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Film Discussion => The Small Screen => Topic started by: MacGuffin on February 20, 2005, 03:07:10 PM

Poll
Question: What do you think of reality programming?
Option 1: I'm a reality show junkie. votes: 5
Option 2: I'll watch some shows. votes: 4
Option 3: I'm a closet watcher. votes: 0
Option 4: They aren't real. votes: 5
Option 5: Worst thing to happen to television. votes: 22
Title: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on February 20, 2005, 03:07:10 PM
Personally, I'll watch the game-show type programs, like Survivor or Apprentice, and have no interest in the dating shows like Bachelor or life-changing shows like Extreme Makeover or The Swan.

But I do think The Amazing Race is hands down the best reality show of the bunch and can't wait for the new race next week. I get so caught in the suspense of 'will they make it to the check-point?' especially if it's a team I'm rooting for. Of the way the game can have the players who came in last one week, be first the next week. Of hating one team, but don't want them to lose because it makes for some great conflict among the other players. If you haven't seen it, check it out for an episode or two. You might get hooked.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Ghostboy on February 20, 2005, 03:13:05 PM
I think I've seen a few minutes of the first season of Survivor and that's it. Still, I think it's safe to say that reality TV is the worst thing to happen to television - not that television has much going for it anyway, as far as I'm concerned (I still watch The Simpsons and used to watch Buffy, but that's about it, and I plan to get into some of the HBO programming via DVD someday, when I have the time). I see the ads for the shows or read about them in Entertainment Weekly, and it just sort of disgusts me. I'm sure there are some quality programs, like the ones Mac mentioned, but overall I can't be troubled to get caught up in them when there are books to be read, movies to be seen, walks to be taken, etc.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: ono on February 20, 2005, 03:15:07 PM
I watched the first season of Survivor and some of the second and lost interest.  Interesting idea, but a lot of it is fake, restaged, whatever.  The Apprentice, when it first came along was pretty good.  I hated the first few episodes, women playing the sex card and whatnot.  Portrayal of reality?  I don't know.  I watch The Apprentice on and off now, but I care a lot less.  The novelty has died off.

As for American Idol, I watch it on occasion.  Most people here are real music snobs, so they frown on that sort of thing.  I don't.  There is some amazing vocal talent on that show.  Some of it is a little too "poppy" for my taste, but there really is no denying or begrudging ability when it is showcased, and on those rare occasions, that's when I enjoy it most.

I worked as a PA on an episode of Extreme Makeover.  Very interesting, fun, grueling work.  It's so silly, though, how fake everything is.  Got to sit through them doing interviews with family, reveals, they do the applause thing like four times to get all the coverage they need.  Haha.  I do think it's the worst thing to happen to TV in general.  It gives the short end of the stick to more creative shows that didn't get a fair shake (Wonderfalls, most recently).  But there are a few shows worth watching on occasion.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on February 20, 2005, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: ono mo cuishleThe Apprentice, when it first came along was pretty good.  I hated the first few episodes, women playing the sex card and whatnot.  Portrayal of reality?  I don't know.  I watch The Apprentice on and off now, but I care a lot less.  The novelty has died off.

I think this season of pitting the street smart people (those with high school diplomas) against the book smarts (those with college degrees) has reinvigorated the show a bit. The episode where they had to make a commercial for Dove soap where one team made a porn suggestive one (book) and the other made an ad where the body soap was used on the face (street) that had the clients disgusted was hilarious.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Ravi on February 20, 2005, 03:54:26 PM
That was the one of the few episodes of The Apprentice I've seen, and it was hilarious.  I don't like that show because it does not appear to be much like the real business world.  Everyone's always yelling at each other and nobody has ever heard of diplomacy.

I watch the first few episodes of American Idol to see all the bad singers and the cheery people who end up cursing out the judges because they were rejected.  That Leroy Wills character was something, and it was really funny to see the guy in the rock band piss off his bandmates because he was leaving to try out for American Idol.  The guy who was Toni Braxton's cousin or something was hilariously bad.

I used to watch Shipmates because my friend and I would go to his house for lunch in high school and there was nothing else on at the time.  Watching Chris Hardwick try to be funny is oddly intriguing.

