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Title: [proposal: xixax collective story.]
Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 01:27:58 PM
Has it every been tried before? It'd be interesting to form a story between all of us.  I'm not starting it because I want to hear opinions first, but my idea is  , for example,  some one  starting a paragraph, and ending it when he considers  it necessary.


So... opinions?
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Post by: El Duderino on April 25, 2004, 01:31:24 PM
i'm all for it......but i dont want to start either
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: El Duderinoi'm all for it......but i dont want to start either

I'm not saying I won't start it,  I just want to see (lots of) opinions , sugestions and if there's greenlight,  we could build  the skeleton of the story , work on it, take out stuff . Sort of like a Wikipedia.
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Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 25, 2004, 02:11:24 PM
Don't waste your time.  It's been tried several times before and som jerk will post on it saying "The End" early on.

They'll kill it and it will ruin your day.

Best of luck, though.
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Post by: mogwai on April 25, 2004, 02:19:49 PM
^

how's that for ruining a thread? have i ruined your day now?

go away and sob now.
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Post by: rustinglass on April 25, 2004, 02:21:33 PM
I'll do it if it's a well thought out plan.
But I can't promise a lot of dedication.
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobDon't waste your time.  It's been tried several times before and som jerk will post on it saying "The End" early on.

They'll kill it and it will ruin your day.

Best of luck, though.

The only thing I'll ask for is seriousness.  Without wanting to sound hostile, if you don't want to commit , just ignore this.

Quote from: rustinglassI'll do it if it's a well thought out plan.
But I can't promise a lot of dedication.


Well, start shooting ideas!!
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 25, 2004, 02:25:41 PM
I'd like to participate, if this happens.

I could also make sure nobody kills the thread prematurely.
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Post by: rustinglass on April 25, 2004, 02:28:32 PM
we need to limit the number of characters, otherwise it will get confusing.
if you're going to kill a character, you have to give a very good explanation that has to be accepted by the others.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 25, 2004, 02:31:36 PM
Quote from: rustinglassif you're going to kill a character, you have to give a very good explanation that has to be accepted by the others.
Shouldn't it be a spontaneous thing, though? Where would there be room for conferring or explanation?

How about a rule that says if you kill a character you have to make a new one?
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 02:33:20 PM
Quote from: rustinglasswe need to limit the number of characters, otherwise it will get confusing.
if you're going to kill a character, you have to give a very good explanation that has to be accepted by the others.

fair enough.  it would also be nice if we got into debates on specific moments of the story; if something isn't working or doesn't feels right, we could join the chat and discuss it for a while.

i sincerely hope this won't die yet.

oh, and another thing we have to put a limit on  is the number of people involved. so, JB's in, Rusting, Duderino, and me so far.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 25, 2004, 02:50:21 PM
i'd like to try.  I've never tried writing fiction before, well some short scripts, but not much.
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: SHAFTRi'd like to try.  I've never tried writing fiction before, well some short scripts, but not much.

neither have I.  :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: ono on April 25, 2004, 02:58:15 PM
How would you handle things like people potentially posting at the same time?  Would there be a set order in which for people to go?
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: OnomatopitaHow would you handle things like people potentially posting at the same time?  Would there be a set order in which for people to go?

Hmm,  I doubt that'll ever happen but if it does, the two people that posted could decide which story should be chosen or if they want to make an amalgam of both. Terrible suggestion....

..
I think a deadline would work better.  We can schedule things , to avoid that.
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Post by: El Duderino on April 25, 2004, 03:27:08 PM
when do we start?
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Post by: cron on April 25, 2004, 03:32:08 PM
i'll have some stuff for tomorrow.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 25, 2004, 04:30:09 PM
I'm all for trying. The semester's almost over, so I's needs something to do.
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Post by: Banky on April 25, 2004, 06:05:19 PM
i would like to join
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 25, 2004, 09:00:30 PM
:waving: ...i'm in..

but on these conditions..

1. someoen has to proofread for spelling errors in my posts..
2. don't mind excessive use of elipsis'...
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Post by: Thrindle on April 25, 2004, 09:13:51 PM
Me too!  Muahahahahahahahah... Beware of sappy romance subplots   :twisted:
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on April 25, 2004, 09:20:14 PM
I may or may not join in.
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Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 25, 2004, 09:43:44 PM
Well, I guess this thread is the organizer.

