Watched the superbowl (came on here at 11:00 at night) but the commercials here are totally different. what were the hulk ads like?
Eric Bana on Hulk, Troy & John Lennon Biopic
The following is an article in Australia's Melbourne Star, who talked to Eric Bana about his upcoming projects...
He had this to say about the Hulk:
"I originally went in and saw the Marvel guys about doing another superhero movie called Ghost Rider, a Spawn type character, and they were convinced I could do something they just didn't know what. Anyhow, I wasn't right for Ghost Rider so I actually audtioned for Daredevil for the role Colin Farrell ended up playing and then X-Men 2, wich was great because I did an audition with Hugh Jackman, and taught him a thing or two about acting (laughs), and then Hulk. And Ang Lee was sold on me and The Hulk seemed like the right movie for me, because it would be my first lead role in Hollywood and because the characters are so interesting."
He had this to say about Troy:
"When I was a kid Spartacus was my favorite movie, and in Troy I play a very Kirk Douglas like character, so it's great. To go from Bill Bixby to Kirk Douglas overnight is just mind blowing for me. To think 10 years ago I was up and down the country playing crummy little gigs to pay the rent, and now I truly am the king of kings (laughs). Wolfgang Petersen has really given me the leverage to control this character in a much greater way than i would have expected and to do that alongside the likes of Brad Pitt and Peter O Toole, you know, it says how much faith he has in me as an Actor, so I must be doing something right"
The interviews were topped up with the usual info on the movies and Bana went on to reveal what could be his next movie project:
"I have spoken to a few directors in America about doing a John Lennon biopic. I have spoken to Oliver Stone and Ang Lee about it, and I am working on a script with a British writer. Really, its up to the estate of John Lennon to decide whether it will get made or not, and then one of the Hollywood studios to fund it, so I will have to brush up on a convincing Liverpool accent. The movie will centre on the last 10 years of Lennons life, partly because I think it would be unwise for me to grow a mop top at my age, and because those years are generally unknown to the masses and very interesting. I hope it goes ahead because this is a dream project. This will be my Raging Bull."
New International Trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/the_hulk/international/
This trailer is great. I really think Ang Lee is going to knock this out of the ballpark. The Hulk himself looks really good...fake sometimes, sure, but I think part of the problem is just adjusting yourself to seeing a nine foot tall green giant in a realistic setting. That shot where he ROARS while standing next to that tank or whatever is just amazing...the level of physical gravity his body has, and the detail level, it's pretty great. A lot of the close-ups are incredible too.
I have zero hope that this movie will be anything memorable, even in the realm of big summer action movies. I think the most anticipated for me will be the Matrix sequel for this summer, but I'm not sure how good it will be. I'm still seeing this movie alone on the name of the director attached to see how he does. I just can't see much room available to really do anything with this genre, and especially this character. Who knows, maybe he can because the best entertainment super hero movies are the first two Superman movies, which are great smart classy movies and also feature the most unimaginative super hero ever.
~rougerum
i also think this movie looks pretty awful -- out of anyone, why the fuck would you hire ang lee for THE HULK ( no direspect to mr. lee -- hes a great director, i just dont feel hes right for this project) i remember when reading the comic book when i was younger: the hulk was essentially an overgrown baby that would have temper tantrums -- drawing from interviews with mr. lee; it soulds likehe has disregarded the comic book and made him into this graceful giant -- that seems boring. i think the cgi looks awful as well -- it will pretty much be, mighty joe young, with a green giant.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI have zero hope that this movie will be anything memorable, even in the realm of big summer action movies.
Quote from: cowboycurtisi also think this movie looks pretty awful --
I bet you guys are a ton of fun.
I have no doubts this is going to be very well done and entertaining. Ang Lee is one of my favorites and the cast is top-notch. Lighten up, guys.
I like how when I say bad about something, I sometimes get remarks how I must be boring or something to even think bad thoughts. Hmmm...do all the fun guys accept everything as cool? Louise Brooks for life!
