Am i the only one who is totally stunned by this great series?
It's the best drama-series ever! There's actually nothing bad to say about it!
I've been hooked on it for a while. Definetly the best drama series on TV.
great show -- quickly going down hill.
Quote from: cowboykurtisgreat show -- quickly going down hill.
OK, I'm watching season 1 and I'm really obsessed with it!
Nah, it's just evolving. For it to go down hill it would stick to the same formula it used for the last two seasons. I can see how some don't like Season 3 (and the first few episodes threw me off as well) but it's really picking up now. It's all coming together and I can see why the change was necessary to throw the show in a totally different, totally great new direction.
And if you don't think this show has great dialogue, check out Arthur's line from last night's episode: "It was hand widdled by my Uncle Gueter who later died of Polio."
ill take your word for it. im not a religious follower of the show. i just noticed a difference in quality from previous seasons. the only one i saw this year was some sort of gay paintball outing -- it was pretty awful. the production value seems to have gone down as well.
Quote from: cowboykurtisim not a religious follower of the show.
Wow, I've never really thought of it that way. But I guess a lot of people do.
This season is better than last season, but still no where near as good as the first.
The problem I have with this season was that I feel like they fished us in with the last episode of last season and then tried to convince us that this season may not actually even be happening.
Also, it's a lot more slow moving. Not necessarily in pace, but less is happening, so it happens over more episodes.
i dont mind the slow pacing, i think this season is the best yet. last season was great, the only problem was that it was a bit too episodic. i.e. keith's sister hits a dude with a car, goes to prison. this season though, it's taking its time, its building, the characters are richer than theyve ever been. theyre comfortable without becoming lazy. i give the show enormous props for not sticking with the same formula every season. i think, especially this year, they are pushing tv to a whole new level of drama. but i can see how people who arent 'religious' over the show would be turned off by it. you really have to be in to the characters for it to work. its a very vouyeristic experience, living with these people. ive watched since the first episode, so im really invested, and really into these people. at times the show mirrors my own life. (in two days im going to have pieces up at an art show where i may have to confront two very important people from my past) I dont know, I just fucking love it. best show on tv, best show ever.
Lauren Ambrose: hot ffffffffffffffffffffff action to the max.
i am watching this season and it is completely boring!!! it just moving too slow and i can't stand it. it's sooooooooooooooooooo fucking slooooow. it's like they are state employees getting paid by the hour. wait, fuck that's it! the writers are just writing a slow moving story so that they can get more shows in and make more money. kinda smart in a hourly employee way.
I've only missed one episode of this show since it started a few seasons ago, so I'm a devout follower.
I would say that it certainly isn't as great as the first season was. The dialogue and production value have also slipped - I would agree. But nonetheless, it's still one of the best hours on television. Right up there with the Sopranos (who's season 4 was about as disappointing as this season's SFU).
I'm just anxious for America Undercover Sundays to come back. They need to get rid of this "The Wire" shit. That show sucks balls.
i rented disc 1 with the full intention of getting the rest. however i didn't/couldn't make it past the first episode. i even tried watching the first episode on two different occassions and it still didn't pique my interest.
Quote from: dufresnei rented disc 1 with the full intention of getting the rest. however i didn't/couldn't make it past the first episode. i even tried watching the first episode on two different occassions and it still didn't pique my interest.
Are we watching the same series?? Is disc1 the first season?
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Are we watching the same series?? Is disc1 the first season?
yeah. i don't have HBO, so i've been catching up on the Sopranos, Band of Brothers, and i thought i should check out Six Feet since it's been highly recommended by a lot of friends. i started out with disc 1 of season 1.
Looks like Jeremy Sisto (Billy) is starring in Wrong Turn this summer. Just saw a TV ad. Looks like a sort of Blair Witch-y woods-horror thing. It's probably terrible.
On the other hand, Rachel Griffiths (Brenda, of course) stars with Guy Pearce in The Hard Word, which looks interesting, if only for the actors (it appears to be yet another sort of gangster-heist thing, which I could do without, but I'll still go).
Quote from: godardianIt's probably terrible.
What makes you say that?
Some of us liked Blair Witch. Some of us have open minds. Some us will see it for:
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The TV ad looked terrible, that's all.
You'd be better off renting Wild Things again for the cheesecake, wouldn't you?
I never watched six feet under since the first two or three episodes and then stopped. i just started again, 2 weeks ago, and it's way too awesome. i'm so wrapped up in everything and can't wait for the season finale in 2 weeks. now i have to go out and get the dvd's from the first season. what season are we in now, 2nd or third?
It's the third.
I got hooked by the DVDs and then just started right in with the third season. I haven't seen a single episode of the second. I wish I had, but it doesn't make the show impossible to follow by any means.
As has been stated before, the second season was the least impressive of the three.
So, what's everyone think? Who's gonna die here? I'm thinking a suicide.
I'm thinking a couple of deaths for the finale:
Lisa threw herself into the ocean. Her body is found in the finale.
Billy commits suicide because he realizes his Luke/Leia fantasy will never be fulfilled and it's the only way he can mean something to Brenda.
Russell decides to show just how much he loves Claire by hanging himself from meat hooks in her room and splitting open his abdomen (uniquely and artistic-like).
Arthur, after finding out Ruth is marrying, throws away his life-is-precious philosophy in lieu of an axe and starts to destroy the house. Rico, doing the much needed work on Lisa and also avoiding his sister-in-law after getting so mad he hits her for saying she's going to make Vanessa leave him, is the only one in the house and suffers Arthur's wrath. Arthur takes a few swings at Rico but misses, before Rico plunges the embolming needle into Arthur in self-defense.
All funerals take place on the same day. End season finale.
I could see a lot of those things actually happening (not all at once of couse and not as extreme).
I actually think it's possible they'll never reveal what happened to Lisa because that's one of those things that happens in life. It'll end up driving Nate mad.
I could see Russell killing himself... he's just one of those kids...
In the ad for the finale, we hear Claire say "He's dead?"... though that may be a dream about her aborted kid.
I won't speculate about Lisa, 'cos RK may be completely right that they'll leave it unresolved. Lila Taylor being only ever billed as a "guest star" clues us in that she's probably off the show. I hate that, that you can tell from the credits that something's going to happen.
I don't think Claire is going to freak out because of the abortion. I think someone may actually be dead, most likely Russell. Or maybe Russell kills Olivier. Outside possibility for suicide: Nate. And god, I mean he has every right and reason to be, but he's by far the last pleasant character on the show right now.
Brenda has always been my favorite character, and last night's episode totally confirmed that. Obviously, she's fucked up, but she just seems to want to be healthy and happy more than anyone else on the show, and she wants to try to help other people be that way, too. I'm way oversimplifying, I know- plus I missed the whole second season, where she apparently screwed Nate over somehow?- but she seems to be the coolest, kindest, and least judgmental. For now, anyways.
Much comedy and some heartbreak will probably ensue from Ruth's "engagement." Arthur may realize what he's missing and finally make a play.
Obviously, Keith will either try harder or be out of David's life. That's happened before, though, and then they got back together, so... who knows? All I know is, this relationship stuff is a helluva lot more interesting than all that coming-out stuff from the first season. I gasped like a housewife watching The Young and the Restless when David cheated.
