Redirect me if this has been brought up before: But my pick for most overrated movie of the year is Minority Report.
I couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.
I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".
gangs of new york (juuuuuuuuuuuuuust teasing you cbrad)
Quote from: cecil b. dementedgangs of new york (juuuuuuuuuuuuuust teasing you cbrad)
Same answer, minus the cop-out. And "Road to Perdition" wasn't nearly as good as I had wanted it to be (though it was still decent).
cop-out? oh... me feel like a hack
Totally going with Signs here.
Though after reading the nominations, I'd also have to say Chicago.
Either "8 Mile" (remember all that Oscar talk for Eminem for Best Actor?) or "Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers".
Road to Perdition
Gangs of New York
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
~rougerum
8 Mile
I saw it when it was called Purple Rain.
and I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate Eminem.
Quote from: XixaxI couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.
I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".
PDL was maybe overrated on the Cigarettes and Coffee boards, the PTAmb, and here. That's it. Anywhere else on the face of the planet, PDL was completely and totally ignored (cept for the Globes, kind of).
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PDL was maybe overrated
BURN HIM!!! BURN HIIIIIIIIIIM!!!!
I said maybe, dammit! Favorite movie of the year, I saw it 4 times in theaters.
say gangs or signs like the rest of us and all is forgiven
sigh... gangs
:yabbse-sad:
whats wrong picolas? you liked gangs?
Just because it was overrated doesn't mean I didn't like it. It just means I didn't think it was good as people said it was. You know what? I've officially stopped posting in this topic. Too much defending of my movie taste.
i was talking to picolas
My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
The Ring- blah.
I just watched The Bourne Identity last night and I thought it sucked ass, I mean really bad. I was hoping for something decent with Doug Liman, but nope. Terribly acted, directed, written, shot (what's with those establishing shots? I could have done better)- just a bad, dull movie. Even the fucking car chasing scene was dull.
Wasn't the ring killed by the critics? It was here in denmark, I haven't seen it though. My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.
cbr, too bad your review of Bourne Identity mirrors the problems with action movies these days in the first place. Try to think John Frankenheimer's old rules of how to do an action movie, being less is more.
~rougerum
Yeah, I agree.
As for The Ring, I didn't read to much on it, but I am just going on what my friends/classmates say about it. You're right though, in order for a film to be overrated I guess it has to receive very high critical praise and lots of awards and shit, not necessarily be big at the box office, because there are a lot of dumb movies (Bourne Identity) that make money but aren't necessarily overrated.
I thought The English Patient was incredibly overrated.
Quote"My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.
I whole heartedly agree. SpiderMan was ASS. It was so horrible, I was the only one in the theatre hysterically laughing. It was so bad it made my testicles hurt.
Quote from: bonanzatazQuote from: XixaxI couldn't DISagree more. Minority Report rocked.
I would get crucified if I muttered the words "Punch Drunk Love", so I will instead say something safe like "Signs".
PDL was maybe overrated on the Cigarettes and Coffee boards, the PTAmb, and here. That's it. Anywhere else on the face of the planet, PDL was completely and totally ignored (cept for the Globes, kind of).
That's the most truthful observation about the movie that I've seen in quite some time.
Quote from: Satcho9Quote"My vote goes to Spiderman wich got waaaay too many thumbs up.
I whole heartedly agree. SpiderMan was ASS. It was so horrible, I was the only one in the theatre hysterically laughing. It was so bad it made my testicles hurt.
You are right, I saw Spiderman yesterday and not only was it as cliche as I expected but it was actually pretty boring. Something about when the non CGI Spiderman and Green Goblin met up looked like something out of Power Rangers,
Quote from: Duck SauceGreen Goblin met up looked like something out of Power Rangers,
His laughter made me happy though.
A Hershey's kiss to whoever mentioned MBFGW.
Bleh.
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi was talking to picolas
so was I.
Quote from: bonanzatazI've officially stopped posting in this topic.
Appearently not.
Quote from: Phil MarloweQuote from: bonanzatazI've officially stopped posting in this topic.
Appearently not.
Ah, bite me.
yeah, bite him
It is now done.
i 3rd Greek Wedding.
Bleh, Bleh, Bleh
Quote from: Phil MarloweIt is now done.
You bit Taz?
Was he tasty?
I do only what needs to be done.
And yes, he was a tad nasty.
Quote from: cbrad4dI just watched The Bourne Identity last night and I thought it sucked ass, I mean really bad. I was hoping for something decent with Doug Liman, but nope.
Nicole Kidman & Brad Pitt are Mr. and Mrs. Smith Nicole Kidman and Brad Pitt are in negotiations to star in Regency Enterprises' action-adventure feature Mr. and Mrs. Smith for director Doug Liman, reports The Hollywood Reporter. There is no start date yet for the project written by Simon Kinberg.
The film is described as The War of the Roses meets True Lies. It is about a bored married couple who discover they are enemy assassins hired to kill each other.
Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is producing through his Weed Road Pictures alongside Summit Entertainment topper Patrick Wachsberger.
1)Chicago2)Road to Perdition
spiderman and road to perdition
Igby Goes Down
Road to Perdition....
The more I think about it...the more I like chicago for what it is....not an amazing work of genius, but a fun movie to watch with your grandparents...or something
If overrated = ratio of praise to actual worthiness, I'd have to say:
-Chicago
-The Hours
Big Fat Greek...blah blah
A tie between My Big Fat Greek and Signs
Does everyone really dislike My Big Fat Greek Wedding that much? I don't know, I kind of enjoyed it...