Anyone seen Eye for an Eye?  It is the best judge show ever.

QuoteI'm sure there are some quality programs, like the ones Mac mentioned, but overall I can't be troubled to get caught up in them when there are books to be read, movies to be seen, walks to be taken, etc.

I hardly watch TV these days, so I can't be bothered to watch Wife Swap during those times that I do.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Kal on February 20, 2005, 04:37:39 PM
I watch the Apprentice but this season sucks big time. Yes, the concept of Book Smarts against Street Smarts is much better than the stupid Men-against-Women. But the show is not working well because these candidates are really stupid and its depressing to believe that these are the best people they could find from over 2 million candidates.

Also, I think Donald Trump is an excellent TV character. He is unique. Its funny to watch him and to listen to him, and interesting - wether you like him or not. But now the idea of having a Apprentice with Martha Stewart just makes me sick!
Title: Reality TV
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on February 20, 2005, 05:30:25 PM
I used to watch the EcoChallenge[?] when it came on. That was pretty interesting all the way around.
I know I should probably catch the Amazing Race, too, but I never have.
I've only watched one complete episode of the Real World, and that was San Diego (which is German for "Whale's Vagina").

Anyone catch "The Soup"?
It's a rehash of Talk Soup (which was fucking great when John Henson was hosting) except now it's focused on Reality TV. I think the host (who is featured in BK's "The Office" commercials) is coming into his own on the show and holds my attention more than he used to.
I usually have my cable unplugged since I find the majority of television to be a really bad distraction (which is another great show).
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Pubrick on February 20, 2005, 09:51:55 PM
realtiy shows i hav obsessed over:
The Real World - first 8 seasons, especially the London one.
Road Rules - first 5 seasons. mtv was so much better those days, where not all the contenstants were "gorgeous".
Joe Shmoe - he seemed harmless enuff
Big Brother - australian, first 3 seasons.
America's Next Top Model - first 2 seasons.
Survivor - only the rupert season. this crap gets boring real fast.

Currently obsessing over:
the apprentice
the amazing race
forever eden

randomly enjoyed a few episodes of:
queer eye
osbournes
australian idol
Title: Reality TV
Post by: ©brad on February 21, 2005, 04:28:32 PM
reality tv ain't going nowhere, which sucks for anyone with a good script trying to get a show on the air. reality tv is cheap u see, way cheaper than having to pay for a show like west wing or ER. you're not paying for professional actors or for an expensive writing staff. it's like this--

reality tv--- cheap
dramatic/comedy tv--- expensive
reality tv--- high ratings
reality tv--- high advertising revenue
reality tv--- better return on investment
reality tv--- will never stop

i'm preaching to the quior here, i know.

i must say, embarassingly, that i caught a couple of extreme home makeover episodes and i really liked it (save that overly caffeinated, annoying ass host, whatever the hell his name is. he rivals carrot top for the most irritating person on the fucking planet). i almost lost it when they built that house and office for that black woman who helps disabled folk.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Ravi on February 21, 2005, 04:38:15 PM
The problem with reality shows is that they can't be syndicated to TV stations like sitcoms or dramas.  And they probably will not be big sellers on DVD, since nobody wants to watch a season of Survivor twice.  In the long run the studios don't keep earning revenue from Survivor the way they do from Friends or Seinfeld.  Heck, I Love Lucy and The Andy Griffith Show are still making money for whoever owns the rights.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Myxo on February 21, 2005, 06:57:08 PM
Survivor is hit and miss for me..

One season the cast is great and it's very entertaining. The next season it could be crap.

I watch American Idol with my mom on Tuesday nights. It gets alot more boring though after the initial auditions. I swear, the fucking retards are the best. It's a load of crap after that.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: picolas on February 21, 2005, 08:13:20 PM
Quote from: cbradyou're not paying for professional actors or for an expensive writing staff.
yet sometimes the best performances/dialogue/stories come out of actual people.

actually, one of my favourite things about reality tv is the performances.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: ©brad on February 21, 2005, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: picolas
Quote from: cbradyou're not paying for professional actors or for an expensive writing staff.
yet sometimes the best performances/dialogue/stories come out of actual people.

actually, one of my favourite things about reality tv is the performances.

no question. and when that happens, it's win win for the producers b/c it's cheaper.  :-D

i just wish they came up with another name besides 'reality tv.' taking a bunch of cute, spoiled, whiny 20-somethings and putting them in a 10 million dollar beach house and calling it 'the real world' is quite the misconception.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Myxo on February 21, 2005, 10:29:43 PM
It's all about Chapelle Show..