I'm all for helping.

Earlier I was just warning you of jerk-offs who'd ruin it, but for some reason, people give a damn now.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 25, 2004, 09:47:36 PM
walrus' freak out is unwarranted. as is his current hostility.

none of the other members here think it would fail, the only reason it might hav failed in the past is because of "jerk-offs" as u put it, whom are no longer present.

i like the idea but the main condition should be that a single line or sentence is not enuff to add to the story. it's gotta be at least a paragraph and hav a point, not just rambling.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 25, 2004, 09:51:40 PM
This could be epic.
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Post by: cine on April 25, 2004, 09:53:08 PM
Quote from: Pubricki like the idea but the main condition should be that a single line or sentence is not enuff to add to the story. it's gotta be at least a paragraph and hav a point, not just rambling.
And to add to this, it must advance the story.

Also, I hope we're not going to be doing something genre specific the first time around. It should be something fun to start with where people can happily add something a bit surreal but helpful to the story. That's something I would personally like to see the first time around since it would more welcoming for people.
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 25, 2004, 10:00:23 PM
Yes, FUN is the key here... if you try to make it too serious, it's gonna get fucked right out the door.  Too many conflicting styles and levels of intelligence.

At least START with something fun.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 25, 2004, 10:01:16 PM
Quote from: 50 CentiphileAnd to add to this, it must advance the story.
Can't we have a Virginia Woolf-esque moment of detailed introspection?
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Post by: cine on April 25, 2004, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanCan't we have a Virginia Woolf-esque moment of detailed introspection?
Well, of course, if it's good.  :wink:

But it's more fun to at least advance the story somehow..
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 25, 2004, 10:13:53 PM
i dont mean to sound like a redneck..but if this thread could be moved to the "Art Gallery" ..it could be the coup de maitre in that forum.....and get some clicks on it.......
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Post by: Thrindle on April 25, 2004, 10:19:19 PM
Is making a list of participants (you know, so that everyone has a chance but in a certain order) too rule oriented?  Then there isn't the hassle of conflicting plotlines.
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Post by: picolas on April 25, 2004, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: ThrindleIs making a list of participants (you know, so that everyone has a chance but in a certain order) too rule oriented?
yes. but i see what you're saying.

my idea is this:

in the event of a double post, the first one is the chosen one no matter what, and the second one must be edited to end itself. like "and then they all died."
Title: [proposal: xixax collective story.]
Post by: cron on April 26, 2004, 06:20:44 AM
First of all, it's great to see that you people are in this, all of your opinions are basically what's needed for this thing to work/ kick ass. Seems like we're thinking on the same level.  And I worked on some stuff:

*At least 10 lines per person.
*Start them with the last person's idea, end them with yours.

*I think that as long as people is commited, we can have as many persons working on this as we want, so , forget what I said about limiting the people involved. Picolas' suggestion about the double posts seems correct.

*Corrections  will be encouraged.

*Yep. fun, people.  

That's it.  

I'll post  the beginning  in about 4 hours, if everyone's okay with it.
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Post by: coffeebeetle on April 26, 2004, 09:38:50 AM
Can't wait.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2004, 02:12:06 PM
THE STORY BEGINS HERE:

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=6096
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Post by: cron on April 26, 2004, 05:16:04 PM
it happened.

Quote from: picolas

in the event of a double post, the first one is the chosen one no matter what, and the second one must be edited to end itself. like "and then they all died."
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 26, 2004, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: cronopioit happened.

Quote from: picolas

in the event of a double post, the first one is the chosen one no matter what, and the second one must be edited to end itself. like "and then they all died."
Yeah, so I just edited my post to agree with brad's. That's cool, right?

But I was thinking that maybe we should make a list of writers, saying who goes next. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about double-posts. And if the next person has no addition to make they could either PM the person behind them or just post "pass". How's that sound?
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Post by: cron on April 26, 2004, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13
Quote from: cronopioit happened.

Quote from: picolas

in the event of a double post, the first one is the chosen one no matter what, and the second one must be edited to end itself. like "and then they all died."
Yeah, so I just edited my post to agree with brad's. That's cool, right?

