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I guess it's inevitable that we'll start hearing celebrity coronavirus announcements.   It has begun.

https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1237909897020207104

The question is, will Fox News claim that he's faking having the virus to make Trump look bad, or that he intentionally contracted it to make Trump look bad?

At what point is it appropriate to start freaking out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4m-lNi61Rk

Quote from: eward on March 11, 2020, 09:33:35 PM
At what point is it appropriate to start freaking out?

Yeah...
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Cheeto just cancelled all flights from Europe for 30 days, and the NBA has cancelled their season.  Angela Merkel announced two-thirds of Germans may become infected.  The NYSE officially became a bear market after 11 years, Harvard and other colleges are telling students to stay home and take classes online.

I think things are going to get increasingly alarming at an ever increasing pace in the days ahead.

I'm already a little freaked-out. 

https://twitter.com/vicvaiana/status/1237962697129541632

Quote from: Sleepless on February 07, 2020, 10:24:04 AM
I'm going to be in Newport Beach April 23-25 for a work trip and am hoping to tag on an extra night on one end to spend some time in LA. Would anyone be interested in showing me around town or letting me crash on their couch?

So this trip (and others I had coming up in next couple of months) have been cancelled. Not because of Coronavirus concerns, but more as a cost-cutting measure because this whole thing is hitting our industry hard (we're a travel business). It's been kind of interesting - though crazy - to witness events unfolding through this lens. Good news is, our business is apparently in good health and they legitimately do take very good care of their employees; word is that we can survive a short downturn, but there is of course worry about them eventually starting to lay people off if things don't improve by the summer.

(From the PTA 2020 thread)

Quote from: Pringle on March 12, 2020, 01:10:44 PMThat hour long stretch last night — travel banned from Europe, Hanks tests positive, NBA season suspended — was one of the most surreal, mind blowing hours I can remember.[/size][/font]

Yep.  I think there will be more moments like that to come.   I think in retrospect last night will be considered the moment when it "got real" for many people.  I predicted a few days ago that the first "notable" (celebrity, etc) infection would finally get everyone's attention (helped, obviously by the travel ban and NBA cancellation). 

Really interested in what's going to be decided about the Olympics.  I'm smelling a strong financial push-back on that decision.

The three largest counties in western Washington are closing all K-12 schools until at least April 24th, potentially longer depending on the situation at that point. The largest restaurateur in Seattle is closing 12 of his 13 restaurants for the next two months, putting hundreds of people immediately out of work. It's likely that any number of smaller restaurants, not to mention other small businesses, are going to go under due to lack of business.

Meanwhile, we're bailing out the fucking banks.

https://twitter.com/Wienermobile/status/1238232995624030215

Quote from: polkablues on March 12, 2020, 05:35:52 PM
The three largest counties in western Washington are closing all K-12 schools until at least April 24th, potentially longer depending on the situation at that point. The largest restaurateur in Seattle is closing 12 of his 13 restaurants for the next two months, putting hundreds of people immediately out of work. It's likely that any number of smaller restaurants, not to mention other small businesses, are going to go under due to lack of business.

Meanwhile, we're bailing out the fucking banks.

Naomi Klein was right about so many things.

From exams to the five-day week, the pandemic is making us question our everyday practices. Some changes will stick. (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-school-exams-five-day-week-pandemic)

Not only is production scaling back, so is exhibition.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9rvoDTl8rz

Yep, most programming has been cancelled here too.

Movie Theaters in Los Angeles Ordered Closed by Mayor in Response to Coronavirus (https://www.thewrap.com/movie-theaters-los-angeles-closed-coronavirus/)

It was just announced in Washington State that all bars, entertainment and recreational facilities in the state will be closed until at least the 31st, and all restaurants/coffee shops/etc. are only allowed to serve take-out and delivery orders. It's going to be weird, but after driving through downtown Seattle on Friday night and seeing how packed the bars were, I get it.

Same here in NYC as of 9am tmw.

https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1239617034901524481

Wonder why (and where and how) he got tested if he has no symptoms?

He's a rich actor, probably at the Rich Actors clinic. Olga Kurylenko has it, too. That shows that a lot of people are contagious with no symptoms.

Coronavirus: Universal to make current theatrical movies available for home viewing on Friday (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-03-16/coronavirus-universal-to-make-current-theatrical-movies-available-for-home-viewing-on-friday)

QuoteIn an extraordinary step, the studio on Monday said it will make its movies available in the home on the same day as their global theatrical releases, beginning with DreamWorks Animation's "Trolls World Tour," opening April 10 in the U.S.