Real World..

:lol:
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Stefen on March 20, 2005, 01:02:11 AM
I dont watch any tv except basketball, and even then I have it on mute while I watch a movie.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Pubrick on March 20, 2005, 01:21:01 AM
i just saw Surviving Nugent: The Ted Commandments. i guess it could be called the second season, tho technically it isn't a season long. i think it's the best reality show experience i've had since the amazing race.

maybe it was the shortness of it all that got me hooked, i saw the whole series in a couple of hours, but it's easily pound for pound the most entertaining reality show i've seen in a while. the asshole was extremely hatable, the hot chicks were quite to my liking, there were plenty of random developments, and the characters were well defined. best of all, the right ppl won.

the only thing that sucked was that there were too few episodes.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Cecil on March 23, 2005, 07:23:04 PM
someone has to help me out: i was watching my big fat obnoxious boss and missed the last episodes, so i have no idea who the "real" boss is. help me obi-wan kenobi, youre my only hope
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Gamblour. on March 23, 2005, 08:23:04 PM
P, did you catch the first season of Surviving Nugent? It was an amazing experience. I felt like people actually grew and learned on that show. Nugent is a badass.

Cecil, I read on AICN long ago that the boss was a monkey.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Cecil on March 23, 2005, 09:24:20 PM
hahahahhahahahahahhhhh
Title: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on April 05, 2005, 04:28:21 PM
Britney Spears and new hubby to use reality TV to hit back at tabloids

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Pop princess Britney Spears and husband Kevin Federline will make a reality television show in a bid to counter tabloid press gossip about them, Daily Variety said.

The pair, who parried in September after a five-month whirlwind romance, have signed up to make the fly-on-the-wall show for the American UPN cable network as Spears' moves to settle a score with the media.

The show, which is expected to premiere later this year, will document the story of the fabled courtship of megastar Spears and unknown back-up dancer Federline, their engagement and secret wedding.

"From the day that Kevin and I met, there have been constant rumors and inaccurate speculation about our lives together," Spears was quoted as saying by the entertainment industry bible, Variety.

"I feel that last year the tabloids ran my life and I am really excited about showing my fans what really happened rather than all the stories, which have been misconstrued by journalists in the past.

As I mentioned before, I am now going to be expressing my personal life through art," said the blonde bombshell who stunned her fans and the world when she secretly married Federline six months ago.

The show, six episodes of which have been ordered, will primarily use video footage taken by Spears, 23, and Federline, 27, which will be complemented with additional camera work and commentaries.

UPN Entertainment president Dawn Ostroff said the series would give the couple the chance to "tell their love story their way."

The couple will host the series, walking viewers through the story of their relationship, Ostroff said. "They'll tell viewers, 'This is when we first met' or 'This is when we started dating,'" the executive said.

In the face of intense rivalry by networks to make the show, UPN teamed up with one of its sister companies, MTV Music Group Channels, to fund and produce the series, which has not yet been given a title.

"The competition for the show was pretty heated, and we were able to reach out to MTV Networks and put together a deal," Ostroff said of the five half-hour episodes and a one-hour show showing the couple's wedding.

The singer's relationship with father-of-two Federline caused a firestorm of media speculation that infuriated Spears, including reports that their wedding ceremony was a sham.

On Tuesday, Spears posted a defiant message to journalists who write what she considers to be inaccurate stories about her on her website.

"I'm really concerned about the people you hire to work at your companies," she wrote, adding that she hoped her message would cause the tabloids and magazines do some soul-searching.

"Your employees are a reflection of your magazine. Do you -- Us Weekly, In Touch, Star and other desperate magazines -- want employees who are honest, or those who are liars? It seems to me that you'd prefer the latter," she wrote.