But I was thinking that maybe we should make a list of writers, saying who goes next. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about double-posts. And if the next person has no addition to make they could either PM the person behind them or just post "pass". How's that sound?


i think it would work better if the person who'll write the part, just before starting, posted a message that briefly states the he's writing something at the moment, then simply click the edit button and continue the advancing on the story.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 26, 2004, 06:03:41 PM
What a missed opportunity to use Jeremy's same sock connection. Someone better pick up on it.
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Post by: cron on April 26, 2004, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinWhat a missed opportunity to use Jeremy's same sock connection. Someone better pick up on it.

Why don't you try, Mac? I'm sure you'll amazes us all.
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Post by: El Duderino on April 26, 2004, 06:39:51 PM
i'm on it
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2004, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13Margret Hatcher
Sounds like Margaret Thatcher.  :!:

Let me have the next post... I'll get around to it in a few minutes.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2004, 07:38:32 PM
Banky, can you delete your latest? I kind of, umm, had something planned.
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Post by: cron on April 26, 2004, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

Let me have the next post... I'll get around to it in a few minutes.

this kind of posts should be in the thread.  For explicit comprehension.
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Post by: Banky on April 26, 2004, 07:44:59 PM
yeah i deleted my post and call it after JB.  I will post that im next in the thread following JB's post.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on April 26, 2004, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanMargaret Thatcher
I thought the same when I read it. It's rather funny because we were just reading about her in my Euro. History class.
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Post by: cine on April 26, 2004, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: Bankyyeah i deleted my post and call it after JB. I will post that im next in the thread following JB's post.

This is something I now regret not bringing up earlier when I initially thought of it. But people should always call that they're next in the Art Gallery story thread. Then nobody posts until the new extension has been added. The person who said "I'm next" will type their work and EDIT their "I'm next" post to keep everything clean in the thread without any double posts.

I hope this makes sense with everyone.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2004, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: BankyI will post that im next in the thread following JB's post
Make sure you read my post carefully, especially the end.

Sorry about the plot twist.

Quote from: 50 CentiphileThe person who said "I'm next" will type their work and EDIT their "I'm next" post to keep everything clean in the thread without any double posts.
That's perfect.
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Post by: El Duderino on April 26, 2004, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Sorry about the plot twist.

funky.....nice job.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 26, 2004, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanMargaret Thatcher
I thought the same when I read it.
Great.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Make sure you read my post carefully, especially the end.

Sorry about the plot twist.
Confused the hell out of me.
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Post by: Banky on April 26, 2004, 08:41:33 PM
actually, somone else take it next.  I dont know where yo go after that.
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Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 26, 2004, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Pubrickwalrus' freak out is unwarranted. as is his current hostility.

Sorry.  :cry:
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Post by: mogwai on April 26, 2004, 11:05:12 PM
psycho.
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Post by: cron on April 27, 2004, 03:28:33 AM
Quotei think it would work better if the person who'll write the part, just before starting, posted a message that briefly states the he's writing something at the moment, then simply click the edit button and continue advancing on the story.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: 50 CentiphileThe person who said "I'm next" will type their work and EDIT their "I'm next" post to keep everything clean in the thread without any double posts.
That's perfect.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 27, 2004, 08:57:15 AM
I didn't know we were doing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 27, 2004, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI didn't know we were doing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

maybe we should limit the # of dream seequences & flashbacks.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 27, 2004, 11:28:39 AM
uh, or only let them happen when they actually add sumthing to the character and not just begin a whole new story randomly, disregarding all that has gone on before.

yeah.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 27, 2004, 11:34:34 AM
Quote from: Pubrickuh, or only let them happen when they actually add sumthing to the character and not just begin a whole new story randomly, disregarding all that has gone on before.

yeah.

I simply thought ranemaka13's last line and action was a perfect end of a chapter/section/location/whatever you want to call it.  I thought it was time for a new location.  I don't like the idea of calling the previous person's section a flashback or a dream sequence because you didn't like it.  It's an insult to that person.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 27, 2004, 11:40:28 AM
well, let's just apply the same logic and say that i thought ur bit was self-contained and mine was rejoining the character outside the chick's apartment. ppl who want to talk about Creed can continue ur story parallel to the one already established, and if they're good they can connect them somehow.

applying the same logic.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 27, 2004, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Pubrickwell, let's just apply the same logic and say that i thought ur bit was self-contained and mine was rejoining the character outside the chick's apartment. ppl who want to talk about Creed can continue ur story parallel to the one already established, and if they're good they can connect them somehow.

applying the same logic.

fine, delete my entry. i'm done.
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Post by: Raikus on April 27, 2004, 12:14:14 PM
C'mon, everyone knows the P stands for 'Prick.'

