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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: ©brad on January 10, 2003, 05:33:22 PM

Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: ©brad on January 10, 2003, 05:33:22 PM
The million dollar question; What next for PTA? I guess we still have the PDL DVD to look forward to, but I wish PTA worked a tad bit faster.

I remember reading an interview on Greg's site with Johnathen Demme who said that he loved PDL but wished Paul would get out of the Valley and do something different. Paul agreed that he would on the next one. He also commented on how it might be fun to adapt a book one day, which would be interesting.

I understand and respect his pace, I mean, not everyone has to be like Soderbergh and make two movies a year. I have a feeling that the next PTA picture will come much faster than PDL did after Magnolia.
Title: Re: So Now What Then?
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 10, 2003, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dThe million dollar question; What next for PTA? I guess we still have the PDL DVD to look forward to, but I wish PTA worked a tad bit faster.

I remember reading an interview on Greg's site with Johnathen Demme who said that he loved PDL but wished Paul would get out of the Valley and do something different. Paul agreed that he would on the next one. He also commented on how it might be fun to adapt a book one day, which would be interesting.

I understand and respect his pace, I mean, not everyone has to be like Soderbergh and make two movies a year. I have a feeling that the next PTA picture will come much faster than PDL did after Magnolia.

I sure hope so. Im afraid that since PDL did less than stellar (financially) it would be harder for PTA to get a movie out, or at least a comprable budget. Maybe its best for him, but I hope its not another 3 years.... Hopefully he has a sense of anxiousness to get another made.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: ©brad on January 11, 2003, 10:12:08 AM
typo, must have been drunk.  Studios love it when their movies don't turn high profits, -lol. I'm going to stop talking now.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: sphinx on January 11, 2003, 11:22:46 AM
actually, PTA films do make tons of money in rentals---magnolia made more than it did in stores than in theatres.  films with more awards tend to be more popular at rental stores.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Tommy Both on January 11, 2003, 11:45:05 AM
Quote from: sphinxactually, PTA films do make tons of money in rentals---magnolia made more than it did in stores than in theatres.  films with more awards tend to be more popular at rental stores.

So let's all pray that PDL will be a HIT in rentals :P I doubt that, well... maybe the few losers - the general BOXOFFICE audience, let me rephrase: 75% of the people - that rent at blockbuster see the name of Adam on the cover and think its a nice one to rent....
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 11, 2003, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dPTA's movies don't turn huge profits, and studios love that.

Studios love that he doesnt turn huge profits? hmmm. I think what you mean to say is they like the notoriety and prestige he brings the studios. I am sure they want to still make a profit. Say they gave him $60 mil to make a movie and it only made back $2 mil, I think they wouldnt have a problem giving another director a shot over PTA after that. Remember what happened after Spielberg and 1942?
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: MacGuffin on January 11, 2003, 02:07:45 PM
Remember on Greg's board, that Marvin The Martian guy said that PTA's next would be that animated "Jurassic Park" in space thing, didn't he? But anyway:

Let's take the case of director Victor Salva. 'Who?' you may ask.

Victor Salva wrote and directed "Clownhouse" in 1988, which screened at the Sundance Film Festival. But...

Also in 1988, he confessed to five felony counts of sexual relations with a twelve year old boy who he videotaped in sexual situations. He was then convicted as a child molester.

Then in 1995 Victor wrote and directed "Powder" (which Disney financed, by the way). And went on to write and direct "Jeepers Creepers" (with Frances Ford Coppola as an Exec. Prod., who is Victor's mentor, helping him get "Clownhouse" made) and is now doing its sequel.

I don't think PTA has anything to worry about.

Of course you make the case of 'you're only as good as your last film', but Scorsese's films haven't been box office hits either ("Kundun" anyone?), and the man continues to get films made 'cause people want to work with him, actors and producers, as is the case with PTA.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Xixax on January 11, 2003, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinAlso in 1988, he confessed to five felony counts of sexual relations with a twelve year old boy who he videotaped in sexual situations. He was then convicted as a child molester.
Yeah, but all of us here in the Bible Belt know that everyone in Hollywood is going to hell anyway, so naturally those hellfire-smoke-smelling fire-breathing degenerates are going to forgive him of something like that since they all do that anyway, don't they?