Quote from: godardianI won't speculate about Lisa, 'cos RK may be completely right that they'll leave it unresolved. Lila Taylor being only ever billed as a "guest star" clues us in that she's probably off the show. I hate that, that you can tell from the credits that something's going to happen.
They've had her billed as a guest star the whole season, when it seemed that she was pretty much a bigger character than others.
QuoteI don't think Claire is going to freak out because of the abortion. I think someone may actually be dead, most likely Russell. Or maybe Russell kills Olivier. Outside possibility for suicide: Nate. And god, I mean he has every right and reason to be, but he's by far the last pleasant character on the show right now.
I love how they shifted his dynamic from the end of the second season, where he was the character people could probably sympathize and care the most for, to a very apathetic guy who's probably still fucked up from his EVM surgery. I felt that after he underwent the surgery, part of him disappeared forever. I think there needs to be some kind of retribution that can only come from his father Nathaniel, who I've missed this season. He's a great character.
QuoteBrenda has always been my favorite character, and last night's episode totally confirmed that. Obviously, she's fucked up, but she just seems to want to be healthy and happy more than anyone else on the show, and she wants to try to help other people be that way, too. I'm way oversimplifying, I know- plus I missed the whole second season, where she apparently screwed Nate over somehow?- but she seems to be the coolest, kindest, and least judgmental. For now, anyways.
Yeah, the second season Brenda became very detestable. I wanted her gone by the end of it, and be careful what you wish for, because it'll come true. After five episodes of her absence, it became clear in the storyline that she made things interesting and gave life to the series.
QuoteMuch comedy and some heartbreak will probably ensue from Ruth's "engagement." Arthur may realize what he's missing and finally make a play.
For some reason I can see Arthur just going mad and attempt to kill Cromwell's character. There's this dark nature in him that I'm waiting to see come out and manifest on the whole family. Like 'the kid who was ignored or overlooked until it was too late' type of thing.
I can see Arthur getting caught being a Necro... you know, Rico comes downstairs (he forgot something, it's late) and there's Arthur, getting it on with Mrs. Krigbong.
*shudder*
i say six feet under's the best tv show ive ever seen, it does have some soap opera tendencies, but i think its humor and ideas make up for anything b4 it becomes lame or bad, it just rules. alan ball is a genius, the only thing better than this show is american beauty.
The Arthur necro idea had never occurred to me, but it certainly has merit.
I think Russel is going to kill himself, and I think Lisa is just going to remain a mystery. They don't always find missing people, and I think they're going to toy with us - at least until next season. I don't think there'll be any resolution to the Lisa issue this season. Maybe not even next year. I think they're just going to leave that open ended, and leave Nate with the pain and guilt of cheating on her with other women since he doesn't really know if she's dead or not. It's already happened once with the hot funeral babe.
Rico and his wife will be just fine. I anticipate no drama there.
And I hope, oh how I hope, that David dumps Keith for good and hooks up with his gay chorus buddy for at least awhile. David is a good guy and deserves a little happiness for awhile.
That's HAPpiness... HAP...piness...
I love Six Feet Under so much! It's the best show I've ever seen. The first season was great, the second season wasn't as good but still captivating, especially with episodes like "Driving Mr. Mossback", but the third season is just phenomenal. The characters have so much depth now, and everything is incredibly subtle and acurate. I love it! Last week's episode was one of my favorite of the whole series... it was amazing to watch Claire go through with her abortion like they showed it... I've never seen a show that depicted it like that. Usually she will go into the clinic and her impregnator will burst through the door and sweep her off her feet, and everyone lives happily ever after now that the man has done the right thing... God the emotions on this show are just so honest... i love the way they depicted Nate's reaction to Lisa being missing, just being so edgy and shaking like that...
anyway I think Lisa is alive, but she's decided to leave Nate... in the commercial for next week Claire saw her or something, although it could have been a fantasy.
Lisa dead... I knew that "guest star" thing couldn't go on forever. I thought maybe knowing for sure would bring Nate some closure, at least. Apparently not.
Speaking of guest stars, I always find it insipid when people go on about celebrities they think are gorgeous, but Justin Theroux.... wow. He and Rachel Griffiths definitely make, to my mind, what PTA would call a "handsome couple." I hate to say it, but at this point, I'd like to see Nate get her platonic sympathy and tending to, and this Justin Theroux neighbor get the romantic attentions. A personal bias. I'm sure it'll be Nate. They're meant to be, in the show's hermetic world.
I loved what they did with Claire's baby. Maybe a little New-Agey, but it was good to acknowledge abortion's not an easy thing that people who have them take lightly (as the pro-lifers often have it) without having it be the end of the world for her.
David and Keith. Another Nate and Brenda. I guess these two relationships are supposed to be the "cliffhangers," but I feel they'll both be/remain couples, just moving into ever-more-complicated territory. David should probably know that if Keith is willing to (apparently) understand a painful infidelity, he's serious about making it work.
And Rico... Oh, Rico. I guess we'll have to wonder about his marriage 'til next season.
Ever since I got into this program, I feel I know what daytime-soap fans feel like, except at night-time.
I would have jumped at anyone who said SFU resembled a soap opera, but in the third season I can only agree. There have been some things in it which are just ridiculous for the sake of creating complexity, like Billy's "love" for Brenda. Even Claire's pregnancy seemed to be a device for the "trade-off" during this finale when Claire encounters Lisa. The first two seasons were of a much higher quality, IMO. This 3rd season has, overall, been a letdown.
Quote from: SalI would have jumped at anyone who said SFU resembled a soap opera, but in the third season I can only agree. There have been some things in it which are just ridiculous for the sake of creating complexity, like Billy's "love" for Brenda. Even Claire's pregnancy seemed to be a device for the "trade-off" during this finale when Claire encounters Lisa. The first two seasons were of a much higher quality, IMO. This 3rd season has, overall, been a letdown.
I say Bah! to all that. The whole Brenda/Billy thing has
always been there just waiting to come forward. Was anyone actually surprised when it did? From the time Nate saw "Nathaniel" tatooed on Brenda's back, it was inevitable. And the way they handled Claire's pregnancy was excellent. Even if it was a device, they paid enough attention to it to make it succeed.
The third season wasn't afraid to slow down and really hammer in the idiosyncracies of the characters. Deep psyche stuff. That doesn't make it a soap opera, just a switch in gears--an evolution of the show.
I really just meant my addiction and need to know what happens to these characters when I said that soap-opera thing... wasn't really commenting on the show's quality, which I certainly think is consistent enough.
QuoteI say Bah! to all that. The whole Brenda/Billy thing has always been there just waiting to come forward. Was anyone actually surprised when it did? From the time Nate saw "Nathaniel" tatooed on Brenda's back, it was inevitable.
It should have stayed subdued though. I was more surprised at the fact they actually made it explicit. When it was implied there was more complexity between them which made their interactions unique and interesting to watch.
QuoteThe third season wasn't afraid to slow down and really hammer in the idiosyncracies of the characters. Deep psyche stuff. That doesn't make it a soap opera, just a switch in gears--an evolution of the show.
I'll agree with that to a degree. I do think this season has been more about the slow process of evolving these characters, to a largely successful degree, but I can't overlook some of the plot points that detracted from this season. They kind of stick out like sore thumbs in otherwise great writing.
Well, I have no doubt that this season was better than the second (though the first will probably always be the best one).
