name the most obscure movie you have seen

Started by pete, April 19, 2004, 10:06:13 PM

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SHAFTR

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jasper_window

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pornos don't count.

Ghostboy

Seeing 'I'm Not Scared' last night reminded me of a perfect entry for this thread: an earlie nineties pastoral gothic called 'The Reflecting Skin.'



I remember picking it up in high school because I had just recently become a Lynch freak, and the box had a quote from Ebert saying 'comparable to Lynch's Blue Velvet, but better' or something like that (of course, I knew where Ebert stood on Blue Velvet, so I took that with a grain of salt -- but it was enough to get me to rent it).

It came out in the early nineties, and Viggo Mortensen was in it. It's one of those lyrically disturbing coming of age movies; I don't remember the plot completely, but I remember loving the scenario in which the boy finds a mummified stillborn baby in a box in his family's barn and adopting the little fellow as his friend. Overall, I didn't think it was too great, but there was definitely some memorable material in it, and I'd like to see it again.

RegularKarate

Yeah.. I remember that one... I rented it for the exact same reason.  

had some good cinematography from what I remember.  Also kind of remember it being weird for the sake of weird.

MacGuffin

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Skeleton FilmWorks

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Only a highly respected actor with a great and varied career like Mandy Patinkin's could get away with having the first name "Mandy."

That's all.

Alethia


Pubrick

Quote from: ebeamanHe's the one that made the film, "Elephant" that Van Sant remade as the Columbine film.
he didn't remake it, he just stole the title.
under the paving stones.

Ernie

Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: ebeamanHe's the one that made the film, "Elephant" that Van Sant remade as the Columbine film.
he didn't remake it, he just stole the title.

It's listed as a remake on IMDB and Van Sant himself has called it a remake of sorts. Or more like a loose remake. The ample tracking shots and the lack of an explanation for violence is really what ties them together I've been told.

SoNowThen

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Godard's "Hail Mary". I don't think it was ever widely distributed on VHS. And that sucks cause it rocks. I bet a lot of Godard fans would dig it.

"Out of the Blue", Dennis Hopper's big followup to "Easy Rider". I think it's out of print on DVD. It's another shamed gem...10 times better than "Easy Rider" imo. It shouldn't be so overlooked.

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Hail Mary isn't obscure. But it is great!!! Sadly enough, it's one of the more "seen" later Godards just cos they sold it on the controversy (my box has this stupid red stamp that advertises it as BANNED --- ooh  :) ).

Also, Hopper's follow-up to Easy Rider was The Last Movie.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

doja


Alethia

keep your right up

not terribly obscure but since they were talking later godard i figured i'd throw it in

LostEraser

Quote from: peteI ate with Jon Jost last year when he came by my school to screen his latest works.  He's a very cynical but friendly fella.

He's probably cynical because none of his films ever get any attention. lol!

I've seen Angel City. Great film. I guess it probably is the most "obscure" Jon Jost film.

I don't know what the most obscure film I've efver seen would be. Maybe Begotten. Or Forbidden Zone.

What school do you go to that Jon Jost came to anyways? Was it BU? Isn't that where Ray Carney teaches? Probably so if Jon Jost came there. Then they could be bitter together there. lol! They're both genius's though.
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Pubrick

Quote from: ebeamanIt's listed as a remake on IMDB and Van Sant himself has called it a remake of sorts. Or more like a loose remake. The ample tracking shots and the lack of an explanation for violence is really what ties them together I've been told.
yeah, it was an influence.
under the paving stones.

pete

it was at Emerson.  He showed his latest work "Six Easy Pieces."  Six shorts he shot on miniDV.  He doesn't believe in film anymore, thinks DV is much cleaner for some reason.  He's also sick of using other people's money to make his film.  He's sick of hollywood making the same movies over and over, and he's sick of experimental filmmakers recycling the same avant-garde crap from years ago.  

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Quote from: peteI ate with Jon Jost last year when he came by my school to screen his latest works.  He's a very cynical but friendly fella.

He's probably cynical because none of his films ever get any attention. lol!

I've seen Angel City. Great film. I guess it probably is the most "obscure" Jon Jost film.

I don't know what the most obscure film I've efver seen would be. Maybe Begotten. Or Forbidden Zone.

What school do you go to that Jon Jost came to anyways? Was it BU? Isn't that where Ray Carney teaches? Probably so if Jon Jost came there. Then they could be bitter together there. lol! They're both genius's though.
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