The company will also make movies that are currently in theatrical release available on-demand starting as early as Friday, starting with "The Invisible Man," "The Hunt" and "Emma."

The movies will be available on a wide variety of on-demand services, including iTunes and Google Play for a 48-hour rental period at a suggested retail price of $19.99.

At that price point, that's going to be a hard pass from me.

Quote from: wilberfan on March 16, 2020, 01:52:39 PM
Wonder why (and where and how) he got tested if he has no symptoms?

This is probably the answer.  (From the LA Times):

QuoteElba said he tested positive Monday morning. He recently spoke at the massive WE Day 2020 event in London on March 4. Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, the wife of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, also spoke at the event and reportedly posed with the actor. She tested positive last week.

Man, I thought the news cycle was fast before.  Two local businesses--a movie theater and a taco restaurant--Insta'd how their seats are a certain distance apart and they still have dine-in service (respectively) in the last hour.   They're already out-of-compliance....  (Movie theaters must close; restaurants can be take-out or delivery only.) 

As I've observed (in MN), the order of things that have gone out of stock:

1. Hand sanitizers & wipes
2. Toilet paper
3. Isopropyl alcohol
4. Aloe gel (combine with alcohol to make hand sanitizer)
5. Paper towels
6. 409 and certain other anti-bacterial/viral cleaners
7. Acetaminophen
8. Gatorade (randomly noticed an empty shelf)
9. Eggs

I'm very stocked up on most things, but I'm legit going to make a couple stops tonight to find acetaminophen and eggs. Seriously though, why would you stockpile eggs?

Went to the hospital today for different reasons than Corona. They had a house apart from the hospital where they took care of all the suspected Corona cases and because I've had a cold in the last couple of week they isolated me in a room that I wasn't allowed to leave, neither was I allowed to borrow a phone due to the infection risk. It wasn't the nightmare i've been reading about in the media.

Was listening to some doctor on the radio this morning talking about how the increased testing protocols in the US are going to lead to a sudden (apparent) spike in the number of infected, which will ultimately be a good thing because it will spur official actions that should have been taken weeks ago.

Which made me realize that Trump handled this situation the same way that I handle the "check engine" light on my car turning on. Just act like it's fine and hope it randomly goes away on its own. Then get pissed when the repair bill is $2000 instead of $200.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on March 16, 2020, 04:29:51 PM
Seriously though, why would you stockpile eggs?

Because tons of parents are stuck at home with their horrible children, and whipping up some scrambled eggs is a quick and easy way to shut them up for ten minutes. Same reason the mac & cheese shelf was cleaned out when I was at the grocery store the other day.

My work has officially closed our offices in Fort Worth, Seattle, and NYC. 100% remote until April 15. Would be nice to have some reassurance that everyone's jobs are safe until at least X date, but I guess we've just got to be optimistic.

Olga Kurylenko (https://www.instagram.com/p/B9w1fGQhllp/)

Kristofer Hivju (https://www.instagram.com/p/B9zvkEHBRjf/)

Rachel Matthews (https://www.instagram.com/rachellynnmatthews/)

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

Placido Domingo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/spanish-opera-singer-placido-domingo-has-coronavirus/2020/03/22/f9e952d4-6c60-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html)

Joe Biden?

We're currently at three members of Congress who have tested positive: a Republican from Florida, a Democrat from Utah, and Senator Rand Paul. A few more, and they might actually start doing something about it.

Angela Merkel's doctor (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-budget.html)

Why Porn Stars Are in a 'Better Spot' Than Hollywood Actors Amid Coronavirus Shutdowns (https://www.thewrap.com/porn-stars-coronavirus-filming-shutdown-pornhub-sarah-vandella-maitland-ward/)

Harvey Weinstein (https://www.indiewire.com/2020/03/harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-coronavirus-prison-report-1202219706/amp/)

[EDIT: before we get too celebratory over a scumbag testing positive, remember this means it's probably spreading like wildfire through the prison system. This actually sucks.]

fuck these are going to be long days

The playwright Terrence McNally has died from Coronavirus.

Greta Thunberg (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/climate/greta-thunberg-coronavirus-covid.html) (untested)

Prince Charles (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/europe/prince-charles-coronavirus-gbr-intl/index.html)

Jackson Browne (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/jackson-browne-tests-positive-coronavirus-1203544389/amp/)
I think these announcements are going to start coming more and more quickly in the next couple of weeks.  Jesus.

