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Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Spike on May 09, 2003, 02:02:32 AM
Yesterday I saw "Bottle Rocket" one more time and it's become time by time better. I just love this film!
What do you think about "Bottle Rocket"?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ben on May 09, 2003, 03:11:49 AM
Yeah. Bottle Rocket is a very impressive first full feature for Wes Anderson, and Dignan is one of the best characters EVERY created.

Truly a great film. It ended too early for me.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: MacGuffin on May 09, 2003, 03:18:29 AM
Watch the original 13 minute short here. (http://www.wilson-brothers.com/luke/multimedia/movie-clips/bottlerocket.rm)
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Keener on May 09, 2003, 05:37:32 PM
I really love Dignan. Such a great character. This was a mighty fine movie and you're right - it really does get better time after time.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on May 09, 2003, 06:47:16 PM
Dignan has to be high in the running for most quotable character, too.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: meatwad on May 09, 2003, 08:51:56 PM
wes anderson should have hailed as a genius when this was made. Instead all these assholes had to wait till he made Rushmore, in my opinion one of the best films of all time, to figure out he is greatness.

My only problem with Bottle Rocket is i think the soundtrack could have been better. I like the Rolling Stones song and all, i just think Mark Mothersbaugh's score could have been better. His work on Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums is ten times better




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Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Recce on May 09, 2003, 11:12:36 PM
I just found the style of Bottle Rockets and "Rushmore", "Royal Tennenbaums", are completely different. I wonder what made him decide to go that way with his next two films.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Teddy on May 09, 2003, 11:35:01 PM
I've never seen it, but I really need to.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: DavTMcGowan on May 09, 2003, 11:41:28 PM
uh, that was a stop sign...
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on May 10, 2003, 05:05:07 AM
Quote from: MeatwadI like the Rolling Stones song and all, i just think Mark Mothersbaugh's score could have been better. His work on Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums is ten times better

That piece of music as Dignan walks away back into prison in the slow motion shot is brilliant though.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: bonanzataz on May 10, 2003, 06:17:57 PM
didn't mtv give wes the best new director award at the movie awards when this came out? i remember really wanting to see it when it first came out but no theaters near me were playing it and i never got to see the whole thing until last year.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ben on May 12, 2003, 02:27:33 AM
Quote from: bonanzatazdidn't mtv give wes the best new director award at the movie awards when this came out? i remember really wanting to see it when it first came out but no theaters near me were playing it and i never got to see the whole thing until last year.

yup...he got like the "best breakthrough" director back when bottle rocket was released.

you should definetly check it out. all the characters are so colorful in personality.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 19, 2003, 01:12:14 PM
Quote from: caraxis the dvd worth buying or is there gonna be a criterion release?

I dont think that is going to happen, it seems like an internet rumor that gained credibility somehow.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: sphinx on May 19, 2003, 01:40:05 PM
ultimately it's come down to a rights issue.  there was this very popular train story on the criterion boards, and it went like this

a guy was on a train, and sitting across from him were three people wearing criterion and janus films swag, hats, jackets, etc.  he asked them if they were from criterion, and they said indeed they were.  he asked them several questions, one of which being 'is schizopolis going to be released?', to which the criterions said 'we are considering it'.  he also asked if bottle rocket was going to be released, the criterions said 'no, it's a right issue and we can't get it sorted out'.

this is a very good chance this story is complete bullshit because

a.) this story takes place about a month ago, and schizopolis was already on criterion's confirmed schedule, which means that either the criterions were rather ignorant of their schedule or our storyteller hasn't done his homework
b.) why would people who work at criterion wear a wardrobe completely adorned with criterion logos?  it might be nice to have a criterion hat, t-shirt, or chocolate bar, but i doubt they would be completly dressed in such clothes

so bottle rocket is still up in the air, it may fall into a criterion safety net or simply hit the cement and shatter
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: sphinx on May 19, 2003, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: sphinxthere was this very popular train story on the criterion boards, and it went like this

there was a fellow who claimed he went on a train and met criterions, it wasn't i
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on July 23, 2003, 06:59:32 AM
I saw this movie this sunday on TV for the first time... can't tell you how much I've waited to see the damn movie. My thougts..... simple: brilliant. Great directing, great shots, great characters, performances, dialogue, timing, soundtrack (I can't get over "Alone Again Or"), great costume design and of course, Kumar  :-D