He's probably a Democrat, too.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: sphinx on January 11, 2003, 02:18:31 PM
macguffin: the space guy was actually cj's stupid friend who posted stupid comments about what an stupid person cj was.  this was shortly before he left, anyway
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: MacGuffin on January 11, 2003, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: XixaxYeah, but all of us here in the Bible Belt know that everyone in Hollywood is going to hell anyway, so naturally those hellfire-smoke-smelling fire-breathing degenerates are going to forgive him of something like that since they all do that anyway, don't they?

If you're associated with Paul "Pee Wee Herman" Rubens you do.  :P

Quote from: sphinxmacguffin: the space guy was actually cj's stupid friend who posted stupid comments about what an stupid person cj was.  this was shortly before he left, anyway

So....what you're saying is that there won't be a "Land Before Time" meets "Apollo 13" project in PTA's future?
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: RegularKarate on January 11, 2003, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin

Also in 1988, he confessed to five felony counts of sexual relations with a twelve year old boy who he videotaped in sexual situations. He was then convicted as a child molester.

Then in 1995 Victor wrote and directed "Powder" (which Disney financed, by the way)

Thank you,
you know how many people I've tried to tell this to and they won't believe me?
"they'd never let someone like that work again".
but it DID happen.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: life_boy on January 11, 2003, 06:27:46 PM
If PTA ever does 'fall from grace' I hope he doesn't come back to make shitty horror films.
Title: Shitty Horror Films
Post by: Tiff on January 12, 2003, 05:48:27 AM
QuoteIf PTA ever does 'fall from grace' I hope he doesn't come back to make shitty horror films.

That's when you know you're heading for porn...on videotape.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: aclockworkjj on January 12, 2003, 04:34:35 PM
It will be interesting to see what PTA has in store for us...I think all of his movies have differed so greatly that it's hard to tell.  Ummm, maybe a bad example...but look at the movies Ed Burns has written and directed...they are all kinda of the same, about relationships and how people deal with them, generally speaking.  I personally love Ed Burns films.....I am probably in a minority there though.  Anyways, my point is....What constants do you find in a PTA film?  None...except maybe the setting (with the exception of Sydney).  Sure the films are based in the great Valley...but other than that there aren't a lot of distinct themes.  Sure relationships in a general sense, but his films aren't anywhere near the same plane, as say Ed Burns' films are.  And now look at PDL...gotta love it....but how would you place a genre on it....a romantic comedy?  I don't think I could place it anywhere.  It's a comedy, a drama, a good guy/bad guy, or even has some musical feel to it (without the actuall singin'...lol...doesn that even make sense?)  So Now Then.....I think no matter what PTA does he will surprise the shit out of us all, and I am convinced he can take anything and make it great...the guy loves and knows good movies and it shows tremendously in his work.

my 2 cents
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 13, 2003, 11:09:24 AM
Quote from: XixaxYeah, but all of us here in the Bible Belt know that everyone in Hollywood is going to hell anyway, so naturally those hellfire-smoke-smelling fire-breathing degenerates are going to forgive him of something like that since they all do that anyway, don't they?

He's probably a Democrat, too.

Damn straight.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 15, 2003, 04:37:14 AM
Quote from: XixaxHe's probably a Democrat, too.

Awwww hellz no dawg! Dont make me get Tipper Gore on yo gang bangin ass!!!!

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Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: TenseAndSober on January 15, 2003, 09:53:10 PM
Didn't PTA say he'd really like to work with Juliette Binoche.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2003, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: God Damn Im Da ManTipper Gore

Satan.

One of our beloved leaders of censorship.

no, it is not hypocritical for an admin to say that
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Jon on February 12, 2003, 02:45:42 AM
Quote from: tommy_both
Quote from: sphinxactually, PTA films do make tons of money in rentals---magnolia made more than it did in stores than in theatres.  films with more awards tend to be more popular at rental stores.

So let's all pray that PDL will be a HIT in rentals :P I doubt that, well... maybe the few losers - the general BOXOFFICE audience, let me rephrase: 75% of the people - that rent at blockbuster see the name of Adam on the cover and think its a nice one to rent....

I work at Hollywood Video (SO MUCH NICER (PEOPLE-WISE) THAN BLOCKBUSTER) and I can promise you that, on its first week at least, PDL will be out of stock.

The next week everyone (except for...4 or 5 regulars) will complain that I gave them a bum recomendation.

They will then go and watch fucking Master of Disguise or Halloween Ressurection to settle the score. Bastards.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: polkablues on February 13, 2003, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: God Damn Im Da ManTipper Gore

Satan.

One of our beloved leaders of censorship.

no, it is not hypocritical for an admin to say that

Lieberman, too.  I'm hoping he doesn't get the Democrats nomination, because on the off-chance he might win, I just wouldn't be able to deal with the deluge of PG-rated films that would be the end-result.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: RegularKarate on February 13, 2003, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: polkabluesLieberman, too.  I'm hoping he doesn't get the Democrats nomination, because on the off-chance he might win, I just wouldn't be able to deal with the deluge of PG-rated films that would be the end-result.

Yeah... no shit.  I get upset when I hear about his problem with sex in films.  Why is that an issue that's any of his concern?

That's first lady shit.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 13, 2003, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: JonI work at Hollywood Video (SO MUCH NICER (PEOPLE-WISE) THAN BLOCKBUSTER) and I can promise you that, on its first week at least, PDL will be out of stock.

The next week everyone (except for...4 or 5 regulars) will complain that I gave them a bum recomendation.

:lol:   I did the same thing with Magnolia at Blockbuster. I would walk around the store with a "let me recommend a movie to you" face, and people would always ask for recommendations. I figured that even if they hated the movie, it would open their minds a little. One couple was really mad at me for recommending it, cause they started watching it with their kids, and apparently the opening sex scenes didn't go over too well.

I've thought about working at Hollywood... just curious, how corporate are they? When I was at Blockbuster, I could feel them getting more and more corporate, and it hurts... (or mabye I was just starting to notice it). They made me sell DirecTV, and gave me a quota... I hated that... Blockbuster deserves to be boycotted by everyone...
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Xixax on February 13, 2003, 06:42:15 PM
Blockbuster is ultra-evil. My boycott has ben in effect for quite some time. Hail Netflix!
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Cecil on February 13, 2003, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanOne couple was really mad at me for recommending it, cause they started watching it with their kids, and apparently the opening sex scenes didn't go over too well.

youd think theyd be mad because of the violence and swearing. oh no, sex.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Cecil on February 13, 2003, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: XixaxBlockbuster is ultra-evil. My boycott has ben in effect for quite some time.

amen. same here.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Jon on February 13, 2003, 10:28:39 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman:lol:   I did the same thing with Magnolia at Blockbuster. I would walk around the store with a "let me recommend a movie to you" face, and people would always ask for recommendations. I figured that even if they hated the movie, it would open their minds a little. One couple was really mad at me for recommending it, cause they started watching it with their kids, and apparently the opening sex scenes didn't go over too well..

Yeah, I always warn about the cuss words, and that they may hate it, but it's an experience no matter what.

Quote've thought about working at Hollywood... just curious, how corporate are they? When I was at Blockbuster, I could feel them getting more and more corporate, and it hurts... (or mabye I was just starting to notice it). They made me sell DirecTV, and gave me a quota... I hated that... Blockbuster deserves to be boycotted by everyone...

Hollywood is very much less corporate. If Blockbuster is the bully who wants your lunch money, we're the new, smooth guy, from out of town, who lets you pay off later (and we have ALL 5 day rentals) :).

No, really, I don't know about the other stores, but the oldest person at my store is the manager: she is 21. So we're all pretty young minded and are all friends, it's very cool and I always have fun. Join the team!

Heh.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: polkablues on February 14, 2003, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI would walk around the store with a "let me recommend a movie to you" face

Whenever I get that look on my face, people run.  Maybe because it's so close to my "hey, little girl, would you like some candy" face.


Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanOne couple was really mad at me for recommending it, cause they started watching it with their kids, and apparently the opening sex scenes didn't go over too well.

I think if they sit their kids down in front of an R-rated movie, they lose the right to complain about what they see.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: RegularKarate on February 14, 2003, 03:21:22 PM
Little Billy: "RESPECT THE COCK!"
Little Timmy: "TAME THE CUNT!"
Billy: "Respect the COCK!"
Timmy: "TAME THE CUNT!"

Mom comes in and breaks the two fighting children up.

MOM: "Billy, Timmy!  Stop it now, Mommy's trying to drink... ugh... that's the last time I let Blockbuster raise my children"

Mom walks away, Billy turns to Timmy.

Billy: "What's wrong with her?"
Timmy: "I don't know, probably has an ass in her cock"
Title: What next?
Post by: oakmanc234 on February 14, 2003, 08:20:08 PM
I can really see PTA doing a period piece next. He has a thing for doing the opposite to what he just did and the possibility of period piece next seems very likely to me.
Title: Re: What next?
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 14, 2003, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: oakmanc234I can really see PTA doing a period piece next. He has a thing for doing the opposite to what he just did and the possibility of period piece next seems very likely to me.

What exactly do you mean by opposite? I wouldnt say any of his films were opposites to the ones before them.
Title: What's next?
Post by: oakmanc234 on February 14, 2003, 11:20:54 PM
I pretty much based that comment on what PTA said about your first instinct being to go in the other direction. I do consider his films to be very different but executed in the same brilliantly unconventional manner.

e.g. 'Hard Eight'-small-scale, Demme-ish drama.
     'Boogie Nights'-extravagant, Scorcese-ish porn epic.
     'Magnolia'-sprawling, Altman-like drama.
     'Punch-Drunk Love'-Sandler romance/drama/comedy/thriller etc.

      As you can see, there's not much in common.
Title: Re: What's next?
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 15, 2003, 01:20:09 AM
Quote from: oakmanc234I pretty much based that comment on what PTA said about your first instinct being to go in the other direction. I do consider his films to be very different but executed in the same brilliantly unconventional manner.

e.g. 'Hard Eight'-small-scale, Demme-ish drama.
     'Boogie Nights'-extravagant, Scorcese-ish porn epic.
     'Magnolia'-sprawling, Altman-like drama.
     'Punch-Drunk Love'-Sandler romance/drama/comedy/thriller etc.

      As you can see, there's not much in common.

Ok thanks, for a moment there I thought there were more to the movies than the directors who inspired them.  :roll:
Title: So what now?
Post by: oakmanc234 on February 15, 2003, 03:50:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, PTA is his own director, in my opinion he's the most talented dude in the industry. I was just summarising the flicks the quickest way possible. No offense to you or PTA. Hell, PTA could do a film on fly spray and i'd still love it.
Title: Re: So what now?
Post by: Xixax on February 15, 2003, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: oakmanc234Don't get me wrong, PTA is his own director, in my opinion he's the most talented dude in the industry. I was just summarising the flicks the quickest way possible. No offense to you or PTA. Hell, PTA could do a film on fly spray and i'd still love it.
That's how I feel about PTA's work. While I thought PDL was just so-so as movies go, the fact that it was Paul makes me love it regardless. Bring on the fly spray!
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 15, 2003, 06:17:25 PM
Yeah, but saying that the movies are opposite or dont have much in common is a little crude. Not that his movies are all the same, but they seem to sway towards a more evolutionary path.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Link on February 15, 2003, 11:07:24 PM
PTA has mentioned wanting to work with Juliette Binoche, Daniel Day Lewis (now more of a hot item probably, cuz of G.O.N.Y.), Robert De Niro, and of course, Sean Penn (whom he intended for Punch-Drunk Love).  It'd be interesting to see who he can get.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Pubrick on February 15, 2003, 11:12:54 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceYeah, but saying that the movies are opposite or dont have much in common is a little crude. Not that his movies are all the same, but they seem to sway towards a more evolutionary path.

