this will be discussed sooner than later so lets have at it.
they've had a LOT of prep time with their NBC videos but i have no clue what kind of flavour they plan to bring to 12:30. letterman was anti-talkshow silly, conan was surreal, cartoon silly... if i had to guess, i'd say fallon is trying to bring a more book-smart silly. whatever that is.
but the best news as far as im concerned is that he's got a writer in AD MILES.
... discuss.
I've never seen Fallon comfortable in his own skin. In movies, even when he tries to play something other than awkward, he still manages to come off as slightly awkward all the time. He can use that to his benefit on a late night talk show, but I don't think he will use his personality accordingly. It will still get in the way of good jokes and letting a guest talk.
I don't know, I think he's one of the few celebs who can never have too many bobbleheads made of him. But I think the show will go for a brand of goofy and try to slightly be different than Conan, but it will never get out of the shadow.
ever since his last conan interview i've been worried. he was definitely uncomfortable doing anything unscripted that wasn't praising conan or laughing at his jokes and reacted oddly to the audience laughing at the last, unintentionally funny thing he said... i loved him on snl, but ever since then i've realized how singularly perfect snl was for him. he's obviously not great at playing his non-snl self or choosing written material ('almost famous' aside). still i want him to be great and i hope i'm wrong.
Quote from: picolas on February 21, 2009, 02:42:40 PM
he's obviously not great at playing his non-snl self or choosing written material ('almost famous' aside). still i want him to be great and i hope i'm wrong.
this is why the decision to pick him puzzled me. he's at his best playing characters, but every time he's just being 'jimmy fallon" he's rather unfunny, sometimes embarassingly so.
anything beats ferguson though, god that show is awful.
Ferguson sucks. and I wholeheartedly agree on what people are saying here about Fallon.
i must make a correction here.. i just realized that not only is AD Miles a writer, he is their HEAD writer.
The only people who watch TV late at night are stoners who can't afford cable. Conan dominated that time slot because he appeals to stoners who can't afford cable.
As a stoner who can't afford cable, let me just say that Jimmy Fallon sucks so bad.
Quote from: Stefen on February 21, 2009, 03:46:02 PM
The only people who watch TV late at night are stoners who can't afford cable. Conan dominated that time slot because he appeals to stoners who can't afford cable.
As a stoner who can't afford cable, let me just say that Jimmy Fallon sucks so bad.
Hell ya...I'm a stoner who can work consistency and hard on any job most people give me. I'm not sure if that made any sense. I'm a little bit out of it now.
i've always been anti-fallon. i was pretty appalled when i heard the news. :yabbse-undecided:
GT's right about that shadow. what an enormous shadow. i don't see how even AD Miles as head writer could survive jimmy fallon's total lack of charsima. the conan crew wrote material that blended perfectly with conan's persona, but the persona itself was hilarious too. he could squeeze a laugh out of ANYTHING. this is key. fallon has none of that. he's "quirky" in the most annoying way.
it took conana a few years to find his footing. be patient.
I agree with most comments here. I've never been a fan and though he sucked in everything he did outside SNL. I never watched his movies though I think, 'Fever Pitch' because he looked stupid and managed to ruin an excellent book, and 'Taxi' because he also managed to look stupid, but also managed to to take a stupid good movie (the original Taxi) and make it horrible.
I think they will try to make him cool and hip, trying to capture the SNL crowd, but I don't see so many people tuning in. I cannot wait for Conan to come back in the Fall.
Quote from: pete on February 21, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
it took conana a few years to find his footing. be patient.
True, though even in his first episode Conan displayed his trademark sense of humor. I have the episode on my computer if anyone's interested. Jimmy's been around for a long time, and, while he's a good impressionist and somewhat engaging as an overall entertainer, he's not that funny. I'd love to be proven wrong, though, and I'm glad that AD Miles is the head writer.
Quote from: kal on February 21, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
I think they will try to make him cool and hip, trying to capture the SNL crowd, but I don't see so many people tuning in.
I don't know. One thing Jimmy Fallon has going for him is celebrity. While I don't understand how anyone can find Ferguson funny, he had been catching up in ratings to Conan. Just a few weeks ago he was even beating him in viewers so Fallon doesn't have to strike up comedic gold to be successful.