I would also like to say, by the way, that I think Luke Wilson doesnt get all the attention he deserves. He's an amazing actor and while people seem fast in recognizing (and rightfully so) the genious of Wes and Owen, they seem to forget Luke..... those bastards!!
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Ghostboy on July 23, 2003, 09:53:44 AM
That's cause he keeps playing such a boring pansy in movies like Alex & Emma (and the sequels to Legally Blonde and Charlies Angels, in which he plays the same character, I think). At least in Owen's sell-out films, he still acts stoned and goofy. I love Luke, but have grown weary with seeing him in most films that aren't directed by Wes.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: jokerspath on July 23, 2003, 09:58:25 AM
I find him to be a charming son of a bitch...

aw
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on July 26, 2003, 12:47:10 AM
can't wait to see the movie Luke is supposedly directing. He may be working in dumb movies for the groundlings and to keep up his skills, but at least he's sophisticating himself within the realm of the motion picture. Bottle Rocket is my favorite.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on August 14, 2003, 10:57:32 PM
i think i saw TRT first in the theater........then BR........then Rushmore

i'm not sure if i had ever laughed so much in a theater when seeing TRT.

then my roommate rented BR. i didn't like it.

later i decided to rent Rushmore and loved it. played the Nothing in This World & I Am Waiting scenes a million times over.

rented BR again and still didn't like it.

i guess that was a year ago. i didn't really remember anything about BR, so i decided to give it another chance.........and i fell in love!

great, great stuff...........i ended up watching it 4 times while i had it...........i watched a kinda jumpy VHS copy..........does Widescreen add a lot to the framing.....etc?

i really want to see it in Widescreen DVD format, but can't find that to rent. i hate to buy it since it recently went down in price.......maybe the possibility of re-release?.........i would be happy simply with the film, the trailer and the orig. short.......but of course commentary would be nice
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Gamblour. on August 14, 2003, 11:24:33 PM
Royal Tenenbaums, I liked it. Rushmore, I didn't really like it. I dunno why, I wish I could, but I can't. But I love Bottle Rocket, definitely my favorite. Too bad Criterion doesn't sell it.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Crash on September 21, 2003, 07:46:39 PM
i just saw the 13 minute movie by wes anderson (bottlerocket). i loved it so frikin' much! especially at the end where they race! that's serious comdey right there! anyway, yeah wes is seriously one of the most innocent directors out there. what a genius!
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Spike on September 30, 2003, 03:27:12 PM
I finished watching "Bottle Rocket" once more! Godamn, this movie is getting time by time better! Now I think it's my favourite film by Wes.
The chase at the end is fucking great, the music's amazing: "Oh, Daddy!..."

"BOB STOLE HIS CAR!!!"

"YOU'RE ALWAYS OUT OF THIS BUILDING!" - "NO, NOT ALWAYS!" - "YES, ALWAYS!!!"

Dignan is one of the coolest film characters in film history!
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 30, 2003, 06:08:30 PM
yeah, the use of 2000 Man is great.
i just bought Between the Buttons and Her Satanic Majesties Request last week for the songs off of BR and TRT.

i guess the Stones don't let you put their tracks on Soundtracks. that's a shame because WEs really knows how to use them!
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: modage on September 30, 2003, 06:14:22 PM
they do. it probably just costs a fortune.

BLOW (cant you hear me knocking)
MOONLIGHT MILE (moonlight mile)

both have the songs on the soundtracks.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: coffeebeetle on October 01, 2003, 05:10:05 PM
Quotei guess the Stones don't let you put their tracks on Soundtracks.

Yeah man, that pissed me off too.  The same with The Big Chill...but I guess "you can't always get what you want.." :P
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: bonanzataz on October 01, 2003, 06:42:33 PM
yeah, but i hear to actually use one of their songs in a movie isn't as expensive as you'd think.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: kotte on November 10, 2003, 05:49:49 PM
I can't get to the wilson brothers website...you where else I can get my hands on the short?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 10, 2003, 06:10:06 PM
Quote from: taz.yeah, but i hear to actually use one of their songs in a movie isn't as expensive as you'd think.