So... I was wrong about Lisa.
I could still be right about Arthur. There's something wrong with that kid.
The only thing I really noticed about this episdode that actively bothered me (I'm past it being slightly soap opera-ish, it's a great show... everyone has at least one kind of show like this)... that is the fact that Maiya is way too fucking old... I can accept them showing Claire's baby old enough to be strapped into a car seat, when it should be a fetus because that was a dream. I can even accept them having a baby that's older than what it's playing just because that's the way it usually is, but they had that scene where she was running around on the floor. This kid is supposed to be just a few months old.
anyway... I don't know why that bothered me so much.
I really liked seeing the incarnations of the father being so extremely contrasted between the characters' different interpretations of how he would be.
Actually Maya is supposed to be 13 months old... there were 7 months between season 2 and 3 don't forget... speaking of that, season 4 doesn't even start until June 2004, so it should be interesting to see where the story picks up.
Yes, Justin Theroux and Rachel Griffiths definitely should be a couple. I hope he continues on in the series... Nate is just bad for Brenda, especially now. But yeah, the season finale was great...
Quote from: Jake_82... speaking of that, season 4 doesn't even start until June 2004quote]
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Excuse me while I go cancel my subscription to HBO.
Mena Suvari to Guest Star in Six Feet Under
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Four years after she starred in American Beauty, Mena Suvari is reteaming with the film's Oscar-winning writer Alan Ball, signing to do a six-episode arc on his acclaimed HBO series Six Feet Under. On the quirky funeral-home drama, Suvari will play a student attending the same art school as Claire Fisher (Lauren Ambrose).
"She's very independent, very self-motivated, very edgy and in a lot of ways much more grown-up than she should be considering how young she is," Ball said of the character. "She and Claire influence each other both artistically and personally."
Suvari next stars opposite Colin Firth in the independent Trauma, set to premiere next month at the Sundance Film Festival.
Suvari, that's fine... can't believe it's all the way 'til freakin' June...
but my most burning question: What about Justin Theroux????
Quote from: MacGuffin"She and Claire influence each other both artistically and personally."
they'll get it on for sure, that'll be nice.
One can certainly hope
i just got hbo on demand and they have six feet under episodes from season three only. where is season 2? are they making a dvd set like they did for season 1? i need to catch up.
Quote from: taz.i just got hbo on demand and they have six feet under episodes from season three only. where is season 2? are they making a dvd set like they did for season 1? i need to catch up.
God, I hope so. I missed season 2, also. We devoured the season 1 DVD set at my house, lemme tell ya.
Quote from: godardianQuote from: taz.i just got hbo on demand and they have six feet under episodes from season three only. where is season 2? are they making a dvd set like they did for season 1? i need to catch up.
God, I hope so. I missed season 2, also. We devoured the season 1 DVD set at my house, lemme tell ya.
my family too. we watched the first three discs in two days when we were moving my sister into her apartment and then got sick of it and didn't watch the fourth disc until 4 months later (so i just finished the first season two weeks ago, actually. that's why i'm so hot on six feet under now).
HBO sure is slackin' on these DVD, aren't they? Or is it just me? I want my season 2!
The Season 2 dvd was set to be released this holiday season, but then HBO were asses and decided they didn't want the competition from themselves since they were releasing a Sopranos season at the same time, so they're putting it off until some time next year (which doesn't make sense, beause the people who get up to season 2 when they release it won't have seen season 3 before season 4 comes on tv... argh)
SFU is an amazing show, but I just don't think it stands up to repeated viewings. I could hardly sit through it a 2nd time. Never a third.
In fact, I think the only thing that HBO has that might stand up to repeated viewings would be some of their comedies. Larry Sanders was genius. Curb Your Enthusiasm is pretty great, too.
And god, I hope they cancelled that crap "Mind of a Married Man"...
Oops... This should go in the HBO thread. Sorry to wander off like that.
oh my god...where has this thread been hiding?!?!?! This is what i get for not looking in any other threads other than "Idle Chatter." I love this show!!! It's my favorite show on television...the fact that I have to wait a year to watch new episodes kills me...
My favorite season was Season 2, but Season one was classic...
Season 3 was also great, I can also see why many hate that season, it was more difficult to watch, but my god was it great...
I CANT WAIT for the season 2 DVD's to come out already!!!!
My favorite episode had to be The Christmas Episode of Season 2. With the biker funeral. IT was one of hte only episodes that ended on a happy note. Regaurdless, the show is great and I cant wait for it to keep spitting out newer and greater episodes.
the best one is from season 3 when claire confronts olivier for doing russel in the butt.
http://www.filmjerk.com/nuke/article689.html <- brief information on the new season
I remember when Six Feet Under premiered behind like the second or third season of Sopranos. I started watching it b/c it came on directly afterwards. Within 3 weeks it became my favorite an din my opinion is a better show than Sopranos. I do think it stands up to repeated viewings, it's just an amzingly beautifully done show about human relationships. Season 3 started off on a bad foot with me: guest stars, that annoying actress who plays Nate's wife, typical art school nonsense for Claire, but then it took all those things that started out as cliche and broke them. It's almost like Alan Ball was saying here are these conventional things we are going to add to the show and put the characters through and you think you know whats going to happen but just like real life these preconcieved notions you have are going to explode when reality sets in. The thrid season totally turned on a dime and has the show poised for an amazing new season. But like you, I WANT THOSE DVDS!!
Warner have kindly sent over details on the second season of Six Feet Under which stars Richard Jenkins, Frances Conroy and Freddy Rodriguez. This five disc package will be available to own from the 8th June this year and should set you back somewhere in the region of $99.99:
4:3 Full Frame Presentations
English Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround Track
French Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround Track
Spanish Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround Track
Five Commentaries with Alan Ball, Writers & Directors
Episode Previews & Season One Recap
Featurette on the Final Two Episodes
English, French and Spanish Subtitles
Quote from: MacGuffinThis five disc package will be available to own from the 8th June this year and should set you back somewhere in the region of $99.99:
damn....does best buy offer lay-a-way???
wasn't season one cheaper????upon releasethanks for the update.......
The show is on its third season around here and it must the be the most brilliantly written TV Show ever, man.
I love macguffin...
so much, that i might dwell in his anus yet again. For a 3rd time!!!
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I have 3 solid days in June marked off me calendar for back-to-back second season... the first set was so addictive. What an excellent show!
i've been waiting quite some time for the second season... it's a great show when alan ball doesn't write.
Quote from: xerxesi've been waiting quite some time for the second season... it's a great show when alan ball doesn't write.
I think you're confused... he writes great episodes... he just directs them sometimes, and he's not very good at directing.
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: xerxesi've been waiting quite some time for the second season... it's a great show when alan ball doesn't write.
I think you're confused... he writes great episodes... he just directs them sometimes, and he's not very good at directing.
i'm not confused, the episodes he writes are among the worst... but this is just going by the first season, as that is all i have seen so far.
but you're right on the directing thing, he's not very good at that either.
Quote from: xerxesQuote from: RegularKarateQuote from: xerxesi've been waiting quite some time for the second season... it's a great show when alan ball doesn't write.
I think you're confused... he writes great episodes... he just directs them sometimes, and he's not very good at directing.
i'm not confused, the episodes he writes are among the worst... but this is just going by the first season, as that is all i have seen so far.
