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Title: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on May 05, 2013, 07:43:55 PM
So, the other thing I've been busy on is struggling like hell to make a second feature called "Psychotropic Sunrise". As the title suggests, there are drugs in this film, used by young people. And in the midst of the drug war in Mexico the usual routes for funding films (via the government) have been impossible. The team behind me is pretty solid this time, particularly regarding the involvement of my producer-photographer and his company, who is also a director and a very celebrated one among the european festivals including venice. Yet after applying to a couple of those funds it became obvious (and we heard some comments regarding that subject unoficially) that any film dealing with drugs in the fashion of my movie was a no-go...

So now we are crowdfunding it on the mexican equivalent of kickstarter. We are asking for very little, really...roughly 14, 000 dlls. But in Mexico that kind of money is not that easy to come by, and it actually makes a production possible, with every restraint. No one involved is receiving salary, and we are a lot of people so far. But the money of course is to pay for the most urgent needs that appear during shooting, like food, gasoline, locations, permits, etcetera...

So anyway, please take a look, and if someone somewhere feels compelled to contribute with anything I will be eternally grateful. Any questions, pm or email me.

Thanks guys.
Here is the link:
http://fondeadora.mx/projects/manana-psicotropica-psychotropic-sunrise

the info is in english too.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on August 13, 2013, 02:19:17 PM
just to let you know. we finished shooting last week. :)
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Reel on August 14, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!


That's an irresistible title. I have to see it.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on August 16, 2013, 02:50:19 PM
thanks, man!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2013, 01:27:52 PM
this is our facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/mananapsicotropica

Our kickstarter like campaign was a real nightmare and we ended up having a budget way lower than we wanted. I won't say the amount because that trivializes everything but it was really an absurd amount.

we shot for 19 days and it was a painful and exhausting experience for me. a crazy, crazy, insane shooting. many setbacks and unforeseen events. cars broke down at crucial moments, actors left at the last moment and had to be replaced instantly (I was at some point shooting a scene and doing a casting session between breaks), we fought the weather like mad, plenty of burning sun, winds, mud, rain, 16 hour days, night shootings, not enough extras and picking people on the street, on the spot. really an amazing experience all the way. I ended up every day thinking if I actually wanted to do this again. I went from "ok we're getting this done fine" to "ok, let's finish this day, let's get through the day and we'll be ok" to "let's do this shot, let's just do this shot so I can move on, if I can just get this shot done I will be on the other side"...

now we are working on making a first cut, very rough, for a deadline concerning a work in progress calling in some festival. the deadline is august 30...don't know if we will make it. but as soon as I have something to show I will...
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on August 18, 2013, 05:08:29 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on August 18, 2013, 01:27:52 PMI ended up every day thinking if I actually wanted to do this again. I went from "ok we're getting this done fine" to "ok, let's finish this day, let's get through the day and we'll be ok" to "let's do this shot, let's just do this shot so I can move on, if I can just get this shot done I will be on the other side"...
lol. you're a good worker :)

peeped the facebook, can you please translate the synopsis into english? of course google could do that for me, but that wouldn't be a creative translation, no. i'd think of you as a mess of words, when you don't at all appear to be. long question. in summary: please

and,

!!!!
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU1eb2ch.jpg&hash=f2436141b50d36c0a6c15e069cad3bad789d6b19)

edit -- oh nm, that's all done in the first post's link. including the cat photo! i'll be damned

another edit, yeahyeah, mmmhm -- i have things i have to do today, like things i should be doing. but asap got into this, all of this

Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Neil on August 19, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
Glad to hear you're pressin' on regardless of the hardships my friend. Get it done and on to the next one. I'm sure it'll be great. I look forward to the pleasure of viewing it!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Just Withnail on August 20, 2013, 03:27:56 AM
In the trenches! Post some footage once the pressure dies down a bit, can't wait to see what you're up to. And yes, that title! Is really good.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 25, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
totally forgot to post these here...here they are. still working on finishing this thing.




Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Cloudy on December 25, 2013, 04:31:58 PM
These teasers are fantastic! Good work, I'm thoroughly anticipating this, I'm sure the responses to these are gonna give you a nice jolt of energy to really finely tune this thing. Excited!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on December 25, 2013, 10:45:14 PM
i was already positive and now i'm more than positive, about liking this
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 26, 2013, 12:48:38 AM
Wow, this looks quite legit.