Spears said that journalists who write false or malicious articles about her and her husband were either frustrated because they are "50 pounds overweight," because their children are acting up or because their partners are cheating on them.

"Until you face what is going on in your life, I guess you'll remain a false tabloid," the angry pop diva said.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Raikus on April 05, 2005, 04:29:58 PM
UPN, huh? Finally something to fill the void left by "The Mullets" on White Trash Wednesdays.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Kal on April 05, 2005, 06:47:43 PM
I dont know whats the point of making this... nobody will be interested... but at least they have a chance if they put it on one of the big four networks, or MTV... with UPN they have nothing!

Besides, by the time the show airs they will probably be divorced
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Pwaybloe on April 07, 2005, 08:26:22 AM
Federline, yo.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Stefen on April 07, 2005, 11:24:02 AM
haha pwaybloe. federline is such a chump, dude always tries to dress all street and hip with his vintage atari shirts and the sporatic stubble on his face. he had an awful nosejob too. that doc really butchered his schnoz. you see that alot more often.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 07, 2005, 04:07:57 PM
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Title: Reality TV
Post by: Stefen on April 08, 2005, 12:03:03 AM
hahah man, i hate that guy. I would seriously break his face if i saw him, he sucks. i'd slam his nose into my knee, then sue him. plus, his wifes got pimples.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2005, 11:26:34 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinBritney Spears and new hubby to use reality TV to hit back at tabloids

It's like a massive train wreck (although a crash would be more exciting to watch). It's hard to look away yet I know I should move along and I know I'll never have this time back.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Ravi on May 18, 2005, 12:18:47 PM
Its on the UPN, how popular could it be?
Title: Reality TV
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 18, 2005, 04:56:46 PM
Reality TV is a shitty fad that just won't die.  A lot of people claim it's just a guilty pleasure, or have some excuse for watching it, but it's mindless bullshit where people over dramatize situations, or in the case of game shows, brings out the sadist in every viewer.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2005, 09:23:39 PM
i guess it comes down to whether u like The Running Man or not..

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Title: Reality TV
Post by: Myxo on September 08, 2005, 05:30:32 PM
'Survivor' Winner Indicted on Tax Charges

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M.L. JOHNSON, Associated PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Richard Hatch, who won $1 million on the first season of the reality show "Survivor," was indicted Thursday for failing to pay taxes on his winnings from the CBS show.

Hatch faces 10 charges, including tax evasion, filing a false tax return, wire fraud, bank fraud and mail fraud. U.S. Attorney Robert Clark Corrente said Hatch, 44, did not pay taxes on his "Survivor" prize, income from a radio show and rental income. The Newport resident also allegedly used donations to his charity, Horizon Bound, to cover personal expenses.

Prosecutors charged Hatch with two counts of tax evasion in January. He agreed to plead guilty, but backed out of the deal in March, saying he thought CBS was responsible for paying the taxes on his prize. CBS has said Hatch was well aware of his obligations to pay taxes on the money.

On Thursday, Hatch was on a plane headed for Houston to help hurricane victims at the Astrodome and could not be reached for comment, said Rod Mitchell, a spokesman for Hatch's lawyer, Michael Minns.

The grand jury, which received the case after the plea deal fell apart, indicted Hatch for filing false 2000 and 2001 tax returns, which omitted his income from the reality show, $327,000 he was paid to co-host "The Wilde Show" on a Boston radio station and $28,000 in rent on a property he owns in Newport.

The indictment said Hatch had two accountants prepare tax returns that included his "Survivor" winnings but did not file them when he learned he would owe hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes. In 2002, he had one of the accountants prepare a second return that did not include his TV show winnings. He filed that one, which called for a $4,500 refund, the indictment said.

Hatch was also accused of misusing $36,500 from a nonprofit camp he set up, Horizon Bound. For example, he allegedly kept for himself a $10,000 donation made in return for his appearance on the NBC game show "Weakest Link." He spent the money from the game show on a construction project at his house, the indictment said.

Hatch faces a maximum of 75 years in prison if found guilty on all charges. He also could face millions of dollars in fines.