Wes said the if they didn't get studio backup (you know, with James L. Brooks producing and all), they wouldn't have been able to afford the Stones on the soundtrack.

Quote from: kotteI can't get to the wilson brothers website...you where else I can get my hands on the short?

I think the media section of www.wesanderson.org has it too.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: kotte on November 10, 2003, 06:16:28 PM
Great! Thanks!

EDIT: ah crap...that one was linked to the wilson page...and that's apparently "forbidden"...fuck
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 10, 2003, 06:22:49 PM
Uoopsy.... sorry. I watched long ago and didn't know it is now "forbidden". And why the fuck is it forbidden anyway?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: kotte on November 10, 2003, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: RoyalTenenbaumUoopsy.... sorry. I watched long ago and didn't know it is now "forbidden". And why the fuck is it forbidden anyway?

Have no idea...can't fuckin' wait to see it and this crappy website's teasing me... :evil:
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 10, 2003, 06:25:45 PM
Fuck the site. Fuck Wilson Brothers!!!

Eheheh...... no no no. No fucking the Wilson brothers 'cause they rule. When they work with Wes anyway...
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on March 11, 2004, 09:00:50 AM
http://pub58.ezboard.com/fyankeeracers33503frm6.showMessage?topicID=152.topic

Quotea friend of mine is in the preocess of doing the subtitles for a BR dvd release in the US. One can only imagine this is for a new special edition
Totally unsubstantiated but still. The Region 2 has a picture from Bottle Rocket on the back cover that I've never seen before of Anthony, Dignen and Bob sat facing camera in a diner. (This one: http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/thewilsons/BR_gang2.jpg). There are some links to other excellent quality stills, which seem to be coming from the Wilson Brothers site. Many of which say to me: "Deleted Scene"?

And from a user on the same Message Board, a location tour of the Motel in the film.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/zagoraz/29532.html
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on March 31, 2004, 01:37:42 PM
Bottle Rocket and Bottle Rocket original short film screening in NYC.

http://www.theonion.com/filmseries/
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Dottie_Hinkle on April 19, 2004, 09:03:31 AM
Bottle Rocket has a great soundtrack!!  One of the funniest flicks ever..
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on September 05, 2004, 10:23:45 AM
http://www.lawnwranglers.com/bottlerocket/video.html

The long trailer at the bottom of that page, reveals that there are quite a few deleted scenes. The one of most note being some kind of escape from the police after the book-store job. The remaining evidence of that scene in the final cut can be seen in the form of a blue and red flashing light from a police car, behind Dignen as he celebrates with Bob and Anthony.

There is also some kind of musical number from Bob.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: picolas on September 05, 2004, 06:21:52 PM
shows how trailers for wes anderson movies aren't as good as wes anderson movies.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: pete on September 05, 2004, 06:24:49 PM
I had a friend in NYU who had Wes coming to his class, and apparently Wes didn't have that much control over this movie.  James L. Brooks was the big daddy on the set.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 06, 2004, 01:19:26 AM
Quote from: ®edlumhttp://www.lawnwranglers.com/bottlerocket/video.html

The long trailer at the bottom of that page, reveals that there are quite a few deleted scenes. The one of most note being some kind of escape from the police after the book-store job. The remaining evidence of that scene in the final cut can be seen in the form of a blue and red flashing light from a police car, behind Dignen as he celebrates with Bob and Anthony.

There is also some kind of musical number from Bob.

that's the police finding his brother's pot, right?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on September 06, 2004, 05:21:00 AM
Ooh yeah, although I don't think so because otherwise it wouldn't be a suprise to Bob to later find that his brother has been arrested. Unless they just assume its for the book-store job and that's the runaway scene, which then leads the police to the find the crop.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 06, 2004, 11:15:33 AM
they're only shown at home for a brief time after the robbery, but that scene in the trailer where they're running is in daylight, i think.
i'll see if i've got the screenplay on my computer somewhere.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: MacGuffin on September 06, 2004, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: bigideasi'll see if i've got the screenplay on my computer somewhere.

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/bottlerocket.html
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on September 06, 2004, 12:20:30 PM
It's definately at night.

Ah cheers for the link, Mac. That stuff's pretty funny...although I can understand why they cut it.

