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Film Discussion => In Front of the Camera => Topic started by: NEON MERCURY on June 25, 2003, 11:43:24 PM

Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 25, 2003, 11:43:24 PM
that can play ANY role and pull it off would be Billy Crudup.








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Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 26, 2003, 09:00:06 AM
Crudup is good, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't hold a candle to Oldman.  No fucking way.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: MacGuffin on June 30, 2003, 09:41:40 AM
Compleat Female Stage Beauty: Artisan revealed that principal photography begins today on this British comedy from Director Richard Eyre ("Iris", "The Crucible") and which features the likes of Billy Crudup, Claire Danes, Rupert Everett, Tom Wilkinson, Ben Chaplin, Tom Hollander, Richard Griffiths and Edward Fox. Set in the 1660's at a time when in live theatre women's roles were played by men, Edward 'Ned' Kynaston (Crudup) is England's most celebrated leading lady, using his beauty and skill to make the great female roles his own. But when Charles II is tired of seeing the same old performers, the ruler allows real women to tread the boards and men may no longer play women's parts. Ned becomes a virtual nobody, virtually overnight and seems headed for suicide till his ex-dresser turned actress Maria (Danes) takes it upon herself to make a man of him again. Shooting takes place at the Royal Naval College at Greenwich, whilst two theatres will be built at Shepperton Studios where filming continues through till August 22nd.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: ProgWRX on June 30, 2003, 12:28:05 PM
I havent seen Crudup in enough roles to gauge how much he can re-invent himself...  :?  Specially vs. someone like Gary Oldman!
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 01, 2003, 07:07:57 AM
Well said.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 01, 2003, 09:56:54 AM
What about PSH?
Title: a lot
Post by: Alexandro on July 01, 2003, 11:32:28 AM
There are a bunch of actors with this easiness to transform...

Ben Kingsley
De Niro back in the day
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Edward Norton
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 01, 2003, 07:17:41 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman definitely
Johnny Depp
Kevin Spacey

to name just a few.
Title: Re: a lot
Post by: bonanzataz on July 01, 2003, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: AlexandroThere are a bunch of actors with this easiness to transform...

Ben Kingsley
De Niro back in the day
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Edward Norton

i think de niro can still do it today, he just doesn't choose good roles to exercise this. just take a look at what he did with meet the parents. that was great.

i disagree with ed norton. i think he does the same thing every time only he (unlike de niro) chooses completely different roles. he always plays it the same way even if the characters are different. i don't really care too much for people referring to him as "the great" ed norton. i don't see anything THAT great about him. he's never done anything that really made me go "wow!" he's not bad, just not the best actor ever like some people say.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: rustinglass on July 02, 2003, 06:34:53 AM
steve buscemi
daniel day lewis
adrien brody (I've oly seen him in the pianist and summer of sam, but that is a big enough transformation for me)
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: jokerspath on July 02, 2003, 08:03:34 AM
Quote from: rustinglassadrien brody (I've oly seen him in the pianist and summer of sam, but that is a big enough transformation for me)

You weren't lucky enough to see him whimper for the camera once or twice for about twenty seconds in Mallick's three hour "Thin Red Line"?

aw
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: Pubrick on July 02, 2003, 09:56:20 AM
benicio del toro.
Title: Re: a lot
Post by: Alexandro on July 02, 2003, 10:30:29 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: AlexandroThere are a bunch of actors with this easiness to transform...

Ben Kingsley
De Niro back in the day
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Edward Norton

i think de niro can still do it today, he just doesn't choose good roles to exercise this. just take a look at what he did with meet the parents. that was great.

i disagree with ed norton. i think he does the same thing every time only he (unlike de niro) chooses completely different roles. he always plays it the same way even if the characters are different. i don't really care too much for people referring to him as "the great" ed norton. i don't see anything THAT great about him. he's never done anything that really made me go "wow!" he's not bad, just not the best actor ever like some people say.

De Niro is my favorite actor and I don't think, as a lot of people do, that he has gave a single bad performance in the last years...I liked him a lot in Wag The Dog, Jackie Brown, Flawless, Analyze This and Meet the Parents...and I feel his performance in City by the Sea was kind of underrated...but back in the day he was definetely pushing his own envelope, you know: Mean Streets, Godfather 2, Taxi Driver, Bang the drum slowly, raging bull, brazil, once upon a time in america, awakenings...

Ed Norton is great. I haven't seen 25th hour but the chamaleonic aptitudes he showed on Primal Fear, The People vs. Larry Flynt, American History X and Fight Club was awesome...

I forgot to mention one of the kins, of course, MR. DANIEL DAY LEWIS, will you look at this roles...My left foot, th unbereable lightness  of being, in the name of the father, age of innocence, the boxer, gangs...

And Anthony Hopkins,m when he wants to, can be simply the best actor in the world, just compare Shadowlands, The Remains of the Day, Silence of the Lambs, nixon and Titus...
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 02, 2003, 10:36:06 AM
Anthony Hopkins kicks ass! I haven't seen him in Titus yet though.  It's interesting how you described Norton's chameleonic ability (sp?)...IMO I don't think he has much range.  I liked hiim in American History X, and when compared to his role in Fight Club, I suppose he does possess some versatility....

sorry, just thinking "aloud".... :-D
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: rustinglass on July 02, 2003, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: jokerspath
Quote from: rustinglassadrien brody (I've oly seen him in the pianist and summer of sam, but that is a big enough transformation for me)

You weren't lucky enough to see him whimper for the camera once or twice for about twenty seconds in Mallick's three hour "Thin Red Line"?

aw
Oh yeah, I forgot that one, that's a very cool film.
Does he have a line in that, I can't remember...

I hear Harrison's flowers is awesome, didn't have time to see it though.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: jokerspath on July 02, 2003, 01:30:47 PM
Quote from: rustinglass
Quote from: jokerspath
Quote from: rustinglassadrien brody (I've oly seen him in the pianist and summer of sam, but that is a big enough transformation for me)

You weren't lucky enough to see him whimper for the camera once or twice for about twenty seconds in Mallick's three hour "Thin Red Line"?

aw
Oh yeah, I forgot that one, that's a very cool film.
Does he have a line in that, I can't remember...

Off hand I cannot remember (though I'm sure someone will be nice enough to fill us in).  I do know that he had a handful more before Mallick's six hour cut became three hours (I'd kill someone to get a copy of that work print).  I remember reading something (that was probably exagerrating a bit) that related that before the big cuts Brody was convinced he had one of the lead parts in the film.  

I read the book and his was a really neat character (w/ shades of homosexuality, infurtiating cowardice and, soon after, what some refer to as "the little man complex").  

Good actor, great film...

aw
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: rustinglass on July 02, 2003, 02:20:31 PM
That's amazing!
Richie the weirdo, a gay soldier and Wladislav Szpílman. Now that's reinvention.

Email or pm me if you ever get a copy of that, jokerspath.
Title: The only other actor next to Gary Oldman...
Post by: jokerspath on July 02, 2003, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: rustinglassThat's amazing!
Richie the weirdo, a gay soldier and Wladislav Szpílman. Now that's reinvention.

Email or pm me if you ever get a copy of that, jokerspath.

Its like my fucking dream, but I've never seen evidence of it floating around in bootleg form or whatever...

aw