On "Survivor," Hatch stood out for being a cunning and ruthless competitor, and spent some of his time in the nude. He won the show's first season in August 2000. He has since appeared on other TV shows, most recently the "Battle of the Network Reality Stars" on Bravo.

Since the TV show, Hatch has weathered a series of legal battles. He was arrested in April 2000 on a charge of abusing his then 9-year-old son. That charge was later dropped. In 2002, Hatch was found innocent of assaulting his ex-boyfriend.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on September 12, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
TV Viewers Speak Out Against Reality Shows

NEW YORK - In the eyes of viewers, reality television is not only a misnamed genre. It's a format wearing out its welcome.

Four out of five Americans say they think too many reality shows are on the air, according to an AP-TV Guide poll. Only 4 percent of respondents said there were not enough.

Few people believe there's much reality in reality TV: a total of 82 percent said the shows are either "totally made up" or "mostly distorted."

"They pick the personality types to fit a role. I don't think it's really real," said Brenda Sobol, a 42-year-old homemaker from Susanville, Calif. "It's kind of bogus. I think they pretty much know what the outcomes are going to be or they wouldn't do the programs."

The poll also found:

_Half of Americans believe there are too many crime shows on television. The longtime staple of TV dramas has proliferated with the success of franchises such as "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" and "Law & Order."

_Of all the new shows introduced last year, "CSI: New York" has the most people looking forward to its return. "Desperate Housewives," twice as popular with women as it is with men, came in second.

_People watch more TV as they get older. The median number of hours that people over 65 say they watch is 14.7 per week. For those 18 to 34 — young people that TV advertisers are desperate to reach — it's nine hours.

Television's new season officially begins next week, a relief to viewers after a lackluster summer. Broadcast networks threw many new reality shows on the air. Between angry chefs,     Tommy Lee's college escapades and a rock band searching for a new singer, the only one to catch on was ABC's "Dancing With the Stars."

Starting primarily with the CBS game "Survivor" and encompassing pop culture favorites like "The Osbournes," "reality" is a TV genre that has grown to rival sitcoms and dramas. It doesn't hurt that most are cheap to produce.

The poll results could be daunting news for     Martha Stewart, who joins Donald Trump with her own edition of "The Apprentice" on NBC next week.

"You can get a reality show about anything," said Michael Russell, a 27-year-old construction worker from Cleveland who admits to getting a charge out of Bravo's "Being     Bobby Brown." "Anyone can do it."

Joseph Passmore, 66, a retired computer systems analyst from Oklahoma City, said he enjoys "Survivor." But there's little real about it, he said.

"I think most of them are fake," he said. "Even `Survivor,' they just show you the parts they want you to see and it's been messed with too much. They have too much — what do you call it? — editorial control."

The saving grace for TV producers is that even a belief these shows are fake or distorted doesn't necessarily mean they won't watch. Sixty-eight percent of viewers said it didn't matter, or only mattered a little, whether the shows were truthful or not.

Viewers may also be having their fill of talk shows. The AP-TV Guide poll found 56 percent of Americans saying there were too many.

And the fact that half of the viewers said there were too many crime shows could be an early warning for TV programmers: The genre's success has only encouraged them to make more and, based on previews, they're getting more gruesome than ever this season.

"It's like they're harping on it," Russell said. "There's so much crime going on around the neighborhood and around the world, it's like they're glorifying it."

He'd like to see more uplifting programs, like ABC's "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition."

The elderly are more likely to say there are too many crime shows, according to the poll. Given the way advertisers seek youth, that's not an audience programmers are likely to listen to that much.

The poll of 1,002 adults was taken Sept. 6-8 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. It was conducted by Ipsos, an international polling firm.
Title: Reality TV
Post by: Ravi on September 13, 2005, 01:20:28 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinSixty-eight percent of viewers said it didn't matter, or only mattered a little, whether the shows were truthful or not.