There's some gems in there, though. I hope they filmed it all just so I can hear the lines delivered...someday.

"In fifth grade Dignan used to wear cowboy boots for P.E."

----

                  DIGNAN
           Armored trucks are very difficult
           to steal, Anthony.

                        ANTHONY
           I know. But once you get inside
           you're home free.

                        DIGNAN
           Right.. Get back to me on that one.
           Once your plan is worth a shit.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 06, 2004, 10:12:23 PM
i just found the trailer, it's definitely at night. it's quite odd, in my mind i had made it daytime......hmmmmm.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: hedwig on September 26, 2004, 01:34:09 PM
i recently decided that Bottle Rocket has the best soundtrack of all the wes anderson films. Except, of course, for Life Aquatic....























.... with Steve Zissou
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: hedwig on September 26, 2004, 08:51:05 PM
I just read the script (parts of it, at least) and, wow, the last scene is so well-written:


Bob and Anthony slowly half-smile. They wave to Dignan as
the line of inmates turns away. Anthony looks to Bob. Bob
smiles.

The line of inmates stops about fifty feet away. Dignan
looks back. Anthony looks at him. Dignan's expression has
changed. He wasn't expecting them to see it. His eyes look
cold. Anthony puts his hand on the fence. Dignan turns and
the line of inmates disappears into the cell block.

Anthony stands there in silence.. He lets go of the fence.

He walks with Bob down the long path in the cold air.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on September 27, 2004, 04:08:40 AM
Oh boy. Thats great. One of my favourite endings of all time.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: coffeebeetle on September 27, 2004, 06:36:29 PM
Seriously. Whew.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: hedwig on September 28, 2004, 10:36:18 PM
Quote from: ®edlumOh boy. Thats great. One of my favourite endings of all time.

Same, and although the sharp cuts at the end of Rushmore and TRT, I think the fade works nicely at the end of Bottle Rocket.

And the description of his eyes being "cold" in the last scene makes me look at it a bit differently than I used to.

Beautiful.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on November 17, 2004, 10:53:55 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115734/goofs

i told them about the 5th one down a few months ago and i just remembered to check.

i made the imdb.........sorta :roll:
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: KingBlackDeath on December 19, 2004, 05:24:21 PM
he said he was going to use that 'billy the kid' song that he uses in tenenbaums at the end of bottle rocket but couldn't get the money for it and when I heard that it all made sense because I loved the ending but the music pretty much ruined it for me cause it's like this coyote thing and all eerie (which I feel doesn't fit) instead of sort of bittersweet like that 'billy the kid' track is and I wish to god he could have used that song instead cause it would have been so much better, at least in my opinion
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on December 19, 2004, 09:04:35 PM
billy the kid song?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Myxo on December 20, 2004, 01:39:44 AM
I've still never seen this and people tell me it's really good. Am I in denial? Someone help!
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: picolas on December 20, 2004, 01:51:11 AM
Quote from: MyxomatosisI've still never seen this and people tell me it's really good. Am I in denial? Someone help!
are you denying something?
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Myxo on December 20, 2004, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: picolas
Quote from: MyxomatosisI've still never seen this and people tell me it's really good. Am I in denial? Someone help!
are you denying something?

I think I'm denying that it might really be good and therefor watching other things before this..
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: cine on December 20, 2004, 03:38:08 AM
Quote from: MyxomatosisSomeone help!
RENT THE DAMN MOVIE.


Consider yourself helped.
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Myxo on December 20, 2004, 04:10:21 AM
Quote from: cinephile
Quote from: MyxomatosisSomeone help!
RENT THE DAMN MOVIE.


Consider yourself helped.

