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Title: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 10, 2021, 01:10:19 AM
I watched the premiere of Falcon and the Winter Soldier a few weeks ago, and I just could not conjure the interest to continue. It bored me to tears.

I really miss Wandavision. Was the finale disappointing? Sure. But ultimately I put it in the same category as Westworld. It's imperfect but has a creative vitality that we can end up taking for granted.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Drenk on April 10, 2021, 07:42:17 AM
I'm not watching, but it feels as if nobody else is watching, too, or maybe people got exhausted after Wandavision and its very noisy reception?
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: WorldForgot on April 10, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
Episodes 2 and 3 of Falcon + TWS were all right, on par with the Netflix marvel shows at least. But the villain/antagonism iz near nonexistent. Works best when its a buddy show about Falcon + Bucky's disparaging ideas/ideals regarding Steve. Episode 4's finale caps off the penultimate hour with a mature beat - but nothing that's breaking ground.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 21, 2021, 02:09:18 PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1384733666790809602

I only watched Ep 1 of F&TWS but have continued consuming spoiler podcasts, and this is definitely in reference to F&TWS, which like the Cap movies seems to have politics baked into its very premise.

I will say, though, that the bank loan scene in the premiere was so ridiculous to me as to be world-breaking, and even moreso when I learned that scene was approved at the highest levels by Marvel's Council of Elders (which is actually called the "parliament").

In that episode you had Falcon executing special ops of the highest level for the U.S. military, and he is a widely-renowned superhero... why would he need to apply for a loan ever? Are the Avengers and/or the government paying him minimum wage? Are there not foundations? What is Tony Stark's money doing? Is Pepper Potts viciously hoarding wealth? The only possible explanation I can come up with is that Falcon refuses to take any money for the work he does. And if that's the case, he's just an idiot.

BTW I hope the new thread title is sufficiently evocative and triggering.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: WorldForgot on April 21, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
LOL

I know this series has a more serious tone than Wandavision, but I still consider them both essentially children's television; even if the demo iz Tweens + Teens and not anyone younger than 11. Its logic iz mechanical, and never true critique. They're looking to make a multi-quadrant hit for the platform with Mandalorian's weight that translates what Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely brought to Winter Soldier and Civil War. But at least Mando admits it's better off with less dialogue. 

Here the buddy action comedy that Could Have Been finds itself stifled with "realism." Its mechanics beholden to some sorta low-risk neoliberal tightrope act.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: WorldForgot on April 23, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
Spoiler: ShowHide
https://twitter.com/VyceVictus/status/1385585469895942147


Iz any depiction of "Captain America" free from the reality of the Amerivan government's history? A homegrown Steve that leaves the army Skeptical? Perhaps even leaves the super serum program with resentment for the country that's abandoned the ideals which brought him and Bucky together?

I've only read Bendis' run of Avengers characters, usually I stick to X-Men or ish like SNOTGIRL/TRANSMETROPOLITAN -- but I wonder if the comics have ever attempted an inversion of Superman: Red Son within Marvel. Maybe Vyce iz right and that character just can't ever really be liberated from the corporate hegemony around them.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 28, 2021, 02:07:36 PM
https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/status/1387452550157410308
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: WorldForgot on April 28, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
 :doh:
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: jenkins on April 29, 2021, 01:12:24 AM
shoutout to marketing disguised as sincerity
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 14, 2021, 01:06:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BBfryg7YYE

Loki's score is simply on another level. Natalie Holt is a composer to watch. Just incredible stuff throughout.

Anyway, this ended up being a very fun and essential show. I still prefer Wandavision, though.

One complaint about the finale:

Spoiler: ShowHide
Jonathan Majors's performance emphatically did not work for me. I know he's making "a choice," but wow, this heavily-mannered thing just did not flow or coalesce at all in my opinion. Every sentence was excruciating.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 18, 2022, 02:47:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Krla_UxRg

This one's a yes from me.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Robyn on January 18, 2022, 03:00:55 AM
Call me insane, but I'm a fan of what they're doing since Endgame. I haven't seen No Way Home yet, but I hope they go crazy with all this Multiverse stuff, especially in Raimi's Dr. Strange. The new Thor sounds promising as well.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 17, 2022, 06:46:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gim2kprjL50

YIKES

Come for the Shrek-level animation, stay for the gender stereotype jokes.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: WorldForgot on May 17, 2022, 07:41:48 PM
It looks so bad... Like, it has a bit more life to it than the recent Star Wars series, but it seems so uninspired.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Yes on May 17, 2022, 09:17:17 PM
Take Marvel around back like Old Yeller and put them out of their misery
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 17, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Wandavision and Loki look like anomalies at this point

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on January 18, 2022, 02:47:29 AMThis one's a yes from me.

Update: haven't watched.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: polkablues on May 18, 2022, 12:43:49 AM
The thought of ever watching another Marvel movie or series fills me with exhaustion on such a deep, existential level. I can't even bear the idea of watching the good ones, much less some sitcom-frivolous Ally McBeal reboot that forgot to update the gender politics from mid-90s standards.
Title: Re: Assorted Marvel television content
Post by: wilberfan on May 18, 2022, 01:17:53 AM
Having rather enjoyed the first two seasons of THE BOYS, I must admit I'm curious about the upcoming Season 03--but literally nothing else in Superhero World holds any interest for me.