De Niro, Morrison first guests for Fallon's show
NEW YORK – If Jimmy Fallon is nervous about the premiere of his new gig as "Late Night" host, he'll have show-biz heavyweights Robert De Niro and Van Morrison to lean on. They'll be the guests for Fallon's March 2 debut hosting the NBC late-night show.
Fallon replaces Conan O'Brien, who has his final show Friday before heading out west to take over the "Tonight" show in June.
Morrison will perform material from his critically praised "Astral Weeks" album.
NBC says Tina Fey, Jon Bon Jovi, Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, Donald Trump and Serena Williams are among other guests scheduled for Fallon's first week on "Late Night."
Deniro's just as bad as he is on SNL (I lost interest for a minute there), Timberlake was saving (always amusing and entertaining, I'm constantly impressed with how talented he is, first on SNL, then here), never seen a more awkward monologue, but that's to be expected. Lick it for 10 was somewhat amusing, but the objects chosen weren't nearly as gross as they could be. Could've started a trend there. Rule of comedy, you put the chick last, and fill in the blanks as the chips may fall. Missed opportunity, there. It'll get better. This was to be expected.
How long 'til Conan's back, again? :)
poor guy. so nervous. like after his first joke in the monologue you could tell he didnt know it'd be so hard. I thought "lick it for 10" was stupid. like an snl sketch that never made it to air. why show an instant replay..what an unfunny time waster. i dont think fallon is that entertaining, so deniro isnt that great of a guest, fallon was lost. way to rely on timberlake to steal the show. "remember that one time on snl" poor fallon. he needs to take control. he'll learn... in a couple years. haha
and more than anything he looked uncomfortable, like it was the first time he was on national tv.
I've seen conan's first and he looked way more relaxed and natural.
Yeah it wasn't good, but I was expecting worse. Deniro didn't help. Let's see how he evolves during this week.
Awesome that he has The Roots though.
Timberlake should have taken over the show. And, based on that clip for his MTV show, I hope he's giving Fincher kick backs for ripping off The Game.
Quote from: Cinephile on February 21, 2009, 03:20:36 PM
i must make a correction here.. i just realized that not only is AD Miles a writer, he is their HEAD writer.
noticed that Michael Showalter is also writing for the show :shock:
Fallon delivers big numbers to NBC
'Late Night' tops timeslot in ratings race
Source: Variety
Jimmy Fallon's debut as host of the "Late Night" franchise scored improved ratings for NBC on Monday, delivering the best Monday numbers in the timeslot in more than three years.
On a highly competitive night that saw rival programs in the hour on CBS and ABC well represented with high-profile guests, "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" averaged a 2.3 rating/8 share in Nielsen's metered-market overnights. This was a 35% improvement over Monday's "Late Night" average this season (2.3 vs. 1.7).
The Fallon bow also rated higher than the premieres of other network latenight programs such as CBS' "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson" in 2005 (1.8/7), the regular-slot debut of "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on ABC in 2003, and the 1999 bow of CBS' "Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn" (1.7/7).
Fallon's guests were Robert De Niro, Justin Timberlake and Van Morrison. CBS' "Late Late Show" featured Paris Hilton, and ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel" had the "Bachelor" himself, Jason Mesnick, on the night of that show's highly rated finale.
Fallon is taking over the 12:35 a.m. slot from Conan O'Brien, who will assume the "Tonight Show" chair in late spring.
I'm afraid to watch this---even on hulu because of the reviews on here.
I just keep thinking, this poor guy. He was SO happy to have Tina Fey on, he couldn't wait until she came out. then back to the "remember snl" schtick. the facebook thing was funny but I thought it would be about twitter with how much twitter has been in the news lately. I'll admit that I laughed at "50 and fabulous." Bloomberg was also good, but the taking pictures thing went on too long.
I was worried that they'd have that girl sing all of Dead or Alive.
Quote from: OrHowILearnedTo on March 03, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 21, 2009, 03:20:36 PM
i must make a correction here.. i just realized that not only is AD Miles a writer, he is their HEAD writer.
noticed that Michael Showalter is also writing for the show :shock:
i didn't see all the writers in the credits and would love a list if anyone had one.. but regardless, i'm almost positive you're confusing him with the shows exec. producer michael shoemaker, who goes back with fallon since his SNL days.
as for the first two shows.. yeah, its clear the guy needs work getting more confidence but i mean.. conan was giggling like a maniac for the first couple years and look where he is now. and now that we see fallon hit a ratings high, NBC must be having a field day with this. it'll be interesting to see how they end up fluctuating over the next couple weeks. but i'd say the show is going to do very well, no doubt.
and yeah, for like everyone in the world who has said it already, OF COURSE timberlake stole the show.. dudes the greatest ever. see the top 5 things thread for more incriminating thoughts :/
yeah, no showalter.
