Started by polkablues, August 18, 2012, 01:41:45 AM
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Quote from: DocSportello on September 25, 2012, 12:43:07 AMAlso, what is with the dragon analogy during his wedding speech? I didn't get that part at all.
Quote"Freddie was cured alright." The protagonist having sex with the naked woman on top in profile, the only difference this time real instead of imagined, in private.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 24, 2012, 07:35:51 PMOh, the gaps and mysteries definitely merit discussion. I didn't mean to discourage that. I just don't think they should be used against the film, to describe those parts as "shoddy storytelling" or "dumb" or "lazy" (samsong's words). I think we should take a moment to figure things out before we jump to those conclusions.
Quotedodd's words in that dreamed phone call is the loving beckoning of the prodigal son's father (more on this later) and such a beautiful visualization of freddie's dire need for companionship, that his subconscious has resorted to wish fulfillment.
Quoteone question about a minor detail. when freddie asks peggy about elizabeth, she says, "dfc." (dcf?) what the shit does that mean?
Quote from: DocSportello on September 25, 2012, 12:43:07 AM For me it was the naked sing along that reminded me most of Kubrick. It brought back feelings from EWS for obvious reasons but I could also see Alex from Clockwork imagining those girls frolicking about. So cool.
Quote from: Neil on September 25, 2012, 01:04:06 PMGeographically speaking, Where is Freddie cutting the cabbage, because isn't it some place in china? this may explain the, "gone to china," section and also why Dodd sings it.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 24, 2012, 12:24:11 PMA really strange parallel just occurred to me: Dodd serenading Freddie with "I'd Like to Get You on a Slow Boat to China" & Freddie's "Gone to China" message from one of the trailers.On the surface it seems like Freddie should be writing that message on some bulletin board in the Master's school as he leaves at the end. But that's not the case — he's dressed in a sailor suit and is obviously younger. Which on its own makes absolutely no sense. It only makes sense as a figurative (and almost Lynchian) connection to Dodd's serenade. Sort of an answer to it... like he's gone to China by himself, not on a slow boat, and not with Dodd.
Quote from: Tictacbk on September 25, 2012, 02:11:37 PMQuote from: Neil on September 25, 2012, 01:04:06 PMGeographically speaking, Where is Freddie cutting the cabbage, because isn't it some place in china? this may explain the, "gone to china," section and also why Dodd sings it. I'm pretty sure this took place somewhere in central/northern California and the other workers were just immigrants from various other places. I think the time gap between when he runs away from the farm and when he gets on Dodd's yacht is relatively small. Part of the reason he hops on the boat is to escape (physically and mentally) that he may have killed that old farmer.