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Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: SubstanceD on February 18, 2003, 04:13:26 PM
Does anyone know any specifications on the Dawn of the Dead DVD they're planning on releasing this summer. That should be awesome.

Also, I was wondering if anybody knew if it is possible to find Irreversible on VCD anywhere?

Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: MacGuffin on February 18, 2003, 05:14:09 PM
Quote from: SubstanceDDoes anyone know any specifications on the Dawn of the Dead DVD they're planning on releasing this summer.

DAWN OF THE DEAD - Fall/Winter 2003

George Romero's masterpiece is coming back to DVD in a big way.  Featuring newly re-mastered widescreen transfers (16x9 enhanced), new DTS & Dolby EX Surround Sound, all-new cast & crew interviews, all-new audio commentary tracks, trailers, poster & still galleries and more!  Available separately will be the original Theatrical Version and the Extended (Director's Cut) Version.  Also available will be a special multi-disc box set including an exclusive presentation of the ZOMBI version of the film from Europe.  Expect more announcements in the coming months, and please note all features at this point are tentative and subject to change. Closed Captioned for the Hearing Impaired.
Title: Dawn of the Dead
Post by: SubstanceD on February 18, 2003, 06:53:57 PM
THAT's GONNA BE SWWEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT!!!!!!! 8)
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: MacGuffin on February 18, 2003, 07:12:59 PM
I guess it would be if you didn't buy the other two releases:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvdmaniacs.net%2Fimages%2FCovers%2FDawn.jpg&hash=ea438348298041a02b20c5805793775ef5a31cbb)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvdmaniacs.net%2Fimages%2FCovers%2FDawn_20th.jpg&hash=7e92143771f03a4d6b02ca19d070675d2bda26fc)

Anchor Bay is doing with this film as it has been doing with Army Of Darkness (6 DVD versions) and Halloween (5 DVD versions).
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Cecil on February 18, 2003, 08:46:10 PM
i know roger avary is doing a commentary for dawn
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: MacGuffin on March 06, 2003, 01:38:54 AM
Zack Snyder Directing Dawn of the Dead Remake

Strike Entertainment has set commercials wizard Zack Snyder to direct the remake of George Romero's horror classic Dawn of the Dead, digging up a June start date for the zombie redo, says Variety. The film is Strike's first go project since it struck a four-year production and co-financing deal at Universal, who will distribute the film in North America and most of the world.

James Gunn (Scooby-Doo) has scripted a reinvention of a 1979 film that cost $640,000 and became a highly profitable cult favorite. The film revolved around a swarm of slow-moving cannibalistic corpses who snack on the inhabitants of a shopping mall.

The contemporized version aims to place a greater emphasis on action and a young cast than the original, adds the trade. The film was Romero's sequel to the groundbreaking Night of the Living Dead.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: bonanzataz on March 06, 2003, 10:52:31 AM
Why don't they just rerelease dawn and put a techno track in the background whenever zombies show up.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Mark2003 on April 26, 2003, 02:09:46 AM
Quote from: bonanzatazWhy don't they just rerelease dawn and put a techno track in the background whenever zombies show up.

lol, i can imagine the wandering zombies in the ice rink during the end credits with a thumping modern day techno tune in the background.

Ever since i've seen Dawn Of The Dead, that eerie mall tune has been stuck in my head for years.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ernie on April 27, 2003, 07:12:01 PM
Why do I find myself actually wanting to see Irreversible? I guess I'm a whore for controversy...I don't know.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 27, 2003, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: ebeaman69Why do I find myself actually wanting to see Irreversible? I guess I'm a whore for controversy...I don't know.

i saw it last night. fucking horrible. a boring ,infintile attempt at a film. ive taken shits that have been more amusing.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ghostboy on April 27, 2003, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtis
Quote from: ebeaman69Why do I find myself actually wanting to see Irreversible? I guess I'm a whore for controversy...I don't know.

i saw it last night. fucking horrible. a boring ,infintile attempt at a film. ive took shits that have been more amusing.

Well, I liked it.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 27, 2003, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Quote from: cowboykurtis
Quote from: ebeaman69Why do I find myself actually wanting to see Irreversible? I guess I'm a whore for controversy...I don't know.

i saw it last night. fucking horrible. a boring ,infintile attempt at a film. ive took shits that have been more amusing.