So you didn't like the first one? That's odd cause IMO, it's a great episode and well directed too, Ball set perfectly the tone of the series I think, only thing is that I just began to see the first season, got hook on the third and I have yet to see an episode of the second so I don't know anything about it (the 1st so far is really great).
Just in case:
SPOILERS FOR THE THIRD SEASONWhat now I love is the amazing transformation of Nate from the first to the third seasons, in the first episode he's all positive, carefree and sort of cool, and well at least in the 3rd season he's just more bitter, but who wouldn't if your wife is missing.
i almost stopped watching after the first episode
Quote from: xerxesi almost stopped watching after the first episode
i DID stop watching after the first episode. i'm glad my mom and my sister liked it enough to get the dvd's, otherwise i never would have found it.
the new season starts off june 13th
how many seasons has the show been on?....3?
yes, this will be number 4. i am FUCKIN' excited... to put it like nate would.
Quote from: bonanzatazyes, this will be number 4. i am FUCKIN' excited... to put it like nate would.
...lucky bastard.. :wink: ..i don't have HBO...phuck.i don't even have CABLE!!!!..but i did spends $90 on season one..and looking forward to doing the same for season 2...........i'm just wondering how many seasons i need to look forward to so far... :)
i rented season one and hated it.....i hope it's better and worth all the hype.
Quote from: El Duderinoi rented season one and hated it.....i hope it's better and worth all the hype.
well, it
is intended for mature audiences..
Quote from: PubrickQuote from: El Duderinoi rented season one and hated it.....i hope it's better and worth all the hype.
well, it is intended for mature audiences..
hey now, i'm mature. i just didnt think it was good at all
can u explain why it wasn't good?
Predicted answer: "I just didn't like it... it didn't have good direction"
OR POSSIBLY:
"gay people are yucky"
Quote from: Pubrickcan u explain why it wasn't good?
i just didnt like the story line. i thought the acting and directing were fine, but i just didnt like it.
Quote from: RegularKarate
Predicted answer: "I just didn't like it... it didn't have good direction"
OR POSSIBLY:
"gay people are yucky"
dude...stop. i have nothing at all against gay people, hell, my uncle is gay. you guys just think that i'm a dipshit because i'm a teen and it's bullshit.
Nothing against you, El Duderino, but you have to give him credit...
Quote from: RegularKaratePredicted answer: "I just didn't like it..."
Quote from: El Duderinoi just didnt like it.
ur age has nothing to do with it, duderino. Chest and Pedro and even Ebeaman manage to explain themselves fine. u still hav only repeated the same thing, u didn't like, that much we know already. what i was asking is what didn't u like about it, i'm sorry if that's too much to ask.
out of all the teens who hav ever grown up on this board, i think u are the slowest to realise that it has nothing to do with ur age at all. chest grew up before our very eyes, into writing coherent reviews. "just" is "just" worthless.
sorry, i'm a guy of not many words. deal with it.
nice cop-out.
that's ok,. the brilliance of this show remains unaffected by ur awkwardness. i can finally stop trying to give any credit to ur opinions.
*dealt with*
Warner Bros. has delayed season two of Six Feet Under which stars Richard Jenkins, Frances Conroy and Freddy Rodriguez. This five disc package will now be available to own from the 6th July this year. The retail price will remain at around $99.99. Extras will include commentaries, episodes previews and more.
Quote from: MacGuffinWarner Bros. has delayed season two of Six Feet Under which stars Richard Jenkins, Frances Conroy and Freddy Rodriguez. This five disc package will now be available to own from the 6th July this year. The retail price will remain at around $99.99. Extras will include commentaries, episodes previews and more.
WHAT THE FUCK!? like they haven't had enough fucking time to make this fucking disc...
http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/
There's a trailer for Season four on there that is just outstanding. It's a piece of work unto itself. Can't wait.
Quote from: ®edlumhttp://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/
There's a trailer for Season four on there that is just outstanding. It's a piece of work unto itself. Can't wait.
that was nice, thanks. that's what trailers should be.
Anyone watch the first of season 4 yet? I thought it was pretty damn great. I don't really think its all kicked off yet though. It felt like the conclusion to an X-Files end of season cliffhanger, in a way. Really liked the direction in this episode.
i guess this is where me and this thread part ways..
Quote from: ®edlumAnyone watch the first of season 4 yet? I thought it was pretty damn great. I don't really think its all kicked off yet though. It felt like the conclusion to an X-Files end of season cliffhanger, in a way. Really liked the direction in this episode.
Well, it was all to do with the coping of the Season 3 finale. I enjoyed it (especially since it helped me remember how season 3 ended) and thought the main point of it was for closure and a chance to start in a new direction (for the family). I thought they had written off Russel, but now there's still a chance he'll go psycho mid-season and hold Claire hostage in some artistic way.
And I forgot how much I liked Arthur.
Honestly. What the hell was up with tonight's (July 18th) episode? I think they finally, officially jumped the shark.
Why? Because they centered on one major event? I thought it played a bit stressed, but overly feasible into the story. Giving David a life changing event seems to be in order. I'm glad they finally gave a season revolving instance--something that's been missing so far.
We'll see where they take it, then you can ask if they jumped the shark again.
Quote from: RaikusWe'll see where they take it, then you can ask if they jumped the shark again.
After some sleep and some thought, that's exactly the conclusion I came to. Don't get me wrong, I didn't hate last night's ep like I'm sure a lot of people did. And I know that complaining about something coming out of left field on this show is like complaining about 24 being in real time. But it was so brutally unlike anything that had ever happened on the show before that it's not out of order to be disturbed by it (not only because of what happened and who it happened to but because it's such a departure from the show, in my estimation anyway).
My girlfriend's initial reaction to the episode was identical to mine: "This is like that episode of The Sopranos where Dr. Melfi was raped." The fact that Six Feet isn't The Sopranos (as the writers of Six Feet like to acknowledge isolated incidents like this in other episodes of the show) is a great comfort but it's all about where they take it. I mean David smoked crack, for Christ's sake! I was tearing my hair out during that! Not so much the incident as the tone of the episode felt like it belonged in a different show. Most unnerving hour of TV I've seen in a long time, if not ever.
One great thing a friend of mine pointed out was that the dog that David followed led him to grief while a dog led Nate to overcoming grief.
I get the sentiment, believe me. Last night's show wasn't one of my favorites by any means and I know what you mean about it being starkly out of contrast. I too had a beef with the *SPOILERS* post-crack smoking sequence but I've been taken down so many different roads with this show that I was very skeptical about and they've turned out great.
I could be way off on my assumption that the writers can pull this event back into the sequence of the show, but I've got faith. If nothing else it made me very anxious to see next week's episode (something any previous episodes this season failed to do).
That episode was so intense.
Interesting comments. Weren't both dogs labradors, too?
Also for x-philes - wasnt the opening location used in '3' the episode between Scully's abduction three-parter.
Raikus, you're right. I don't know why I doubted the writers.
One of the things that I noticed just the other night was that, from the first episode to now, the Fishers have really grown closer as a family since Nate Sr's death. That's just something that really brought the show even further home for me. David and Claire wouldn't have had a moment like that in season 1 or 2. And Ruth washing the dishes with Keith... so great. And nobody seems to need to talk to Nate Sr. anymore. A little sad but understandable; they have to move on.