~rougerum
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI like how when I say bad about something, I sometimes get remarks how I must be boring or something to even think bad thoughts. Hmmm...do all the fun guys accept everything as cool? Louise Brooks for life!
~rougerum
Stop whining.
and then when you isolate and identify those poor arguments, you get the bad comebacks like, "Stop whining!" or "Stop! Or my Mom will shoot!"
~rougerum
easen up people...
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet"Stop! Or my Mom will shoot!"
~rougerum
god, i love that fucking movie.
I think the key here is that this isn't a superhero movie. It's more like a Frankenstein story. There's no villain (well, there is, kind of, but I won't spoil it for people who haven't heard yet). It's all about internal conflict. That's why I think Ang Lee is going to do a great job with this.
Some of the effects look great, others don't. I'm not complaining. If the story works, my disbelief will be suspended.
I was pretty dissapointed with 'HULK' after seeing the other trailers/previews etc but the new International trailer is very cool e.g. Hulk getting angry, getting chased/blown away by explosions, Hulk getting angry, taking out tanks/helicopters/buildings, Hulk getting angry etc.
Oh yeah, and the Hulk gets f***in' angry too.....
Ghostboy,
That's an interesting idea onto what it can be. I would like to hope so, but my suspicions suggest it will will run the gamut of other summer action movies and the trailers suggest if it is what you suggest, it will approach that idea half ass like other big big movies do and rely way too much on examples of Hulk going SMASH SMASH. That's my fear, but hopefully it can be a Minority Report where it gets out of that repitition of action scenes and brings the action into the flow and imagination of movie creations when brought to its highest examples. Still, my doubts drown out the hopes.
~rougerum
Lastest trailer, shows more scenes. Click here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/the_hulk/trailer_5/)
Lou Ferrigno must spinning over in his grave.
Quote from: dufresneLou Ferrigno must spinning over in his grave.
Actually, he has a small cameo role as the Head of Security in the film.
While I like that international trailer a whole lot, the new one that is attached to X-Men is more iffy. Once again, they try to play up the hero element. And maybe they're just outta context, but some of the fx do look pretty bad. Oh well. I still have faith.
Quote from: GhostboyWhile I like that international trailer a whole lot, the new one that is attached to X-Men is more iffy. Once again, they try to play up the hero element. And maybe they're just outta context, but some of the fx do look pretty bad. Oh well. I still have faith.
The only hero element they added was the narrator's line of, "...and release the hero within" crap in the trailer.
I can't really see the FX looking that bad, especially comparing the super-hero movies of recent (X-Men 1 & 2, Daredevil, Spiderman). Those movies look no better than "The Hulk."
Have no doubts guys that this movie is going to be good. I have a lot of faith in Lee and Schamus, and their track record should be proof. This movie actually looks like it has a decent story. Ang Lee keeps on naming the film a Greek Tragedy rather than a super-hero movie.
My fave bit of the new trailer is the *Hulk hits the ground, causes a wave of cars to spill* etc. With the trailers, the Hulk FX go from looking great to bad to great to bad, sometimes it looks superb, sometimes it looks like an action figure.......
boooo cgi. could it be possible that these are "rougher" versions of the cgi graphics, and will look better in the final film?
I wish that they would have held back the Hulk till CGI is more advanced. I think Hulk is a fantastic character and had a lot of potential, but not if he looks like a fucking Playstation game. Maybe it will improve with the almost sure sequels
They could have used cel animation a la "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and it would have created a more convincing look than that laughably ridiculous CGI. I don't doubt it'll be a decent movie, and I'll see it, if for nothing else, Jennifer Connelly, but I just can't get past how hilarious those effects look. Slimer in "Ghostbusters" was a better effect than that!
Im not seeing the "laughably ridiculous" CGI everyone else is. How more realistic are you expecting the Hulk to look? It has a very stylistic quality to it that seems very apparent to me.
