What shows are you watching?

Started by Jeremy Blackman, May 06, 2017, 04:03:18 PM

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Jeremy Blackman

Oh nice, I didn't know you were a Filmcast listener. That's where I heard about this too. I made a thread.

https://xixax.com/index.php?topic=14482.0
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Robyn

I only recently started listening to podcasts (used to be one of those anti-smartphone guys lol) and Filmcast is the one I'm obsessing over. Great humor and chemistry between them, and more often then not they have very interesting takes on things. Was listening to their Stowaway review today - a film I enjoyed to some degree, but they described it as some sort of masterpiece and brought up some really interesting things that completely went over my head on my first viewing. Made me wanna rewatch it instantly . 

Cool! I missed that thread. It's crazy how underrated it is when he is so committed to this whole thing. Highly recommend it to everyone here!

Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: Robyn on August 07, 2021, 01:00:55 PMI only recently started listening to podcasts (used to be one of those anti-smartphone guys lol) and Filmcast is the one I'm obsessing over. Great humor and chemistry between them, and more often then not they have very interesting takes on things. Was listening to their Stowaway review today - a film I enjoyed to some degree, but they described it as some sort of masterpiece and brought up some really interesting things that completely went over my head on my first viewing. Made me wanna rewatch it instantly.

I discovered that podcast after seeking out reviews of "Get Out." Their take on that film (with guest Aisha Harris) was just stunningly insightful, so I was instantly hooked. Became completely obsessed with the podcast and listened to their entire back catalogue from the very beginning, downloading mp3 files one-by-one on slashfilm.com.

Co-host Jeff Cannata has gone on to create The Dungeon Run, which is one of my favorite things ever. He's obviously a great podcaster but TDR unlocks his entire array of talents.
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polkablues



Loving this show so far. It's reminding me a lot of Atlanta, at least Atlanta's less surreal, more grounded episodes. Few shows are so good at capturing that specificity of culture and setting.
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wilberfan

I'm enjoying 'Dogs' as well.  Not very plot-heavy, we just spend a little time in their world each episode--getting to know everyone.

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wilberfan

https://youtu.be/J4TT9Bh90nM

I enjoyed this--in that 70's & 80's decadent, Behind-the-Music rise and fall, kind of way.  (You may mock me at your convenience.)

Jeremy Blackman

I watched Midnight Mass. It was boring enough that I probably fast-forwarded through 1/4 of the show, but I have to say that was a great way to watch it. The premise is a lot of fun, and it pays off gloriously. Definitely worth watching just for a few key scenes/moments.

If you plan on watching it, try to go in knowing NOTHING.

HUGE SPOILER


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This was so good. So, so good.


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Jeremy Blackman

After years of off-and-on viewing, I finally finished The Good Place. And I hated the finale.

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Apparently the show was never actually interested in imagining "the good place." It was always going to be a lame metaphor. The end-your-existence door is just a stand-in for the uncertainty of death IRL. This would be fine (albeit still disappointing), except it doesn't make sense as a metaphor either. The message is what—embrace the mystery and off yourself when you're ready to go? What a mess.

The characters choose annihilation only because the writers couldn't conceive of a good place that works. I can think of a number of different good place concepts off the top of my head that wouldn't lead to a mass-suicide.

The problem is that a good place that works would probably be far enough beyond human understanding that it would require too much abstraction to describe on screen. In the end, this show has limited aesthetic parameters. It feels like the writers were never prepared to do anything imaginative with the real good place. We could've had something truly bonkers and original, but instead what we get is some kind of self-sabotaging jokey thing.

The "souls" as they move into the good place should presumably transcend their human form in some way. But no, everyone who gets to the good place is still locked in a human body with a biological human brain and all of its limitations. They're limited humans in a supernatural space that should be unlimited. How is this a "good place" at all? The good place is boring to an extent that strains credulity—how do none of the characters have the imagination to create anything beyond facsimiles of earth? And why are they still obsessed with tiny dumb earth things when they have access to higher-dimensional knowledge and power? They should be out there or something.