You may not have liked the direction, P, but that's the purpose of the excercise--to continue other people's work, not domineer it and make it yours.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 27, 2004, 12:55:14 PM
what's the problem?

SHAFTR's addition had nothing to do with anything that had gone on before, how was that continuing anyone's work? i even suggested a compromise and he reacted like a baby. jesus christ. it's not that confusing.

and if u want to abandon logic by not understand what i just said, u can't even argue with what i posted in the story thread, it's not different to what anyone else had done. OH WAIT it was different cos i actually tried to create a coherent character and connect it to the story we were telling.
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Post by: Raikus on April 27, 2004, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: Pubrickwhat's the problem?

SHAFTR's addition had nothing to do with anything that had gone on before, how was that continuing anyone's work? i even suggested a compromise and he reacted like a baby. jesus christ. it's not that confusing.

and if u want to abandon logic by not understand what i just said, u can't even argue with what i posted in the story thread, it's not different to what anyone else had done. OH WAIT it was different cos i actually tried to create a coherent character and connect it to the story we were telling.
The problem is he inacted a scene change which was completely fine. Then you neglect to carry his story and throw in another scene change immediately all under the ruse of "his contribution not being good enough."

That's lame. And it's lame of you to make that pompous decision.
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Post by: SoNowThen on April 27, 2004, 01:02:26 PM
And it took about a day for the experiment to fail.

Creative group activities are such good ideas...
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Post by: cron on April 27, 2004, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenAnd it took about a day for the experiment to fail.

Creative group activities are such good ideas...


Hey hey hey, you ain't seen nothing yet, compadre.

But c'mon,  that Creed thing was genuinely cheap. Let's try to avoid those uninspired transitions.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 27, 2004, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: RaikusThe problem is he inacted a scene change which was completely fine. Then you neglect to carry his story and throw in another scene change immediately all under the ruse of "his contribution not being good enough."

That's lame. And it's lame of you to make that pompous decision.
hav u even read the story?

after JB's "twist", there were TWO new stories begun in the succeeding posts. how is what i did any different to the trend that was developing? ranemaka started a completely new story because JB did the first flashback to ignore the pitbull incident, and it lead itself to a new story. SHAFTR then ignored Ranemaka's bit and started another one again. and i havn't even mentioned that ranemaka's ended with the dude touching himself inside her house! how the FUCK can u pretend that is an ending? if anything it is a set-up for a million things that could go wrong, or right depending on how freaky she is.

seriously, the only thing ruined here is continuity, and there is no way u can pin that on me.
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Post by: Raikus on April 27, 2004, 01:22:14 PM
I completely agree that the continuity is all over the place. If you guys want to make it work, try to keep it linear with a couple of character introductions that carry through. Plus, someone needs to have an act structure at the very lease to help the story go in a direction.

I read SHAFTR's entry as transition due to ranemaka's pretty stable ending. What was wrong with taking the story from there? The only way the story is going to work is if people base it pretty much off the last poster instead of creating 30 paragraph exerpts and try to hammer it into something cohesive. And it's not just you, P, making transitions, but you were the first to basically throw someone's contribution back into their face which was rude.

The story is going to take twists that someone doesn't like, but everyone needs to stick with the twists and flesh them out better before throwing in a completely new one.
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Post by: cron on April 27, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
Please. If you're unhappy with it or you want it to change for better, throw your contribution.  :wink:
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Post by: Raikus on April 27, 2004, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: cronopioPlease. If you're unhappy with it or you want it to change for better, throw your contribution.  :wink:
I wasn't criticizing. I was trying to critique. From a reader's standpoint the story is hard to grasp so far. I may try to contribute in the future, but with the day I'm having I'd probably end up killing the main character if I wrote something now.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 27, 2004, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: RaikusAnd it's not just you, P, making transitions, but you were the first to basically throw someone's contribution back into their face which was rude.