And the trailer is very misleading. Executives are actually worried about it being too "arty" for people. Which makes me happy. :-D
After seeing how great CGI can be with characters like Gollum, watching the hulk trailer is like watching THe Rock at the end of the mummy two. BAD BAD BAD. Guys while you have faith in the director and cast and story and blah blah blah, Just admit that most of the shots of the hulk look like ass. They would have been better off creating the whole enviroment in CGI and had a final fantasy type Hulk movie.
why didn't they just use make-up, like in the series?
Quote from: BankyEdwardsAfter seeing how great CGI can be with characters like Gollum, watching the hulk trailer is like watching THe Rock at the end of the mummy two. BAD BAD BAD. Guys while you have faith in the director and cast and story and blah blah blah, Just admit that most of the shots of the hulk look like ass. They would have been better off creating the whole enviroment in CGI and had a final fantasy type Hulk movie.
There were hardly any closeups of Hulk, and it was the closeup shots of Gollum that redeemed his CGI-ness. All you've seen are long shots of him running and jumping.
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There were hardly any closeups of Hulk, and it was the closeup shots of Gollum that redeemed his CGI-ness. All you've seen are long shots of him running and jumping.
Yeah, that's where my hope now lies. This looks pretty nice:
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And all the talk about it being too artsy is what really gets me excited. Again, I'm hoping the CGI will all work in context.
I think CGI is better than a live actor, especially since people expect it now. I just think that hulk is such a difficult character to make real and that they should have waited till CGI is more advanced. I saw previews for it today, and Im going to go see it, let loose and just say fuck it if it doesnt look real.
Quote from: Duck SauceI think CGI is better than a live actor, especially since people expect it now. I just think that hulk is such a difficult character to make real and that they should have waited till CGI is more advanced. I saw previews for it today, and Im going to go see it, let loose and just say fuck it if it doesnt look real.
that'a boy!
The problem isn't it not looking real but whether it can look believable and be effective in how it looks and acts. CGI has been creator to some very unbelievable and boring creatures lately. I'm not sure if it will pull it off, but I'm seeing it anyways.
~rougerum
i've said this before -- i think ang lee is a horrible choice for a comic book film -- i thik he's a great director, but just unqualitifed for this story -- i want to see a director that is a fan of the comic book -- judging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case) -- but then again, films recently have been shamelessly raping the original source material -- they see it as a material that has already been part of pop culture for years now -- its almost like free marketing -- as long as they have a big green giant bashing cars and yelling -- 13 yr olds kids will cheer and force thier parents to by them the action figures and take them to the film 5 times a week...
Quote from: cowboykurtisjudging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case)
Again, I strongly believe, with reason, that the trailers are grossly misleading.
Quote from: GhostboyQuote from: cowboykurtisjudging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case)
Again, I strongly believe, with reason, that the trailers are grossly misleading.
how can it be misleading in the film's tone? -- you can see how it was shot -- the atmosphere and "world" of the film looks horrible. i think you can tell a lot by a trailer. i've rarely seen a film that had a shitty trailer and turned out to be an amazing film.
The trailers showcase the movie's two big action scenes...the military pursuit through the desert and the rampage in San Francisco. The main story arc hasn't been hinted at one bit...well, if you know what to look for, you may see some of it in this most recent trailer.
And those brief shots of The Hulk in the woods are beautiful.
I mean, sure, it may just not work. But I think there's enough ground to keep hoping, until we actually see it.
Quote from: GhostboyI mean, sure, it may just not work. But I think there's enough ground to keep hoping
hope is an intersting phenomenon -- when "hoping" for something, one has to choose: do they continue to hope with the possiblilty of being disapointed or do they keep low expectations and never forms ideals as a way to make disapointment non-existent... i think it depends what you're investing your hope in... i'm not investing mine in the hulk.
Quote from: cowboykurtisi'm not investing mine in the hulk.
i am.
mang lee, eric banana, jennifer hotttt, nick :nutty: nolte.
i am.
Dont put to much negativity towards it yet but i agree it looks pretty empty
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Interview with Ang Lee from The San Francisco Gate:
Ang Lee's transformation
Director happily jumped into the foreign world of special effects for 'The Hulk'
Whether Ang Lee was directing adulterous suburbanites, Southern racists, crouching tigers or hidden dragons, his diverse characters all had something in common: They were living, breathing, multimillion-dollar-check- cashing actors.