But I'm still wondering, why dogs? How, if at all, are dogs going to figure in the end of the season? It seems like they're building up to something with dogs, maybe as symbols of the fear of death or inability to deal with death? A dog sent Nate to the psychic to find out about Lisa; David had to follow a dog before almost being killed; Nate used to work at a funeral home, now he works with dogs. I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with this.
We should all work with dogs
Yeah that was a great episode. It was like a greatest hits collage of characters. You had angry Ruth (so glad to see again), timid David, hippy Nate, high Claire, caring Keith, and screwed up Brenda. I really hated that they made Brenda revert back to her old self though. I doubt it will be as predictable as Brenda and Nate get back together and she's pregnant with Joe's baby, but it still makes me fear that outcome.
It was great for George to finally flip his lid. It was also painfully easy for Rico to explain away Sophia. Everyone seemed in good form this last episode.
As for the dogs, it almost seems like they're the litmus test for the characters behavior. Before I thought it may be coincidence, but after Nate's whole "I feel that they love me as much as I love them" line the writers are definitely using them as metaphor. Maybe the dogs are stepping in for the deceased this season. Isn't Nate the only one who has seen a dead person (his father). And even his Dad said he didn't belong in the house any more.
this season is shaping up. i had my doubts, but no longer. SPOILER When Joe walked in and Nate and Brenda makin' out on the couch, my hand was over my mouth for a good minute and a half. I'm kind of glad Joe is leaving though, SPOILER END and I hope that George will be out of the picture soon. He sucks.
I get the feeling George will get even more involved for the next couple of episodes with the absence of Ruth. It'll be interesting if they just leave Ruth out of it or show her with her sister and Kathy Bates' character (since I'm figuring that's where she headed).
Damn, Vanessa and her sister went off...
Quote from: RaikusDamn, Vanessa and her sister went off...
Angelica putting Vaseline on her face was classic. I haven't seen that since high school.
SPOILZZZZ
yeah, the vaseline shit was awesome.
I'm getting a little sick of Claire... hate to say it, but she's getting on my nerves... she's just too artsy and boring now.
does anybody remember the little girl that gave David the book to give to Nate? (or was it the other way around?)... there's something up with that girl... did I miss something?
Quote from: RegularKarateI'm getting a little sick of Claire... hate to say it, but she's getting on my nerves... she's just too artsy and boring now.
I think they're intentionally making her artsy and boring this season. For example, when they had the bonfire in the backyard and she goes up to her room and blasts Radiohead from the stereo. That was such a wanky, stereotypical art-school thing to do. Everything she's done in her personal life this season is very cliche college art major, right down to the lesbian experimentation. But my absolute favorite thing about this season is the relationship between her and David, how much closer they are than before.
I'm putting money on Claire snapping out of the artsy-fartsy crap once Mena Suvari gives her the final kiss-off, as the ad for next week alludes to. Now, she's been screwed over by men AND women.
Quote from: RaikusI get the feeling George will get even more involved for the next couple of episodes with the absence of Ruth. It'll be interesting if they just leave Ruth out of it or show her with her sister and Kathy Bates' character (since I'm figuring that's where she headed).
Damn, Vanessa and her sister went off...
no, the previews for this sunday show her hanging out with kathy bates. which is great, i love bates on this show.
Well no HBO and downloading bit torrents makes Raikus an uninformed boy. Good to know though.
my only problem with six feet under is in waiting for next week. if they showed the entire season in one night, i would just sit and watch the whole thing. oh well...
George is getting to be one of the funniest characters at the moment. The way he took to the bomb-shelter was fairly predictable but his paranoia is starting to reach levels on par with his intelligence, its such a great place to take his character. He's starting to become the eccentric dad of the family for me. The way he Rico and Nate dealt with B&E comic book guys was great.
George: "Oooh, I dont think so. I've got this guy coming over first thing saturday morning, he's gonna give me some advice on the air filtration system"
Ruth: "Oh. How long is that going to take?"
George: "Jeese, I'm not sure. Its not the sort of thing you want to rush. Now is it?"
anybody else currious about that creepy little girl in Lisa's family? The one that gave the book to Nate to Give to David? She seems... weird... maybe she's really a ghost
Yeah, I thought it was strange that Nate only mentions how weird the twins are when he's looking at the family photographs in the last episode.
I think we'll find out when Nate gives that book to Dave.
TOWELHEAD Has a Ball
Six Feet Under creator Alan Ball options feature rights to Towelhead, the debut novel from Alicia Erian.
Source: FilmStew.com
Alan Ball, creator and executive producer of HBO's Six Feet Under, has put up his own money to option the feature rights to Alicia Erian's debut novel Towelhead, which will be published by Simon & Schuster in the spring. Ball will now develop the feature script through his Your Face Goes Here Entertainment shingle.
Set during the Gulf War, the story intertwines the sexual desires and urges of young teenagers with the repressive mentality of adults. Towelhead centers on a 13-year-old Lebanese-American who must balance the sexual obsession she has developed for an American Army reservist with the watchful eye of her overly domineering Lebanese father.
Ball hopes to make his feature directing debut on the project. He has directed several episodes of Six Feet Under and will direct another episode in the upcoming fifth season of the Emmy-winning show. He is looking to get the film underway once the fifth season is wrapped. Ball won an Oscar for his debut script, American Beauty, and his since worked on two more scripts but has not yet shopped them around in hopes of directing them himself.
Erian is an Egyptian-American who has had a series of short stories published by Random House.
Could somebody tell me whether Season 4 has ended? I've managed to get up to episode 12 and I'm kind of expecting 13, seeing as all the other series had this as the finale....yet Alan Ball directed it, so hmm.
Yes, it's over... another year
HBO ready to bury 'Six Feet'
Source: Hollywood Reporter
HBO is preparing a eulogy for "Six Feet Under."
The pay cabler confirmed Friday that the upcoming fifth season of "Six Feet" will be the last for the ensemble drama revolving around the trials and tribulations of a family that runs a mortuary. Series creator/executive producer Alan Ball recently informed HBO executives that he felt the show will have run its creative course by the end of the upcoming 12-episode season.
"Working on 'Six Feet Under' has been enormously fulfilling creatively, but if the show is about anything, it's about the fact that everything comes to an end," Ball said in a statement. "I will miss working with such enormously talented writers, cast, staff and crew and I'll always be grateful to HBO for allowing and encouraging us to tell the story we set out to tell in a challenging and uncompromising way."
"Six Feet" has been a critical darling for HBO, if not a commercial hit on the scale of "The Sopranos" or "Sex and the City," since its 2001 debut. The drama -- whose ensemble cast includes Peter Krause, Michael C. Hall, Rachel Griffiths, Lauren Ambrose and Frances Conroy -- has been showered with Emmy nominations -- it earned 16 Emmy bids in 2002, its first year of eligibility, and 23 noms in 2003 -- but has yet to claim the top drama series prize in the annual Emmy derby.
"Six Feet" is a project that has been particularly close to the heart of Carolyn Strauss, HBO entertainment president, who originally dreamed up the notion of doing a series set in a mortuary. She pitched the idea to Ball, who was then hot off the success of his Oscar-winning screenplay for "American Beauty," and the writer-producer fell for it immediately.