I just might..
Title: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on May 18, 2005, 12:15:24 PM
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Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on April 14, 2006, 06:42:11 AM
The making of Bottle Rocket (from the above DVD) and other treats available here:
http://www.littlebanana.com/videos/index.htm
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Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: noyes on April 21, 2006, 12:05:37 PM
Bottle Rocket Short on YouTube.
if this has been posted, fuck it. i didn't see it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HV9fLUAbaO4&search=wes%20anderson
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 21, 2006, 12:42:48 PM
Can we please stop posting things in this thread until they announce a Criterion release date?
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Pubrick on April 22, 2006, 01:04:47 AM
Quote from: noyes on April 21, 2006, 12:05:37 PM
Bottle Rocket Short on YouTube.
if this has been posted, fuck it. i didn't see it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HV9fLUAbaO4&search=wes%20anderson
it's available to download through the link right above you.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: noyes on April 26, 2006, 05:31:38 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on April 22, 2006, 01:04:47 AM
Quote from: noyes on April 21, 2006, 12:05:37 PM
Bottle Rocket Short on YouTube.
if this has been posted, fuck it. i didn't see it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HV9fLUAbaO4&search=wes%20anderson
it's available to download through the link right above you.

thanks pubrick.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on July 30, 2007, 05:17:30 PM
In light of all the Darjeeling excitement I headed on over to the Rushmore Academy. Before long I was in the Bottle Rocket section (of course) and found the following article.

If I Can Dream (http://www.rushmoreacademy.com/index.php/1999/01/01/if-i-can-dream-archive/)
The Everlasting Boyhoods of Wes Anderson
From the Lawnwranglers.com Archive
Film Comment, January/February 1999
by Mark Olsen

I still think Bottle Rocket is his best film. Mainly because I can relate to it the most but also because it's the least self-conscious of his films. Unlike his following three films there are no Season/Chapter/Log headings, which are exemplary of tableau-like staging of Wes's shots and narrative since Bottle Rocket. BR is proof that the absence of these meticulous indulgences (which for some I know are getting a little tired) is not detrimental to Wes's uniqeuness as an auteur.

As in Bottle Rocket there will be three central characters on a journey in The Darjeeling Limited. I also sense a pivotal love interest like Inez. With these things in mind and the fact that everyone is wondering after The Life Aquatic where Wes is headed as a filmmaker - I'm hoping there's some more of Bottle Rocket in there.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on July 30, 2007, 08:28:16 PM
i have never seen the huge difference in TLA from the rest of his catalog and have never understood how someone could like the previous 3 films and not like TLA. the last 3 are the most similiar with BR being different for the reasons you stated above, so i could see someone liking BR, and not as fond of the other 3.

if anything, i think he used most of the same people with the first 4 (have not fact checked this), but has some changes on Darjeeling. i know Yeoman is still with him, but Mothersbaugh is not. new co-writers. haven't gone as far as costuming/editing, etc.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on August 20, 2007, 10:01:06 PM
Quote from: ...and the Deathly Sparrow on April 21, 2006, 12:42:48 PM
Can we please stop posting things in this thread until they announce a Criterion release date?

maybe???

From the Criterion Forum:


Not to get people's hopes up or anything, but the latest (6.12.07) New York Times TimesTalks podcast is an hour long interview with Luke and Andrew Wilson. During the audience Q&A section at the end, they are asked about a Bottle Rocket special edition DVD and Luke says "We just heard last week that I think they're going to do one of those Criterion versions of it. I don't know if that's true, but we did hear that." (this is at the 55:10 mark)


URLS:
http://www.criterionforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2562
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/multimedia/podcasts.html
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: modage on September 08, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
not the release date but further confirmation!

on ebert and roeper, guest critic robert wolinsky mentions that criterion owns the north american rights to put this out on dvd and pleads with them to speed up the release.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on September 08, 2007, 07:35:11 PM
Ha, I really did think Modage posted in this thread with a release date...  :oops:
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 08, 2007, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: modage on September 08, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
not the release date but further confirmation!

on ebert and roeper, guest critic robert wolinsky mentions that criterion owns the north american rights to put this out on dvd and pleads with them to speed up the release.

how did Bottle Rocket even come up in conversation?

(i still can't find out when this show comes on...)
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: hedwig on September 09, 2007, 12:25:57 AM
Quote from: bigideas on September 08, 2007, 10:40:55 PM
(i still can't find out when this show comes on...)

depends where you live. there's a station finder on their website...  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: modage on September 09, 2007, 02:02:51 AM
it was the guest critic's dvd pick because apparently he went to college with owen wilson.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Ravi on September 28, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/09/27/bottle-rocket-to-get-the-criterion-dvd-treatment-at-last/

'Bottle Rocket' To Get The Criterion DVD Treatment At Last
Published by Josh Horowitz on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 4:03 pm.