But "The Hulk," opening June 20, is a different beast. The veteran filmmaker is making the leap from flesh-and-blood dramas to special-effects blockbuster -- without so much as a fake explosion for a transition.
Lee admits that, when it came to special effects, he had "no idea what I was talking about" as early as last year, when he started filming in the Bay Area.
"In some ways my innocence helped bring freshness (to the movie)," Lee said during an an interview earlier this month. "I think it's good I wasn't scared that the movie relied on (computer-generated) characters. I didn't know enough to be scared."
Lee's decision to direct "The Hulk" surprised fans of comic books -- along with fans of his movies.
His previous films include "Sense and Sensibility," "The Ice Storm" and "Eat Drink Man Woman," which were as far away from gamma rays and rampaging green behemoths as cinematically possible. "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" in 2000 proved that Lee could film action, but the movie's wire stunts and blue- screen backgrounds involved few modern special effects.
But Lee says his latest job made sense to him, with "Crouching Tiger" serving as a transition to "The Hulk." The filmmaker was drawn to the project at first by his comic-reading school-age sons, later realizing that there was a surprisingly complex character in the middle of the pulp action.
"That grabbed me right away," Lee said. "I was on the way to doing something like that in 'Crouching Tiger,' to mix serious drama with pop art. I got a taste of that and thought I could do that bigger."
Once the director was onboard, "The Hulk" needed a location. In the comics and TV show, the monster is born on a desert base in the Southwest, where Bruce Banner (Eric Bana in the movie) is exposed to gamma radiation.
New Mexico was changed to UC Berkeley to get Hulk near a big city, a move that Lee was happy about.
San Francisco "is one of my favorite cities in the world," Lee said. "I would probably rank it at the top or near the top. It's small but very photogenic and has layers. It's like New York. You never have problems finding great angles that people have never done."
Locations for "The Hulk" include Berkeley, Treasure Island and Telegraph Hill in San Francisco. Filming for the most part was kept secret, but an extended trailer displayed for some journalists and exhibitors shows that the Bay Area is used to the fullest.
Lee seems particularly fond of helicopter shots looking down on the city streets, where the Hulk wrecks at least one cable car.
Although Lee put his own mark on the film, most of the main plot points in "The Hulk" mirror the comic. Bana plays Banner, a student who gets a dose of gamma radiation while working on a secret military project. As a result, whenever he gets mad, he mutates into a huge green creature. ("You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.'')
Jennifer Connelly, Sam Elliott and Nick Nolte round out the cast, while television Hulk actor Lou Ferrigno has a cameo.
Unlike the comic and the TV show, the lead character in "The Hulk" is more than twice the height of a normal human. The computer-generated Hulk wasn't created until the filming sequences were over -- when Lee settled into an office across the street from Industrial Light & Magic in San Rafael.
Lee describes his education at ILM with wonder, like a parent who goes to a rock concert and discovers that his kid's favorite band actually has good musicians.
"This is the best part of making the movie, I think -- making the movie at ILM. It was pretty much a contrast to what I expected it to be," Lee said. "They call it Industrial Light & Magic, but there's no feeling of industry. It feels totally handcraft. Every individual artist who works on the shots -- it's very hands on."
Colin Brady, an animation director at ILM, said the animators who worked on "The Hulk" were thrilled with Lee's constant presence for the effects work.
"It's pretty much unheard of," Brady said. "(But) the Hulk has such a strong acting role in the movie that I think it did require that Ang was here."
Brady said much of the finished product for the character came from Lee's own movements.
"There's a lot of Ang in the Hulk," Brady said. "Ang would have no problem getting up and acting out exactly what he was looking for. It's a wonderful contrast to see this very soft-spoken guy launch into this very broad action. Next thing you know, he's biting my arm or getting me in a headlock or something."
