https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rsa4U8mqkw
Hmm that's a big "meh" from me. But it's a just a trailer. Who Is America was good, so I trust. Strange to have the Borat voice intact under the makeup, though.
This sounds like a major SPOILER but it's definitely newsworthy...
Rudy Giuliani faces questions after compromising scene in new Borat film (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film)
Trump's personal attorney has indiscreet encounter with actor playing Borat's daughter in hotel room during pandemic
After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: "She's 15. She's too old for you."
More details about the incident. Spoilers:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-rudy-giuliani-got-caught-red-handed-with-borats-daughter
Posing as a conservative journalist in the mold of Tomi Lahren—albeit with a strong eastern European accent—Tutar sits down with Giuliani in a Manhattan hotel suite for an "interview" in which she mostly flatters him into creepily flirting with her. "I'll relax you, you want me to ask you a question?" Giuliani says as she giggles in response. After blaming China for the coronavirus, he agrees to "eat a bat" with his interviewer, who repeatedly touches his knee to egg him on.
Baron Cohen first interrupts the interview dressed as a sound engineer with a large boom mic, but leaves before it's over. At that point, Tutar offers to "have a drink in the bedroom" with Giuliani, who happily obliges.
On what appear to be hidden cameras, we see Giuliani remove her microphone and ask for her phone number and address as he sits down on the bed. He starts patting her backside as she removes the microphone from his pants. Giuliani then lies down on the bed and starts sticking his hands down his pants in a suggestive manner.
But before anything more can happen, Borat bursts into the room and shouts, "Put down your chram!"—his preferred word for penis. "She's 15! She's too old for you!"
The startled Giuliani, who had no reason to believe his interviewer was underage, sits up abruptly and gets out of there as fast as he can. "Rudy, Trump will be disappoint! You are leaving hotel without golden shower!" Borat yells after him.
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https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1319031305120657410
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Anderton/status/1319037217755549696
I'm actually reserving judgment on this tbh. Will definitely be watching the film Friday night.
https://twitter.com/electrolemon/status/1319009930246983680?s=21
I'm glad that Borat started this video by smashing this guy's Tesla.
It's insane that inheriting millions automatically comes with millions of followers on YouTube...and more money...Or not that insane?
I know reactionary judgement is très en vogue and I am in no way a Giuliani fan or apologist... But if he was led to believe that she was of legal age (which the actor is) and that she was instigating and consenting, what exactly is the big deal here? Yes, he is shady as fuck, but I'm having a hard time understanding how this is the iceberg to sink him that everyone seems to think it is.
If true, I think it's the power and age differential that makes it sleazy. But yeah, certainly not the scandal of the century and probably not even the worst thing Giuliani did that week. Just a fun prank.
Yeah, that's just being mean to a mean bastard. Loving it. And judging from the trailer, the « daughter » is absolutely ridiculous, so showing how these dudes accept any sexual invitation with no second thought is funny. Spies train way too hard to develop sexual relationships with high profile subjects.
Quote from: Sleepless on October 22, 2020, 09:07:32 AM
I know reactionary judgement is très en vogue and I am in no way a Giuliani fan or apologist... But if he was led to believe that she was of legal age (which the actor is) and that she was instigating and consenting, what exactly is the big deal here? Yes, he is shady as fuck, but I'm having a hard time understanding how this is the iceberg to sink him that everyone seems to think it is.
If nothing else, it speaks to Giuliani's extreme gullibility and potential to be compromised by foreign agents, at a moment when those things are massively relevant to the current political situation.
Quote from: polkablues on October 22, 2020, 10:43:35 AM
If nothing else, it speaks to Giuliani's extreme gullibility and potential to be compromised by foreign agents, at a moment when those things are massively relevant to the current political situation.
Hell yes, that should be the lead.
Fixed my "Guiliano" typo because it was driving me crazy.
Make sure to check out the dedication card at the very end, really sweet <3
Maria Bakalova iz so good! With time I'll be able to be clearer on it, but this might be the stronger of the three ali g spin-off prank movies. Aside from some pacing issues, it doesn't trip up, the supporting "cast" resulting from the pranks here are on level with the gag.
I didn't have enough time tonight, but I did watch the Giuliani scene. I am 75% sure he was just tucking in his shirt. But he definitely wants to get together with her later; he eagerly reciprocates her flirtations and asks for her address and phone number.
Kind of a letdown honestly.
The strength of the first movie was the outrageousness of the social interactions (which were much less of a focus for this one) married with the fact that Bush's America was much more amenable to effective satire than Trump's. The insanity has already been metabolized by the culture to the point where the whole country song and Hillary drinking baby blood stuff felt pat and uninspired. The climactic Giuliani thing felt sort of toothless (he's a dumb old pervert so what).
