Anyone ever order from 8mmfilmstock.com?

[mutinyco]

Kubrick used source lighting on everything. By that, I mean the lights you see are all there is. If there's a lamp in the room or a window...that's where the light is coming from.

Most D.P.'s cut light. They sculpt it for each shot. They use lights hidden off-screen and cut it with flags and diffuse them with screens, etc. But Kubrick used real sources. That way he could move more freely and shoot in low light levels. Also looks better.

Watch Eyes Wide Shut on the big screen, not DVD, and you'll notice a huge difference.

[Bud_Clay]

I can't imagine there being enough light to see anything on film by not using any extra lighting, much less create such images as he did.  Was it the fact that he was using that camera he assembled with the lens NASA designed?  I don't think he even had that camera until he was ready to shoot Barry Lyndon.

[mutinyco]

You can see examples of source lighting in his work as far back at Killer's Kiss. He always preferred it. For Barry Lyndon he had Nasa lenses fitted to a coule of old Mitchell BNC cameras.

But between advances in lenses and film stock he shot with source lighting. If you don't think that film is sensitive enough then you don't know much about film at this point. Stuff nowadays is ultrasensitive.

[Bud_Clay]

If you don't think that film is sensitive enough then you don't know much about film at this point. Stuff nowadays is ultrasensitive.

I could stand to know a little bit more.  The only reason it seems impossible to me to only use source lighting is because, especially in doors, I have the worst trouble having enough light to shoot anything.  Perhaps 8mm is less sensitive & doesnt have the kind of exposure 35mm does.  Besides that it seems that most of the sets using 35mm have these high voltage lights to create enough light for the film.  I guess I just don't understand how if a few lamps in a room are enough to light an entire scene, I don't see why it's at all considered to have these gigantic lights on some sets.  And then, of course, there is the consideration of foil and such.

[mutinyco]

Most film interiors -- and this might be an exaggeration -- use stocks with ASA's from 320 to 500. You don't have that luxury on 8mm. Look at the film speed on the stocks. The Vision 200 was the fastest thing there, right? Another consideration is the lenses. You're dealing with super high speed lenses for 35mm. You can open up to like a 1.2 or more. The NASA lenses Kubrick had got to 0.7, I think. Again, you don't have that luxury in 8mm.

Watch Kubrick's films. His shots are so wide and they move through so much territory that they only could have been lit with sources. Watch Eyes Wide Shut or The Shining...

The reason you see big lights on most movie sets is because most D.P.'s like to sculpt light. They need the big equipment to make them feel important.

I believe in simplicity.

[mutinyco]

Go to:

http://www.cinematographer.com

It's the online version of American Cinematographer.

I would reccommend that you shoot with the Vision 200. Put 200 watt bulbs in all your lamps or sources. Then perhaps grab a Chinese paper lantern to bring up the room tone a bit. Make sure to get a good light reading. Should look wonderful.

[Bud_Clay]

Thanks very much.  I've put a lot of this information down in my notes. Yeah I think that's a great idea.

[Thecowgoooesmooo]

Hey Bill let me know how it goes getting the 8mm film.

Im going to be shooting a short film on super 8mm very soon.  I think Im gonna order straight from Kodak.

If ya need to talk about 8mm film, Im your guy.
I transfer hundreds of ft of 8mm a day at my work.

Also for transfers, let me know if ya need anything, because I can get you a really great deal.


chris

[Xixax]

What can you transfer to, and what kind of costs are usually involved with transferring 8mm to, say, mini-dv?

Sounds like it could be actually affordable.

[aclockworkjj]

What can you transfer to, and what kind of costs are usually involved with transferring 8mm to, say, mini-dv?

Sounds like it could be actually affordable.

Make sure you get it done right....I know of a lot of places that will just project it and set up a video camera.....

...side note: It really amazes me how many people are looking for 8mm or Super 8mm projectors....they were like gold at this place I used to work...(mostly old family vacations and stuff)

....in college I came across some Super 8mm porn and old Flintstone cartoons...kinda a funny combo.....

[Bud_Clay]

Hey Bill let me know how it goes getting the 8mm film.

Im going to be shooting a short film on super 8mm very soon.  I think Im gonna order straight from Kodak.

If ya need to talk about 8mm film, Im your guy.
I transfer hundreds of ft of 8mm a day at my work.

Also for transfers, let me know if ya need anything, because I can get you a really great deal.


chris

It was fine actually.  The post office fucked it up and they had to reship the film to me.  Got to me just in time as well.  

I would absolutely LOVE to get some great deals on transfers.  And also on developing for that matter.  Once I get this film developed I'll need to get it transfered to Mini DV.

[bonanzataz]

The reason you see big lights on most movie sets is because most D.P.'s like to sculpt light. They need the big equipment to make them feel important.

I believe in simplicity.

if i EVER get a chance to make a movie, i would want you to be my DP. you are very knowledgable on this subject and i think we both like the same kinds of cinematography (look, ma! i used a big word and now i'm a film buff!). though, i don't know if we'd get along. i kind of felt like you thought i was an asshole at the PDL screening! (that was you, right?)

[mutinyco]

If you want me to shoot your film you'd better hurry up. I have plans of my own...

[Xixax]

i kind of felt like you thought i was an asshole at the PDL screening!

And how is this different than any other person on any other day in your life, Taz?

:P

[Xixax]

Wow. A perfectly good insult, completely ignored.