Holing up with ILM made it easier for Lee to ignore outspoken fans of the comic book, who have criticized everything from the creature's look (they say he appears too much like the lead character in "Shrek") to the inclusion of mutated "Hulk dogs" in the movie.
Lee said he was influenced by the first "Frankenstein" movie more than any comic films such as "X-Men" or "Spider-Man."
"I would like to think that the fans, as loud and earnest as they can be, I hope they make up, like, 0.1 percent of the audience," Lee said. "I wanted to embrace (the comic), but I also wanted to feel free to create my episode of the Hulk. If I got opinions from other places, I would be very distracted."
Lee said Marvel gave him only two mandates -- telling him that the Hulk couldn't be too intelligent and that he had to save a child at the beginning of the movie.
Avi Arad, the Marvel Comics executive in charge of the films, said fans will appreciate Lee's work after they see the film.
"He understood the psychodrama and the deep study it takes to get the Hulk, " Arad said. "The thing he loves the most is the study of the soul. And he delivered that."
Lee joins Brian Singer and Sam Raimi as Oscar-nominated filmmakers who took on blockbuster comic-book films. Arad said the material needed a director who could concentrate on the performances, and Universal Pictures and Marvel were fortunate to get Lee.
"He could have done anything he wanted," Arad said. "And lucky us, he picked 'The Hulk.' "
Lee, who was finishing up special-effects shots and adding the music in early May, said he hasn't thought about his next move.
"Honestly, I really don't know what I'll do next," he said. "I'm having a blast here at ILM."
Lee said he may do a destruction-free drama first, but he hasn't ruled out another special-effects movie.
"The experience is definitely much better than I expected. It's artwork, not what I thought special effects are," Lee said. "I came from a dramatic background, and this is very good training for me. It really broadened my tools for making movies. I think it was a great experience for me as a filmmaker."
i never was a hulk fan, and never will be.
i dont hate this movie because i never liked it as a child, but just because it looks so fake!!
when the hulk was in the room yelling or whatever with water all around him....F-A-K-E
o yea, an doesnt his "green-ness" change a bit in every scene??
sometimes he looks dull green, then NEON GREEN???
Quote from: nappyrato yea, an doesnt his "green-ness" change a bit in every scene??
sometimes he looks dull green, then NEON GREEN???
The DP had some lighting issues
Im going to see it, whos coming with?
Eh, I'm starting to want to see it now
Yeah this "Greek tragedy" thing has got me quite interested.
I'll be seeing it by Thursday at the latest, but I'll be going again this weekend with friends. I'm hyped.
I think this movie will be so kick-ass, it will transcend the 'comic book' genre.
Ill probably see it this Wed if things work out. Can't wait!
Somehow I'll have to choose between this and "From Justin To Kelly". How... to... decide......
Ah, fuck it. I'll see "The Hulk". With all the bitching I've been doing about it, it'll probably end up being my favorite movie of the year. And, if nothing else, two hours of new footage of Jennifer Connelly is worth my eight bucks.
The new ads they've been playing on TV have been pretty awesome, what with their understated, 'visionary director' approach. Lots of shots of The Hulk standing still, emoting, etc. Very dramatic. Very effective, cause now I want to see it MORE.
Quote from: GhostboyThe new ads they've been playing on TV have been pretty awesome, what with their understated, 'visionary director' approach. Lots of shots of The Hulk standing still, emoting, etc. Very dramatic. Very effective, cause now I want to see it MORE.
The clips I saw on Ebert & Roeper showed the split/multi screens Ang used to make the film resemble comic book panels. That looked awesome.
Ghostboy wrote: Lots of shots of The Hulk standing still, emoting, etc. Very dramatic. Very effective, cause now I want to see it MORE.
Yeah, that's what interests me more, a popcorn flick with DEPTH, they are incredibly rare (apart from the 'LOTR' movies). Even if the Hulk does look kinda goofy when emotional (from the pics I've seen).
This has been my most anticipated movie this year. I'm extremely psyched about it. 3 more days for me.
