What's your favorite use of music in a PTA movie? You can discuss both the score as well as regular songs.
I'm partial the use of "One" in Magnolia and Brion's score in PDL.
God Only Knows
Both "Clementine Loop" and "Do Your Thing" in Boogie Nights.
"Craft Service Theme" by Jon Brion
Tough call. "Sister Christian" in Boogie Nights is classic. I also loved "He Needs Me" in Punch-Drunk Love.
Clementine Loop
Nobody mentions Wise Up because it is to obvious to mention. But isn't it the best use of music in a PTA movie?
I personally think so
Haven't seen PDL though
Yeah, Wise Up is the obvious one. But aside from that, God Only Knows just made Boogie Nights so much greater for me. It made the ending really moving...I'm a big Pet Sounds fan.
I didn't want to have to state the obvious. I'm glad someone else already did.
SYDNEY
-Both closing credits songs, although im more partial to Fiona's
BOOGIE
-Joy
-Machine Gun
-You Got The Touch(soundtrack version especially)
-Jessie's Girl
-Livin' Thinng
MAGNOLIA
-Its all wonderful, even "Dreams", which I would hate under any other circumstance. The best though, is of course the peak/cut to black/ writen&dir by pta
KNUCKLEPUNCH
-Here We Go(which wasnt even in the fuckin thing)
-He Needs Me
-All score(thats some crazy fucking shit they cooked up)
Long push-in on Melora Walters, Oscar-nominated Aimee Mann song... the best cut to black in the history of cinema.
Sydney- Jon Brion/Michael Penn's demented rendition of christmas music, film noir style.
Boogie Nights- Do your thing, Livin' thing, Spill the Wine, Jessie's Girl
Magnolia- I take Jon Brion's ever-evolving score over Aimee Mann any day (although I still love Mann)
Punch-Drunk Love- Brion's score, especially during the scene where everything's happening at once in the warehouse (am i the only one who was fucking annoyed by the shelley duvall song?)
(Yes, you are.)
Moana Chimes
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My Heart Will Go On.
HARD EIGHT
Jon Brion & Michael Penn - Tokens To Cash
(I put up the soundtrack for download a months ago (with the help of sphinx) - if you want the mp3 pm me - its so funky)
BOOGIE NIGHTS
ELO - Livin Thing Best fucking credits song! It fits so well - especially with the cool title cards with character and actor name!!
Special mention - Sniff N Tears - Drivers Seat - soooo perfect placement for when Thomas Jane (Todd Parker - I love that name - so good) rocks up
"full fuckin race cams" :D
MAGNOLIA
Driving Sideways (played when Solomon Solomon is yelling at Whiz Kid and he throws the keys on the desk - its soooooooo subtle yet sooooooo cool - i love it)
PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE
I'll tell you in another 8 fucking weeks :(
(I am in Australia)
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Where the hell is THAT kid?
i'll once again state the obvious with...
"Save Me"
- Aimee Mann
Now for my sad confession. My first PTA film was this weekend with Punch Drunk Love. I really liked it and rented Magnolia the next night...really liked that one too.
I have yet to see Hard Eight or even Boogie Nights.
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Where the hell is THAT kid?
I think he was gone for a while until he saw PDL, so we'll see what happens.. maybe we should email him again, cause he needs to be here..
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-Both closing credits songs, although im more partial to Fiona's
There is no Fiona on Sydney . I think they even met that time.
And the best song in all PTA movies is "One" on Magnolia.
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-Both closing credits songs, although im more partial to Fiona's
There is no Fiona on Sydney . I think they even met that time.
And the best song in all PTA movies is "One" on Magnolia.
its at the end of commentary #2 on the dvd.
Isn't that Aimee Mann - I Should've Known?
My bad.
"Commentary #2
PTA, Philip Baker Hall, Michelle Satter (Sundance Film) & various crew + Isolated Soundtrack + alternate bonus end credits song "I Should've Known" by Aimee Mann)."