Can you tell us what the message/perspective of the film is, concerning drugs, or would that be a spoiler?
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
thanks guys.
we did these teasers because one of the executive producers did a stand up comedy show a few weeks ago in mexico city, where the earnings went to the film and we wanted to show something there.

editing is almost finished and next step is figuring out the route towards finishing the post. we are applying to a couple of mexican funds, let's see how that goes. competition is too tough here, too many movies, too little options for funding a postproduction. no one has money.

about the drugs, I just wanted to make a film that was closer to my own experience with drugs than what I've been seeing in movies throughout my life, I definitely didn't want to make a "pro" or "anti" drugs movie at all. didn't want to make a stoner comedy or a tragedy on the downward spiral of addiction...hard for me to explain the film's stance on the subject.

One revealing piece of info (I don't think that shows in the final film but still) is that I had been trying to figure out a way to write a movie on this subject but never knew how until I rewatched Robert Altman's California Split and bam, next day I was already writing non stop.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 26, 2013, 11:16:56 AM
Quote from: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 02:32:52 AMabout the drugs, I just wanted to make a film that was closer to my own experience with drugs than what I've been seeing in movies throughout my life, I definitely didn't want to make a "pro" or "anti" drugs movie at all. didn't want to make a stoner comedy or a tragedy on the downward spiral of addiction...hard for me to explain the film's stance on the subject.

Interesting. That's definitely the vibe I get from the teasers, too. But at the risk of offering unsolicited advice, I'll just say this. If you're actually interested in making it neither "pro" nor "anti" drugs, well, that kind of neutrality is going to be virtually impossible. The nature of film is just going to push it toward the "pro" end automatically. It's kind of like war movies; war naturally looks exciting on film. Unfortunately, without a message you're at the mercy of what naturally happens when you put drugs on film without comment. Indifference is de facto approval, which drifts easily into glamorization. The obvious aesthetic beauty of your film (the artful shots of smoke etc.) might only exacerbate this. I apologize if I'm misjudging the film, and I certainly have a point of view here, but that's my feeling on it.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on December 26, 2013, 12:19:03 PM
having an unexpected "i can relate to this from personal experience" moment. i've displayed drug use, it's a tricky option -- mine, there's actually a statement about this, and the method itself is a headscratcher. but i know what jb means, displaying it promotes the streisand effect. at the end of the day, with any such problem, i choose to see art as a mirror of reality. if it exists off screen i won't censor it from the screen, and i remember the foundation is indeed off screen
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
Yes, you are right completely in all accounts. I just don't think my job as an artist is to warn people about the dangers of drugs, nor is it to make an ad for drug use. Point of view is unavoidable, and I am a libertarian in that sense, I don't believe in prohibition and I basically think that regarding the recreational use of drugs, people should have the freedom to find answers for themselves. Drugs and food, and alcohol and partying, smoking, sex, and pretty much anything that includes fun in life has the potential to become a problem for individuals and societies, but I don't think prohibition is the answer there.

As I said, most film dealing with drugs as a "main subject" sooner or later impose a moral judgement on the characters regarding their use of drugs, there is always some sort of "punishment" in the serious films, or in the case of stoner comedies, characters tend to be portrayed as idiotic because they smoke pot, like they can't do anything but laugh non stop or say lame things or get the munchies. This is in tune with the official discourse of the war on drugs, the message being that drugs can be fun but they're ultimately unable to offer much more than that. This film definitely aims to show another side of the story. Not only because it's important to me personally, but because we in Mexico, are literally living the worst consequences of that "drugs are bad" philosophy, when it becomes institutionalized. In fact, I wrote the screenplay during the worst moment of the drug war in my city, with people shooting each other on the streets, hand grenades being thrown to cops, kidnappings, robberies out of control, completely corrupted police forces violating individual freedoms and entering houses without warrants, and just a general depressing atmosphere of violence and awfulness. More than a way to answer to this politically, I guess I did all this to answer to that situation emotionally. There is a mexican film called Heli, by Amat Escalante, which deals with the subject of drug trafficking gone bad. It's a horribly disturbing movie, and there's people saying "well, that's reality in Mexico". But my movie is reality in Mexico too, and the question to me is what reality seems less hurtful.

