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Title: the best anti-war songs
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 15, 2003, 06:51:27 PM
I'll start with an obvious one: Edwin Starr's "War"...

War. Huh. Good God, y'all...
Title: the best anti-war songs
Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2003, 07:42:50 PM
Marvin Gaye
"What's goin on"
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 15, 2003, 08:41:34 PM
"For What It's Worth" - Buffalo Springfield
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Post by: ShanghaiOrange on April 15, 2003, 09:21:37 PM
Revolution by the Beatles :(
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Post by: neatahwanta on April 15, 2003, 10:36:19 PM
Who'll Stop The Rain - CCR

Wooden Ships - CSN
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Post by: Sigur Rós on April 16, 2003, 04:36:22 AM
Bob Dylan - Hard rains gonna fall

.....I think that's what it's called  :-D
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Post by: Cecil on April 16, 2003, 06:37:00 AM
"bring the boys back home," "vera," "the day the tigers broke free" (on the film pink floyd: the wall), and the entire album "the final cut" by pink floyd.
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Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on April 16, 2003, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI'll start with an obvious one: Edwin Starr's "War"...

War. Huh. Good God, y'all...

in a weird ironic twist edwin starr the guy who sang this song died right after the war in iraq started creepy
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 16, 2003, 12:51:53 PM
While that's sad, it's not really worthy of the title "Ironic"
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Post by: polkablues on April 16, 2003, 03:57:08 PM
Quote from: RegularKarateWhile that's sad, it's not really worthy of the title "Ironic"

Not like rain on your wedding day, or a black fly in your chardonnay.  That's ironic.  Don't you think?


Sorry.  I'm done now.
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 16, 2003, 04:14:14 PM
Right, as I'm sure you're aware, almost nothing in that song is actually ironic (Poor Allanis, You Oughta Know what Irony is)...

I get tired of the misuse of that word sometimes, but under my skin lately is that Car commercial with the Celine Dion song where she says "Don't you find it IRONICAL"... don't fucking say that... while the dictionary has accepted it as an actual word, it's only because people refuse to stop saying it...
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Post by: polkablues on April 16, 2003, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: RegularKaratebut under my skin lately is that Car commercial with the Celine Dion song where she says "Don't you find it IRONICAL"...

Thank god, someone else is as bugged by that as I am.  Same thing with the Incubus song "Drive", where he says "waver" (or "waiver") where he means "waive".

And now... back to the topic.
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Post by: Sleuth on April 16, 2003, 04:35:17 PM
Wait, one more post on that ironic business

Is the fact that almost nothing is ironic in the song "Ironic" ironic in itself?  Maybe that was her intention
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Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on April 16, 2003, 04:37:56 PM
its ironic in that he may of had a chance to have a comeback amongst phoney rich college kids who are yellin " down with war"

he could of been the new thom yourke :: removes tounge from cheek::
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Post by: ShanghaiOrange on April 16, 2003, 07:43:39 PM
"Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones :(
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Post by: OmegaSlacker on April 18, 2003, 01:32:24 PM
Springsteen's Born in the USA and CCR's Fortunate Son.   Bob Dylan also did a good one called Masters of War, which Eddie Vedder and Mike McCready covered.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 27, 2003, 12:45:54 PM
http://polsong.gcal.ac.uk/Research/antiwar/anti-war.htm
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Post by: Cecil on May 27, 2003, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackmanhttp://polsong.gcal.ac.uk/Research/antiwar/anti-war.htm

they dont have any pink floyd. "the final cut" is an entire anti-war album
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Post by: godardian on May 27, 2003, 08:21:30 PM
"Love Vigilantes" - New Order

"Levi Stubb's Tears" - Billy Bragg

...not bombastic or obvious, but more effective for that in bringing the anti-war message home. Those two are the ones that come to my mind first.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 27, 2003, 08:26:46 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedthey dont have any pink floyd. "the final cut" is an entire anti-war album

Well I think it's pretty much stuff that came out in the last few months. Some of it's pretty good, some of it's pretty bad, but it's all interesting. The best recent [obvious] anti-war song I've heard is REM's "The Final Straw" (http://www.remhq.com/finalStraw/finalstraw.html)... (and even that is just good, not particularily great)...

Although I still think much of Hail to the Thief is anti-war... in a perfect Radiohead kind of way...
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Post by: Sick Boy on May 27, 2003, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: OmegaSlackerBob Dylan also did a good one called Masters of War.

Masters of War
by Bob Dylan

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
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Post by: Teddy on May 27, 2003, 10:08:46 PM
"Eve of Destruction" by Barry McGuire
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Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on May 28, 2003, 08:04:11 AM
BOOM!- System of a Down........fucking rocks your socks off baby  8)
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Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on May 28, 2003, 08:06:36 AM
And straying off the topic for just a sec....the best anti-consumerism, anti-materialism song (not that there are many lol): Chic 'N Stu-System again  :P
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Post by: Just Withnail on June 03, 2003, 05:02:24 PM
It was more than mentioned, but Masters of War is the fuckin best anti war song ever made. Listen to it now. Seriously.
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Post by: godardian on June 03, 2003, 05:05:01 PM
"Off Duty Trip" - The Raincoats
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Post by: Mesh on June 03, 2003, 05:20:04 PM
"One" - Metallica

"Disposable Heroes" - Metallica

OK, OK, neither of those holds a candle to the best Dylan protest songs.

But they are metal.

:twisted:
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Post by: godardian on June 03, 2003, 05:32:33 PM
"I Love a Man in Uniform" - Gang of Four (and lots of their other songs, too- that's just my favorite).
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 03, 2003, 06:20:45 PM
Quote from: godardian"I Love a Man in Uniform" - Gang of Four (and lots of their other songs, too- that's just my favorite).

You must be joking, oh man, you must be joking.
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Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 03, 2003, 07:35:53 PM
no godard is not kidding, that whole man in uniform thing is legit .

He once sent me a private message where he went in great detail how hewanted to get it hot and nasty with cliff claivin from cheers

the letter was 7 pages long and it contained the phrase

" Go postal on my ass , mail boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

that was some very fucked up shit
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Post by: 82 on June 04, 2003, 03:08:23 AM
For a Jazzy anti-war song...

Swiss Movement -- Compared to What
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Post by: godardian on June 04, 2003, 10:25:25 AM
"Step Aside" and "Combat Rock" - Sleater-Kinney

Two very current anti-war songs, as it turned out (they were on One Beat, released late last year).
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Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 12, 2003, 09:22:12 PM
Fortunate Son - (I forget...)
What's Going On - Marvin Gaye
Boom! - SOAD
War - SOAD
P.L.U.C.K. - SOAD
911 For Peace - Anti-Flag

Just to name a few off the top of my head...
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Post by: moonshiner on August 12, 2003, 09:36:14 PM
nofx....glass war