Well, I liked it.

what did you like about it...im curious.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ghostboy on April 27, 2003, 08:56:09 PM
The movie doesn't work as a story, narrative or otherwise, and I don't think it was intended to -- what Noe does do is take our expectations of a linear storyline and uses them against us. Even 'Memento,' although it was played in reverse, followed the same structural path as any normal narrative. The reason I think Irreversible is brilliant was summed up in a review, the author of which I forget, that stated that the film is not about the narrative, but about you watching it. I think it's about your reaction to the events, and the way the sequencing manipulates your feelings about them. I tried to convey this in my own review on my website.

I think it's interesting that you think it's boring, though. My thoughts on the film may not be applicable if you found it easy to dismiss. I found the whole thing pretty riveting, and the ending/beginning was particularly shaking.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 27, 2003, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: GhostboyThe movie doesn't work as a story, narrative or otherwise, and I don't think it was intended to -- what Noe does do is take our expectations of a linear storyline and uses them against us. Even 'Memento,' although it was played in reverse, followed the same structural path as any normal narrative. The reason I think Irreversible is brilliant was summed up in a review, the author of which I forget, that stated that the film is not about the narrative, but about you watching it. I think it's about your reaction to the events, and the way the sequencing manipulates your feelings about them. I tried to convey this in my own review on my website.

I think it's interesting that you think it's boring, though. My thoughts on the film may not be applicable if you found it easy to dismiss. I found the whole thing pretty riveting, and the ending/beginning was particularly shaking.

the execution of having the camera shake and wander around aimlessly for the first 20 mintues of a film, doesn't show me anything brilliant. one can aruge all day that this was an attempt to confuse the audience or create a disorientating feeling or heighten this man's frenetic state of anger -- wonderful, thats psuedo intellectual hog wash. of course if you shake a fucking camera around for 20 mintues people are going to feel that. and if he feels he's assualting the audience and making them  conciously aware that they're indeed "viewing of a film", by ending a film with a strobe effect -- he should be working at a carnival -- theres no artistry or inventiveness behind it. i really dont like films that label themselves as brilliant, simply because they have an unortahdox approach. one of the easiest things to do is break conventions. however, working within conventions and still creating a breath of fresh air is another story. concerning my reaction to the events in the film -- i had none -- i wasnt disturbed or riveted or excited or moved. his filmmaking techniques almost forces you to be AWARE of his process. if you're aware that you're watching a movie, it is not possible to be affected. this guy's a gimick. anyone can shoot violent images of mayhem. however using violence to enhance the natural progression of a story  takes much more skill. i found him to be very irresponisble and infintile at his attempt to make a  film. he wasted 2 hrs of my life.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ghostboy on April 28, 2003, 12:38:59 AM
Quote from: cowboykurtishis filmmaking techniques almost forces you to be AWARE of his process. if you're aware that you're watching a movie, it is not possible to be affected.

See, that's where I disagree. I was completely aware of the process the entire time, more so than usual, but the fact that I still got emotionally involved despite that was why it worked for me.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Satcho9 on April 28, 2003, 01:31:27 AM
Anyone know if and when the US DVD for Irreversible is coming out??
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ernie on April 28, 2003, 09:07:05 PM
^yeah, I definitely want to rent this. Macguffin probably knows, right?

cowboycurtis: I haven't been able to take anything you say seriously since that avatar man...no joke. I'm sorry but...jesus, that messed with my head. I don't think I'm the only one that made it a point never to see that pic ever in their lives...just by reading about it....reading for fuck's sake. I never wanted to imagine what it could possibly be and to think that I actually SAW it...I still get chills.

ghostboy: I heard irreversible had a lot of kubrick references? true or false? Also, is there any other disturbing scenes other than the well-known rape scene and the fire extinguisher scene? Also, do you like irreversible better than memento? Cause I hate memento and was hoping I would like irreversible.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 28, 2003, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: ebeaman69^yeah, I definitely want to rent this. Macguffin probably knows, right?

cowboycurtis: I haven't been able to take anything you say seriously since that avatar man...no joke. I'm sorry but...jesus, that messed with my head. I don't think I'm the only one that made it a point never to see that pic ever in their lives...just by reading about it....reading for fuck's sake. I never wanted to imagine what it could possibly be and to think that I actually SAW it...I still get chills.

