Lost (spoilers)

Started by MacGuffin, October 07, 2004, 01:10:26 AM

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Sleepless

That episode beats out the Desmond/Nuke ep as the best of the season so far. Loved that brief statue glimpse... which happened right around when the plane crashed, right? Which makes me wonder if Sun and Sayid are actually stuck back whenever that was?

Loved the reveal that Sayer was a higher up at Dharma. Awesome. And I don't care what y'all say, I liked him with Juliet. Like Bonanzataz says, I suddenly find myself liking her now. To reintroduce the Sawyer-Kate romance at this point seems stupid to me. Especially since Kate has caught the complete-and-utterly-boring virus from Jack in their three years together off the island.

Everything kinda makes sense to me now. Apart from why Locke skipped three years into the future when he left the island. That's the one thing I can't figure out. Same thing happened to Ben though, didn't it? Did it? Huh?

I didn't realize there wasn't an ep this week. Man that sucks ass. I'm gonna rewatch this most recent ep then.
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seriously. i thought the whole reason they start the season in january was so there could be new episodes every week.
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Oh man, I can't believe how satisfying this show is. That lurch Juliet gave when she heard the baby's name. Sayid's face. Jack's tight shirt. Man, shit is going to get so tense between this huge love quadrangle, I can't wait to see where they take it.

And I had a dream about how the series ends. If I'm right, Peter Sarsgaard shows up as a Dharma Initiative recruit, and it's all a dream. That's probably wrong. I think the series will end with Sawyer and Kate being stuck in the past together, and lying down to die next to black and white stones. That would be a very poetic, transcendent ending. Maybe they had to sacrifice themselves to send everyone back to the present. Anyway, great episode, cannot wait to see where it goes.
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MacGuffin

'Lost': Finally, some answers
Source: Los Angeles Times

Most weeks "Lost" raises more questions than it answers. Tonight, we got more answers than questions. But not by much -- we still have plenty of questions. What made "Namaste" a great episode was the manner in which it gave us the answers. Instead of having everything spelled out, we got our answers casually, dropped in throughout the episode. So casually, in fact, that those who complain that the show never answers anything could easily continue their gripes, because on "Lost," the answers come only to those willing to pay close attention.

Some of the questions answered:

The identity of Horace and Amy's baby? It's Ethan -- the Other who abducted Claire back in Season 1 and wound up getting killed by Charlie. Which means not all of the Dharmas got killed in the Purge. Makes you wonder who else survived to join the Others....

The "when" of the Ajira plane landing and Locke, Sun, Frank and Ben? It's now. Thirty years since 1977.

How did Ben wind up unconscious when Locke found him? Sun knocked him out.

Why did the Others ask Michael to bring back Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer at the end of Season 2?  And how did they know their names? Because Ben obviously remembers them from his youth. We saw young Ben encounter Sayid (though he thinks he's an Other), he no doubt remembered the rest of the time travelers.

Who was Radzinsky? Kelvin's suicidal partner in the Swan Station was previously known only to us by the bloody stain he left on the ceiling when he blew his brains out. But back in 1977, we learn Radzinsky was a high-strung radio operator who had a hand in designing the station that eventually drove him to suicide. Judging by the annoying few moments we had to spend with him in tonight's episode, I'd say suicide was definitely an improvement for him.

But despite these holes in the story tied up for us, we're still left with some questions and half-formed notions. (Did we expect anything less? It's "Lost," people!)

Just what happened to Faraday? We saw him at the very beginning of this season as the Dharmas were about to uncover the frozen donkey wheel. And Sawyer informed Jack that Faraday wasn't around anymore. So where did Faraday go? We're guessing he's somewhere else in time -- maybe he's back in the present? Naaaaaah, too easy.

What's the connection between Christian and the Smoke Monster? Just as Sun and Frank were approaching Dharmaville, Smokey made an unseen cameo and Christian appeared soon after. A coincidence? Hardly. Recall that Smokey has impersonated the dead before -- he appeared to Mr. Eko as his dead brother just before killing him back in Season 3. But that raises an intriguing possibility. If Christian is actually Smokey in disguise, then Christian in the cabin is Smokey, which means Jacob, the mysterious "man behind the curtain" may, in fact, be the Smoke Monster.

And finally, for you HDTV users, what is the nature of the girl hiding in the shadows behind Sun near the end of her encounter with Christian? Go back and look closely -- just after Christian showed Sun the 1977 class photo of the Dharmas, we see a quick shot of Sun, and there, just over her left shoulder we see what looks like a girl, hiding in the shadows, move her head toward the camera. What do you think? Important clue or glaring production gaffe? My money's on the former. Remember that just before this little incident, we were treated to a VERY blatant shot of the door to the cabin mysteriously blowing open on its own and the smoke/fog/mist swirling inside.

