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Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Satcho9 on February 11, 2003, 07:43:09 PM
Redirect me if this has been brought up before: But my pick for most overrated movie of the year is Minority Report.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Xixax on February 11, 2003, 07:46:07 PM
I couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.

I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 08:54:24 PM
gangs of new york (juuuuuuuuuuuuuust teasing you cbrad)
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: polkablues on February 11, 2003, 09:07:50 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedgangs of new york (juuuuuuuuuuuuuust teasing you cbrad)

Same answer, minus the cop-out.  And "Road to Perdition" wasn't nearly as good as I had wanted it to be (though it was still decent).
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 09:09:19 PM
cop-out? oh... me feel like a hack
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: RegularKarate on February 11, 2003, 09:34:30 PM
Totally going with Signs here.

Though after reading the nominations, I'd also have to say Chicago.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: MacGuffin on February 11, 2003, 09:48:15 PM
Either "8 Mile" (remember all that Oscar talk for Eminem for Best Actor?) or "Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers".
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 11, 2003, 09:57:55 PM
Road to Perdition
Gangs of New York
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

~rougerum
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: SHAFTR on February 11, 2003, 10:03:30 PM
8 Mile

I saw it when it was called Purple Rain.

and I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate Eminem.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 11, 2003, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: XixaxI couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.

I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".

PDL was maybe overrated on the Cigarettes and Coffee boards, the PTAmb, and here. That's it. Anywhere else on the face of the planet, PDL was completely and totally ignored (cept for the Globes, kind of).
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz

PDL was maybe overrated

BURN HIM!!! BURN HIIIIIIIIIIM!!!!
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 11, 2003, 10:39:02 PM
I said maybe, dammit! Favorite movie of the year, I saw it 4 times in theaters.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 10:41:52 PM
say gangs or signs like the rest of us and all is forgiven
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 11, 2003, 10:42:32 PM
sigh... gangs
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: picolas on February 11, 2003, 10:44:06 PM
:yabbse-sad:
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 10:53:49 PM
whats wrong picolas? you liked gangs?
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 11, 2003, 10:57:50 PM
Just because it was overrated doesn't mean I didn't like it. It just means I didn't think it was good as people said it was. You know what? I've officially stopped posting in this topic. Too much defending of my movie taste.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 11, 2003, 11:14:14 PM
i was talking to picolas
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Newtron on February 12, 2003, 12:58:53 AM
My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: ©brad on February 12, 2003, 03:15:26 AM
The Ring- blah.

I just watched The Bourne Identity last night and I thought it sucked ass, I mean really bad. I was hoping for something decent with Doug Liman, but nope. Terribly acted, directed, written, shot (what's with those establishing shots? I could have done better)- just a bad, dull movie. Even the fucking car chasing scene was dull.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: phil marlowe on February 12, 2003, 06:31:17 AM
Wasn't the ring killed by the critics? It was here in denmark, I haven't seen it though. My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 12, 2003, 06:59:10 AM
cbr, too bad your review of Bourne Identity mirrors the problems with action movies these days in the first place. Try to think John Frankenheimer's old rules of how to do an action movie, being less is more.

~rougerum
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: ©brad on February 12, 2003, 07:24:14 AM
Yeah, I agree.

As for The Ring, I didn't read to much on it, but I am just going on what my friends/classmates say about it. You're right though, in order for a film to be overrated I guess it has to receive very high critical praise and lots of awards and shit, not necessarily be big at the box office, because there are a lot of dumb movies (Bourne Identity) that make money but aren't necessarily overrated.

I thought The English Patient was incredibly overrated.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Satcho9 on February 12, 2003, 12:19:51 PM
Quote"My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.

I whole heartedly agree. SpiderMan was ASS. It was so horrible, I was the only one in the theatre hysterically laughing. It was so bad it made my testicles hurt.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Xixax on February 12, 2003, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: XixaxI couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.

I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".

PDL was maybe overrated on the Cigarettes and Coffee boards, the PTAmb, and here. That's it. Anywhere else on the face of the planet, PDL was completely and totally ignored (cept for the Globes, kind of).
That's the most truthful observation about the movie that I've seen in quite some time.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 12, 2003, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: Satcho9
Quote"My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.

I whole heartedly agree. SpiderMan was ASS. It was so horrible, I was the only one in the theatre hysterically laughing. It was so bad it made my testicles hurt.


You are right, I saw Spiderman yesterday and not only was it as cliche as I expected but it was actually pretty boring. Something about when the non CGI Spiderman and Green Goblin met up looked like something out of Power Rangers,
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: phil marlowe on February 12, 2003, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceGreen Goblin met up looked like something out of Power Rangers,

His laughter made me happy though.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Xixax on February 12, 2003, 03:57:49 PM
A Hershey's kiss to whoever mentioned MBFGW.