Arriving at the actual good place should come with some baseline level of transcendence or consciousness expansion, but there's really none of that. In this show's worldbuilding, the version of you that's on earth, in the bad place, in limbo, and in the good place are all pretty much the same. That strange choice—deciding that a soul has the limitations of human consciousness—prevents them from depicting a good place that makes any sense.

In fact, I was hoping for a reveal that this was actually another bad place. That's the only way I can make sense of the characters drinking the Flavor Aid and obliterating their souls.

This reddit comment sums it up well:

QuoteThe Soul Squad arrives and fixes the Bad Place by turning it into a rehabilitation center to get people ready for the Good Place where they will learn how to become incredibly bored. To solve that problem they fix the Good Place by adding a door that ends people's existence.

They turned the afterlife into a suicide machine.

And you can't convince me that the soul obliteration door represents enlightenment. All they've done in the good place is run simulations and narrow-mindedly fixate on their relationship with their parents or whatever. Because they're still somehow just dumb humans with flawed motivations and bad priorities.

All in all, cowardly creative choices were made, and it landed with a thud. I could not be more disappointed.


I think I might even regret investing in this show past season 1. The flashes of brilliance kept me going, but a tiring formula emerged — zoom in on character having epiphany, start a new quest, which sort of works but then falls into crisis. Zoom in on character as they realize how to solve the crisis. Repeat... endlessly and aimlessly.
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Robyn

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on October 04, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
I watched Midnight Mass. It was boring enough that I probably fast-forwarded through 1/4 of the show, but I have to say that was a great way to watch it. The premise is a lot of fun, and it pays off gloriously. Definitely worth watching just for a few key scenes/moments.

If you plan on watching it, try to go in knowing NOTHING.

HUGE SPOILER


Spoiler: ShowHide

This was so good. So, so good.


Goddamn Flanagan to make me invested enough that I kept watching even when it got scary.

I liked it more than you and didn't find it boring at all. Some scenes absolutely destroyed me.

wilberfan

These are currently the two shows I most look forward to each week for new episodes.

https://youtu.be/EzrLrUG2QVk

https://youtu.be/rtipQ3EsGWo

polkablues

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on October 04, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
I watched Midnight Mass. It was boring enough that I probably fast-forwarded through 1/4 of the show, but I have to say that was a great way to watch it. The premise is a lot of fun, and it pays off gloriously. Definitely worth watching just for a few key scenes/moments.

It was mostly really good, in the exact same way that all of Flanagan's stuff is mostly really good, but this tweet absolutely nails it:
https://twitter.com/MisterSniffen/status/1452324651653345296
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wilberfan

https://youtu.be/WYSpdaYTW1Y

I really enjoyed this 4-episoder.  Coleman and Thewlis are amazing.  There are some odd stylistic choices that will either work for you or not.  (They worked for me.)

Jeremy Blackman

Twitch streamers have been watching Gordon Ramsay shows for years, so I knew they were eventually going to discover the sublime glossy insanity of MasterChef. That glorious moment arrived in December, with a ton of top streamers binging and obsessing over the show. Currently sort of background watching Hasan's reactions to Season 3, a season I remember quite well even though it was 10 years ago.

I love the analysis of the production meta-game. It's also interesting to see how much casual sexism and racism was on television back then, although it was clearly some kind of tipping point where it's controversial enough to cause a stir but acceptable enough to include in the show. It's also nice to see my crush on Felix Fang validated; Hasan and xQc, and their viewers, all went absolutely out of their minds for her.

Fox Television eventually DMCA'd them, but it's all still on YouTube. Hasan's videos, at least. (I can't stand xQc and honestly don't see the appeal.)
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Robyn

Ah! I watched all MasterChef seasons 4-5 years ago. The Australian version is fun too, although it's a lot more down to earth lol.