Turned down might be the wrong way to phrase it. "Committed to something else first" might be more accurate.
I could see Gosling. Same persona as Leo (assuming this is the one he turned down). Makes more sense than JGL tbh. Not buying Franco
If it's "unexpected", Jim Carrey/Will Ferrell. Also fits the funny but drama description
Quote from: eward on April 23, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Man, see how this place lights up with even the slightest murmurings of PTA news? :yabbse-smiley:
It's lit up so brightly we've need two separate threads to hold it all, apparently.
I'd like to see Carrey have a legit comeback and would be down with him as a male lead in a PTA. Think he'd pair nicely with TH as the main/female lead.
That'd be cool. Wasn't he considered for Rudy Blatnoyd in IV? Or was that fan speculation....
Quote from: eward on April 25, 2019, 09:06:46 AM
That'd be cool. Wasn't he considered for Rudy Blatnoyd in IV? Or was that fan speculation....
I think the speculation was bigfoot because he walked out on a chatshow wearing prop bigfeet and PTA had mentioned liking him and working with him. PTA had also mentioned really liking Michael Shannon and Charlize Theron in the same interview.
Jim Carrey is living his best life.
"Every character...has a Genesis." FUCK. YOU.
Jim Carrey looks stoned.
I rather watch this than the Pokemon movie.
i'd rather put my head through plated glass than watch either
Going back to the original topic for a bit, last year I was reading a lot about art instructor lineages in America. Surprisingly interesting stuff. And all the while I was reading and researching, I couldn't help but see it through PTA's lens. There were war veterans, Hollywood hopefuls, one or two nasty dudes etc. People who have influenced the entire entertainment industry and contributed to the war-time propaganda effort with their work/methods. Sounds weird but I think there's great potential for a movie covering 20th century American art instruction or the lives of the people behind it.
It sounds like a PTA bingo. What were their methods exactly?
There were different schools. I'm going to make some generalisations here, for example, Frank Reilly utilised an abstraction diagram method, George Bridgman (a teacher of Reilly who studied at Ecole des Beaux-Arts), focused on anatomy derived from boxes and there was this overall shift from the old atelier sight-size to a more structural form of design (which has been used prior to 20th century). Many modern concept artists and instructors seem to come from ArtCenter in California- hundreds of them taught by a dude named Harry Carmean. Most of the art instruction you see on youtube or wherever these days seem to derive from these guys- who built upon hundreds of years of teaching. So I guess they're simply relatively recent names in a long history of art pedagogy.
To reinforce how appropriate some art related movie would be, I'll share this. From what I've read, he was a real life PTA character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYft6XTSyI
Who'd PTA get to play that guy? Josh Brolin? Michael Shannon?