Off topic: Has anyone else rode "The Hulk" ride at Islands of Adventure in Orlando, FL? I know most of you are on the west coast, but you've got to come ride it.
when's it coming out?
friday. sphinx is divided about this movie and will probably sit at home not watching it because he's already convinced himself of what the movie will be like
there's already some super-duper views out from hollywood reporter and over at aintitcrapnews. im pumped.
i'm so excited i might have to change my av soon.
i think it will be pretty good...the cgi hulk is CHEESY though(imo)
Quote from: NEON MERCURYi think it will be pretty good...the cgi hulk is CHEESY though(imo)
So does the CGI in general look cheesey or just the way he looks in CGI looks cheesey? Im not a fan of CGI, but I am pretty impressed, better than a bodybuilder, but they still shoulda waited a bit longer
just got my tix for thursday at midnite, i am pumped.
Quote from: Duck SauceQuote from: NEON MERCURYi think it will be pretty good...the cgi hulk is CHEESY though(imo)
So does the CGI in general look cheesey or just the way he looks in CGI looks cheesey? Im not a fan of CGI, but I am pretty impressed, better than a bodybuilder, but they still shoulda waited a bit longer
The idea of making the hulk character "fake" is cheesy to me. Why not just make the whole film animated?! It looks really bad also that he is the size of godzilla :roll:-. imo it would have been better to make it w/o a cgi hulk. i am a fan of lee(i.e. The Ice Storm) so...i think he can pull this off effectively(pretty good film) also you are right they should have waited.
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: Duck SauceQuote from: NEON MERCURYi think it will be pretty good...the cgi hulk is CHEESY though(imo)
So does the CGI in general look cheesey or just the way he looks in CGI looks cheesey? Im not a fan of CGI, but I am pretty impressed, better than a bodybuilder, but they still shoulda waited a bit longer
The idea of making the hulk character "fake" is cheesy to me. Why not just make the whole film animated?! It looks really bad also that he is the size of godzilla :roll:-. imo it would have been better to make it w/o a cgi hulk. i am a fan of lee(i.e. The Ice Storm) so...i think he can pull this off effectively(pretty good film) also you are right they should have waited.
No way. Don't judge what you see on tv. The big screen tends to be very forgiving to cgi. BTW, I think the Hulk looks fantastic.
I just wanted to bring this thread back into the mix.
Anybody have anything they'd like to say about it?
Anybody?
I heard there was an anal sex scene between CG Hulk and Nick Nolte.
Quote from: BankyEdwardsI heard there was an anal sex scene between CG Hulk and Nick Nolte.
that would explain nolte being on roofies when he was busted in malbu
Quote from: BankyEdwardsI heard there was an anal sex scene between CG Hulk and Nick Nolte.
u wish. if ur avatar wasn't so hot i'd cut u.
I just got back from seeing it! It was good but not great, but I'd still very highly recommend it, because the style Ang Lee uses here is pretty awesome. First of all, the script isn't anything deep or grand...it's a comic book movie. There's a little bit of that Greek Tragedy element, but not much (and it ends up being the lamest part of the movie, honestly). Blade 2 did the whole Greek Tragedy thing a million times better than this. The actors all do good work, but only because they don't second guess the material.
Now, what makes the movie is the style. Because of the way Lee's approached the story, the shallowness of the script actually works. If you've read any of the original Hulk comics...that's what this is. It's a 1960s horror/sci-fi comic come to life, literally (and I wish they'd have gone all the way and set it in the sixties, too). The best part of the movie is the way it's edited...you really have no idea how well the 'panelling' editing style works. It's fantastic, and it immediately gets you in the right mood (it also helps the hour or so of exposition at the beginning of the movie whip by). Furthermore, the special effects are great. They really don't look any different than what you've already seen on your TV screen, but in the context of the movie, its clear that Lee made a definite stylistic choice in his representation of this character, and it works incredibly well. The close-ups of the Hulk's face are all very good, and surprisingly, he looks the most realistic in the desert scenes. That desert chase...man, it's a blast. The sound design in that sequence is terrific.