I wonder why I always thought that was Fiona?
Hard Call...but to stray from the obvious...I really like the whole Le Petit Chateau (I think it's called)...in PDL when Barry first tries to play the Harmonium.....alone it's lame...but in the scene...it's zippity-do-dah!
One of my favorites is on Boogie Nights, during the Amber/Rollergirl "will you be my mom?" coke montage with everyone. I love that fucking song and it works so well, but I don't know what the song is. It's not on either soundtrack. Anyone?
"Happiness is a Warm Gun".
Roberta Flack - Compared To What
I don't know what Pubrick is going on about?
Sus Brisbane dude.
Quote from: P"Happiness is a Warm Gun".
sweet, thanks. Just downloaded it.
Jon Brion - Here We Go Again
PDL Waltzes
All Things Done By Aimee Mann in Magnolia
one of the best directers ever in this respect, better then scorsese
see marty may have set the standerd, but i think pta is open with his music
god just look at boogie nights
the ohio players, the beach boys, elo, night ranger, roberta flack
and one hit wonders like lonley boy by andrew gold
i still think magnolia needed to have a more open soundtrack, look how powerful that donnie smith scene is with supertramp playing
all though " wise up" is one of the best moments in film history
this is kind of a given but cameron crow is pretty fucking great too , but vanilla sky suffered a Bit with the inclusion of REM And radiohead
it just felt awkward like he was trying to fit it in
I don't know... I kind of enjoyed the Vanilla Sky selections. Red House Painters, Josh Rouse were some nice attributes. I think everything in its right place and sweetness follows fit in nicely with the futuristic spin.
Quote from: USTopGun47I don't know... I kind of enjoyed the Vanilla Sky selections. Red House Painters, Josh Rouse were some nice attributes. I think everything in its right place and sweetness follows fit in nicely with the futuristic spin.
i think the todd rungren song fit rather nice indeed
i like the idea of finding old songs and giving them life
how many people have ever heard " feel flows" before he used it
Using old songs can be great, and certain directors have great talents for digging stuff up. Especially Tarentino! I loved when he used Stuck In the Middle With You in Resevoir Dogs and Midnight Confessions in Jackie Brown. Moonlight Mile had an exceptional soundtrack with older folk/acoustic/60's music. :)
See my PTA/Altman/Nilsson thread for more discussion of PTA's use of one great songwriter's works...
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=1682
Livin Thing
The best song of all PTA movies is ONE from Magnolia but there are two beautiful songs more in that movie, MOMENTUM and SAVE ME and I think Magnolia has one of the best soundtracks of the last years
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Brion's "So Now Then" bit of the score. Of course.
Quote from: SoNowThenBrion's "So Now Then" bit of the score. Of course.
Yeah, I actually play the score more than the soundtrack these days. My favorite is the "Chance of Rain" piece... perfect for the most emotional section of the film. That is one emotionally exhausting movie. I mean that as a compliment, of course.
i just saw john brion live last night -- FUCkING AMAZING --quite FUCING UNBELIEVABLE
The rest of the "Hard Eight" soundtrack is excellent! If you listen in the background when you watch the movie, you can hear a great score from Jon Brion and Michael Penn. For example, the music that plays when the title comes across the screen and the late night scene when John and Clementine drive off to Niagra Falls. Now, if you have the film on DVD, you can click on the 2nd commentary track and hear some of the music when it plays. But what's interesting is the music that plays when Clementine and John drive off doesn't take place in that scene. So, where can you find the music to "Hard Eight"??? I tried Kazaa Lite, but no luck. Can someone please give me a website or some device for the music to the movie besides "Clementine's Loop"?
I'm too fucking late, but anyway:
I just have seen "Sydney" one time, so I can't really remember some music, but..
BOOGIE NIGHTS
"Driver's Seat" combined with Philip Baker Halls introduction as well as Thomas Jane's. So amazing!
"The Big Top" (thanks MacGuffin!) by Michael Penn
And of course the "Clementine's Loop"!