More Wes Anderson goodness for you today, my fellow Max Fischer fanatics. Yesterday I filled you in Anderson's plans for "The Fantastic Mr. Fox." Today I'll make your day if you're a fan of old school Wes, as in the adventures of Dignan, Anthony, and Mr. Henry.

For years, Anderson fans have grumbled about the crappy treatment his first film has received on DVD. The bare bones presentation of "Bottle Rocket" has been all the more galling considering the loving care his subsequent films have gotted as part of the Criterion Collection.

Well, grumble no more. Wes told me, "We've just begun work with the Criterion Collection to do 'Bottle Rocket' on a new DVD that's going to have all kinds of stuff. There's a lot of 'Bottle Rocket' that was on the cutting room floor, so we have a lot to work with on that one."

The cutting room floor, you say? What has Wes been keeping to himself all these years? Are you pre-ordering your "Bottle Rocket" DVD right now? How do you think it stacks up in the Anderson oeuvre?
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 28, 2007, 04:15:02 PM
Sweet. Even though it's my least favorite Wes Anderson movie, it really doesn't mean much, since I like all of his stuff a lot. PLus we have a lot of Kumar in it  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Heinsbergen on September 28, 2007, 06:37:37 PM
pray for the original short in acceptable quality.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Pubrick on September 28, 2007, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/09/27/bottle-rocket-to-get-the-criterion-dvd-treatment-at-last/
have gotted

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Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on September 28, 2007, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Heinsbergen on September 28, 2007, 06:37:37 PM
pray for the original short in acceptable quality.

if Criterion leaves this out they deserve to have a heart attack and get stuck in an elevator.

i hope there's more to that very brief scene where Caan is playing the piano - right before the final heist. i'm sure they'll also have the footage to explain the police lights at Bob's house.

Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on September 29, 2007, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: bigideas on September 28, 2007, 10:22:29 PM
i'm sure they'll also have the footage to explain the police lights at Bob's house.

"wait a minute. you're growing a whole marijuana crop in your back yard?"
I believe there's a scene for this in the script.

Anyway, I cant wait for this. Most important to me is to get "the team" together for a commentary track or two.

...on a side note: the final, slow-mo shot in Bottle Rocket - the best of Wes's four films?
It's so heart-breaking that I find it really jarring when the chirpy credit theme fires up suddenly.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 29, 2007, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: Redlum on September 29, 2007, 11:20:13 AM...on a side note: the final, slow-mo shot in Bottle Rocket - the best of Wes's four films?
It's so heart-breaking that I find it really jarring when the chirpy credit theme fires up suddenly.

Mine is Tenenbaums. To me, it's the most meaningful, but come to think of it, all those final shots are really something, and mean a lot to the movies themselves...
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: modage on October 18, 2007, 03:50:44 PM
Quote from: Heinsbergen on September 28, 2007, 06:37:37 PM
pray for the original short in acceptable quality.

Question: I heard that BOTTLE ROCKET was coming out as a Criterion DVD.

Wes Anderson: That's right. We just have to do a lot of work to prepare it, but that's in the works. I was supposed to do a bunch of stuff already that I didn't do yet, so I'm going to get on it though. But some of the stuff is at my mother's house in Texas, so I have to go to Texas and dig through all my boxes, because there's materials for the movies that I haven't looked at in a long, long time. And we want to try and include everything that might be good.

[Just before the Q&A, Wes and I talked in more detail about his plans for this release, which included a great deal of deleted scenes, some of which he way try to incorporate into the film, with the rest being standard deleted scenes extras. Of course the original BOTTLE ROCKET short would be on the set, but Wes added that he's also got outtakes from that as well that he wants to find.]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34486
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: idk on November 19, 2007, 08:09:58 PM
I just wanted to make sure what the last shot in the movie is cause i downloaded it and it ended kind of abruptly....obvious spoils--->is it of digum walking in line with the other inmates back into the penitentiary and he looks back and waves and then it fades to black(all in slow mo)....it seems like it is but i just wanted to be sure
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on November 19, 2007, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: idk on November 19, 2007, 08:09:58 PM
I just wanted to make sure what the last shot in the movie is cause i downloaded it and it ended kind of abruptly....obvious spoils--->is it of digum walking in line with the other inmates back into the penitentiary and he looks back and waves and then it fades to black(all in slow mo)....it seems like it is but i just wanted to be sure

Buy it on Criterion when it comes out. Or better yet, buy the bare bones DVD now and re-buy it once more on Criterion.
Then you'll know for sure.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: martinthewarrior on August 30, 2008, 07:13:12 PM
Criterion info...