Quote from: Cinephile on March 04, 2009, 02:11:23 AM
as for the first two shows.. yeah, its clear the guy needs work getting more confidence but i mean.. conan was giggling like a maniac for the first couple years and look where he is now. and now that we see fallon hit a ratings high, NBC must be having a field day with this. it'll be interesting to see how they end up fluctuating over the next couple weeks. but i'd say the show is going to do very well, no doubt.
I saw Fallon live a couple of months ago and the place was packed out on a Sunday night. He definitely has a following. However, NBC frontloaded the shit out of his show, and maybe when they don't have a De Niro or Fey everyday the ratings will drop.
Fuck, they should have just given AD Miles the show...
Brian Williams should be hosting the Late Night.
this was probably talked about this somewhere else, but without Search this is where i came.
if this show existed only for this interview it's existance would be relevant:
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/clips/saved-by-the-bell-reunion-update-3-6809/1121321/
haha, new host plz
seriously. he just sits there and tries to disprove the gag repeatedly. wtf.
how mark paul never laughs or breaks character is pretty incredible.
i couldn't do it, but then again, i'm not an actor.
Quote from: picolas on June 11, 2009, 10:40:39 PM
seriously. he just sits there and tries to disprove the gag repeatedly. wtf.
Well, he's playing the straight-man. He sees these bits as sketches (and they are more like straight-forward sketch than most talk-show segments), but he's not a good actor so his participation just seems awkward.
i know it's a pre-written sketch and he's playing the straight man, but the straight man can be hilarious too. this is as one-note as a straight man can be.
Yeah, that Zack Morris thing was awesome.
wow mark paul hasn't aged a BIT. he owned that segment though, anybody could've been hosting and it would've been exactly the same. i can't believe anyone ever thought fallon was a good idea. the man has no personality. this is the problem with a former SNL person hosting a talk show, because often times that person is more comfortable occupying a character than being funny as themselves. i wanna say give him time, but the man spent YEARS on live television and never looked comfortable in his own skin.
Jimmy Fallon to Take Over THE TONIGHT SHOW in 2014?
Source: Collider
It appears that Jimmy Fallon may be making the move to NBC's The Tonight Show sooner rather than later. A new report from the New York Times claims that Fallon has received an offer to take over from Jay Leno as the host of The Tonight Show by no later than 2014. Moreover, the show will be moving from Los Angeles back to New York City. Fallon has excelled as the host of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon since the show's debut in 2009, and NBC appears to be very pleased with his performance thus far. There appears to be a bit of resistance to making the move to the Tonight Show so soon though, specifically from Late Night producer Lorne Michaels.
Though the New York Times has Fallon mulling over an offer to take over The Tonight Show next year, THR's sources add quite a bit more to the story. Apparently some executives at NBC are keen on launching Fallon's Tonight Show in February 2014 in order to take advantage of the ratings spike from the 2014 Winter Olympics, but others at the company—including SNL and Late Night producer Lorne Michaels—aren't thrilled with the idea of rushing the transition.
An official announcement that Fallon will be taking over The Tonight Show is expected at NBC's upfront presentation this May, but the network has reportedly already begun work on a new studio at 30 Rock in New York that would be the new home of The Tonight Show. NBC entertainment chairman Bob Greenblatt is said to be none too pleased with Leno's recent jabs at the network on his show, and replacing him with Fallon sooner rather than later would prevent Leno from moving to a rival network before his contract expires in September of 2014.
As for Late Night, NBC executives are said to be actively looking for Fallon's replacement. One possibility that I would personally be thrilled with is SNL alum/current head writer Seth Meyers. The move would certainly make sense given that Michaels produces both Late Night and SNL, and Meyers has plenty of experience behind a desk as the host of Weekend Update.
Whatever the case, expect to hear more details as May approaches. What appears to be certain, though, is that Jimmy Fallon will be the next host of The Tonight Show.
Official: Jimmy Fallon to replace Jay Leno
Source: EW
It's official: NBC announced today that Jimmy Fallon will succeed Jay Leno on The Tonight Show.