From the previews for next week, it looks like the harmony in Dharma Town won't last too much longer, but will Jack and Sawyer learn to work together again? It certainly didn't take them too long to slip back into their old antagonistic roles. But geez, I'll bet Jack could encounter a resurrected John Locke and still treat him like he's a crazy person. Sawyer appears to have mellowed, but Jack is as testy as ever. He's got to work on that bad attitude.

Meanwhile, I don't foresee any good future for poor Juliet. It's only a matter of time before Sawyer goes back to that home wrecker, Kate. And once that happens, who knows how Juliet will take it? She used to be sinister, then she mellowed. I'm betting the sinister Juliet makes a comeback to do something really evil to Kate. And would she be in the wrong?

We already know a major death is coming soon to "Lost," so we'll know very soon if it's Juliet or Kate. Or ... someone else.
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mogwai

a very george lucasian ending, it's like the creators of lost thinks we're stupid. of course we knew it was young ben talking to sayid, bitch!

Fernando

Black monster does exists!

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btw, awesome episode, can't wait for next week.

also just read at aicn that the season finale will be a two hours special.

polkablues

Quote from: MacGuffin on March 19, 2009, 11:50:44 AM
'Lost': Finally, some answers
Source: Los Angeles Times

And finally, for you HDTV users, what is the nature of the girl hiding in the shadows behind Sun near the end of her encounter with Christian? Go back and look closely -- just after Christian showed Sun the 1977 class photo of the Dharmas, we see a quick shot of Sun, and there, just over her left shoulder we see what looks like a girl, hiding in the shadows, move her head toward the camera. What do you think? Important clue or glaring production gaffe? My money's on the former.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/4/4e/509_sun_woman2.jpg

My money's on the latter.  I'm giving 5 to 1 odds that's a PA who was standing in the wrong place.
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Kal

How ridiculously amazing is this show? I never thought 40+ minutes of TV would be so great and make me so happy.

Once again I had the great idea of watching this on the airplane, which freaked out the fat guy who was sitting next to me as soon as it started. He probably thinks I'm insane to watch a plane crash while we're flying, but hell if the chances are to crash in that island and find Kate, so be it.


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Quote from: polkablues on March 19, 2009, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on March 19, 2009, 11:50:44 AM
'Lost': Finally, some answers
Source: Los Angeles Times

And finally, for you HDTV users, what is the nature of the girl hiding in the shadows behind Sun near the end of her encounter with Christian? Go back and look closely -- just after Christian showed Sun the 1977 class photo of the Dharmas, we see a quick shot of Sun, and there, just over her left shoulder we see what looks like a girl, hiding in the shadows, move her head toward the camera. What do you think? Important clue or glaring production gaffe? My money's on the former.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/4/4e/509_sun_woman2.jpg

My money's on the latter.  I'm giving 5 to 1 odds that's a PA who was standing in the wrong place.

Yeah me too, it looks like she has somekind of a logo t-shirt... hardly a dreadful spectre costume (orwhatever)

Sleepless

I really thought we were going to find out that Sayid and Sun were going to be back in the prehistoric time period that the island briefly flashed to - revealing the intact statue - just as the plane crashed. Seems not. But maybe that's where Faraday is instead then. The fact that we saw him underneath the orchid as it was being constructed in the opening seconds of the season tells me that's where this season is building to. And if so the finale could be pretty awesome, centering on Faraday blowing the lid off all this time-travel madness. And since Desmond is his constant, he should play a pretty big role too. Yeay!

And I still hate Jack and Kate. They make me yawn. Boo!
He held on. The dolphin and all the rest of its pod turned and swam out to sea, and still he held on. This is it, he thought. Then he remembered that they were air-breathers too. It was going to be all right.

Kal

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ADMIN-EDIT: POTENTIAL BIG SPOILS FOR FUTURE EPISODES

I just read this:

An ABC insider confirms that Lost will begin filming a wedding ceremony later today that is slated to air during the show's two-hour finale on May 13. Who's getting hitched? Here are a pair of clues: Actors of Asian-American descent are being sought to play extras, and the wedding will take place on the mainland, not the island. That pretty much rules out Jack/Kate or Sawyer/Juliet. "One theory is that it's a flashback to Sun and Jin's wedding," whispers a Lost insider. "But the wild rumor is that Sun and Jin's daughter will marry Aaron in the future."

And I'm also wondering... where the hell are Rose & Bernard? And the other plane people who did not get rescued and stayed at the island? They must have suffered the flashbacks and they have to be somewhere? Nobody ever talks about that.