I guess a lot of these things will hopefully become clearer when you have the chance to see the film, and also that is not only about drugs. The subject is hot shit in Mexico, and is inevitable to get some heated opinions on it, let's hope that actually helps me to find a festival where to show it and then a good audience to share it with.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 26, 2013, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 12:34:21 PMDrugs and food, and alcohol and partying, smoking, sex, and pretty much anything that includes fun in life has the potential to become a problem for individuals and societies

I don't want to sound harsh, but as someone who has seen people very close to me have problems with drugs and alcohol, lumping those things together with food and sex and fun is cataclysmically ignorant.

I'm not even talking about politics, law, policy, or the drug war. I'm more interested in this as a cultural conversation. (And your film, as I understand it, is engaging in on that same level.)

I think an artist should take ownership of their own cultural effect. Not necessarily to alter it, but at least to consider it and acknowledge it. That is sort of why this is jarring to me:

Quote from: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 12:34:21 PMthe official discourse of the war on drugs, the message being that drugs can be fun but they're ultimately unable to offer much more than that. This film definitely aims to show another side of the story. Not only because it's important to me personally, but because we in Mexico, are literally living the worst consequences of that "drugs are bad" philosophy, when it becomes institutionalized.

It sounds like you do have a point of view and you're looking to affect the policy conversation, at least in a small way, by engaging with the cultural conversation, but there is a chasm of a disconnect.

If your engagement with the cultural conversation really is going to be "drugs... maybe not so bad?" then I can't wrap my head around all the various dimensions through which I object to that. While it's obviously true that not every drug user becomes instantly addicted or has their life destroyed, it happens, and it happens on a disastrous scale, and this is precarious advocacy indeed.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on December 26, 2013, 02:21:01 PM
let's split this into somewhere else? excited about alexandro's movie!!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
I understand and i thank you for these words. I also ask you to be patient here, as I'm talking about my own work and everyone knows, it's hard to be as eloquent about one's own work as it is easy to be about someone else's. I've also had family and friends affected by drug use and alcohol to the point of losing their lives. I've also had family and friends being able to deal with that. More even, than the former. I lump all those things together because I am talking about addiction, and you seem to be talking about the thing. Those are different things. If you ask me, I would say I'm against addiction, but who isn't? That would be a silly point to make, and even sillier to make a film to make it. But as you point out, not everyone becomes addicted to bad things, not every gambler loses his house because he can't stop, not every drinker gets hammered and drives at 110mph and crashes into some house, and not every drug user kills his grandmother for a fix. My personal viewpoint on it is that prohibition to those things are not the solution to the problem of addiction, which is the real problem regarding those subjects in my view.

I don't think the world needs another anti-drug commercial in the form of a film, and it would be as silly to try and "promote" drugs. My job as I see it is to show something truthful and I will have to trust people will judge wisely if, in their lives, they want to do drugs or not, although I hope that my movie, or any movie for that matter, serves a bigger purpose than being an excuse (and I underline that word, because that's what it is) for people to do drugs or not doing them.

It's not that I don't want to participate in the conversation on the subject of drugs, I do want to. But I'm not here to tell people what to think of them either in the sense of "drugs are good or bad?", because that's just too simplistic and to be honest, I don't think anyone can answer for each individual case of drug use in the world. What I want is to show another slice of that cake, another story within that story, because I believe that is valid too. I can't avoid the political implications, and the drug war implicit reference because this is the context in which the film is made, but because of that is that I chose to put in the table a point of view that, yes, will get averse reactions. And I take responsibility for that point of view. If putting that out there is irresponsible, then any other point of view on the subject is. And it certainly (and this is a very personal opinion) is not as irresponsible as the war on drugs after the disaster it has been. And I hope audiences can see the film and, like you, look at the big picture, and wonder about the implications, good and bad, of what there's onscreen.

I hope we can discuss this again once the film is seen.


Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 26, 2013, 05:43:17 PM
I obviously have an axe to grind and I'm being less than polite (sorry about that), and I don't want to derail your thread (although I think it's on topic), so I'll try to take a deep breath and be brief...