The story is going to take twists that someone doesn't like, but everyone needs to stick with the twists and flesh them out better before throwing in a completely new one.
why are u being like this? oh u remembered that u hate me, ok that's cool.

u are constantly contradicting urself with double-standards. why is SHAFTR's thing so damn miraculous that it cannot be attached to mine? or given the same treatment that u granted his handling of Ranemaka's? it's a matter of opinion that i was "rude", i found it incredibly rude that he started a whole new story when it wasn't necessary. but instead of crying like a little girl i changed the story. it's not even like i started a RANDOM fuggin thing like he did, i connected it to what everyone else had no problem talking about. and even THEN to appease him i offered a way to keep his story intact, to start a parallel thread about the apartment complex.

listen, that's all i hav to say about it, if u want to think u "won" this argument based on my "rudeness", whatever. i think ppl can read this themsleves and see that i'm the one being fair, and that u just wanted to chime in with ur "prick" comment.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 27, 2004, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: RaikusIf you guys want to make it work, try to keep it linear with a couple of character introductions that carry through. Plus, someone needs to have an act structure at the very lease to help the story go in a direction.
Where'd you come from, Syd Field?

By the way, creative disagreements are healthy.
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Post by: molly on April 27, 2004, 01:46:07 PM
Maybe you should abandom COLLECTIVE STORY idea, and change it to a writing "contest". Someone should make guidelines for the story, and everybody will make his story with that. It would be fun to see how the stories will differ, don't you think?
When i say "contest", i mean that the award should be something symbolical.
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Post by: cine on April 27, 2004, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: mollyMaybe you should abandom COLLECTIVE STORY idea, and change it to a writing "contest".
No, a collective story is more fun... which reminds me:

Quote from: Earlier in this thread, IIt should be something fun to start with where people can happily add something a bit surreal but helpful to the story.

Quote from: Then RegularKarateYes, FUN is the key here... if you try to make it too serious, it's gonna get fucked right out the door. Too many conflicting styles and levels of intelligence.

At least START with something fun.

But we were ignored.
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Post by: Raikus on April 27, 2004, 02:03:37 PM
Sorry P, don't know you, don't hate you. I already explained that I could see SHAFTR's entry working as a transition. So read what I already said or don't.

You didn't just write a different entry, you responded in this thread with distaste for the previous entry:
Quote from: Pubrickuh, or only let them happen when they actually add sumthing to the character and not just begin a whole new story randomly, disregarding all that has gone on before.

yeah.
That's the rude comment I was talking about. But you're right. I had thought up the P = Prick connection months ago and this just provided the perfect opportunity for me to spring it.

Oh yes, oh yes. I'm so giddy now.
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Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: RaikusIf you guys want to make it work, try to keep it linear with a couple of character introductions that carry through. Plus, someone needs to have an act structure at the very lease to help the story go in a direction.
Where'd you come from, Syd Field?

By the way, creative disagreements are healthy.
Damn, sniffed me out. And I agree creative disagreements are healthy. I was just trying to add my two cense about the story thus far. I apologize if it read as anything other than that. I'm just trying to apply my English major to some use.
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Post by: ono on April 27, 2004, 03:34:05 PM
I think the arguments that have broken out over this already are a shame, and that's probably why I stayed out of participating up to this point.

I've seen this kind of endeavor on other sites, and it's never really successful unless there is a SOLID sense of organization and planning.  So if you want my advice, and are serious about doing this, I'd say step back, take a deep breath, and let crono try to get things together a bit better (it was his idea).  I say you go in a very certain rotational order, or at least try to stick to one post per hour, or maybe a the little "dibs" thing Cinephile mentioned.  Not that you need a whole forum for this, but it might help if both threads you were working in were in the same forum.

Bottom line is, you put the cart before the horse, and that's why all the chaos.  Stop.  Fix that.  You'll be fine.  Just a few thoughts.  Carry on.
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Post by: cron on April 27, 2004, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: OnomatopitaI think the arguments that have broken out over this already are a shame, and that's probably why I stayed out of participating up to this point.

I've seen this kind of endeavor on other sites, and it's never really successful unless there is a SOLID sense of organization and planning.  So if you want my advice, and are serious about doing this, I'd say step back, take a deep breath, and let crono try to get things together a bit better (it was his idea).  I say you go in a very certain rotational order, or at least try to stick to one post per hour, or maybe a the little "dibs" thing Cinephile mentioned.  Not that you need a whole forum for this, but it might help if both threads you were working in were in the same forum.