And last but not least "Spill the Wine".
MAGNOLIA
"One" in the title sequence.
The Supertramp-song during the bar scene.
I love how William H Macy had the same pop song from the 90's always playing when he got in the car. I got a chuckle ouf of that.
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ELO - Livin Thing Best fucking credits song! It fits so well - especially with the cool title cards with character and actor name!!
I couldn't agree more with you on that selection for a closer. Something about it just really works well. The opener of (You've Got) The Best Of My Love is a lively song to start off with . I grew up in the late 70's and early 80's, so mostly all of this music kind of hits home. Actually, whe whole album's soundtrack fits so perfectly to the movies era and especially some scenes. Sister Christian/Jessie's Girl while the ripoff scene went down was great. The Machine Gun dance scene was especially good too.
Boogie Shoes
Spill The Wine
You Sexy Thing
For some reason, I am hooked on this film........
OK PTA freaks, my guess is that he selects his own music instead of someone else doing the soundtrack score for him? I saw no credits for it on imdb except for the music made for the movie by Michael Penn.
I just watched Boogie Nights again tonight and I was really paying attention to the music selections. This has got to be one of the greatest soundtracks ever assembled. With the help of the My Boogie Nights Gift To You All thread, I finally have every song in the movie!
third floor hallway
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Can somebody please tell me where in the movie this is b/c it's not listed on the soundtrack @ imdb and I haven't a clue as to what song/music this is.
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Can somebody please tell me where in the movie this is b/c it's not listed on the soundtrack @ imdb.
In "Hard Eight" it's right at the beginning over the credits.
In "Boogie Nights" it plays over the "On The Prowl" scene.
In "Magnolia" it plays during the prologue when Sydney Barringer is loading the shotgun for his parents.
Other movie scenes that would be greatly improved if they were retrofitted with "Clementine's Loop":
1. Gary Cooper waiting out the final minutes for the train in "High Noon"
2. The nervous soldiers making small talk while awaiting the German tanks in "Saving Private Ryan" (this would replace the godawful, movie-derailing stories that Matt Damon and Edward Burns tell while they're waiting)
3. Charlton Heston riding up the beach at the end of "Planet of the Apes"
4. Sulley thinking he's watching Boo go through the trash compactor in "Monsters Inc."
5. The final Death Star trench run in "Star Wars"
Quote5. The final Death Star trench run in "Star Wars"
ohhhh, that's good.
Quote from: coffeebeetleQuote5. The final Death Star trench run in "Star Wars"
ohhhh, that's good.
Of course, a flying tractor-trailer would have to zip past the screen, and that might take you out of the moment. :P
"Tango Yellow Five, we have an 18-wheeler at 10 high..."
"Break hard right! On my mark.....NOW!"
Quote from: freakerdudeOK PTA freaks, my guess is that he selects his own music instead of someone else doing the soundtrack score for him? I saw no credits for Boogie Nights on imdb except for the music made for the movie by Michael Penn.
Is anyone going to answer this for me please?
I'm pretty sure (with Boogie Nights at least) that someone helped him with the soundtrack selecting tracks and whatnot)...I don't have my disc with me right now, but I'll get back to you on that one.
I have the 2 disc DVD and the credits do not list a specific person for the music score or arrangement. The first music credit is for Michael Penn, who also wrote and performed original music on it. So my guess is he was responsible for the arrangement. He is also listed on the back cover for the general listing of "Music by".
The reason I ask is b/c several of the scenes were written especially for the song like Boogie Shoes....he goes in and buys these Italian leather high heels. Spill The Wine starts the pool party scene off, I believe. It just seems to me that PTA selected the music and there is no definitive person on the credits that I can find except Exec. Music Producer, Music Execs, Soundtrack Mixer, etc....
yeah PTA does have music in his movies.