My cousins got it. Loss of smell and all. My cousin probably got it from delivering packages in Paris, and then gave it to his sister.

The circle will inevitably tighten--and we will start self-reporting.  We're a pretty small sample, but spread out across the globe.

My cousin is convinced he got it a few weeks ago. Suffered through it, in isolation, then recovered. Now laying low somewhere in Denver.

John Prine (https://www.stereogum.com/2078485/john-prine-coronavirus-hospital-critical/news/)

The World Is Changing — So Can We

The pandemic is revealing the many ways our lives intersect. Is this an opportunity for us to reimagine what we can be?

By: David Byrne

I went for a long bike ride today. I needed to get out and clear my head. The sun was shining, daffodils were emerging along the riverside bike path, dogwood trees were in bloom and at one point I thought to myself, "Yeah, life goes on."

Pretty corny, and maybe even a bit selfish given what so many people are going through right now. But maintaining the basic rhythms of life that remain available can give one a sense of resilience.

I ask myself, is there something we can learn from this, something that will prepare us to better weather the next crisis, some different way of being that might make us stronger? Is this an opportunity to change our thinking, our behavior? How can we even do that? Are we capable of doing that?

It's ironic that as the pandemic forces us into our separate corners, it's also showing us how intricately we are all connected. It's revealing the many ways that our lives intersect almost without our noticing. And it's showing us just how tenuous our existence becomes when we try to abandon those connections and distance from one another. Health care, housing, race, inequality, the climate — we're all in the same leaky boat.

Viruses don't respect borders. They get in even with extra screening and travel restrictions. Maybe less, but some slips in. And until there is a vaccine, no one is immune. What that means is that we have to put aside some of our suspicions and animosities towards others and see how much we can limit or even halt the damage.

One hopes that smart analyses and initiatives will help us discover how to do that. We at Reasons to Be Cheerful like to look around and see who has already found success in solving a problem. A few places like South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore have done a good job with containing this thing — kids are in school, people are going to work, cafes and restaurants are full. In many European countries, governments are making sure folks still have an income. Gingerly, these people's worlds and economies are returning to normal — a somewhat new normal.

What can we learn from their success? For one, many of these countries didn't hesitate. They began testing as many people as possible almost as soon as the virus appeared. Many of them tested even those who didn't show symptoms. If someone tested positive they were quarantined, and using GPS and phone data the people they had recent physical contact with were found and isolated as well. Meanwhile, other folks went about their lives while submitting to screenings like mandatory temperature checks before entering public spaces.

In these places there were sometimes lockdowns and town-wide quarantines, but not for very long. Vò, the Italian city that had that country's first coronavirus death, did something remarkable. According to the Guardian, absolutely everyone in town was tested — 89 of the tests came back positive. Then, after a nine-day period of town-wide isolation, another series of tests was conducted. Six people tested positive that time, and those people continued to be isolated, while others went back to their lives. Workplaces reopened, kids returned to school. Life has come back. Folks can pay their bills.

Vo's intervention worked, but there was a price. Freedoms were curtailed, as they have been, to some degree, in virtually every place that has contained the virus. Authorities have used surveillance cameras and contact-tracking teams to locate the recent contacts of the infected. In places like Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore and Vò, folks have shown a willingness to share information with the government, make personal sacrifices and do what is necessary for the greater good.

Some might find the measures taken to halt the spread of the infection to be intrusive. But the outcome they led to — THAT is freedom. To be able to return to one's life, with a job, healthy and safe — THAT is national security.  If those places can do it, why can't the rest of us? And what kind of change in our thinking would it take?

Nothing is normal anymore

There are different kinds of freedoms. When you're stuck in your house, as I am, you're not free, that's for sure. If you've been laid off you're not exactly free, either. How much do we surrender our rights and freedoms as individuals in order to better the health, safety, economic security and well being of everyone, including ourselves? Are we a bucket of crabs or a community?

We have changed our behavior before. Ignaz Semmelweis was mocked when, in the mid-19th century, he said that doctors washing their hands before working with patients could save lives. After his death, other germ theorists like Louis Pasteur and Joseph Lister showed how correct he was, and the procedure was adopted. Doctors, and all of us, made this change willingly, without coercion. It became a social norm.

What is happening now is an opportunity to learn how to change our behavior. For many of us, our belief in the value of the collective good has eroded in recent decades. But in an emergency that can change quickly. During the Great Depression, new policies to protect the public were introduced. It was accepted that these were necessary to stabilize society and get life back on track.