Quote from: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 02:33:54 PMI lump all those things together because I am talking about addiction, and you seem to be talking about the thing. Those are different things. If you ask me, I would say I'm against addiction, but who isn't?

I think it's self-evident that addictive drugs belong in their own category here. Certainly there are gradations, but we're talking about substances that are directly chemically addictive, not behaviorally addictive, not addictive simply for their rewards. That is a scientifically meaningful distinction. And some things are just vastly more addictive than others. To use one of your examples, the number of people who have a serious addiction problem with food is pretty low proportional to the number of people who eat food. (The fact that you've added gambling to the list probably means we won't agree on this.) It doesn't make sense to lump everything that is addictive, disregarding its actual addictiveness, into the "fun" category.

(Also, as someone who doesn't drink or use drugs, your "fun" list is kind of reductive and annoying.)

The extent to which I disagree with you so severely on all of that got me quite worked up that you were taking on this issue, and doing it with what could be a very beautiful and persuasive film. And my basic point is that you're wading into these hazardous waters whether you mean to or not.

My argument about responsibility and "taking ownership of your own cultural effect" is entirely my opinion, though, so you can take it or leave it.

Also, though your responses and descriptions have not been reassuring, I don't want to judge the actual movie without having seen it. Perhaps it will do some unexpected things. I guess I just had the urge caution you. And who knows, maybe I've prepared you for some of the responses you'll get when the movie comes out!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on December 26, 2013, 05:43:17 PM
And who knows, maybe I've prepared you for some of the responses you'll get when the movie comes out!

This. Thanks.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on December 26, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
whenever i watch lord of the rings i'm so pissed about elves and the way they flaunt their archery skills. so i can relate
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Cloudy on December 26, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Alexandro, you recommend Heli? I think Reygadas produced that one. Just based on the films you love and these clips and your impressions on Mexico's current atmosphere has me even more hooked.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on December 26, 2013, 07:50:30 PM
Yeah, I recommend Heli and Amat Escalante in general. I'm always baffled by the fact that Steven Spielberg was the president of the cannes jury when Amat won best director for Heli, like what the fuck? Spielberg digs this??

Heli is really good if you are up for the kind of cinema Escalante and Reygadas make. Although I think Reygadas really has carved himself a distinct style while Amat Escalante is still developing from his Bresson/detached/contemporary contemplative influences. My beef with his films is the acting, but so is my beef with Bresson's films. So it's just an stylistic choice that I don't really enjoy.

My favorite Escalante film is Los Bastardos.

Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on September 02, 2015, 10:49:11 PM
well, I guess I should point out that this film is completed.
it was a hard and painful road but we managed (we and like a million people) to raise the money, pay the post (mainly music I was dead set on having) and now it's over.
although my plans were different, for personal reasons I chose to premiere locally in the Monterrey Film festival, where we were apparently huge. We had three full houses and actually had to give our seats so people wouldn't be left out (at least some) on the last showing.
The film already has distribution in Mexico too, and the "official" premiere will be in Mexico city in january, during another festival. We are thinking what to do next, between here and then.
Well, that's it. I'm just relieved it's over, and it was awesome seeing it finished and with a big audience who mainly got it.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on January 23, 2016, 08:49:35 PM
Hey gang.
Psychotropic Sunrise (or Mañana Psicotrópica) will premiere in Mexico City on the 30th during the Distrital Film Festival. All Tenochtitlán locals and visitors are welcome (if you have friends there, recommend it!).
Also, from the 28th on during 7 days, it will be available for "free" (I don't really know what that means in this context) at Festival Scope, which as far as I know is a subscription service, but anyway, if anyone around here enjoys said subscription you can check out the movie over there.
Hopefully later on there will be more news.

Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: cronopio2 on January 23, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
ahí te veo,  canijo.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on January 28, 2016, 11:34:16 AM
you can watch it for free here starting today and ending on the 5th.

https://www.festivalscope.com/all/film/psychotropic-sunrise
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on March 19, 2016, 10:13:43 AM
I don't know if anyone saw this movie here while on Festival Scope.
We had like 240 views there all over the world, doubling the views of any other of the films at the festival, and had full houses too.
Young people love the movie, adults have confronted me in a couple of q&a's about wether is "responsible" to show kids doing drugs and having a good time in a country ravaged by drug wars and/or whether I'm glamourizing drug use. Typicall concerns, but most people get what the film is actually trying to do, so it's cool.