I can't get any justice...........or info, :?
not only I think he selects music, but I've also read in an interview that, when he was stuck in the writing of magnolia script, he found inspiration in aimee mann's songs.
by the way, the songs I prefer are wise up in magnolia and the touch in boogie nights, also because they tall a lot about one of the interpretations that can be given to the movies. the whole sequence with sister christian and jesse's girl is also great!
Quote from: whisperernot only I think he selects music, but I've also read in an interview that, when he was stuck in the writing of magnolia script, he found inspiration in aimee mann's songs.
by the way, the songs I prefer are wise up in magnolia and the touch in boogie nights, also because they tall a lot about one of the interpretations that can be given to the movies. the whole sequence with sister christian and jesse's girl is also great!
welcome.
i love the transition to the new years eve party from the final adult film awards......the music and whatnot
For the Record: Boogie Nights
Allie was live from Rockwell Table & Stage in Los Feliz previewing their latest dinner and show called "For The Record: "Boogie Nights".
Stimulate your sensations this summer as everything is growing over at Rockwell with For The Record: Boogie Nights. Beginning on June 7, the space at 1714 N Vermont Ave will no longer operate under three distinct names but instead the entire venue will be referred to as Rockwell and include a bi-level outdoor dining space as well as a newly remodeled live music performance space. While renovations will continue throughout the summer, "For The Record" co-creators Shane Scheel and Christopher Lloyd Bratten choose to present a show adapted from the works of Los Angeles director Paul Thomas Anderson for a summer experience that Angelenos will not easily forget.
For patrons coming to see For The Record: Boogie Nights the evening will seem very familiar as many of the films Paul Thomas Anderson has created and directed tell stories about California and Californians. Angelenos will be mesmerized as they watch music performances by some of LA's most skilled actors, enjoy a full food and drink menu and relish the ample space now provided. For The Record: Boogie Nights begins Thursday, June 7 and runs until Saturday, August 4. Weekly performances are Thursday, Friday and Saturday at 9PM. Tickets range from $30 - $35, for ticket information please call (323) 661-6163 (ext 20) or visit http://www.fortherecordlive.com/.
For The Record: Boogie Nights will include a selection of songs and scenes from Boogie Nights, Magnolia, There Will Be Blood and Punch-Drunk Love. The evening will include an array of music styles from 70s-80s Disco to the Grammy and Academy Award-nominated Aimme Mann with specifics songs including "Sister Christian," "Brand New Key," "Jesse's Girl," "Wise Up," "One," "Boogie Shoes," "God Only Knows," "Aint No Stoppin' Us Now."
http://www.ktla.com/news/local/alliemackay/ktla-for-the-record-boogie-nights-20120620,0,3706759.story
Aimee Mann was on the latest Sound Opinions (http://www.wbez.org/sound-opinions-aimee-mann-104832), and it's quite good.
They bring up PTA a couple times, and she talks about him briefly. This is the relevant part. It's at 8:20 in case anyone's wondering.
Tom Sharpling, Paul Thomas Anderson, Joel and Ethan Coen: who was the more talented director/auteur that you've worked with?
[laughs] That's a funny question... Paul Thomas Anderson is... I spent way way more time with Paul on set, so I... the Coen brothers thing was literally like 5 minutes and then you know, like, they seemed very nice, they seemed very quiet, and then I was out, you know... Paul Thomas Anderson is an incredible director, and watching him work with actors, I think he kind of gets the best performances out of actors. He's really amazing.
has anyone ever hated the fucker? haven't heard a single bad story about the guy. he's gotta trip on his laces sometimes, right
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has anyone ever hated the fucker? haven't heard a single bad story about the guy. he's gotta trip on his laces sometimes, right
this the closest we've got http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=7254.0
and that huge article Pozer posted one time in the CMBB thread detailing how PTA never associates with losers he grew up with or people he worked with before he was big, "PTA never looks back" i think was a quote from one of his spokespeople when confronted with the contents of the article. so there's some bitterness there, mostly from the deadbeats who wanted to ride his coattails.
get pozer to repost that.