In emergencies, citizens can suddenly cooperate and collaborate. Change can happen. We're going to need to work together as the effects of climate change ramp up. In order for capitalism to survive in any form, we will have to be a little more socialist. Here is an opportunity for us to see things differently — to see that we really are all connected — and adjust our behavior accordingly.

Are we willing to do this? Is this moment an opportunity to see how truly interdependent we all are? To live in a world that is different and better than the one we live in now? We might be too far down the road to test every asymptomatic person, but a change in our mindsets, in how we view our neighbors, could lay the groundwork for the collective action we'll need to deal with other global crises. The time to see how connected we all are is now.

https://reasonstobecheerful.world/the-world-is-changing-so-can-we/ (https://reasonstobecheerful.world/the-world-is-changing-so-can-we/)

Quote from: eward on March 29, 2020, 07:31:42 PM
It's ironic that as the pandemic forces us into our separate corners, it's also showing us how intricately we are all connected.

eww ewww ewwwwww

That shit is serious and has killed a husband in his forties kind of related to my family, and another man in his forties known by the family is at the hospital with a ventilator.

And:

https://mobile.twitter.com/natashaldaly/status/1246900371706036228

I had to double-check that it wasn't still April 1st with that tiger story.  What are the implications of THAT?  Cross-species infection can't be good.  The way people have been freaking-out lately, does this mean literal packs of pets roaming the streets as families dump Fido & Mrs. Fuzz at local parks?

I was also just reading this:  Coronavirus Will Change the World Permanently. Here's How (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/19/coronavirus-effect-economy-life-society-analysis-covid-135579).

Fuck.

https://twitter.com/jeremylevick/status/1245174763808608256

The Entire U.S. Box Office This Weekend Came From a Single Florida Drive-in Theater (https://www.slashfilm.com/drive-in-box-office-entire-us-weekend/)

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With movie theaters across the country closed for the foreseeable future due to the ongoing coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, the weekly box office report is all but a distant memory. But there's one theater that's still keeping the weekly box office report alive. A single drive-in theater in Florida was the source of the entire domestic box office this past weekend, showing a whopping two (!) movies to its audience. So if you were missing your weekly box office report, here it is, in extremely barebones form.

The forced temporary shutterings of businesses and movie theaters across has created an unexpected result: the rise of drive-in movie theaters. Once a widely frequented form of moviegoing, the drive-in theater has become an increasing rarity since its heyday in the late 1950s. But now the drive-in theater is seeing a boom in business thanks to the pandemic.

That's true especially of the Ocala Drive-In in Ocala, Florida: the one source of the domestic box office this past weekend. The weekend box office report on the website The Numbers (via ScreenCrush) showed two new movies playing at one theater in the entire United States last week. The two films, the World War II mime biopic Resistance and the indie psychological thriller Swallow (both from IFC Films) were shown at the Ocala Drive-In in Ocala, Florida, according to journalist Gitesh Pandya, for a grand total box office $33,456.

https://www.qeios.com/read/FXGQSB.2

In 2020 I can now say that I smoke for health reasons.

Just realized I accidentally put this in the croak thread rather than the cough thread.

Quote from: Sleepless on April 27, 2020, 11:15:01 AM
Just a reminder this (https://www.amazon.com/adlp/sxsw) launched today.

Also. (https://www.youtube.com/WeAreOne)

Also - AMC is going to war with Universal:

• Universal Expects to Continue Select Releases on Premium VOD After Theaters Re-Open (https://www.indiewire.com/2020/04/universal-vod-releases-trolls-world-tour-success-1202227793/)
• AMC Theatres Won't Play Universal Movies in Wake of 'Trolls World Tour' Dispute (https://variety.com/2020/film/news/amc-theatres-trolls-world-tour-dispute-1234592445/)

Was Sundance a "First Petri Dish" of Coronavirus in the States? (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/was-sundance-a-first-petri-dish-coronavirus-states-1293378)

QuoteLike many who make the annual trek to the indie film mecca, Jackson left Sundance far worse off than when she entered. After all, the quaint mountain oasis transforms into a petri dish as some 120,000 festivalgoers from around the world huddle in crowded movie theaters during cold and flu season. In recent years, the festival's organizers have placed an emphasis on attracting international filmmakers, and this year was no exception, with a lineup of 118 feature-length films representing 27 countries.