"Dealing with death seemed like a very common experience that we could all relate to, and (the mortuary setting) seemed like a great lens for a fairly ironic show," Strauss said. "It also seemed like the kind of show that only (HBO) could do."
Strauss was quick to praise Ball and the rest of the "Six Feet" crew for "all the impressive work. It's been a fantastic experience to be associated with this show," she said.
Production on "Six Feet's" fifth season is set to begin Nov. 16, but a premiere date has not yet been set, Strauss said. Word of "Six Feet's" swan song season comes at a time when HBO is already in a transitional phase after bidding farewell to "Sex and the City" this year, while its other original series tentpole, "The Sopranos," isn't due back for its final season until 2006.
about 2 seasons too late
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=5782&n=1&burl=
Warner has announced the third season of Six Feet Under which stars the likes of Richard Jenkins, Frances Conroy, Freddy Rodriguez, Jeremy Sisto, Lauren Ambrose and Rachel Griffiths. The five-disc package will be available to own from the 17th May this year, and should retail at around $99.98. Each of the episodes will be presented in anamorphic widescreen along with English Dolby Digita 5.1 tracks. Extras will include five audio commentaries with Alan Ball, writers and directors on episodes 3, 4, 5, 11 and 13 and A Birdseye View of the Third Season feature which includes an in-depth interview with show creator Alan Ball and including the original HBO trailer.
Really like that cover art.
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very gregory crewdson.
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very gregory crewdson.
Cool. Thanks for dropping that name!
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I never thought they would do it that soon.
From HBO.com.
SIX FEET UNDER Season Five.
Six Feet Under premieres on a new night, Monday, June 6th at 9PM ET.
This is it folks....
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Look at that artwork! This show will be sorely missed.
i watched the season 5 premiere last night. it was okay, but it's already decidedly no season 2.
Quote from: Reinhold Messneri watched the season 5 premiere last night. it was okay, but it's already decidedly no season 2.
Season 2? That was one the worse seasons.
re-reading it, i suppose that i did make it sound like season 2 was good.
i was aiming for more of an "but at least it's decidedly not..."
in order of how good i think they were:
Season 1, Season 4, season 3 and Season 5, season 2
how 'bout season 0 then? the prequel season is my favorite. :yabbse-grin:
before mr. fisher died and stuff?
aaaah spoiler, i haven't seen season 1 yet! :(
last episode was pretty good.. even nate is snapping now! awwwyea!
Quote from: mogwaiaaaah spoiler, i haven't seen season 1 yet!
that happens first episode of season one. it's not a spoiler..
Is it just me or does Season 4 kind of suck compared the the the past seasons?
Given my order of favorite Seasons are...
Season 2
Season 1
Season 4
Season 3
Season 5
major spoilers for last sunday's (7/24) episode
So...
Ruth is back with Hiram.
Claire has pretty much ended her stint as an artist.
Keith is trying to reach out to the foster kids even after they took the car.
Rico and Vanessa are showing signs of maybe getting on the road to reconciliation.
Nate cheats on Brenda with Maggie and promptly has a stroke.
And no "next week on..." trailer afterwards!
It's pretty safe to say that this is the frogs-falling-on-Officer-Jim's-car point of the series.
Last weeks show fully redeemed this season.
Quote from: God Damn Im Da ManLast weeks show fully redeemed this season.
I agree. Halfway through this episode, I came close to turning it off and leaving SFU behind because I was so sick of the whining from everyone. Claire gets boned by some new guy, Ruth is still a whiny bitch, Nate is still an asshole and David and Keith are still gay.
Then the last 5 minutes of the show happened.
YES. I can't wait to see what goes down next week.
The last 5 minutes are what worries me. Its the thing which has been hanging over the whole of the last two seasons, its fairly obvious that they bring a brain tumour back for the end of show and a mid-season cliffhanger.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
so did not see that coming...
WOW-ZA!
spoilers ahead.
But wasn't the show based...around Nate? How the hell could they just kill him off like that? None the less, great job six feet under season has not only been redeemed but become one of the best.
***SPOILERS TO GDIDM'S SPOILERS AHEAD***Quote from: God Damn Im Da ManWOW-ZA!
spoilers ahead.
But wasn't the show based...around Nate? How the hell could they just kill him off like that? None the less, great job six feet under season has not only been redeemed but become one of the best.
That's what I was thinking too. But since we're just as invested in what happens to the family as much as Nate, we need to see them start life over again without him... and the loose ends need to be tied up as well.
It took the family an entire season to really start to heal after Nate Sr died. Nate Jr couldn't die in the last episode and then we don't see (or briefly see) what happens to everyone. I have a feeling that, since the funeral is next week, the last 2 episodes after that might be a few months on. Brenda still has to have the baby and I still have a suspicion that Ruth is going to die.
But until last night, I've never been so moved by the show or by the death of a character on any show. The idea that both of Maya's parents are dead gave me a particular twinge. It doesn't help that she's the cutest kid ever put on TV either.
What if they do a whole "Wonderful life"-"Christmas Carol" type deal, and just let Nate yonder around and let him figure out things for himself. If they did, i hope they 86 the whole angel/guide character, and I hope they don't get too preachy ala "Angels in America," although I did like the whole modern-biblics aspect and would really like to see what Alan Ball could do with it.
MINOR SPOILER
Quote from: 72teethWhat if they do a whole "Wonderful life"-"Christmas Carol" type deal, and just let Nate yonder around and let him figure out things for himself.
They sort of did that at the beginning of season 3, when Nate was under for surgery for the first AVM.
I was just about to say they already did that at the beginning of season 3.
But I agree that Nate's death really saddened me. Afterall, the show is about the Fishers however, It did focus on Nate the most.
Do you guys think nate will take on a role like Nate Sr. does on the show?
Also, I have to admit Mya is the fucking cutest child ever in television history!
Sorrow is sweet as show dies
The creator of "Six Feet Under" is pleased with what his series has said about death and grief.
The mourning has finally broken. Alan Ball is contemplating life after death — five seasons' worth.
Ball is coping with the final throes of HBO's "Six Feet Under," his black-humor-laced drama about a family-run funeral home that will end its run Sunday. "Six Feet Under" is one of the flagship components, along with "The Sopranos," "Sex and the City" and "Curb Your Enthusiasm," that have made the pay-cable network a critical favorite and powerhouse.
The 48-year-old Ball, who scored an Oscar for writing "American Beauty," is very much alive and kicking as he prepares to tackle new projects, including a play, a couple of screenplays and a novel he is adapting for a film he hopes to direct later this year.
For Ball, who says his characters are so real to him they haunt his dreams, fading out "Six Feet Under" is a mixed blessing.
"It's like having seven kids, and they all go off to college at the same time," Ball said in an interview. "This show is very dear to me. I'm letting go of something that felt very safe and familiar. It's definitely bittersweet, a growth experience, and not without some pain. But I'm really excited about moving on and doing something different."
The show's signature opening sequences — the mostly untimely demise of a future client of the Fisher family mortuary — spotlighted its exploration of how the living deal with the complicated layers of grief. The dramatic odyssey of "Six Feet Under" has been sprinkled with generous doses of sex, violence, surrealism and emotional turmoil.
