Alexander

Started by MacGuffin, May 25, 2004, 07:58:59 PM

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Finn

As far the as the gay thing is concerned, throughout the film Colin Farrell and another guy hug a lot. (according to Ebert)

LOL I'm starting to think Roger Ebert might well be the second coming of Christ.
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©brad

ppl are making too big a deal about the gay thing, like the frogs in magnolia. look, i seriously doubt back then they even addressed what homosexuality was.  i can't imagine ppl back then going "alexander, what a fag." it was just the norm- have a few wives, bang dudes on the side. from my knowledge women were more or less used as avenues to get more sons and more dicks out there in the military. boys were there to just do and have fun with.

so um, chill out.

cine

Thanks cbrad. That needed to be said.

MacGuffin

Quote from: ©bradppl are making too big a deal about the gay thing, like the frogs in magnolia.

How do you know the frogs in Magnolia were gay?
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©brad

well they're green, and slimy, and they like to hop on things. i just assumed.

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Saw this tonight and it blew me away how really mediocre this film really was and how it was drawn out. By the way, Thanks Mod for the Ticket.
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'Alexander' Conquers Few Greek Hearts

As an ancient warrior, Alexander the Great conquered most of the known world. As a Hollywood icon, he had trouble winning over a few hundred Athenians.

Oliver Stone's "Alexander," with Colin Farrell in the title role and Val Kilmer and Angelina Jolie as his parents, opened in cinemas here Friday, but the word "Great" was in short supply among those who attended a special screening Thursday.

"Farrell fell short. Val Kilmer played his role like a one-eyed cowboy. And Angelina Jolie showed off her beauty but not her talent," critic Dimitris Danikas wrote in Athens' Ta Nea newspaper, one of Greece's largest circulation dailies.

Greeks had been eagerly anticipating the movie. They were particularly curious to see how Stone would treat the historical debate over whether Alexander was bisexual.

A group of Greek lawyers who had threatened to sue Warner Bros. if homosexual "innuendoes" were too strong sat in the audience. After the movie, they dismissed the film as unworthy of their efforts.

"I think that if we attach importance to this innuendo we will give too much importance to a film that doesn't deserve it," said Costas Koutsoulelos, one of the lawyers.

Some critics even deprived Stone of one of his trademarks his ability to stir controversy.

"The film is a bit flat ... It doesn't annoy you, but doesn't inspire you either," said Panayiotis Timoyiannakis, a critic for the Athens daily Eleftheros Typos.
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Alexandro

Not as bad as everyone's saying, but without a doubt the lowest point in Stone's career....

That first hour was dreadful, wide opened mouth I watched these scenes, that LOOOOOOOON BORING narration by Anthony Hopkins...the unintentionally funny scenes between Farrell, Jolie and Kilmer...

Once the first battle starts, the film gains some momentum...Stone is great with this kind of thing...the blood, the dusty confussion of battle, body parts flying around, all that...some of the visuals are great but a lot of them look even cheap...the way the love relationship between alexander and hephastion is never consumed is almost insulting in a way...

I think a terrible aspect of the whole movie, besides these absurd jumps in times (suddenly he's the king, suddenly he conquered asia, suddenly he marries rosario dawson), is vangelis music...why didn't stone used john williams??? he provided great music for nixon and jfk...vangelis music sounds like from a gay porn film with a big budget...

big letdown...

rustinglass

I didn't mind vangelis. But i hated most of the (over)acting. I don't remember who said that they should have given the role of alexander to philip seymour hoffman, but whoever said it is a casting genious! Can you imagine PSH sitting on a horse screaming "for freedom and GLORY OF GREECE!!!!", then riding off and bashing skull left and right? It's like the coolest image I can think of.
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Bethie

Quote from: AlexandroNot as bad as everyone's saying



You're only saying that because Alexander is more than half your name.


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Alexandro

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You're only saying that because Alexander is more than half your name.


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This was my only chance to have my name attached to a cool movie (no one ever puts alex on movie titles), and stone blew it for me...

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Alexandre Nevsky

its a great film but i don't know if it's actually "cool"

or is it that great equals cool no matter what?