It's been really difficult to get this film into festivals looking to program latin american films. I don't know if it's not "latin" enough or if simply isn't in the style programmers are looking for (usually slow, no music, static camera, bad non actors and "anti narrative" films are what's in, and this is the exact opposite), nevertheless reviews have been pretty good and audience response as well.

Don't know if we have any brazilians at xixax but the film was invited out of the blue to take part at a Cinema Mostra in Rio showcasing "the best of mexican film that hasn't been shown in Brazil", where we are the only new film of the bunch. I'm happy not only because this takes place outside of the usual festival circuit (which I find pretty snobby), but also because we are side by side with some pretty cool films, particularly my favorite mexican film of the decade, Post Tenebras Lux. I mean, that's pretty fucking cool.

In case anyone is in Brazil, here's the info:

http://www.cinemamexicano.com.br

I'm just waiting to see if any american festival will play us before just starting to offer the private link for anyone who asks it to see.

Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on March 19, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
xx
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on April 05, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Didn't know where else to put this, but my good friends in Dominican Republic have uploaded a bunch of international films to watch for free during this emergency.

Among them, my film Psychotropic Sunrise. Also, a film I produced and premiered at Rotterdam, Drown Among the Dead. Another short we made in my company (El Valiente) and others. I highly recommend the Cardenas/Guzmán ones, Cochochi, Jean Gentil, Carmita, Sand Dollars for an out of the world Geraldine Chaplin performance.  All in all, it will be time well spent.

https://www.cinemaboreal.com/

Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on April 06, 2020, 04:06:19 AM
can you direct link to yours i can't figure it out personal embarrassment
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on April 06, 2020, 02:26:29 PM
Quote from: jenkins on April 06, 2020, 04:06:19 AM
can you direct link to yours i can't figure it out personal embarrassment

https://vimeo.com/136377831
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on April 07, 2020, 01:58:26 AM
it's grossly good. it embarrasses the rest of the world how good it is, is what i'm saying. this is what i want. this is what nourishes me. when i shittalk other movies it's because they're not like this and it's the most obviously amazing so it absolutely befuddles me how everybody doesn't watch it movie i've seen since Permanent Green Light. here's a screencap of clouds

(https://i.imgur.com/YqNTUY4.png?1)

it's gorgeous from the first to last shot and you know something special is happening when you want to screencap the clouds. please forgive me if i botch the specifics but i believe the title refers to what this line transmits

(https://i.imgur.com/JRt4GpM.png)

and the whole kind of point is the movie feels like this



and drugs are heavily involved but the crux comes from friends as family. it's beautiful. it moved me in tremendous ways and as i mentioned i believe it operates in full capacity so there's no good reason it's not everywhere. it's the good kind of arthouse film and people should see this. good films should be seen and i don't understand--i truly don't understand--why some like this are seen and others aren't. i think that's the ugly side of the zeitgiest. i think that's art as a social apparatus. i think this movie is the real deal and everybody here should feel blessed to know Alexandro

shoutout to the fact that Mexican fashion from five years ago looks like American fashion today
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on April 07, 2020, 01:39:59 PM
thanks for all the kind words, jenkins.
psychotropic was a film made with pure love, and money... donated by a lot of lovely people. very early on it was clear we would not get the industry support for a film like this one. we tried every development grant, fund, diploma, everything. after that we tried all over for production support. with the exception of two of those "coproduction meetings" things, one from the morelia film festival and one from guanajuato, and with the exception of an award I received in a screenplay contest (which fed me and my family for months) we were roundly, emphatically and almost laughably rejected all over the world. but I just couldn't stop. I don't know what possessed me with this movie. the more "no's" I got, the more I resisted to scrap it. I was lucky in many many ways, and a whole town worth of people helped me, in all sorts of different ways. many of them through years, and eventually as I mentioned, with money via our version of gofundme and the likes.

when the film was done and we tried for the postproduction funds, the sad boring story continued. and when we went for festivals, we mostly got rejected, but by then I already knew what awaited.