Bottom line is, you put the cart before the horse, and that's why all the chaos.  Stop.  Fix that.  You'll be fine.  Just a few thoughts.  Carry on.

Thanks , O.  It's true,  if we want to avoid mistakes like those, we need better organisation.  What I propose is this:

*If it's evident that the mayority disagrees with a Post, the post will be deleted.

*Don't continue the story if you don't feel you can advance the story , fix it, or improve it.  The ideal situation would be to post if you feel inspired.

*Finish your post with a hook, so that the other person can interpret your last idea . Instead of just posting something conflict-free.



Quote*Suggestions will be encouraged.
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Post by: Thrindle on April 27, 2004, 04:15:26 PM
So what if SHAFTR's addition didn't fit a certain mold!?  I must say that I enjoyed his writing style, and I liked that he was adding depth to our main character.

The main thing here is just to try and advance the story.  So far (thus, my lack of contribution) the tone has that "tug of war" feel to it, where people who don't like one thing, make it a dream, and move on.  Let's develope the characters... get a little plot happening here.

And if anyone wants to slam me for being critical.  Go right ahead.  These are just observations from an outside viewer.
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Post by: cron on April 27, 2004, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: ThrindleSo what if SHAFTR's addition didn't fit a certain mold!?  I must say that I enjoyed his writing style, and I liked that he was adding depth to our main character.

The main thing here is just to try and advance the story.  So far (thus, my lack of contribution) the tone has that "tug of war" feel to it, where people who don't like one thing, make it a dream, and move on.  Let's develope the characters... get a little plot happening here.

And if anyone wants to slam me for being critical.  Go right ahead.  These are just observations from an outside viewer.

You're completely right,  Shaftr's style is cool, but I think his whole scenery was misplaced.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 27, 2004, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: Thrindleget a little plot happening here.
IGNORE THRINDLE.
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Post by: Thrindle on April 27, 2004, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Thrindleget a little plot happening here.
IGNORE THRINDLE.

Or don't, because so far we have a green sock wearing, masturbating in mansion, creed listening to roommate, and laundry soaked man... all just kickin it without sequence in the same story.

All because people are yanking the plot in their own directions.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 27, 2004, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: Pubrick
after JB's "twist", there were TWO new stories begun in the succeeding posts. how is what i did any different to the trend that was developing? ranemaka started a completely new story because JB did the first flashback to ignore the pitbull incident, and it lead itself to a new story.
I thought I was continuing JB's post, actually. I swear the previous incident's were just a dream and he was waking up from it. So, I figured he'd wake up in an apartment..... somehow. I swear, I thought it was the same character, same story.
Or maybe I've just gotten confuddled again.

Quoteand i havn't even mentioned that ranemaka's ended with the dude touching himself inside her house! how the FUCK can u pretend that is an ending? if anything it is a set-up for a million things that could go wrong, or right depending on how freaky she is.
This is what I was hoping for.

Quote from: Thrindleget a little plot happening here.
I think the problem is that there's one too many plots trying to go on at the same time? But, this sort of thing should've been expected when we started. I mean, no two people will usually see the same story enough to continue it in a perfectly coherent and normal fashion.
Besides, this is our first go-round (as far as I know), so it's not supposed to be perfect.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 27, 2004, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13I thought I was continuing JB's post, actually. I swear the previous incident's were just a dream and he was waking up from it. So, I figured he'd wake up in an apartment..... somehow.
At the end of my post, he was waking up in his car.  :? ... Oh well.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 27, 2004, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: ranemaka13I thought I was continuing JB's post, actually. I swear the previous incident's were just a dream and he was waking up from it. So, I figured he'd wake up in an apartment..... somehow.
At the end of my post, he was waking up in his car.  :? ... Oh well.
Oh, poopsicle. :oops:

But shouldn't he be in a taxi since that's how he got to the house?
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2004, 03:56:32 PM
So is this one dead and time for a new one, or...?
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Post by: cine on April 28, 2004, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinSo is this one dead and time for a new one, or...?
We're still waiting for cbrad...

*checks his digital watch*
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2004, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: 50 CentiphileWe're still waiting for cbrad...