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and that huge article Pozer posted one time in the CMBB thread detailing how PTA never associates with losers he grew up with or people he worked with before he was big, "PTA never looks back" i think was a quote from one of his spokespeople when confronted with the contents of the article. so there's some bitterness there, mostly from the deadbeats who wanted to ride his coattails.
get pozer to repost that.
http://living.msn.com/life-inspired/the-secret-history-of-paul-thomas-anderson
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He always used to say "Miss Stevens, I'm going to be a famous director. I'm going to win the Academy Award."
Awwwwwwwwww
Quote from: trashculturemutantjunkie on January 15, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
has anyone ever hated the fucker? haven't heard a single bad story about the guy. he's gotta trip on his laces sometimes, right
Didn't he cheat on that singing waif?
I´ve always feel that there are some bits of music in pta´s films that remind me his past movies. Like if there was a strange connection throug the music. Here are some examples i want to share, if you listen closely to the songs you can feel an escence of the films i mention.
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In Punch Drunk Love: "He really needs me" min 0:30-0:45 reminds me Sydney
In There Will be blood "H/W Hopes of new fields" min 0:40 -0:50 reminds me Boogie Nights
In The Master: Duke Ellington´s Lotus Flower reminds me Magnolia, min 0:20 -0:30
And of course many of the music composed for The Master has a big connection with There will be blood. Maybe i´m just crazy or something but i´m sure it could be a delivered choice by pta and i find it really great!
I spent this morning listening to The Thin Red Line score on a loop, thanks to Cinephilia And Beyond (http://cinephilearchive.tumblr.com/post/69321134112/one-of-my-favorite-screenplays-arguably-the), and was struck by the huge similarities between it and the Magnolia score. Not just the tone of it, but certain things almost seem lifted directly.
A quick google found some posts here and there from people who thought the same, even the music editor of TTRL, Lee Scott, (http://www.soundtrack.net/content/article/?id=272) who says:
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PM: I especially admire the edit where Zimmer's score segues with Charles Ives in "Journey to the Line." It's brilliant.
Lee Scott: That was my idea. Hans wrote a piece to copy the Ives but it didn't fly. However, that piece appears on the soundtrack album though it wasn't in the film. "Journey to the Line" was the first piece of music Hans composed that clicked for the film. Here is some super music editing trivia: In the film Magnolia there is a cue that copies the transition from Hans' score into the Ives. It must have been in their temp. They copied an edit!
Does this affect my appreciation of the Magnolia score? Not a bit. But it certainly is curious.
Listen for yourself:
Thin Red Line score on Grooveshark (http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/The+Thin+Red+Line/316954)
Magnolia score playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFssgJWM_0Q&list=PLEE89BBB2398B8BCB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFssgJWM_0Q&list=PLEE89BBB2398B8BCB)
You just blew my mind. That is a direct lift.
I actually like the Jon Brion version vastly better, though. Not nearly as repetitive. Listening to "Journey to the Line" I keep waiting for it to resolve or shift and sort of want to pull my hair out.
I fixed your link. The YouTube mod kind of pulled up the first video automatically.
I think this is the one in particular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1b9JQOQVPc
Although, doesn't the Magnolia score also have that pizzicato thing elsewhere? Where is that?
Here's the Zimmer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG9-j3eevL4
I finally got around to watching Boogie Nights on blu for the first time.. I've never entirely listened to the soundtrack either, so doing that right now I checked out the original "The Touch" and noted that it was released in '86 and popularized in The very first Transformers movie. IMDB seems to confirm that Boogie Nights' timeline is '77-'84. The studio session takes place in'83. So, is Paul making a sly joke that Dirk has a secret talent for songwriting and he sold this song to Stan Bush which became a huge hit? That his stuff is "really that good"? I never considered it, I always just took it to be a cover at face value.
I love the possibility of this. I never worked out the timeline before--I always assumed Dirk and Reed decided to cover it because they thought it was a cool song.
On second thought, the joke would be that they stole this song from him because he doesn't own the magic on those tapes