"Its rotten, but I'll eat it anyways."
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2006, 01:16:21 AM
Porn Stars To Go Legit in Fox Reality Series

Hoping to answer the perennial question, "Can female porn stars really act?", the Fox Reality Channel is planning to cast the actresses from several U.S. porn studios in a theatrical drama to be performed in London's West End. The series, My Bare Lady, will follow the actresses as they undergo acting lessons to the time they appear "before a discerning British audience," according to a Reuters report. "It's a wonderful tale of redemption," David Lyle, general manager of Fox Reality, told the wire service "Do they want lines that are a little more challenging than 'Oh, here's the pool guy...'?"
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: squints on May 05, 2006, 03:00:32 AM
David Lyle should be tarred and feathered...and then put to death, by public hanging, his last great reality television extravaganza! on FOX!
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: polkablues on May 05, 2006, 03:01:58 AM
Hey, I'd watch it.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ©brad on May 05, 2006, 08:36:07 AM
Quote from: polkablues on May 05, 2006, 03:01:58 AM
Hey, I'd watch it.

as would i.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Ravi on May 05, 2006, 12:59:06 PM
I'd rather watch porn.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: squints on May 05, 2006, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: Ravi on May 05, 2006, 12:59:06 PM
I'd rather watch porn.

Quote from: ©brad on May 05, 2006, 08:36:07 AM
as would i.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on May 06, 2006, 11:06:18 AM
Spider-Man Creator Seeks New Superhero

The creator of Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk is on the hunt for a new superhero, and he plans to find it on reality TV.

Marvel Comics legend Stan Lee said Friday that his new reality show "Who Wants to be a Superhero?" breaks new ground.

"I've never lived in a world of reality," quipped the 83-year-old writer.

Eleven wannabe superheros whittled down from 200 are set to compete in the show, which is scheduled to premiere July 26 on the Sci-Fi channel. The winning superhero will be the star of a new comic book created by Lee.

The reported catch-phrase for those who don't make the cut? "Turn in your spandex!"
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ©brad on May 07, 2006, 12:18:31 PM
comic book writer's block.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on August 24, 2006, 01:29:21 AM
TV reality hit 'Survivor' to play race card

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Hit US reality show "Survivor" will divide contestants by race in its next round, in a daring move the show hopes will generate controversy and big audiences, the television network CBS said.

For its 13th season, the show, the granddaddy of US reality TV, will divide 20 "castaways" into white, black, Asian and Hispanic "tribes" who will battle for supremacy on an isolated part of the Pacific Ocean's Cook Islands.

Where originally the show set teams evenly balanced by age, sex and ethnicity, the ethnic divide should spice up the competition, series host Jeff Probst said Wednesday, according to the CBS website.

Probst dismissed suggestions that the show was going too far by focusing attention on the hyper-sensitive racial divide.

"I found it to be one of the freshest ideas we've had going back to the beginning of this show in season one," he said.

The alignment of the groups along racial lines "is guaranteed to be a talking point," he said.

"Survivor" typically maroons a diverse group of people on a remote island and puts them through competitions as groups and individuals to eliminate one person each week until eventually one final "survivor" is chosen, winning a million dollars.

The trick is that the competitors themselves decide by vote each week who is ejected, often forcing ostensible allies to stab one another in the back to survive.

And the expelled people return at the end to choose the final winner.

Probst conceded that the race-based move could appear like a "stunt", but said it was hardly unusual for everything-goes reality television.

"The idea for this actually came from the criticism that 'Survivor' was not ethnically diverse enough," he said.

"So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creativity for the show. I think it fits in perfectly with what 'Survivor' does -- it is a social experiment."

He said he assumed that the show's audience will divide along ethnic lines for the groups they support.

"I think it's very natural to assume that certain groups are going to have audience members rooting for them simply because they share ethnicity. At the end of the day, I think it will come down to what it always comes down to: who do I like?"

Probst was asked what the contestants themselves thought when they heard the plan.

One, named Yuhl, "was concerned we were going to turn this into something that would show stereotypes and reinforce them," he said.

But another, Rebecca, only saw it as an insignificant basis for competing for the ultimate prize.

"Ultimately, to win this game, you're voting people out that are then on the jury that have to come back and vote for you. So, the person who wins is actually going to do the best job of merging with all different ethnicities."
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Pubrick on August 24, 2006, 03:21:34 AM
polly don't like this cracker.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: polkablues on August 24, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
The season will be called "Survivor: Paul Haggis' Brain".