I thought we were playing schoolyard rules on this: You snooze, you lose. Xixax waits for no one.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 28, 2004, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinI thought we were playing schoolyard rules on this: You snooze, you lose. Xixax waits for no one.
You're so mean. This is far from dead, my friend.  :nono:
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Post by: cron on April 28, 2004, 04:14:53 PM
I'll be waiting for Mac's contribution.  

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brucebalan.com%2Fimages%2Fanxious.jpg&hash=039d4835b53d283bd6605512dc426ebe6c9b6a5f)
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2004, 04:16:51 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThis is far from dead, my friend.  :nono:

I guess when it starts showing up on some member's brother's best friend's girlfriend's lips, I guess we'll know if it's dead.

Quote from: cronopioI'll be waiting for Mac's contribution.

Not on this go 'round.
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Post by: molly on April 28, 2004, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: cronopioI'll be waiting for Mac's contribution.

Not on this go 'round.

:yabbse-cry:
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Post by: cine on April 28, 2004, 04:42:22 PM
If cbrad's entry isn't gold, I will bury the story into the ground.  :yabbse-wink:
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Post by: ©brad on April 28, 2004, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: 50 CentiphileIf cbrad's entry isn't gold, I will bury the story into the ground.  :yabbse-wink:

i'm working on it as we speak
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Post by: Banky on April 28, 2004, 10:57:39 PM
you gotta work faster than that.  We need to start a new story if this one continues to go in every different direction.  Maybe CBrad will start a cohesive narrative.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 28, 2004, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: Bankycohesive narrative
:yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: ©brad on April 28, 2004, 11:13:57 PM
my bad y'all. i thought i had something but its not looking as good on screen as it did in my head.

someone else can go if i don't post in the next 10 minutes.
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Post by: Banky on April 28, 2004, 11:16:33 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Bankycohesive narrative
:yabbse-thumbdown:

?
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Post by: cine on April 28, 2004, 11:21:03 PM
Quote from: ©bradmy bad y'all. i thought i had something but its not looking as good on screen as it did in my head.
Haha, for the record, I was only kidding about burying the story if you didn't produce gold...
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 28, 2004, 11:24:31 PM
Quote from: Banky?
Exactly.
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Post by: Banky on April 28, 2004, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Banky?
Exactly.

oh ok...................
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Post by: ©brad on April 28, 2004, 11:31:59 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: ©bradmy bad y'all. i thought i had something but its not looking as good on screen as it did in my head.
Haha, for the record, I was only kidding about burying the story if you didn't produce gold...

too much pressure!...  :wink:
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 29, 2004, 12:18:05 PM
*pokes story with a stick to test it's deadness*

Quote from: BankyWe need to start a new story if this one continues to go in every different direction.

I'm all for starting muliple stories/threads just for variety.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 29, 2004, 02:05:58 PM
NO

Does this mean it's my fault?
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 30, 2004, 09:58:46 AM
*looks at Dillinger; looks at thread, and tries to determine which one is deader*
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Post by: ono on April 30, 2004, 10:01:44 AM
Maybe, to keep things moving, there should be a limit as to how long someone has to post their addition after saying "next?"  Like 12 hours?
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 30, 2004, 10:03:59 AM
Somebody just post something. Or we can all brainstorm.
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Post by: SoNowThen on April 30, 2004, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin*looks at Dillinger; looks at thread, and tries to determine which one is deader*

:lol:
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 30, 2004, 10:08:02 AM
The thread is just waiting for a new post...
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Post by: picolas on April 30, 2004, 05:23:29 PM
i suggest a new story begins after every 15th reply.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 30, 2004, 06:06:13 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.home.nl%2Fozz-works%2FImages%2FSmilies%2F153.gif&hash=9a6b31478347bc7860da1cb22cd68fb8b9785667)
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 30, 2004, 06:09:52 PM
Stop that!
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Post by: Pubrick on May 01, 2004, 12:38:29 AM
ok every new addition has to kill the character in bizarre ways.

and we do that until we lose interest.
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Post by: Thrindle on May 02, 2004, 11:13:12 AM
First and foremost:

Quote from: NEON MERCURYhe ran like a coked-out prefontaine
This imagery made me laugh.  I had the best mental picture.   :-D

Seriously though,  the group story idea was awesome...  and I really don't think we should give up just yet.  Anyone feel like round 2???  