Throughout the series, Ball and the writers did not shy away from pushing the envelope. One installment last season revolving around the brutalization of David, one of the Fisher brothers, provoked such outrage that some fans swore never to watch the series again. And Ball saved his most shocking twist for this season, killing off one of the series' lead figures — Nate Fisher (Peter Krause), the handsome, conflicted co-director of the funeral home — with three episodes left in the season, no less.
Fisher collapsed into open-eyed unconsciousness just minutes after cheating on his pregnant wife, Brenda (Rachel Griffiths). His subsequent death and the Fishers' grief in burying one of their own — their emotions ranging from tenderness to rage — has fueled emotional discussions in TV chat rooms and around water coolers.
Addressing the overall theme and meaning of "Six Feet Under," Ball paused.
"What the series is all about is: We die," Ball finally said. "So while we're here, let's live fully. There are lots of things that masquerade as having the key to life — religion, culture. But ultimately we have to make decisions on our own. And we will make mistakes. And that's OK, because we're human. It's a struggle to find meaning, but that struggle is the meaning."
Much of Ball's inspiration for the series was based on a painful adolescent memory. His sister was killed on her 22nd birthday in a traffic accident while driving the 13-year-old Alan to a piano lesson. Ball recalled the funeral and how his mother reacted as she approached his sister lying in an open casket.
"My mother leaned forward, kissed my sister on the forehead and started to weep," Ball said. "One of the funeral directors gently guided her away from the casket and took her behind a curtain. The implication was that grief is ugly and shouldn't be seen, it's so personal. But we need to know that everyone feels the same way."
A TV veteran, Ball previously wrote for series such as "Grace Under Fire" and "Cybill." But "Six Feet Under" evolved in ways that surprised even him.
"When I wrote the pilot, I was in an intense state of mind," he recalled. "I had had another show canceled, and I was exhausted. I knew HBO was interested in a show about a funeral home, I was two years into my TV deal, and I didn't want to write another network sitcom. I wanted to exorcise some demons while opening as many doors as possible. Although I had some ideas about what this show should be, it really became an entity of its own. I had to realize where the show wanted to take us and get out of its way."
Killing off Nate was part of that process. In Ball's mind, the character was doomed since the third season when he became afflicted with arteriovenous malformations, a brain disorder.
"Nate was always moving a step closer toward his own mortality. I got a lot of resistance from the other writers, but I always felt that nothing was as organic or as appropriate as Nate dying. And I didn't want to do that in the final episode. I wanted to have the Fishers grieve, to have them go through that loss and come out the other side. Life isn't about happy endings."
Despite the show's devoted fans, continuing bravos from critics and a mountain of Emmy nominations, some observers believe it has been overshadowed by its HBO brethren.
Tim Brooks, co-author of "The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows," said, "The audience for 'Six Feet Under' is very loyal, but the show has never had the breakout appeal of 'The Sopranos' or 'Sex and the City.' "
Brooks noted some of the criticism from fans last season for the episode in which David picked up a man who claimed to be out of gas and needed help. Though David thought his passenger might be game for some casual sex, the man turned on him and proceeded to terrorize him — robbing and beating him, forcing him to take crack, putting a gun in his mouth and threatening to set him on fire after dousing him with lighter fluid.
Instead of backing away from that episode, Ball has continued to refer to it in subsequent installments, notably the one with Nate's funeral, when David was nearly paralyzed with fear by visions of his assailant.
"I try to reflect life as much as I can," Ball explained. "When you are traumatized, it stays with you the rest of your life. To gloss over that would be a disservice. People don't want to look at what's painful. But it's dysfunctional to deny the impact."
Putting together the final episodes was a cathartic experience for the cast and crew, Ball said. "Yes, it was painful, but all of us love these characters so much it wasn't hard to access the feelings we needed to do the shows. Lauren Ambrose [who plays Fisher sibling Claire] told me that I made it possible for her to grieve the end of the show. All of those feelings were right there."
Fans hoping for revivals of "Six Feet Under" would be, well, dead disappointed. Ball promises that the end of the show really will be the end.
"I don't think you'll be seeing a Fisher family reunion or 'The Fishers Go to Hawaii,' " he said. "This is the final chapter."
R.I.P. Six feet Under.
In all honesty, this was the great series on television for the last 5 years.
I don't really enjoy this season that much, but overall it's amazing. I'm sad and kind of releaved that the show is ending. It's so emotionally draining.
I missed the clips special last night, but on Sunday, I almost threw the TV out the window during the exchange between Brenda and Billy.
I look forward to mopping up snot after the finale on Sunday.
it's over. it's over and that's the end of that.
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that whole sequence with everybody dying was definitely in claire's head. it may have seemed like that was what was really going to happen to those characters when they died, but that was only for fans of the show who wanted a concrete ending. there were several shots showing claire's reaction to what she was thinking b/c the real fans know six feet under can't have a concrete ending. we can't know how they really all die b/c that doesn't allow us to have our own insights into our favorite characters' futures. what we saw were claire's insights into the future, not our own.
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but yeah, that was a nice way to end the show. so much more could have happened had there been a sixth season. but there wasn't. b/c everything has an end. especially this post.
i thought it was brilliantly ended.
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i loved it when nate was singing in claire's dream, but i was scared for a minute that they'd end the show that way. the sequence was really quite good. i didn't think they did as good of a job as they could have with the aging, but it's all good. the idea was there. my mom was sobbing, but i just thought it was nice to see the show oversaturated for a change. the widescreen was nice, too. death happens, especially in that show. i think that those were actually glimpses into the end of those characters lives... not just what claire thought.
did y'all see any spin off potential that you think HBO might use? Six Feet Under is definitely over, but i could vaguely see them taking another show in a different direction following claire to NY or something like that. i don't think they will. just an idea.
i think that was a horrible ending. i thought the whole sequence was claire watching her whole life, including the future, flash before her eyes, leading up to her death, which would end the show
it seemed like some sappy bullshit to me
Quote from: meatwadit seemed like some sappy bullshit to me
SPOILERS THROUGHOUTThe last couple of episodes from Nate's death to last week were overall better than this one but still... the epilogue felt right to me.
Six Feet Under has always taken shit in a different direction from what other shows have done in the past. I'll begrudge them a sappy bullshit (ONLY in comparison to previous episodes) ending like that because their idea of sappy bullshit is showing a montage of the main characters' deaths in the last 4 minutes of the last episode, which I agree with Reinhold Messner is all in Claire's head but that doesn't matter because the deaths themselves were pretty much in line with the opening deaths in each episode (Keith getting shot in an armed car robbery? Rico, Brenda, and David just dropping dead.) and it pretty much seals up that we're never going to see a reunion show or a spinoff show, thankfully.
But I had this sinking feeling, as soon as Claire drove away, that she was going to get hit by a bus on the way out. That would have been awful.
EDIT: Re: all in Claire's head. Strike that. Reverse it. Thank you. (http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/obituary/episode63.shtml)
Quote from: bonanzatazit's over. it's over and that's the end of that.
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that whole sequence with everybody dying was definitely in claire's head. it may have seemed like that was what was really going to happen to those characters when they died, but that was only for fans of the show who wanted a concrete ending. there were several shots showing claire's reaction to what she was thinking b/c the real fans know six feet under can't have a concrete ending. we can't know how they really all die b/c that doesn't allow us to have our own insights into our favorite characters' futures. what we saw were claire's insights into the future, not our own.