ghostboy: I heard irreversible had a lot of kubrick references? true or false? Also, is there any other disturbing scenes other than the well-known rape scene and the fire extinguisher scene? Also, do you like irreversible better than memento? Cause I hate memento and was hoping I would like irreversible.

someone hacked into my profile and put that avatar on. i posted about it and apologized. do you actually think id willingly put that on my avatar? if so, go fuck yourself.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Sleuth on April 28, 2003, 09:26:22 PM
I can see how somebody would willingly put it as their avatar (in jest)

I seriously think you guys are too sensitive.  It's been like what, a week already?
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 28, 2003, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: tremoloslothI can see how somebody would willingly put it as their avatar (in jest)

I seriously think you guys are too sensitive.  It's been like what, a week already?

i agree. i constantly get people bitching to me about it. i didnt even see what the image was.  the way they are reacting -- i mine as well be responisible for the fucknig holocaust.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ghostboy on April 28, 2003, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: ebeaman69

ghostboy: I heard irreversible had a lot of kubrick references? true or false? Also, is there any other disturbing scenes other than the well-known rape scene and the fire extinguisher scene? Also, do you like irreversible better than memento? Cause I hate memento and was hoping I would like irreversible.

I like Memento okay, but I think Irreversible is a hell of a lot better. They're not really comparable, though.

Those two scenes you mention are sort of the breaking points of the first half, which is altogether pretty unsettling.

There are some blatant Kubrick homages; if you like the movie, like me, you'll love them. If you don't like the movie, those references will make it seem all the lamer.

And ease up on Cowboykurtis, that avatar clearly wasn't his fault.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Ernie on April 29, 2003, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtissomeone hacked into my profile and put that avatar on. i posted about it and apologized. do you actually think id willingly put that on my avatar? if so, go fuck yourself.

Ok...ok, I didn't fucking know that. I was hoping you wouldn't be that sick...I'm sorry. It's cool if you had no idea.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 30, 2003, 12:31:22 AM
Quote from: ebeaman69
Quote from: cowboykurtissomeone hacked into my profile and put that avatar on. i posted about it and apologized. do you actually think id willingly put that on my avatar? if so, go fuck yourself.

Ok...ok, I didn't fucking know that. I was hoping you wouldn't be that sick...I'm sorry. It's cool if you had no idea.

all is gravy
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cachilders on April 30, 2003, 05:34:20 AM
ghostboy is not alone, it's an incredible movie and it is nothing like memento.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: Thecowgoooesmooo on April 30, 2003, 08:10:15 AM
is it just me, but i remember watchin dawn of the dead about a year ago for the 1st time, and i remember seeing a small part of the camera man in the reflection of a mirror, during this scene with the little boy in the room who trys to bite some guy

can anyone confirm this>? or was i imagining things?


chris
Title: Re: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: dufresne on April 30, 2003, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: SubstanceD
Also, I was wondering if anybody knew if it is possible to find Irreversible on VCD anywhere?


i know this won't help you, but i was able to d/l a divx file of Irreversible.  no subtitles though.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: SubstanceD on May 01, 2003, 08:21:52 PM
theres no artistry or inventiveness behind it. i really dont like films that label themselves as brilliant, simply because they have an unortahdox approach. one of the easiest things to do is break conventions. however, working within conventions and still creating a breath of fresh air is another story. concerning my reaction to the events in the film -- i had none -- i wasnt disturbed or riveted or excited or moved. his filmmaking techniques almost forces you to be AWARE of his process. if you're aware that you're watching a movie, it is not possible to be affected. this guy's a gimick. anyone can shoot violent images of mayhem. however using violence to enhance the natural progression of a story  takes much more skill. i found him to be very irresponisble and infintile at his attempt to make a  film. he wasted 2 hrs of my life.[/quote]

Who says movies have to have artistry or inventiveness to them. Is that what makes a movie good? You just want to disagree for the sake of being unique and special.
Title: Dawn of the Dead and Irreversible
Post by: cowboykurtis on May 01, 2003, 08:48:44 PM
i never said films HAVE to have inventiveness. but when the first 20 mintues of a film has the camera aimlessly swirling around and around: i find this to be a desperate attempt at TRYING to be ineventive. im not disagreeing just to be unique. its my opinion -- am i not entiltled to that? have you seen the film? if not, dont argue about things you dont know of. and dont tell me what i am. i dont make judgements on you, buddy.