Quote from: Satcho9Redirect me if this has been brought up before: But my pick for most overrated movie of the year is Minority Report.
I second That!
why the hell is everyone bashing signs. Its not like it got overwhelming critical praise. The movie never tried to be something it was not. It was a good thriller about aliens. If you want to talk about over rated, how about Ebert saying that Minority Report was "A Masterpeice" and "The Best Movie of The Year"
Can we say Matrix???
Quote from: punchdrunk23Can we say Matrix???
no.
u can tho. i'll just sit over here and wonder about getting a new mouse mat, even tho i don't need one.
The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...
Quote from: Derek237The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...
I picked
The Hours as overrated, too, but not because it wasn't a good movie. Just that it was overrated.
I would've assumed that a movie about said suicidal lesbians would've felt a tiny bit more unique or original. That was my main complaint. It was a smooth, solid production overall, but given the sky-high praise, I expected more. Patricia Clarkson was a much cooler suicidal lesbian (and Fassbinderaktor!) in
High Art, and ya didn't see that sweeping the awards ceremonies.
I love Michael Cunningham's book, too, and it's not that the movie did the book any great injustice, but... it just wasn't a spectacular movie. It maintained its dignity and wasn't embarrasingly bad by any stretch, but I find those are really the best things I can say about it. It didn't excite me. All the unwarranted excitement renders it overrated, to my mind. It was better than a helluva lot of other movies, but those movies didn't get overpraised like this one.
far from heaven
gangs of new york
minority report
spider man (yes, I did used to like it :oops: )
Gangs was a disappointment only by fault of the ridiculously high Scorsese standards - but I did like it. You know what I fucking loved though? About Schmidt. It grew on my like I don't even know what.
Now, I think Far from Heaven deserved every bit of its praise.
And I agree that About Schmidt was one of the very best movies last year. That, Punch-Drunk Love, and Far from Heaven were my top 3.
You know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.
Quote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.
Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.
Quote from: ebeamanQuote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.
Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.
Oh the Pianist is that good. Trust me.
Im going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie
i would have to say Chicago, hands down.
I enjoyed it A LOT, but IMO it defines the term OVERRATED.
other previous winners of the term , again IMO, are the Matrix and Fight Club (Ie: movies which *are* solid good movies, but people treat them like the second coming of Film-Christ)
i would have to say CHICAGO as well. liked it, but not THAT much. you'd think the public had never seen a musical before.
Quote from: Duck SauceIm going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie
I think that it's because, unlike Todd Haynes's other films (which range from very good efforts to absolute breathtaking perfection, in my opinion), it works on both his usual autocritical, highly skeptical, yet never ironic level (the style of the film opposes its content to the extent that the viewer is challenged to at least ponder the how and why of their response) and on a good old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment. It's quite a feat to pull off, because it achieves some of the greatest things that can be achieved in either context, and does it simultaneously and seamlessly. Haynes doesn't look down on his material, he looks at it from the outside; he's always sidestepped the Hollywood/indie binary in this way, and as such is a very singular, very unique cinematic voice. Since the Brechtian alienation effect is so much more subdued in
Far from Heaven, lending it more accessibility to more people, it can be considered the most subversive film from one of our more creative, intelligent, and talented makers of subversive film.
I can't claim that any Academy members or newspaper critics had these observations running through their skulls; they're just what occurs to me as a longtime devout Haynes fan for whom
Far from Heaven really was one of 2003's best.
Quote from: godardiangood old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment.
Far From Heaven was far from plot-driven, I thank you.
Quote from: moonshinerQuote from: godardiangood old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment.
Far From Heaven was far from plot-driven, I thank you.
I never said it was. I said that it could just as easily be taken for that as for everything else that's going on. Did you even read/understand my whole post...? It certainly wasn't my intention to be reductive. Quite the opposite. I loved the film for everything it was, which (to me) was, indeed, a lot more than plot-driven. But if you were looking for something accessible, there's quite an overload of linear, one-event-leading-to-the next there (especially compared to Haynes's other films), which can be seen as deceptive. Or not.
was Chicago. too much pizazz and glitz and glamour and nonsense. Too much Chicago. Just too much.
Punch Drunk Love, however, was one of my favorites...
Didn't see 8Mile, but i DID see Malibu's Most Wanted. If someone said that movie sucked, that would be hyping it up. Horrible. Simply horrible.
i guess i'm alone in thinking that minority report is, in fact, a masterpiece. well, me and ebert. and believe me, i am hardly a hollywood-blockbuster lover, but goddamn did that movie fucking rock.
maybe it can't be taken too seriously just because it's an action movie. :?
Quote from: snaporazminority report is, in fact, a masterpiece
Except for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: snaporazminority report is, in fact, a masterpiece
Except for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...
haha, yeah i suppose. but the previous two hours totally make up for those last two minutes.
but seriously, that flick was just filmmaking perfection. if a similar story had been made into a film fifty years ago under comparable direction, i'm sure it would be one of the all-time classics.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanExcept for the signature Spielberg sellout ending...
i'll agree that Saving Private Ryan didn't need that, but AI and MR are ekzellent uses of em, just cos he ties everything up nicely.. i can believe that. u know, that's what he does best.
i think its a masterpeice as well. and im also kinda thinking that if spielberg hadnt directed it and the ending was still the same - would people be bitching about it as much? maybe, maybe not, i dunno
the ending in an "up" note IMO was totally appropriate, it balances out the grim and cold rest of the movie well.