There's a point where it seems certain that the movie will end, complete with a perfect 'To Be Continued' moment. Unfortunately, it does continue, and from that point on the movie is just dumb and awkward. But aside from that, I'd say you'll get your money's worth.
Quote from: GhostboyI just got back from seeing it!
stickin it!!
Quote from: GhostboyI just got back from seeing it! It was good but not great, but I'd still very highly recommend it, because the style Ang Lee uses here is pretty awesome. First of all, the script isn't anything deep or grand...it's a comic book movie. There's a little bit of that Greek Tragedy element, but not much (and it ends up being the lamest part of the movie, honestly). Blade 2 did the whole Greek Tragedy thing a million times better than this. The actors all do good work, but only because they don't second guess the material.
Now, what makes the movie is the style. Because of the way Lee's approached the story, the shallowness of the script actually works. If you've read any of the original Hulk comics...that's what this is. It's a 1960s horror/sci-fi comic come to life, literally (and I wish they'd have gone all the way and set it in the sixties, too). The best part of the movie is the way it's edited...you really have no idea how well the 'panelling' editing style works. It's fantastic, and it immediately gets you in the right mood (it also helps the hour or so of exposition at the beginning of the movie whip by). Furthermore, the special effects are great. They really don't look any different than what you've already seen on your TV screen, but in the context of the movie, its clear that Lee made a definite stylistic choice in his representation of this character, and it works incredibly well. The close-ups of the Hulk's face are all very good, and surprisingly, he looks the most realistic in the desert scenes. That desert chase...man, it's a blast. The sound design in that sequence is terrific.
There's a point where it seems certain that the movie will end, complete with a perfect 'To Be Continued' moment. Unfortunately, it does continue, and from that point on the movie is just dumb and awkward. But aside from that, I'd say you'll get your money's worth.
Largely, I felt the same way about the script. If it werent for the stylistic choices on the parts of Lee and his designers, it would have made for a much less compelling movie. It was barely compelling on its own; the aural and visual aesthetics are what really kept things going. That and the constant undertone of anger really kept things alive.
*BIG FAT SPOILER THAT RUINED MACGUFFIN'S NOT WANTING TO KNOW ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE ENDING*Id have to disagree about the ending though. I thought it was the most interesting thing done. When Nolte goes nuts-- from that point on I thought the movie pushed above and beyond the call of duty, and it really hit the tragedy of it home. I also liked the visual allusion to Atlas when Hulk was in the lab, lifting that thing onto his shoulders.
Quote from: ©bradQuote from: BankyEdwardsI heard there was an anal sex scene between CG Hulk and Nick Nolte.
u wish. if ur avatar wasn't so hot i'd cut u.
What the fuck does that id cut you shit mean? Dosent anyone have a sense of humor anymore. But thanks i know my avatar is the shit. Hey, you know the writing above the avatar that says things like extra, screenwriter......, how can you write personalized things?
titles are changed by admins if you are preferrable to us or you're an admin.
You have to earn yours just like I did
how do you earn it ?
It just happens.
I was close to giving you one for those fucking AVs. My god, they're distracting.
Quote from: Bankyhow do you earn it ?
I was gonna say to kiss the admins asses, but I think we all would rather kiss yours...or, rather, hers.
Yes, that is a wonderful WONDERFUL av, Banky.
Man...
yeah im happy with it
haha every other day sumone praises banky's av. dude must feel like milhouse when he becomes fallout boy.
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there are 2 ways to get a new rank,
one: earn it properly through creating a natural identity which can grow and is not one dimensional. usually occurs with newb prodigies.
or two: just post a whole lot until sumone notices, quantity over quality, an over-poster. i prefer awarding the first.
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Where are you getting these pictures from'/
I think those are the Maxim pics
yeah they are just her maxim spread. I just use a microsoft picture program to add shit to it. I have a new AV im gonna try out soon. Maybe the effort of creating entertaining AV's will raise my "rank"
also will somone respond to this i miss the MAtrix discussions
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