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The Director's Chair => The Director's Chair => Topic started by: (kelvin) on May 03, 2003, 07:30:43 AM

Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: (kelvin) on May 03, 2003, 07:30:43 AM
I want to ask, and I have mentioned this before, why only american directors get their own category? Are David Fincher or Cameron Crowe (and others) really more important filmmakers than, let's say, Fellini, Truffaut, Tarkovsky, Godard and Antonioni?
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: phil marlowe on May 03, 2003, 07:37:32 AM
everyone confuses the directorial forums with a ranking list. so to you; its not. the forums is based on the amount of debate possible.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: (kelvin) on May 03, 2003, 07:57:31 AM
I see. But: how can you debate more about Crowe than about Fellini?
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: phil marlowe on May 03, 2003, 08:00:44 AM
we have a banner on a crowe fansite.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: ©brad on May 03, 2003, 08:03:49 AM
well, in all honesty, more people here are familiar with and have better access to Crowe's work rather than Fellini's. I think the main purpose of the director's forums is to let people know what each filmmaker is up to and to report news of upcoming projects, thanks to Mac. Save Kubrick, all the other directors who have forums are alive and working. i think we should keep the discussion on the dead guys in the general directors thread.
Title: Re: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: MacGuffin on May 03, 2003, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: chriskelvinI want to ask, and I have mentioned this before, why only american directors get their own category? Are David Fincher or Cameron Crowe (and others) really more important filmmakers than, let's say, Fellini, Truffaut, Tarkovsky, Godard and Antonioni?

This is why:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1037

Look at the first sentences of the first two threads. Cinefile was surprised no one made a thread about Fellini and Ghostboy was surprired no one had responded. The thread doesn't go past two pages.

Antonioni's thread as mainly a discussion between you and Gold Trumpet.

Fellini's thread went a page and one post and was mainly about film recommendations.

And so on. So it's not about 'more important', like life, it's a popularity contest.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 03, 2003, 11:22:33 AM
I say kill 2 to 3 director forums, like Wes Anderson, The Coen Brother, and Cameron Crowe and just regard all talk about them to the regular director thread. Even more maybe seeing the limited traffic they all get, besides PTA's. Then I say create a forum for foreign filmmakers specificially and promote the idea of more talk for filmmakers outside the US. What you would have is a good number of famous US directors still open for general director talk and a new area for foreign directors in hope it can spark some interest, and at least represent a portion of the people that visit this forum.

~rougerum
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Ernie on May 03, 2003, 12:40:35 PM
Fincher and Lynch should definitely be taken off before any of the others are taken off...imo.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 03, 2003, 01:23:53 PM
Yeah, we mos def have too many diretor sections...

Id like to add that the last one that should ever be taken off  is the PTA one. Remember our roots.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 03, 2003, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI say kill 2 to 3 director forums, like Wes Anderson, The Coen Brother, and Cameron Crowe

Quote from: Phil Marlowewe have a banner on a crowe fansite.

http://www.theuncool.com
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: (kelvin) on May 03, 2003, 04:38:23 PM
Alright, I understand. Nevertheless, I would argue that this board harbours enough cinephiles who know "foreign" filmmakers' works very well. Maybe the "popularity" of some categories could be explained by the simple fact that they are on the forum index, whereas others lead their forgotten lives somewhere in the shadows where they are easily overseen unless some people show real interest in  them.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: rustinglass on May 03, 2003, 05:44:53 PM
I have to say that I agree with chris on this: It seems that most people here are familliar with one "foreign" director or another. Maybe you could do it by areasrather than just "foreigner": western european directors, scandinavian , eastern european, asian.....

What about ridley scott, he's pretty popular.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 03, 2003, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: rustinglassI

What about ridley scott, he's pretty popular.

lets not add foreign directors for the sake of adding foreign directors
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 03, 2003, 07:09:41 PM
rustinglass, one step at a time. You need to start out with general foreign category first and see how it runs before even beginning to go into categories. That only comes with great popularity of general one.

And yes, JB, under advertising purposes, Cameron Crowe should remain indefinitely. Fincher, Lynch or Speilberg could go too.

~rougerum
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 03, 2003, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetFincher, Lynch or Speilberg could go too.

Spielberg and Fincher
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: RegularKarate on May 03, 2003, 11:39:22 PM
Yeah... Lynch makes films that people seem to talk about a lot.

The Fincher thread will wake up once his next film gets rolling, though I wouldn't be so sad to see it go.  

Spielberg has enough of a past and makes enough films currently to deserve a forrum, but it's not a very popular one, so I could see it eliminated if necessary.

I still Like P's idea... Dead and Alive.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: phil marlowe on May 04, 2003, 05:22:42 AM
i think we should let them all go except crowe and pta because we have links on their sites, and maybe kubrick because hes the man everyones into and admire. well make a foreign directors forum and then well just start using the directors chair and the everything else cinema forums.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: TK-421 on May 04, 2003, 02:01:33 PM
Just make a Foreign Directors thread and see what happens over time. If a certain one keeps getting mentioned, then setup a separate thread.

Simple.  :)
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on May 05, 2003, 08:43:54 AM
I agree with TK-421 (shouldn't that be 481???)......
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Pubrick on May 05, 2003, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: punchdrunk23(shouldn't that be 481???)......
no.
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: USTopGun47 on May 22, 2003, 02:06:12 PM
there should absolutely be foreign director catagories! drop anderson and throw in fellini for godsakes! :shock:
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Cecil on May 22, 2003, 07:41:46 PM
Quote from: USTopGun47drop anderson and throw in fellini for godsakes! :shock:

wes or pt?
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: USTopGun47 on May 23, 2003, 04:05:49 PM
oh my god wes.... i am so sorry for not clearing that up.   :cry:   Never PTA.  That would be as bad as suicide.  but definetly wes!
Title: why concentrate on US directors?
Post by: Cecil on May 23, 2003, 06:07:43 PM
Quote from: USTopGun47oh my god wes.... i am so sorry for not clearing that up.   :cry:   Never PTA.  That would be as bad as suicide.  but definetly wes!

okay then  :yabbse-thumbup: