Southland Tales

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Kal

I'm a fan of this guy and I'm still excited about this movie... but if he would finally have a finished version of this fucking film after 4 years of working on it, maybe he wouldnt need to clarify this bullshit and set the record straight... just show us the damn thing so we can decide if are a cool guy or you were just lucky to pull donnie darko out of your ass


Pozer


MacGuffin

Richard Kelly resurrects 'Southland'
'Donnie Darko' director knows from experience that a film can overcome a poor showing at Cannes.
Source: Los Angeles Times

TORONTO -- It was an offer he couldn't refuse. The Cannes Film Festival invited writer-director Richard Kelly to screen his second feature as part of its prestigious competition section. So Kelly took his "Southland Tales" to France in 2006, even though there was work still to be done on it.

The response? Disastrous. A "career killer," according to more than one industry watcher. Variety's review called it "pretentious, overreaching and fatally unfocused." The Village Voice said it was "a high-voltage farrago of unsynopsizable plots and counterplots" -- and that was one of the kind notices.

"Even with all that happened, I don't regret it," Kelly said recently of the experience. "Now that all the dust has settled, the movie is actually better off because of it. Honestly, it is. The hope is we can still somehow recover and the movie can find an audience."

Kelly will soon find out. He and his team, including producing partner Sean McKittrick, have been hard at work on revising the film nearly nonstop since that awful summer. "Southland Tales," which will be released Nov. 9, has been trimmed by approximately 20 minutes since Cannes and now has about 600 visual-effects shots, of which at least 100 are completely new.

"One of the biggest knocks on the movie was that it was too long," Kelly said. "I knew it was too long. But it's like a really elaborate puzzle. Like Jenga, you pull out enough blocks and it's still structurally sound; you pull out too many and it starts to collapse."

The now 2-hour, 24-minute story is purposefully byzantine for even the most attentive of viewers. Characters have multiple names and identities, plot strands ebb, flow and intersect. Add to that Kelly's casting choices -- drawing together such pop figureheads as Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Justin Timberlake and Mandy Moore into a kaleidoscopic swirl -- and the experience of simply taking it all in, and it's pretty overwhelming.

The film is broken into three chapters, IV, V and VI. The first three chapters came out as graphic novels after Cannes, and Kelly admits they were the key, even for himself, for getting a handle on what was happening to the characters on screen.

"I couldn't get to a place, emotionally, as an artist, where I really felt I could finish this movie properly until I had the books done," he said. "I was a nervous wreck and I was depressed. I tried to do too much, and I failed. I felt I wasn't going to fulfill this movie, how great I had it in my mind. But once I finished the books, a big monkey was lifted off my back. I could really figure out how to solve the puzzle of the film. When we went to Cannes I hadn't finished with the books yet."

To that end, Kelly seriously revamped the first reel of the movie to include background information from the graphic novels and give the audience more of a running start on the film's densely packed narrative. Following the same opening scene, a Texas house party on July 4, 2005, that ends with mushroom clouds in the distance, the film now shifts into a dizzying animated sequence, referred to as the Doomsday Scenario Interface, which draws imagery from the graphic novels. Torrents of information are quickly revealed regarding the three years that follow, in which multiple wars are waged, an intense culture of government surveillance is created, alternative fuel sources are explored and Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president on a ticket with Joe Lieberman. The world seems truly off its axis.

Kelly also re-recorded Timberlake's voice-over narration that runs throughout the film. Where the voice-over on the Cannes cut was more biting and sardonic, Kelly instructed Timberlake to watch "Apocalypse Now," so the voice-over now has the flat, hollowed-out lack of affect of Martin Sheen.

In trying to downplay their concerns over what might be called "the Cannes effect," McKittrick and Kelly are quick to point out that Kelly's first feature, "Donnie Darko," premiered at the Sundance Film Festival to similarly mixed results. After that film's initially disappointing theatrical release in fall of 2001, it went on to build an international cult following. Kelly and McKittrick are in no small part depending on that fan base, which Kelly has nurtured in the interim with regular MySpace posts, to turn out for "Southland Tales," regardless of what may have happened at Cannes.

"At the heart of it, our audience doesn't care," McKittrick said. "They panned us just as hard on 'Darko,' and our core audience knows that. And I think the general public isn't going to pay attention too much to Cannes reviews; that's more of an industry thing. I think it can actually fuel a fire, to be honest with you. It can get people excited to see it and make seeing it more rebellious in a way."

"The movie was made primarily for a younger audience," Kelly added, "people who watch 'South Park,' read the Onion, watch 'The Daily Show,' 'The Simpsons,' read graphic novels. And we were taking it to the toughest audience in the world, much older and kind of snobbier. But it was an honor to be there, to be included, so with the honor you take the punches to the face."

The rebooting of "Southland Tales" has given Kelly a clear-eyed perspective on what happened at Cannes and on himself as a filmmaker. The elongated journey to theaters now seems oddly appropriate for a film of such consciously unwieldy ambition and scope.

Finishing a recent late breakfast, Kelly stares at a half-eaten plate of food and absent-mindedly notes, "I always order more than I can eat." Immediately realizing the tantalizingly obvious metaphor, he hastens to add, "But I will finish it if you just give me time. I swear."
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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pumba

trailer's coming out this week.


modage

from the trailer page...

Genres: Musical/Performing Arts, Science Fiction/Fantasy and Thriller
Running Time: 2 hrs. 41 min.


aka. FLOP.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

Kal

I thought it was 2:24... not much difference... but if the movie is bad those 15 minutes can be an eternity... and be bad for ticket sales. 

This will get a lame limited release for sure and tank.

Trailer is not very good... I just saw it twice... the first time I was very excited and the second one I realized this will suck... too bad. It will join the Matrix sequels as one of the films I looked forward the most and disappointed me.


picolas

i cling to the hope that it's mostly awkward editing even though it probably isn't.. at the very least it will be a uniquely bad movie. maybe.

i didn't realize The Rock was so central :yabbse-sad:

grand theft sparrow

Since the Cannes reviews, I've been hoping for it to be at least an admirable misfire, if it really was that bad.  Based on Buffy's line about the future and how she delivered it, either the trailer didn't accurately capture the satirical tone Richard Kelly gave the movie, or it accurately captured that Kelly didn't quite get the satirical tone he wanted for the movie, so who knows?  Whatever.  I just want to see it finally.  When you clear away the gushing love and excessive hatred towards Darko, it's a decent movie.  But I just hope he's got more up his sleeve than just these sci-fi hybrids because I'm getting a Shyamalan vibe from him.

matt35mm

Oh I definitely think that this or any trailer can't be counted on to give you an accurate sense of the movie.  Not that I know what the sense of this movie is, but I realized based on the info that we do have that it's too complicated and bizarre to sell to people in any clear way.

The strategy seems to be (and I wouldn't know how to do it any better) to get the cool shots and hip/funny lines into the trailer, and make sure that people know that famous people are in it.  And I think that that's ALL we're going to get until the movie comes out.

I didn't really care for Donnie Darko (definitely don't have the excessive hatred that Sparrow mentioned, though) or this trailer, but I will reserve my judgment for if and when I see this movie.

ElPandaRoyal

Fuck all this, the trailer was a pants-creamer and I'll stand by that. Maybe the movie will suck, maybe it's the worst thing since a muffin with a small amount of blueberries in it, but I come on record by saying that I'm really looking forward to watch this. Some of the images were great, and I actually thought it has the potential to be both funny and actually have something to say. Plus I didn't know Miranda Richardson was in it (fuck YEAH!).

If this ends up sucking, I'll get so mad...  :(
Si

bonanzataz

The corpses all hang headless and limp bodies with no surprises and the blood drains down like devil's rain we'll bathe tonight I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls Demon I am and face I peel to see your skin turned inside out, 'cause gotta have you on my wall gotta have you on my wall, 'cause I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls collect the heads of little girls and put 'em on my wall hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls

mogwai

the trailer didn't do anything for me. this looks like a michael bay movie on lsd.

brockly

Quote from: mogwai on September 21, 2007, 02:56:20 AM
this looks like a michael bay movie on lsd.

come on, it wasnt that bad. at least the first 40 seconds before the rock starts talking are good. i liked donnie darko, despite its ridiculous overpraise, so im looking forward to this. it looks like it has some interesting ideas/concepts. still, im hoping this sinks because of the casting, which is completely inexcusable no matter what logistics are behind it.

B.C. Long

Why is like half the cast of SNL in this flick? And didn't they use "This is the way the worlds ends" tagline for Donnie Darko too? I don't think I've ever seen The Rock look so awkward. It's almost as if he doesn't know what to do.