there were no few people who warned me along the way, I was apparently doing everything in my power to make this film unappealing for the market. "your actors are too white, you need ethnical people for festivals", "there's too much music, latin cinema uses no music at all", "it's too funny, the humor dilutes the themes", "you are trusting too much people will get this". with my editor - who loved my first film and being one of mexico's top editors was willing to help me out for free - I got into an argument over a sequence which clearly didn't advance the story but I was dead set on keeping for personal reasons and because I believe story isn't everything, and by the third day of this, when he saw I was not folding, he eventually just lay the cards on me: "when you do things this way, you are saying to the people at festivals that you don't do things the way they like it, and they will shut you out, because they don't wanna hear about anyone doing things with this freedom, it's interpreted as capricious". I knew then that was it. But I couldn't change things because of festivals.

Sure enough, he was right. But I made the film I wanted, or as close as I could to what I envisioned, you know, within circumstances. One thing that I've always wondered is if people can see that this was not a microbudget film, but a nanobudget film. Most of the money went to musical rights. Nobody got paid. Even I was under a wrong impression. When we did the gofundme thing, we raised about 6000 dollars. Years later, some guy asked me how much had we spent shooting. I said about 6000 dollars, and my producer (we still work together) was right beside me and said "no, it was less". I said really? how much? He opened up the excel file, showed it to me, we did it we 3000 dollars. I really don't understand how.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: WorldForgot on April 07, 2020, 02:28:36 PM
Ahuevo, Alexandro. An inspiring post --
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Axolotl on August 11, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Stumbled upon it while browsing Mubi (it's available to watch there) and loved it and jenkins pretty much covered why.

Congrats Alexandro :bravo:
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on August 12, 2020, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: Axolotl on August 11, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Stumbled upon it while browsing Mubi (it's available to watch there) and loved it and jenkins pretty much covered why.

Congrats Alexandro :bravo:

thank you axolotl! but what?!? I didn't know that. Is this mubi mexico??
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Axolotl on August 12, 2020, 11:45:12 AM
Quote from: Alexandro on August 12, 2020, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: Axolotl on August 11, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Stumbled upon it while browsing Mubi (it's available to watch there) and loved it and jenkins pretty much covered why.

Congrats Alexandro :bravo:

thank you axolotl! but what?!? I didn't know that. Is this mubi mexico??
What? Haha no, it's available to stream on Mubi here in India. Hope you'll see some of that money.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on May 22, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
So, it turns out the film was on Mubi at some point as part of a festival deal or something and they never took it down. We're still trying to get an answer ...

In any case, I didn't want to start another thread but there are several films out there from Bengala, the company that I co founded with several partners and I wanted to recommend viewing:

I'm no longer here
This one we coproduced, and it came to be actually via a short story contest we do every year where the treatment for this film won the top prize. It was shot in my hometown and I honestly love the final film. It had a bumpy ride at the beginning with festivals and so on but then it started winning awards and was picked up by Netflix (where you can stream it). It got shortlisted for the Foreign Language Academy Award, but sadly didn't make it to the 5 nominees. Still, I like it better than Druk :)

Midday Cowboy
Another one shot in my hometown (mainly), this one's a documentary about a poet who started out as Octavio Paz' favorite (he called him his successor) and ended up as a vagabond in Mexico City, until his mysterious and still unresolved disappearance.  It's also on Netflix.

Close Quarters
a kind of very uncomfortable drama on male sexual inadequacies, I understand it premiered this weekend on HBO Max, only in the US. So there's that.

Drown Among the Dead
artsy to the max, this is a Jodorowsky like fable we shot in the desert, really close to my former house and with absolutely zero money. the lead (who sadly passed away two years ago) is actually the lead in Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain. Too weird for mainstream success, it still managed to go to many festivals, including Rotterdam. You can watch it here:
https://vimeo.com/219899393

El Valiente
Short doc, about an old rancher who faced up the drug cartel trying to take his house away from him. It's a very known story in Mexico, because the guy decided to send his family away and stayed in his ranch by himself, armed up, and waited for the sicarios to come. We are actually shooting the feature right now. This one is directed by the same guy from Midday Cowboy. Both got nominated for the mexican academy award. I co directed with him another short, which actually won, but I'll talk about it below.
https://vimeo.com/352149831

The Busty Doll
This I codirected with Diego, and we ended up winning the mexican academy award for short film doc. I feel weird describing it, so I won't. I don't know if it's viewable outside of Mexico via the filmin latino site. But I can share a private link if someone wants to check it out.