Now that we understand a few of the flaws we can build on it...  so whaddaya say?
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Post by: cron on May 02, 2004, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: ThrindleFirst and foremost:

Quote from: NEON MERCURYhe ran like a coked-out prefontaine
This imagery made me laugh.  I had the best mental picture.   :-D

Seriously though,  the group story idea was awesome...  and I really don't think we should give up just yet.  Anyone feel like round 2???  

Now that we understand a few of the flaws we can build on it...  so whaddaya say?


I'd love to , but I won't be able today.
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Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2004, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: ThrindleSeriously though,  the group story idea was awesome...  and I really don't think we should give up just yet.  Anyone feel like round 2???  

Now that we understand a few of the flaws we can build on it...  so whaddaya say?

I've been wanting to start a new story.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 02, 2004, 12:01:53 PM
Let's do a round 2, then, if that's what people want.

Though I'm still completely dumbfounded by the lack of interest in the current story. It has so much potential.
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Post by: Thrindle on May 02, 2004, 12:02:35 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinI've been wanting to start a new story.

I nominate Mac as the new story starter.  

(no offense to Crono... But it will give it a different flavour)
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Post by: cron on May 02, 2004, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: Thrindle
Quote from: MacGuffinI've been wanting to start a new story.

I nominate Mac as the new story starter.  

(no offense to Crono... But it will give it a different flavour)

haha, yeah, i'm anxious to see that ,too.
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Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2004, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: ThrindleI nominate Mac as the new story starter.

If that's the concensus, then I'll have something up by tonight (since I'm finally going to see Kill Bill 2 today).
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 02, 2004, 12:43:37 PM
:arrow:  :arrow:  :arrow:

(picolas moment)
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Post by: molly on May 02, 2004, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: ThrindleI nominate Mac as the new story starter.

If that's the concensus, then I'll have something up by tonight (since I'm finally going to see Kill Bill 2 today).

it is 8)
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Post by: cine on May 02, 2004, 02:15:16 PM
Can we make round 2 a little bit more FUN please-and-thank-you???
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 03, 2004, 09:29:30 PM
I didn't know we were doing Pulp Fiction.
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on May 03, 2004, 09:57:12 PM
damn, i guess i shouldn t make an attempt to add my creative part to the new story since i killed the last one and everyone started  over... :(
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Post by: picolas on May 03, 2004, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURYdamn, i guess i shouldn t make an attempt to add my creative part to the new story since i killed the last one and everyone started  over... :(
whaaaaaa.

naw. if anything, you were like those people who blow really comically on hot coals that've stopped burining.
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Post by: El Duderino on May 03, 2004, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI didn't know we were doing Pulp Fiction.

we're not.....are we?  :yabbse-huh:
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Post by: cine on May 03, 2004, 10:13:49 PM
Quote from: El Duderino
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI didn't know we were doing Pulp Fiction.

we're not.....are we?  :yabbse-huh:
You'll need to see Pulp Fiction to get it..
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on May 03, 2004, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: picolas
Quote from: NEON MERCURYdamn, i guess i shouldn t make an attempt to add my creative part to the new story since i killed the last one and everyone started  over... :(
whaaaaaa.

naw. if anything, you were like those people who blow really comically on hot coals that've stopped burining.

..thanks... :-D ...
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 04, 2004, 10:44:50 AM
Raikus, that was beautiful!
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Post by: Raikus on May 04, 2004, 11:50:41 AM
:-D  Thanks.
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Post by: El Duderino on May 05, 2004, 09:34:53 AM
hey, it rhymes!
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Post by: Raikus on May 07, 2004, 11:42:10 AM
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We're going to have our own story cemetery if it keeps going like this.
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Post by: El Duderino on May 07, 2004, 06:25:09 PM
i dont think that was helpful at all, but oh well. have a gander.  :lookatthis:
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Post by: ono on May 16, 2004, 01:12:07 AM
Quote from: Raikus
Quote from: MacGuffin(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.home.nl%2Fozz-works%2FImages%2FSmilies%2F153.gif&hash=9a6b31478347bc7860da1cb22cd68fb8b9785667)
We're going to have our own story cemetery if it keeps going like this.
Yep.  *readies smelling salts*  Or at the rate things are going now, embalming fluids.
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Post by: cine on May 18, 2004, 05:22:39 PM
The novelty of Jimmy Ray lasted longer than this.