Bleh.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 12, 2003, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi was talking to picolas
so was I.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: phil marlowe on February 12, 2003, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazI've officially stopped posting in this topic.

Appearently not.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: bonanzataz on February 12, 2003, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: Phil Marlowe
Quote from: bonanzatazI've officially stopped posting in this topic.

Appearently not.

Ah, bite me.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Cecil on February 12, 2003, 05:32:19 PM
yeah, bite him
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: phil marlowe on February 12, 2003, 05:34:52 PM
It is now done.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Travis Bickle on February 12, 2003, 05:45:25 PM
i 3rd Greek Wedding.
Bleh, Bleh, Bleh
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Xixax on February 12, 2003, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Phil MarloweIt is now done.
You bit Taz?

Was he tasty?
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: phil marlowe on February 12, 2003, 07:14:57 PM
I do only what needs to be done.

And yes, he was a tad nasty.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: MacGuffin on February 25, 2003, 01:36:44 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dI just watched The Bourne Identity last night and I thought it sucked ass, I mean really bad. I was hoping for something decent with Doug Liman, but nope.

Nicole Kidman & Brad Pitt are Mr. and Mrs. Smith

Nicole Kidman and Brad Pitt are in negotiations to star in Regency Enterprises' action-adventure feature Mr. and Mrs. Smith for director Doug Liman, reports The Hollywood Reporter. There is no start date yet for the project written by Simon Kinberg.

The film is described as The War of the Roses meets True Lies. It is about a bored married couple who discover they are enemy assassins hired to kill each other.

Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is producing through his Weed Road Pictures alongside Summit Entertainment topper Patrick Wachsberger.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: USTopGun47 on May 22, 2003, 02:10:25 PM
1)Chicago2)Road to Perdition
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Alethia on May 22, 2003, 02:24:16 PM
spiderman and road to perdition
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Mesh on May 22, 2003, 02:40:10 PM
Igby Goes Down
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pedro on May 22, 2003, 03:08:24 PM
Road to Perdition....


The more I think about it...the more I like chicago for what it is....not an amazing work of genius, but a fun movie to watch with your grandparents...or something
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: godardian on May 22, 2003, 03:18:21 PM
If overrated = ratio of praise to actual worthiness, I'd have to say:

-Chicago
-The Hours
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: SoNowThen on May 22, 2003, 03:32:50 PM
Big Fat Greek...blah blah
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pas on May 22, 2003, 03:34:43 PM
A tie between My Big Fat Greek and Signs
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: USTopGun47 on May 22, 2003, 06:34:34 PM
Does everyone really dislike My Big Fat Greek Wedding that much? I don't know, I kind of enjoyed it...
Title: Re: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pastor Parsley on May 23, 2003, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Satcho9Redirect me if this has been brought up before: But my pick for most overrated movie of the year is Minority Report.

I second That!
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Banky on May 23, 2003, 05:50:16 PM
why the hell is everyone bashing signs.  Its not like it got overwhelming critical praise.  The movie never tried to be something it was not.  It was a good thriller about aliens.  If you want to talk about over rated, how about Ebert saying that Minority Report was "A Masterpeice" and "The Best Movie of The Year"
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on May 24, 2003, 12:15:23 PM
Can we say Matrix???
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pubrick on May 24, 2003, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: punchdrunk23Can we say Matrix???
no.

u can tho. i'll just sit over here and wonder about getting a new mouse mat, even tho i don't need one.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Derek237 on May 24, 2003, 02:34:53 PM
The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: godardian on May 24, 2003, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: Derek237The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...

I picked The Hours as overrated, too, but not because it wasn't a good movie. Just that it was overrated.

I would've assumed that a movie about said suicidal lesbians would've felt a tiny bit more unique or original. That was my main complaint. It was a smooth, solid production overall, but given the sky-high praise, I expected more. Patricia Clarkson was a much cooler suicidal lesbian (and Fassbinderaktor!) in High Art, and ya didn't see that sweeping the awards ceremonies.

I love Michael Cunningham's book, too, and it's not that the movie did the book any great injustice, but... it just wasn't a spectacular movie. It maintained its dignity and wasn't embarrasingly bad by any stretch, but I find those are really the best things I can say about it. It didn't excite me. All the unwarranted excitement renders it overrated, to my mind. It was better than a helluva lot of other movies, but those movies didn't get overpraised like this one.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Ernie on May 24, 2003, 05:34:44 PM
far from heaven
gangs of new york
minority report
spider man (yes, I did used to like it  :oops: )

Gangs was a disappointment only by fault of the ridiculously high Scorsese standards - but I did like it. You know what I fucking loved though? About Schmidt. It grew on my like I don't even know what.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: godardian on May 24, 2003, 05:55:35 PM
Now, I think Far from Heaven deserved every bit of its praise.