The upside is, this should put an end to their time-honored tradition of casting one black dude whose lack of wilderness skills and/or work ethic allows White America to sit comfortably in front of their televisions, laughing at the dark man's zany antics.  Plus, Asians!  That'll be new and fun...
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on August 24, 2006, 11:29:08 PM
NYC officials want new 'Survivor' pulled

NEW YORK - As CBS prepares to launch a new season of the hit reality show "Survivor," this time featuring teams divided by race, enraged city officials are saying it promotes divisiveness and are calling for the network to reconsider.

"The idea of having a battle of the races is preposterous," City Councilman John Liu said Thursday. "How could anybody be so desperate for ratings?"

For the first portion of the 13th season of "Survivor," which premieres Sept. 14, the contestants competing for the $1 million prize while stranded on the Cook Islands in the South Pacific will be divided into four teams — blacks, Asians, Latinos and whites.

Liu, who is Asian-American, said he was launching a campaign urging CBS to pull the show because it could encourage racial division and promote negative typecasts. He and a coalition of officials, including the council's black, Latino and Asian caucus, planned to rally at City Hall on Friday.

In a statement, CBS Entertainment, which is part of New York-based CBS Corp., defended the ethnic twist, saying it follows the show's tradition of introducing new creative elements and casting structures that reflect cultural and social issues.

"CBS fully recognizes the controversial nature of this format but has full confidence in the producers and their ability to produce the program in a responsible manner," the statement said. "'Survivor' is a program that is no stranger to controversy and has always answered its critics on the screen."

Last season, the show divided contestants into groups of older men, younger men, older women and younger women.

The show's host, Jeff Probst, said the network was aware this season's race ploy might offend viewers.

"It's very risky because you're bringing up a topic that is a hot button," he told asap, The Associated Press service for younger readers. "There's a history of segregation you can't ignore. It is part of our history.

"For that, it's much safer to say, 'No, let's just stick with things the way they are. Let's don't be the network to rock the boat. Let's not have "Survivor" try something new,'" he said. "But the biases from home can't affect you. This is an equal opportunity game."
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on September 21, 2006, 01:12:04 AM
MTV pairs with Three 6 Mafia for new series

MTV said Wednesday that it has greenlighted a new comedy-reality series featuring Oscar-winning rap artists Three 6 Mafia. Separately, the 24-hour college network mtvU announced its fall slate, which includes a new show featuring director Kevin Smith, with students involved in the entire creative process of the series. Ashton Kutcher is among the executive producers of the Three 6 Mafia series, titled "Adventures in Hollyhood," which follows the rap group as they seek to "establish themselves as Hollywood players." Set in Los Angeles, the show begins as the group and their entourage leave their hometown of Memphis, Tenn., and head to Hollywood and try to make the most of their fame.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Pubrick on September 21, 2006, 07:15:49 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on September 21, 2006, 01:12:04 AM
Set in Los Angeles, the show begins as the group and their entourage leave their hometown of Memphis, Tenn., and head to Hollywood and try to make the most of their fame.
..ending with the premiere of their show on mtv.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: MacGuffin on September 22, 2006, 10:50:18 AM
Pity is hard to find on Mr. T's new show

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Mr. T is here to help. In TV Land's I Pity the Fool (Oct. 11, 10 p.m. ET/PT), the tough guy of Rocky III and The A-Team becomes a motivator with boundless energy, aiding regular folk with problems ranging from procrastination to capitulation.

His goal is to entertain as well as assist. "I can help by getting a message across: 'Hey, don't sit around. Don't give up,' " he says. T, who has survived a bout with cancer, no longer wears his signature gold jewelry. He shed it after seeing the suffering of Hurricane Katrina. But he still has the Mohawk haircut and he won't take any "jibba jabba." At the start of the six-episode series, he immediately throttles viewers: "Hey, Fool. Sit up and pay attention. This ain't no time to nap. ... You know what I do to couch potatoes. I mash them up."

Despite his outward drill-sergeant demeanor, T says different approaches work with different people. He says his personality, as well as particular suggestions, also helps. "I'm just naturally happy," he says. "If I'm feeling good and excited, people around me (are) going to feel good and excited."