SYNOPSIS

Wes Anderson first illustrated his lovingly detailed, slightly surreal cinematic vision in this witty and warm portrait of three young middle-class misfits. Fresh out of a mental hospital, gentle Anthony (Luke Wilson) finds himself once again embroiled in the machinations of his best friend, elaborate schemer Dignan (Owen Wilson). With the aid of getaway driver Bob (Robert Musgrave), they develop a needlessly complex, mildly successful plan to rob a small bookstore—then go "on the lam." Also featuring Lumi Cavazos as Inez, the South American housekeeper Anthony falls in love with, and James Caan as local thief extraordinaire Mr. Henry, Bottle Rocket is a charming, hilarious, affectionate look at the folly of dreamers. Shot against radiant southwestern backdrops, it's the film that put Anderson and the Wilson brothers on the map.

SPECIAL FEATURES

- DIRECTOR-APPROVED DOUBLE-DISC SET SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES:
- New, restored high-definition digital transfer supervised and approved by director Wes Anderson and director of photography Robert Yeoman
- Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack
- Commentary by director/co-writer Anderson and co-writer/actor Owen Wilson
- The Making of �Bottle Rocket�: an original documentary by filmmaker Barry Braverman featuring Anderson, James L. Brooks, James Caan, Temple Nash Jr., Kumar Pallana, Polly Platt, Mark Mothersbaugh, Robert Musgrave, Richard Sakai, David and Sandy Wasco, Andrew and Luke and Owen Wilson, and Robert Yeoman
- The original thirteen-minute black-and-white Bottle Rocket short film from 1992
- Eleven deleted scenes
- Anamorphic screen test, storyboards, location photos, and behind-the-scenes photographs by Laura Wilson
- Murita Cycles, a 1978 short film by Braverman
- The Shafrazi Lectures, no. 1: Bottle Rocket
- PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by executive producer James L. Brooks, an appreciation by Martin Scorsese
- Original artwork by Ian Dingman
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: modage on December 04, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/wes_anderson_0
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on December 04, 2008, 06:17:00 PM

Quote from: modage on December 04, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/wes_anderson_0

Very interesting. I don't always like his interviews, but this one was pretty good to read. And for some reason, it's very nice to imagine him and Baumbach being friends with Tarantino and PTA and just hanging out.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on December 08, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
How pleased is everyone with the Criterion release?
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: Redlum on January 14, 2009, 09:55:38 AM
Quote from: bigideas on December 08, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
How pleased is everyone with the Criterion release?
Very! Certainly the blu-ray is the most filmic presentation of any film I have seen on the format. The documentary was surprisingly insightful - more so than the commentary which I feel would have benefited from Wes and Owen being in the room together or doing them completely seperately (which I think was how the Rushmore one was done).

Still my favourite Wes Anderson film. And still one of my favourite films full-stop.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: tpfkabi on January 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM
I think I was a little disappointed, but when I thought about it, I think this is the first film that I'd seen a lot before buying a Criterion release.

Usually the Criterion experience is buying a film I'm not too familiar with.

That being said, I am definitely glad they released it and it's nice to have the short and deleted scenes.

That short about the bicycle man was actually very interesting to me - and cool that he took his font/title from it.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: picolas on January 16, 2009, 06:12:48 PM
i just got mine today. going through the supplements and i have to say the shafrazi lectures guy is a twat. one of the least insightful interviews ever. he just keeps saying exactly what's happening on screen like we don't understand. the most obvious details possible. criterion! you know better.. the only other thing i've watched is the anamorphic test which was kinda coo and shockingly well-restored. the packaging is a work of art. easily the best blu-ray packaging ever cause they discarded the blue plastic/"blu-ray!" at the top. and the insert is lovely.
Title: Re: Bottle Rocket
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on January 16, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
Murita Cycles is the bomb. I loved that documentary.