The Girl Next Door

[El Duderino]

mac, you are the man....!!!
there really needs to be a search engine on the web w/ your name....

MacGoogle.

     

[ono]

mac, you are the man....!!!
there really needs to be a search engine on the web w/ your name....

MacGoogle.

Already set up with a mascot, too.

[Ravi]

I like the deepness of this thread.

[SoNowThen]

SoNowThen and Cecil and the like can still make all the films they like with the lewd interpretation of the Godard quote in mind blah blah blah

Sorry, gotta beat a dead horse. Here are some quotes from the Godard book in relation to his quote, and the relationship between directors and actresses:

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that the history of cinema is the history of a plot by shy unprepossessing and sex-obsessed men to surround themselves with heartrendingly beautiful women.... the belief that cinema would provide the beautiful girls so sadly lacking in real life".

It had sweet fuck all to do with women directors. And I think he was aiming at something a little more than pointing out a man's point of view. Like it or not, comfortable or not, he was not making a noble or bleeding heart statement. The lengths he went to in first seeing Anna Karina as a model in an advert, thinking she was hot, sending out for her, offering her a role as long as she took off her clothes, getting turned down, trying again for the next film, holding long close ups so he could look at her longer, stealing her away from her boyfriend, and finally bedding her and then marrying her straightaway go a long way into leading me to believe that he was all about this statement as a means of GETTING A DREAM GIRL. And he happened to be a genius who changed the face of cinema forever. Crazy, you can be both at once. A skirt chaser with no shame, and an artist full of integrity, that is.

Also, GT's last post was a perfect summing up.

[ono]

It had sweet fuck all to do with women directors.

I never said it did.  But Godard is full of shit if he thinks that's why most men want to be directors.  Let him speak for himself, not for me.

And Cuthbert's hotness isn't the POINT of the film.  It's a sidenote.  The film lacks a point from what I've read (other than that teenage males are clumsy, horny, awkwards idiots, and young girls make mistakes, too), and really descends into this sort of negative Risky-Business-wannabe territory better left alone.  But again, this is only conjecture, and though Ebert and the like are reliable here, I can only know for sure when I actually see the film.

[SoNowThen]

It had sweet fuck all to do with women directors.

I never said it did.  But Godard is full of shit if he thinks that's why most men want to be directors.  Let him speak for himself, not for me.

And Cuthbert's hotness isn't the POINT of the film.  It's a sidenote.  The film lacks a point from what I've read (other than that teenage males are clumsy, horny, awkwards idiots, and young girls make mistakes, too), and really descends into this sort of negative Risky-Business-wannabe territory better left alone.  But again, this is only conjecture, and though Ebert and the like are reliable here, I can only know for sure when I actually see the film.

And when you do see it, you'll realize that it IS the point of the film.

Secondly, a page back you said "What he meant when he said", so actually you were putting words in Godard's mouth, not the other way around. That's why I took exception to what you posted.

[ono]

Secondly, a page back you said "What he meant when he said", so actually you were putting words in Godard's mouth, not the other way around. That's why I took exception to what you posted.

Ah, but so were you.  That's what interpretations are about.

The hotness of one girl simply can't be the point of a film.  One picture says it all.  Like that picture in Maxim.  The film, if anything, uses that, as it would with any girl in that position.  This argument is rather silly, though.  We're not going to change each other's minds.

[tpfkabi]

where do all of the Godard quotes come from? i would like more.

i think it's true about a lot of films about shy guys trying to get the unattainable girl or somewhere along those lines.......Vertigo.......even Punch-Drunk Love basically has a loner guy who gives no reason for a beautiful woman to literally stalk him and love him. in these cases and Godard, for the most part, the object of affection is generally dressed and/or presented with a more respectable appearance than The Girl Next Door i suppose.....i don't know.........did Kubrick really have any of these types of films though?

[ono]

did Kubrick really have any of these types of films though?

Lolita, obviously.  And one could argue Eyes Wide Shut, with Bill going after the hooker and other sexual conquests in a fit of jealousy.  But it's not really the same sunny thing.

[Pubrick]

godard can eat my nut.

this was prolly not the best thread to bring it up, but the problem as i see it with the hotness is that a lot of ppl seriously believe that is enuff to fill up a whole reivew. ppl already write shit reviews as it is, without the addition of horny-teenager drooling, and what's worse is that it never ends.. he just did it in the Terminal thread where u can't even see zeta-jones' face.

i've done it myself but i try to counter it by writing actual reviews that discuss a film without resorting to listing categories of good and bad.. refer to my review of The War Zone. banky is right tho, it's nothing offensive, mac was only voicing his opinion as i am now, to hopefully discourage immaturity.. and at least to encourage better reviews.

[Ravi]

The hotness of one girl simply can't be the point of a film.  

I disagree.  There can be a film about a girl who everyone thinks is beautiful, and the men become idiots because of it, and the women become annoyed and jealous.

[ono]

Okay, let me rephrase.  The hotness of one girl simply can't be the point of a GOOD film.  Hence why There's Something About Mary was so awful and this may be, too.

[modage]

there's something about mary was hilarious.  i think that was the point of that film.  (cameron diaz wasnt really that hot in that film, so it could've hardly been the point.)

[Stefen]

Just watched this, yeah, Cuthbert is hot, real hot, with that out of the way I enjoyed this movie alot more than I thought I would. It made me laugh out loud a few times so thats always a plus. Danielle and Mathews romance seemed to bud too quickly, it's obvious he is lusting after her and she makes him strip in the middle of the street to get a look at what shes going to be working with just cause he sneaked a peek (shit, she had her blinds wide open) and that was harsh. Cuthberts character kind of reaked of the "look at me, im an attention whore and am living on the edge" cliche when she coaxes Mathew to go jump in that swimming pool, and keeps asking him whats the craziest thing hes done in every chapter of the dvd since she knows shes showing him a good time, it's almost as if she needed to figuratively have her ego stroked, but would sit on her hands when he needed the same thing, only literally. I was hoping that the cool kids would get it bad, but it never happened. That was my main beef with the flick is the cool kids were assholes and never got any bad trouble, so I definetely wanted some closure in that department. The sappy romance parts were pretty good and didn't make me cringe like they normally do in movies like this, so that was good. It was a soft R as oppose to a hard R, they could have gotten away with alot more, they were on the right track but it seems like the filmmakers restrained themselves too often and were trying to draw a line between the porno industry crowd and the awkward phase teen crowd. It never gave any reason why she went into the porno business so she could have some serious mental issues or was most likely a victim of sexual abuse and will have some deep dark secrets come out sometime. She never seemed to have any money either cause Mathew was always paying for crap whenever they went out (I think I even caught Mathew reluctanly tipping the limo driver when he picked them up for the prom) which is a punk move on her part cause shes a career oriented woman and hes a high school kid, that could definetely cause problems down the line. I don't see the two lasting in real life, only in movie life, cause Mathew is going to Georgetown and would eventually want a prenup and who knows what Danielle is doing, shes the same age as Mathew but she probably started making skin flicks underage so sooner or later shes going to feel she missed out on so much and probably want to pull a Jerri Blank and go back to high school, who knows, maybe for the sequel.