why can't u be like this more often? ur making sense for christ's sake. good work kiddo.

now go screw up.
Title: Re: So What Now Then?
Post by: fulty on March 01, 2003, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dThe million dollar question; What next for PTA?

So, I was channel surfing and landed in mid-commercial.  
It was something about a guy who had saved his company a million dollars a year by putting one less olive in each jar.  
But it was done in the same style and narration as Magnolia..!!  
What's up with that..??
Title: Re: So What Now Then?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 01, 2003, 07:09:09 PM
Quote from: fulty
Quote from: cbrad4dThe million dollar question; What next for PTA?

So, I was channel surfing and landed in mid-commercial.  
It was something about a guy who had saved his company a million dollars a year by putting one less olive in each jar.  
But it was done in the same style and narration as Magnolia..!!  
What's up with that..??

um... because.... sex sells?
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: soixante on March 04, 2003, 11:29:44 PM
What next for PTA?

A few ideas --

A film version of Bob Fosse's Pippin, with Fosse's original choreography restored.

A Western with Clint Eastwood, written by Quentin Tarantino (I can dream, can't I?)

A Shakespeare adaptation (it worked wonders for Orson Welles).
Title: PTA
Post by: UglyApe on March 05, 2003, 12:31:14 AM
I know PTA has expressed interest in doing a musical.   Judging by his "Paper Bag" Fiona Apple video, his musical would be the greatest damn musical ever.   I cream my pants at the thought of it.   Damn, now I need new pants.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: ©brad on March 20, 2003, 05:01:20 AM
From Greg's site:
A site reader met Michael Penn at the South by Southwest Festival & asked him what PTA is up to. Michael said that Paul is working on a new project & that he is in talks with him about doing the music!

sweet. glad to see the man is working a little faster and we won't have to wait another 2-3 years for another pta movie.

what about jon brion? on a side note, no one ever really talks about brion's score in Magnolia b/c of all the Aimee Mann music and everything, but I thought it was amazing, esp. like the part when Tom Cruise is on the cell phone with Janet.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: New Feeling on March 20, 2003, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dFrom Greg's site:
sweet. glad to see the man is working a little faster and we won't have to wait another 2-3 years for another pta movie.

I don't think this is too much to get excited about.  After all, we were hearing that Paul was going to work with Adam Sandler right after Magnolia was released and it still took 3 years for us to see the finished product.

And yeah, Magnolia has the best score ever.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: bonanzataz on March 20, 2003, 07:24:06 PM
Even before I liked Magnolia, I thought that the score was awesome. It ties everything together nicely and is just so big and cinematic.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 20, 2003, 09:05:17 PM
I hope Paul gets started working on something within the next 6 months to a year. Id just like to know that he is working, and there is for sure something to look forward to even if the movie isnt released till 2005. Plus its great to speculate and get all those tidbits.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 21, 2003, 09:46:06 AM
I want the "western" he promised. Right now.

and not like a cheap Back to the Future III western...
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Derek on October 10, 2004, 02:31:07 PM
Old thread, and many like it, I know.

Here's my speculation: A political story along the lines of All The President's Men. Whatever it is, it will star Sean Penn this time.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: ono on October 10, 2004, 03:38:43 PM
That's probably closer to truth than speculation considering the information about it that has been leaked.  http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=6562  This thread is ancient though.
Title: So What Now Then?
Post by: Pozer on October 10, 2004, 10:28:04 PM
Lets bring it back for the cause.
Wait a minute, what?