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but yeah, that was a nice way to end the show. so much more could have happened had there been a sixth season. but there wasn't. b/c everything has an end. especially this post.
Dude, I don't know if it was all in Claires head. How can you debate that real fans know six feet under doesn't allow us insights into characters futures? Clair wasn't reacting to those the images in the montage, she was crying because she left home to go to New York. Also, If each death didn't give an actual date of death I would have totally agreed with you Bon, but the fact that it did signifies that it was a concrete end to each person's life.
I dunno, that's my opinion.
fucko.
well your opinion is WRONG, BITCH! claire wouldn't marry ted, she hardly knew the guy plus she relocated to ny. when brenda dies and billy is talking to her, if you close caption what billy is saying, he's talking about claire and ted b/c he's still obsessed with claire 60 years later. yeah, billy's crazy, but i think he'd find somebody else to obsess about. when claire dies, she's in goddess mode in this giant bed with these photos on the wall like she made a giant success of her life. everything relates back to claire and what claire knows now. i feel like they never really defined whether or not that sequence was real or imagined b/c some fans of the show needed that closure while other fans needed to keep it open to their own interpretation. like a lynch film. i guess we're both right then, gd. but i'm sticking to my guns, mo fucka.
Okay guys, just for the record...
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well it looks like i'm going... six feet under!
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i've lost all faith for bonz. come on, HOOK???
um, why would anyone knock spielberg's best movie (not to mention dustin hoffman's best performance)?
are you serious?
Smee is amused.
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well anyway, the deaths werent in claire's head. even HBO's site has everyone's deaths listed and mentions how claire did marry ted. everything was for closure on the characters.
i'm sorry, cinephile, mogwai, and kurt russell, but i refuse to budge from my position. yall are entitled to your opinions, but i think it was in claire's head and i love hook.
and mogwai, what faith could you possibly have been able to lose for me? i WAS practically the only board member that absolutely loved xXx. i like dumb movies if they're made well and if you disagree with me we can take this to the spielberg forum... you wanna mess?
Ive just watched the last episode and I have to say that this show is/was probably the greatest televisual achievement in a series, ever. This wasn't like the closure of the last episode of The Fresh Prince of Bell-Air - this was actually brilliant.
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I liked the tonal ambiguity of the end. I mean beside Ruth and Claire every other characters death scene was a comedy set piece. Look at Keiths uniform, Billy hypothesising boring Brenda to death, David getting a heart attack from a hard-on etc. Anyway its exactly the kind of tongue in cheek end to an amazing show that is as good as it is because of its ability to have you freaked out/in tears/laughing all in the space of a few minutes.
RIP Six Feet Under.
edit: Just thought I'd share this, Nates music video:
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'Southern' deal reunites Ball and HBO
Source: Hollywood Reporter
HBO has dug up a new deal with "Six Feet Under" creator Alan Ball, but this time he's switching from the dead to the undead.
The first project covered under the two-year deal Ball signed with the premium cabler to develop new original programming will be based on the "Southern Vampire" book series.
HBO has ordered an hourlong pilot to be written and directed by Ball, who last created "Six Feet," the Emmy-winning HBO drama series about a family mortuary business that ended in August.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
HBO president of entertainment Carolyn Strauss was the executive who approached Ball with the kernel of the idea that became "Six Feet." But resurrecting Ball, who also won an Oscar for writing "American Beauty," for a new project was an unexpected development for her.
"I had always assumed that Alan was done with TV," Strauss said. "I thought he was going to do movies, so we didn't even try. Then he read this book and said, 'I want to do this.' It was really a beautiful surprise."
Ball has been busy since closing up shop on "Six Feet," penning several screenplays on spec and developing a theatrical production in New York, "All That I Will Ever Be." But he found "Southern," written by Charlaine Harris, too enticing to ignore.
"I was ready to do something a little lighter in tone than 'Six Feet,' " Ball said. "Five years of staring into the abyss was enough."
"Southern" chronicles the intermingling world of humans and monsters in contemporary rural Louisiana, particularly vampires, thanks to a synthetic blood formula that allows them to roam far from their coffins.
"The books are funny, scary, sexy, romantic, bizarre and really fun," Ball said. "I couldn't put them down. I will try to remain as true to the spirit of her book as possible."
Bringing Ball back into the fold represents a coup for HBO, which has proved adept at getting the creators of its hit series to come back for another try; "Deadwood" executive producer David Milch recently signed a new deal, and "Sex and the City" executive producer Michael Patrick King already has completed a second series for HBO, "The Comeback."
There is no set timetable for shooting the "Southern" pilot, but Ball believes it will happen sometime next year.
"Alan is a real master television writer," Strauss said. "I have a lot of confidence in his ability to create an HBO series that brings a lot of viewers to the screen."
HBO has set Six Feet Under: The Complete Fifth Season for release on 3/28 (SRP $99.98). Video on the set will be anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Extras will include audio commentaries, episodic previews and recaps, behind-the-scenes featurettes and more.
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i'm way too late to comment of this brilliant show. but i think this is the best tv show ever. i'm not saying that too look cool or something. i really think alan ball created something wonderful, vital, sad, funny, tragic etc etc... i bought all the seasons two months ago and i finished watched last seasons two week or so. i bawled my eyes out through the last three episodes of season five. the characters feels close to me and it feels like i've known them for many years. there's obviously flaws here and there as the two first seasons are masterpieces. my 20 cents.
Man, I can't beleive I made that Nate montage in 2005. I'm looking forward to re-running the whole show again soon because I still think its the peak of televisual acheivement in a drama series. Whenever I hear a sentence contruscted with excessive usage of the F-Bomb I still think of Nate Fisher. I also can't hear Todd Rundgren's "I Saw the light" without thinking of Lisa.
Mogwai, what were some of your favourite episodes? Two that stand out in my memory were the episode where Nate discovers his Dad's rented room and the episode where Claire goes walking through the cemetery with her Dad and there's a big carnival on.
I bought the series for my girlfriend a few months ago and rewatched season two forward. I think it's the third time I've seen season two. Absolute perfection. Lots of people talk about how they can't sit down to write a screenplay without riffing on Tarantino or PT but for me it's always Alan Ball (or, more accurately, the entire six feet writing staff).
I love this show. Its the best show on Death ever. It makes me emotional, no matter how many times I see one episode. I fell in love with the characters and I wanted to hang out and have orgies with claire's college friends. Especially the one thats on '24' right now. I feel like I really knew them. I know what you mean Nix. My writing, friends have told me, has been reminiscent of Alan ball, David Mamet and David Lynch. And that heartfelt ending to the series was one of the few pinnacles of TV of the past ten years.
Quote from: Redlum on March 11, 2009, 12:38:54 PMMogwai, what were some of your favourite episodes? Two that stand out in my memory were the episode where Nate discovers his Dad's rented room and the episode where Claire goes walking through the cemetery with her Dad and there's a big carnival on.
as i mentioned earlier, the last three episodes of season five. there's also the last episode of second two and the first episode of season three that struck a chord. there's also the epsiode where nate finds out where his first wife (who "drowned") had an affair with her own brother or something.
and for the record, michael c hall is a genius actor.
MCH can do anything.
just finished season five. holy shit. the last few episodes were mind blowing.