Mamartuille
Another short, fiction. Comedy. It was an absolute festival hit. I understand is currently on HBO. If it's not, very soon I'll update the info (I don't know if I can share that as of now).

In a few months there will be another feature of us on Netflix ("a netflix original") and a teen romantic comedy I cowrote which is actually the first mexican netflix feature film (not picked up but actually developed and produced by them). To be honest I have no idea how that will turn out, but it was a cool experience anyways.

I'll try to keep you guys posted on more stuff. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: WorldForgot on May 22, 2021, 10:13:48 AM
Ahuevo!!! Genial, Alexandro ~
Las vere todas con tiempo, gracias por compartir.

Super inspiring !
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on May 23, 2021, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on May 22, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
The Busty Doll
This I codirected with Diego, and we ended up winning the mexican academy award for short film doc. I feel weird describing it, so I won't. I don't know if it's viewable outside of Mexico via the filmin latino site. But I can share a private link if someone wants to check it out.

lol I mean now I must check it out!!

God I got really into even reading those descriptions. Made me feel happy for you
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: WorldForgot on May 23, 2021, 01:56:59 PM
Raising my hand for a link toooo hehe
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: wilder on May 23, 2021, 06:11:36 PM
Three!
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on May 23, 2021, 06:53:11 PM
All right guys, I'll send the link.

I forgot... but we also did Road to Roma, the Roma making of which you can stream on netflix as well.
I was lucky enough to be on that set for one day, which was... well, awesome.
check it out if you haven't.
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: WorldForgot on May 23, 2021, 08:07:17 PM
Gracias mil!!!!

y oye wey no se si notaste, pero tu foto profil 'ta broken ~
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: jenkins on May 23, 2021, 08:42:12 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on May 23, 2021, 06:53:11 PM
I forgot... but we also did Road to Roma, the Roma making of which you can stream on netflix as well.
I was lucky enough to be on that set for one day, which was... well, awesome.
check it out if you haven't.

that's cool!

Quote from: Alexandro on May 23, 2021, 06:53:11 PM
All right guys, I'll send the link.

it's so well-made, you know. like if I was a guy sitting around thinking making docs was easy and you barely had to do anything and I saw this I'd feel shook. then just the whole thing is nicely packaged

(https://i.imgur.com/JcF4G5c.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/R51BRbx.png)

this is a western-wide shift in perspective and it represents at least two things 1 the internet has happened, of course, but less often mentioned 2 global culture existed before the internet. although the doc helps me learn who these people in the photo are the general nature of the room is known to me beforehand. because the idea of what literature means and what an intellectual means and the entire hierarchy of cultural possibility is as known to me as it was to them and everyone back when. the doc mentions the greeks because they're the cradle of western civilization. and the internet is its own cradle

(https://i.imgur.com/jHQhFDX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MKMDSFe.png)

not that public intellectuals don't still exist, but the role of public intellectuals has shifted within western culture. although two specific events in Mexican history are discussed as harbingers of this change, it seems to have happened everywhere, the same conclusion by different means

and thus I liked what the doc was talking about. seems like a pretty big deal to make this, based on your ex-pres participant who dishes the goods regarding himself, Clinton, Castro and Marquez. congrats on the win. great ending, too. first of all this guy represents like the finest parts of being human

(https://i.imgur.com/fWjuqf1.png)

then a fine exit line

(https://i.imgur.com/NKBHfF9.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0KLw8Nt.png)
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: WorldForgot on May 24, 2021, 02:05:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ftPuRQz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KP93du9.jpg)

Y ahora con AMLO, la gente hasta lo extraña ...  :doh:

'El capitalismo de cuates, de compadres ~ '
Title: Re: Psychotropic Sunrise
Post by: Alexandro on June 13, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
Guys, I've been really busy. But thanks for your kind words.
Hope you find time to check all the other stuff, particularly I'm no longer here.
best!