I agree that the insanity has already been metabolized by the culture --
the social interactions here are greeted by its supporting players without batting an eye, an American absurdity with different flavor than the first. But also, when I was in Bush's America I lived in Texas, and for the past four years I've been in California, and watching a 'liberal' state forego wearing masks creates the same dissonance this film does.
That said, if I had expected this to be like Who Is America and not Borat or da Ali Gi show, I'd be letdown.
Quote from: WorldForgot on October 23, 2020, 11:13:07 AM
That said, if I had expected this to be like Who Is America and not Borat or da Ali Gi show, I'd be letdown.
Hmm interesting. It's actually way more like Who is America than Borat to me which is what i found disappointing about it. The political stuff was what fell flat for me and stuff like the Christian pregnancy center was what redeemed it.
A Borat movie genuinely asking the viewer to vote is as absurd as Trump's America and both are real.
Quote from: Axolotl on October 23, 2020, 12:01:29 PM
Quote from: WorldForgot on October 23, 2020, 11:13:07 AM
That said, if I had expected this to be like Who Is America and not Borat or da Ali Gi show, I'd be letdown.
Hmm interesting. It's actually way more like Who is America than Borat to me which is what i found disappointing about it. The political stuff was what fell flat for me and stuff like the Christian pregnancy center was what redeemed it.
We re-watched the full ali-g series as a roomie group (well I missed some of the original UK szn but I saw all the US eps) in anticipation for this and for some reason I feel there's a slight difference to the goofiness.
I can't place my finger on it exactly but Who Is America's satire feelz primed for the prank as the conceit, concise - vs ali g/borat/bruno sketches which use the gag as a foundation to see how empathetic or how much antipathy the supporting cast imbues into the narrative, a tad more humanist.
Quote from: WorldForgot on October 23, 2020, 12:17:59 PM
We re-watched the full ali-g series as a roomie group (well I missed some of the original UK szn but I saw all the US eps) in anticipation for this and for some reason I feel there's a slight difference to the goofiness.
I can't place my finger on it exactly but Who Is America's satire feelz primed for the prank as the conceit, concise - vs ali g/borat/bruno sketches which use the gag as a foundation to see how empathetic or how much antipathy the supporting cast imbues into the narrative, a tad more humanist.
I think we're agreeing.
Who Is America was so much more vital and exciting than this is. SBC does not really seem interested in the Borat character anymore. His line delivery was strangely sluggish and casual, even when confronting Giuliani.
Given how culture and political circumstances have escalated, this really needed to escalate from the first film by at least that much to stay relevant. It did not. In fact the stunts and pranks were dialed down a notch or two.
My best guess — they really could have used (and probably wanted) several more months to get more footage but ran behind schedule (and/or reworked it) due to Covid and decided to fast-track it before the election. It's unfinished. I get the sense they were just running with what they had rather than picking out the best of the best as SBC usually does. I would be surprised if there are any notable deleted scenes.
Highlights:
1. The debutante ball – the only scene that reaches the heights of the original IMO
2. Conservative women's conference
3. Jeanise the nanny
4. The old Jewish lady
None of those scenes have much of anything to do with Borat. Maria Bakalova carried the movie.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on October 23, 2020, 10:04:37 PM
Who Is America was so much more vital and exciting than this is.
My best guess — they really could have used (and probably wanted) several more months to get more footage but ran behind schedule (and/or reworked it) due to Covid and decided to fast-track it before the election. It's unfinished. I get the sense they were just running with what they had rather than picking out the best of the best as SBC usually does. I would be surprised if there are any notable deleted scenes.
Maria Bakalova carried the movie.
Yeah, agree with all of this, I feel like COVID interfering with the schedule is notable even within the structure and repeat 'cast' .
https://twitter.com/SachaBaronCohen/status/1321230276878430214
BLM was protesting/riposting at that alt-right festival and recognized Cohen and the info—like Covid-19—spread. (Maybe the context is in the movie, I haven't reached that moment yet. I heard about it on Colbert.)
For those who thought the babysitter was in on it (I've heard that a few times);
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1321461997762801664
From Variety (https://variety.com/2020/film/news/borat-2-babysitter-sacha-baron-cohen-1234817215/):
QuoteThe New York Post said you felt "betrayed" by the filmmakers. Is that true?
I saw that comment, and I had to let them know that I never felt betrayed. What I said was that I didn't know it was a movie or an R-rated movie. "Betrayed" never came out of my mouth. I don't know where they got that from. I'm not ever going to say I was betrayed because it was partially my fault I didn't read the contracts. I'll take my responsibility on that.
What would you say to Sacha Baron Cohen and Maria now?
As far as her, I would give her a hug. I'm glad to know she's not really in that situation. I hate to hear of anyone in that situation. Him, I don't know. It wasn't real, so I would shake his hand and say, "You got me."
Incidentally, on Sunday, we happened to go to the mini golf/driving range where a scene was filmed (https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article246632208.html). They had Borat koozies for sale in the club shop.