XIXAX Film Forum


Annette (Leos Carax)

wrongright · 20 · 802

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

wrongright

  • The Road of Trials
  • **
    • Posts: 62
on: April 19, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Will be the Opening film at Cannes.



wilberfan

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 2353
  • PTA PhD
Reply #1 on: April 19, 2021, 06:40:40 PM
Clearly not subtitled, "The Story of a Mouseketeer".


Alma

  • The Vision Quest
  • **
    • Posts: 170
Reply #2 on: June 03, 2021, 11:43:15 AM
First song from the film. I keep getting it in my head over the past few days.



jenkins

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 4461
Reply #3 on: June 03, 2021, 09:34:49 PM
that's Russell at the beginning of course. Adam enters at 1:06

Wright's doc covers all sorts of songs and, you know, if they're doing their thing lots of people should have lots of different favorite songs, but this is both one of their most well-known songs and a particular favorite of mine, for those new to Sparks



jenkins

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 4461
Reply #4 on: June 05, 2021, 12:56:29 PM
Advertisements for the doc have started to appear so they’re further on my mind these days. Here is information I’ve previously mentioned

The Sparks song in Holy Motors



The Sparks song with the voice of Carax



The Sparks song with a director who I’ll let you guess



jenkins

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 4461
Reply #5 on: July 21, 2021, 07:23:25 PM
it evokes feelings closest to Pola X among other Carax movies, in other words it's dark. and Sparks didn't write a dark musical, this is what Carax made it. which Carax meta references. it's a movie about a downward spiral and I felt myself going down with it, sometimes in an impressive way, in other words grand cinematic statements, along with bits of humor here and there

it's the kind of movie watching experience in which because I didn't quite anticipate how the movie would feel I do want to see the movie again


jenkins

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 4461
Reply #6 on: July 28, 2021, 12:30:52 AM
Carax in person is a pretty big deal

https://americancinematheque.com/now-showing/annette/

TUE AUGUST 10, 2021
7:30 PM
ANNETTE

Free
Aero Theatre | Q&A following with Leos Carax, Sparks, and actor Simon Helberg

Attendees with RSVPs will be admitted on a first come, first served basis until the theatre reaches capacity.


WorldForgot

  • Moderator
  • *****
    • Posts: 1459
  • 'change your hair, change your life'
    • portfolio ~
Reply #7 on: July 28, 2021, 10:26:38 AM
I'm not an American Cinematheque member, but that's frkn cool ~


wilberfan

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 2353
  • PTA PhD
Reply #8 on: July 28, 2021, 11:51:36 AM
I became a member a month or so ago...but I have no idea who any of those people are!   :lol:


Robyn

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 1707
Reply #9 on: July 28, 2021, 11:55:37 AM
You should watch Lovers on the bridge! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101318/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

One of my all time favorites.


Robyn

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 1707
Reply #10 on: July 28, 2021, 11:56:30 AM
And Sparks! Come on.



wilberfan

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 2353
  • PTA PhD
Reply #11 on: July 28, 2021, 12:00:48 PM
I just watched the THE SPARKS BROTHERS a week or so ago, so claims of unhipness can no longer be levied against me.


jenkins

  • The Master of Two Worlds
  • *****
    • Posts: 4461
Reply #12 on: July 28, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
I don't think you'll like Annette, other Carax movies, or any Sparks music, but it's a big deal event and you can like those. other notable people will also be present as guests, is my guess

that movie you were once able to find for me, thanks again, Ticket of No Return, is going to be on the criterion channel next month, via, yes, Linklater. also To the Ends of the Earth will be, and I remember you, somewhat hilariously, said "life just feels too short these days" about finishing that movie


Yes

  • The Meeting with the Goddess
  • ***
    • Posts: 418
Reply #13 on: August 07, 2021, 09:48:20 PM
This isn’t a spoiler but is the police station track an actual Sparks song? It’s not on soundtrack


Jeremy Blackman

  • Admin
  • *****
    • Posts: 12611
Reply #14 on: August 28, 2021, 04:13:38 PM
Listen, I'm posting this with a Dancer In The Dark avatar, so hopefully it's clear that I'm up for an unconventional musical. But this feels lifeless.

I think there are two good scenes in the movie: Adam Driver acting out the tickling episode on stage, and the orbital shot around the conductor. Outside of those precious few minutes of vitality, this film is a dull, motionless slog.

Carax's poor direction is largely to blame, but I think the biggest problem is the thing that should be the centerpiece—the lyrics. It's mind-numbing sixth-grade-level prose. It's as though Sparks realized they couldn't write good lyrics for a musical, so they decided that repeating a line five times might give it the illusion of meaning. The concepts are imaginative, but the execution... is just not.

In the spirit of generosity I was hoping to learn that the movie was intentionally bad, and maybe this was meant as some kind of savage takedown of opera or musicals, but that really doesn’t seem to be the case. Certainly it's meant to be funny and off-the-wall, and there are some vague flirtations with parody, but nothing that ever coalesces. Rather, it seems the intention is more of a generalized “we’re not interested in doing your typical Hollywood musical.” (The interviews with Carax and Sparks are a bit nauseating.)

The movie-musical elements, which should have some sense of fun to them, usually lack any joy or kineticism. The breaking-into-song moments clearly attempt to evoke a feeling of surprise but fall flat. I think the problem is a specific shortfall of the compositions—there will often be a Grand Canyon-sized gap in the lyrics as we listen to the dull backing track and wait for the singers (or non-singers, in many cases) to re-join. The film constantly kneecaps its own momentum where it clearly intends to excite.

It's a shame, because some of the tunes are very catchy and compelling. They just don't have lyrics to match it. I wish they'd admitted that early on. Good writers exist, it's okay if you have to hire one.

The final "big emotions" scene did not land for me. I see what they're going for, and I want it to work, but it doesn't. I just don't understand why they didn't do a few more takes.
"Hunger is the purest sin"