Industryites long have dubbed any illness caught while visiting the 10-day festival as "the Sundance flu," a byproduct of frigid temperatures, late-night partying and all that handshaking, in which everyone becomes an unknowing vector for spreading germs. But there was something different about Sundance 2020. A swath of attendees, including festival regulars and at least one high-profile actor, became sicker than ever before, leading some to later believe they had early, undocumented cases of COVID-19.

QuoteTwo days after Patient Zero was identified in Washington, the festival kicked off. Few if any in Park City were thinking of the coronavirus. The Hollywood Reporter spoke with more than a dozen people with similar stories. Some asked to remain anonymous, including one writer and three of his friends who "all got the same mysterious sickness — a little different for each of us — but always quite intense."

QuoteDean Hart, a microbiologist and expert in virus transmission, says there's a good chance coronavirus did, indeed, sweep through Park City during the run of the festival given that the Wuhan lockdown began Jan. 23, the same day Sundance started. "Logic dictates that they most probably did have it," says Hart of the presentation of symptoms. "With Sundance, you've got the perfect formula for this virus to really go to town and contaminate everybody."

It may take months before the mystery of Sundance 2020 is unraveled. Antibody tests are not yet readily available. Further confusing matters, the country was in the midst of a particularly bad flu season. And during the fall of 2019, the CDC began investigating a mystery vaping illness, whose symptoms were nearly identical to COVID-19, with many of those hit experiencing fevers and shortness of breath, suffering respiratory failure and being put on ventilators. Furthermore, mounting evidence suggests that coronavirus hit the U.S. well before the Washington state case, which deviates from the initial understanding of its path. The Santa Clara County medical examiner recently announced that two residents who died in early to mid-February were infected with COVID-19, according to postmortem testing. That could mean the virus was silently spreading in California before mid-January.

None of the people THR talked to has yet to receive an antibody test. But all plan to get one as soon as a reliable test is available and will continue to practice social distancing. The experience has left several wondering whether Sundance 2020 was a previously unknown incubator for the virus.

"All those people that were in Park City, we all flew in and went somewhere else. And even a lot of the Uber or Lyft drivers were just in town for the festival, so they weren't all necessarily even from the area," says Morris, "We really could have been the first petri dish, and then we all just scattered."

NY tribute from Spike Lee

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I'd say natural selection would eventually take care of this, but let's be realistic, dumb people reproduce like rabbits at a rave.

'Hugs very okay' - who runs that place, John Lasseter?

I've Heard They Sell Bathrobes.

The Tribeca/Cannes We Are One Global Film Festival schedule has dropped (http://www.weareoneglobalfestival.com/schedule).

From a story in the L.A. Times, "Coronavirus Stories, Part 4 (https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2020-05-26/coronavirus-confessions-part-four-affairs-bad-teacher-behavior)":

QuoteMy partner has been social distancing with his family in his home country, and being apart from him is making me realize how many things annoy me. I have finally been able to clear my thoughts because I don't have to prepare myself for acting interested when he talks about film podcasts and the dumb conversations they have.

(This has to be one of us, right?)

QuoteI've been ordering more than my fair share of sex toys. I'm the Goldilocks of dildos. This one's too big. Those are too small. And I still haven't found one that's just right.

Whatever it takes.  No judgement.

Former GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain dies of COVID-19 (https://apnews.com/8173fe14f7cf7095ced3b55fdc65581e)

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Cain had been ill with the virus for several weeks. It's not clear when or where he was infected, but he was hospitalized less than two weeks after attending Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on June 20. Cain had been co-chair of Black Voices for Trump.

A photo taken at the rally showed Cain, without a mask, sitting closely to other people who also were not wearing any face coverings. A statement on his Twitter account said he tested positive for COVID on June 29 and was hospitalized July 1 because his symptoms were serious.

Rep. Louie Gohmert, GOP mask skeptic who tested positive for virus, says he'll take hydroxychloroquine (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/30/louie-gohmert-covid-hydroxychloroquine/)

QuoteOn Wednesday, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), a vocal critic of masks as a way to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, tested positive for the virus.

Hours later, he told Fox News host Sean Hannity he and his doctor already had agreed on a treatment: hydroxychloroquine, the antimalarial drug pushed by President Trump and his allies despite warnings from the Food and Drug Administration and medical experts that it isn't effective as a coronavirus treatment and could carry significant health risks.

"My doctor and I are all in," Gohmert said on Fox News on Wednesday evening, adding he would start taking the drug "in the next day or two."

Chris Rock says he has COVID-19, urges vaccination (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2021-09-19/chris-rock-says-he-has-covid-19-urges-vaccination)