Leno will wrap up 22 years of hosting the franchise in Spring 2014, which marks the end of his current contract. Fallon, who currently reigns at 12:30 a.m. with his Late Night, will take over at that time. Had NBC made the decision to install Fallon earlier — like, say, around the Winter Olympics — it would have had to pay out millions in penalty fees to Leno.
As previously reported, The Tonight Show will return to its original home in 30 Rock in New York and will be executive-produced by Lorne Michaels (Saturday Night Live, 30 Rock). He replaces longtime EP Debbie Vickers.
It's unclear who will take over Late Night, Fallon's current show. An announcement is expected soon.
"Congratulations Jimmy," Leno said in a statement. "I hope you're as lucky as me and hold on to the job until you're the old guy. If you need me, I'll be at the garage." Added Fallon in a statement, "I'm really excited to host a show that starts today instead of tomorrow."
"Jay Leno is an entertainment icon, making millions of people laugh every weeknight for more than 20 years," said Steve Burke, Chief Executive Officer of NBCUniversal. "His long reign as the highest-rated late-night host is a testament to his work ethic and dedication to his viewers and to NBC. We are purposefully making this change when Jay is #1, just as Jay replaced Johnny Carson when he was #1. Jimmy Fallon is a unique talent and this is his time. I'm thrilled he will become the sixth host of 'The Tonight Show' at exactly the right moment, in conjunction with our coverage of next year's Winter Olympic Games from Sochi, Russia.
NBC added in its announcement today that The Tonight Show has ranked No. 1 — ahead of its ABC and CBS — in 18-49 viewers and total viewers for each season since Leno's return in March 2010 and for the 14 seasons before his departure in May 2009. During the current season, Tonight is consistently No. 1 versus his rivals, averaging a 0.8 rating, 3 share in adults 18-49 and 3.5 million viewers.
Fallon's Late Night has ranked No. 1 in 18-49 versus the time period's ABC and CBS competition each season since debuting in March of 2009.
On Monday, the two late-night hosts seemed to indicate there was no bad blood between them by performing a "duet" that mocked the ongoing speculation about who's going and who's leaving.
no mention of conan at all.
like that whole thing never happened.
it made me stop watching late nite tv, all that bullshit.
that and the insufferable andy richter.
Agree. And not to get all cbrad on everyone but all these old white guys are boring. I hear Seth Meyers is the likely candidate for Jimmy's replacement. Of course they won't ever consider a non-white male or even ::gasp:: a woman.
I'm most excited for Pete Holmes' late night show after Conan. Love that guy, he's one of us ( diehard PTA fan ) and I think he'll be a great host! His podcast You Made It Weird (http://youmadeitweird.libsyn.com/webpage/page/1) is definitely a new favorite.
Alec Baldwin Reportedly in Talks to Take Over NBC's LAST CALL
Source: Collider
It appears that the late night drama at NBC is far from over. While the network recently announced that Jimmy Fallon would be replacing Jay Leno as host of The Tonight Show in early 2014, with Seth Meyers in talks to step in as the new host of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, the network is now eyeing a changeup at its other late night show: Last Call with Carson Daly. You'd be forgiven for forgetting that Last Call still exists, but the very late night half-hour show has been running for a total of 12 seasons with former MTV host Carson Daly at the helm. Now it appears that Daly might be out, with 30 Rock star Alec Baldwin in discussions to take over as host of his own late night talk show.
The folks over at The New York Times—who were first to report the Fallon/Tonight Show switch—report that Alec Baldwin is in the early stages of negotiations to join NBC's late night lineup. The most likely place for a Baldwin-hosted show is apparently the 1:35am slot currently populated by Last Call with Carson Daly, but it's unclear if Baldwin would be at the helm of an entirely new show or if he'd simply take over Last Call and make some changes to the format. The report notes that Baldwin would be able to film multiple episodes at a time, allowing him to continue his work in film.
Baldwin has a rather swell relationship with the Peacock as he starred on 30 Rock for its seven-season run (winning two Emmys in the process) and is a frequent host of Saturday Night Live. Daly currently serves as host of NBC's The Voice so it's not like he'd be entirely getting the shaft, but should Baldwin nab his own show it would mark a complete overhaul of NBC's late night programming. We should hear more in the coming weeks, but what do you think about Baldwin hosting his own late night show?