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Reply #45 on: December 18, 2003, 12:37:14 PM
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Reply #46 on: December 18, 2003, 12:42:10 PM
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Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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Reply #47 on: December 18, 2003, 02:04:42 PM
this thread: -****

now can we please stop already?

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Reply #48 on: December 18, 2003, 03:35:50 PM
This thread kix ass.  Why can't people enjoy saying the things they want to say without other people getting in the way with their superfluous comments ON the topic, as opposed to OF the topic.  If a thread bothers you, why worry about?  You don't have to look at it, read it, click on it, smell it, hear it, whatever.  So, why attempt to bring down those who are enjoying it with overlooked replies?
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Reply #49 on: December 18, 2003, 03:38:55 PM
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This thread kix ass.  Why can't people enjoy saying the things they want to say without other people getting in the way with their superfluous comments ON the topic, as opposed to OF the topic.  If a thread bothers you, why worry about?  You don't have to look at it, read it, click on it, smell it, hear it, whatever.  So, why attempt to bring down those who are enjoying it with overlooked replies?


A sensible post.

Now who will be the first to mock it??

But anyway, my thoughts exactly. If the thread is such a bother, lock it. Otherwise, why not let us have our fun.


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Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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Reply #50 on: December 18, 2003, 03:43:28 PM
Thanks for the support SoNowThen

I find it humurous how off the Tarantino topic this thread has gotten.  :lol:
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Reply #51 on: December 18, 2003, 03:48:50 PM
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This thread kix ass.  Why can't people enjoy saying the things they want to say without other people getting in the way with their superfluous comments ON the topic, as opposed to OF the topic.  If a thread bothers you, why worry about?  You don't have to look at it, read it, click on it, smell it, hear it, whatever.  So, why attempt to bring down those who are enjoying it with overlooked replies?


So you're all for looking at stars rather than a discussion?

And I have to look at each thread, I'm an admin and have to figure out how to abuse you guys.
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Reply #52 on: December 18, 2003, 03:59:34 PM
Yes, discussions are one thing.  Unfortunately, the only thing people bring up for discussion is why there is such a thing as the thread, or something along those lines.
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Reply #53 on: December 18, 2003, 03:59:37 PM
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I find it humurous how off the Tarantino topic this thread has gotten.  :lol:


exactly my problem. Tarantino can be given a ranking thread because everyone knows where they stand with him as a filmmaker already and it is interesting to see what they think of his films considering he is the center of the film universe and many films now are just influences from his. Now every director is getting the treatment in this thread and discussion is being replaced with easy ranking. They aren't in the same boat as Tarantino.

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Reply #54 on: December 18, 2003, 04:00:58 PM
Boxcar Bertha (bought it for 5.99): **
Mean Streets: ****
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore: ***
Taxi Driver:****
New York New York: *
The Last Waltz: ****
Raging Bull: ****
The King Of Comedy: ****
After Hours: ***
The Color Of Money: **
The Last Temptation Of Christ: ****
Goodfellas: ****
Cape Fear: ***
Age Of Innocence: ****
Casino: **1/2
Kundun: ***
Bringing Out The Dead: ***
Gangs Of New York: ***


Paths Of Glory: ****
Spartacus: **
Lolita: ****
Dr Strangelove: ****
2001: ****
A Clockwork Orange: ****
Barry Lyndon: ****
The Shining: ***
Full Metal Jacket: ***
Eyes Wide Shut: ****

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Reply #55 on: December 18, 2003, 04:07:21 PM
was that "these guys aren't in the same boat as Tarantino" comment concocted in to start a controversy or something?  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Tarantino, but he's only been around for little over a decade.  Yes, I usually say he's my FAVORITE director, but he is not the BEST.  That crown belongs to either Kubrick, Fellini, Hitchcock, or Welles.  
Another thing, it's obvious that more people are enjoying this thread than you are, so why don't you just let it go.
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Reply #56 on: December 18, 2003, 04:10:06 PM
i just don't understand what u get from making these lists w/ all these rankings. it doesn't mean anything.

instead of rankings, why don't u just say what u like/dislike about the films?

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Reply #57 on: December 18, 2003, 04:21:28 PM
That would work, but it's hard to cover all of the films you like and the reasons why.  So ratings are the easy way to voice a quick opinion.
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Reply #58 on: December 18, 2003, 04:27:24 PM
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was that "these guys aren't in the same boat as Tarantino" comment concocted in to start a controversy or something?  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Tarantino, but he's only been around for little over a decade.  Yes, I usually say he's my FAVORITE director, but he is not the BEST.  That crown belongs to either Kubrick, Fellini, Hitchcock, or Welles.  
Another thing, it's obvious that more people are enjoying this thread than you are, so why don't you just let it go.


That "these guys aren't in the same boat as Tarantino" comment was for the reason of the cultural impact Tarantino has had on the film world today in popularity. By asking people how they rank his films, it will maybe probe into what they think of the film world today in its influence. I also realize saying Tarantino is God to every film is pretensious, but hey, he's had the biggest impact of any filmmaker.  Nothing to do wiith quality at all and if you look at my own rankings of his films, you'll see I don't believe he is really that great anyways.

Also, I won't let it go simply because this is a Tarantino thread in the Tarantino forum. What relevance does ranking Spike Jonze have here? None. Does this mean you guys are forbidden to rank their films? Not at all. Just find the right playground to do it in and get the hell out of this one before the 6th graders all kick your ass.

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Reply #59 on: December 18, 2003, 05:49:50 PM
So harsh...

Although, the cultural impact comment about Tarantino was factual.  I'm sure you also intend to show the pace of his impact as part of his phenomenon.  
All right....I'll play ball with you.

You know what problem I've found with Tarantino?  I'm sure this is a common observation with his influence, but filmmaker's who "want to be him" don't know how to go about it.  It's kind of like the Nirvana thing.  Both of them shook up the medium that they were in, but also ruined it at the same time.  For Tarantino: people think that to be as violent as possible and have a screwy narrative makes you the "next Tarantino", many don't realize that his dialogue is what drives his film to greatness.  With Nirvana: people think that to yell at the top of your lungs and pretend you're depressed will make you the "next Kurt Cobain", when really it's the melody that drives their songs to greatness.

They are paralleled 90's icons who were/are misunderstood even to this day.
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