And I agree that About Schmidt was one of the very best movies last year. That, Punch-Drunk Love, and Far from Heaven were my top 3.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Ghostboy on May 24, 2003, 08:37:42 PM
You know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Ernie on May 24, 2003, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.

Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pedro on May 24, 2003, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: ebeaman
Quote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.

Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.
Oh the Pianist is that good.  Trust me.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 25, 2003, 12:32:56 AM
Im going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: ProgWRX on May 25, 2003, 10:00:42 AM
i would have to say Chicago, hands down.

I enjoyed it A LOT, but IMO it defines the term OVERRATED.


other previous winners of the term , again IMO, are the Matrix and Fight Club (Ie: movies which *are* solid good movies, but people treat them like the second coming of Film-Christ)
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: modage on May 25, 2003, 11:21:18 PM
i would have to say CHICAGO as well.  liked it, but not THAT much.  you'd think the public had never seen a musical before.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: godardian on May 26, 2003, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Duck SauceIm going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie

I think that it's because, unlike Todd Haynes's other films (which range from very good efforts to absolute breathtaking perfection, in my opinion), it works on both his usual autocritical, highly skeptical, yet never ironic level (the style of the film opposes its content to the extent that the viewer is challenged to at least ponder the how and why of their response) and on a good old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment. It's quite a feat to pull off, because it achieves some of the greatest things that can be achieved in either context, and does it simultaneously and seamlessly. Haynes doesn't look down on his material, he looks at it from the outside; he's always sidestepped the Hollywood/indie binary in this way, and as such is a very singular, very unique cinematic voice. Since the Brechtian alienation effect is so much more subdued in Far from Heaven, lending it more accessibility to more people, it can be considered the most subversive film from one of our more creative, intelligent, and talented makers of subversive film.

I can't claim that any Academy members or newspaper critics had these observations running through their skulls; they're just what occurs to me as a longtime devout Haynes fan for whom Far from Heaven really was one of 2003's best.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: moonshiner on May 26, 2003, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: godardiangood old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment.

Far From Heaven was far from plot-driven, I thank you.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: godardian on May 27, 2003, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: moonshiner
Quote from: godardiangood old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment.

Far From Heaven was far from plot-driven, I thank you.

I never said it was. I said that it could just as easily be taken for that as for everything else that's going on. Did you even read/understand my whole post...? It certainly wasn't my intention to be reductive. Quite the opposite. I loved the film for everything it was, which (to me) was, indeed, a lot more than plot-driven. But if you were looking for something accessible, there's quite an overload of linear, one-event-leading-to-the next there (especially compared to Haynes's other films), which can be seen as deceptive. Or not.
Title: Most overrated movie ....
Post by: frycookonvenus on May 29, 2003, 08:54:24 PM
was Chicago.  too much pizazz and glitz and glamour and nonsense.  Too much Chicago.  Just too much.
Punch Drunk Love, however, was one of my favorites...
Didn't see 8Mile, but i DID see Malibu's Most Wanted.  If someone said that movie sucked, that would be hyping it up.  Horrible.  Simply horrible.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: snaporaz on May 30, 2003, 01:27:21 AM
i guess i'm alone in thinking that minority report is, in fact, a masterpiece. well, me and ebert. and believe me, i am hardly a hollywood-blockbuster lover, but goddamn did that movie fucking rock.

maybe it can't be taken too seriously just because it's an action movie.  :?
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 30, 2003, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: snaporazminority report is, in fact, a masterpiece

Except for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: snaporaz on May 30, 2003, 01:37:08 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: snaporazminority report is, in fact, a masterpiece

Except for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...

haha, yeah i suppose. but the previous two hours totally make up for those last two minutes.

but seriously, that flick was just filmmaking perfection. if a similar story had been made into a film fifty years ago under comparable direction, i'm sure it would be one of the all-time classics.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Pubrick on May 30, 2003, 01:38:23 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanExcept for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...
i'll agree that Saving Private Ryan didn't need that, but AI and MR are ekzellent uses of em, just cos he ties everything up nicely.. i can believe that. u know, that's what he does best.
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: Alethia on May 30, 2003, 10:49:14 AM
i think its a masterpeice as well.  and im also kinda thinking that if spielberg hadnt directed it and the ending was still the same - would people be bitching about it as much?  maybe, maybe not, i dunno
Title: Most Overrated Movie of the Year
Post by: ProgWRX on May 30, 2003, 11:46:27 AM
the ending in an "up" note IMO was totally appropriate, it balances out the grim and cold rest of the movie well.