Lost (spoilers)

Started by MacGuffin, October 07, 2004, 01:10:26 AM

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grand theft sparrow

Just a thought: this wasn't the episode they had to reshoot because some dumbfuck x-rayed the film at the Honolulu airport, was it?  Because unforeseen time constraints could potentially contribute to the awkwardness of the ending and the episode in general.

Kal

Even if they had to reshoot it, the problem here was the script I think.

The flashback sucked. The rest kept going slowly in the same direction.

I also agree that I was waiting Jack to ask Cindy and the people staring at him what the fuck was happening instead of yelling like an angry gorilla.

I think Mod said it, if we were watching the DVD and one episode after the other, maybe you wouldnt notice what is happening so badly. However, not seeing Locke for over 4 months is fucking stupid. I think that is what ABC/Producers dont realize. It may have been only 3 days in the island, but for the audience its 4 months of not knowing what the fuck happened with Locke, Sayid, etc. We know a lot about the Others and the other island, and we know about Desmond, Charlie, Hurley, whatever...

I think this show is a lot about the characters and for the 3 million people who loved Locke or Ecko this show sucks now and thats why they are not watching it anymore.

Gamblour.

I'm agreeing only slightly with the sentiment about the episode. It was slow. Next to nothing was revealed. However, Jack's Thai girlfriend was very beautiful, but is it really against some custom of theirs to not tattoo people for whatever reason? Seemed a bit unexplained. "We're here to watch." What? You just got to see Jack, the guy from the same flight as you, the same reason you're trapped on the island. Why aren't you spewing answers at each other?!?! That was frustrating.

Overall, my devotion stands. It's still amazing for many reasons, and even this episode had its moments, eg Sawyer lighting Kate's torch, I found it compelling.
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Chest Rockwell

Quote from: kal on February 22, 2007, 02:14:55 PM
Even if they had to reshoot it, the problem here was the script I think.
Yes, but if that was the case then it would be possible that they couldn't reshoot the original script as originally written because of the time/money constraints.

MacGuffin

Lost Revisits Hurley's Past

The upcoming Feb. 28 episode of ABC's Lost will revisit the backstory of Hurley, played by Jorge Garcia, co-executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis told SCI FI Wire. "What's exciting about the next one is it's really in the tradition of some Hurley episodes, like 'Everybody Hates Hugo,'" said Kitsis, who co-wrote the episode with Horowitz. "It's kind of a lighter episode. It's emotional, but what also, I think, people will really be excited about is we're back on the beach. You'll definitely get another piece of Hurley backstory."

"And I would say, make sure you watch 'til the very last second," Horowitz added.

As Lost fans know, Hugo "Hurley" Reyes is a reluctant lottery-winning millionaire who spent time in a mental institution and believes his special lottery winning numbers are cursed.

"Adam and I are lucky enough that this is our third Hurley story," Kitsis said. He and Horowitz also wrote 'Dave' and 'Everybody Hates Hugo.' They say that they've become the Hurley specialists on the show.

"We fell in love with him, and we tell everyone to back off," Horowitz said with a laugh. "We love writing for Hurley. ... It's a challenge coming up with any story, but the truth is, actually, the story this week was something that was conceived a really long time ago. So it was one of those stories we've been waiting to tell."

The writers added that there is more story coming for Locke, the troubled character played by Terry O'Quinn, who was in a wheelchair when he crashed onto the series' mysterious island. Why? "I don't want to give away anything, and I can't give away anything," Horowitz said with a laugh. "I value my job. But I will say that that episode, it's been a long time coming. It will create some new story paths for the audience to be interested in Locke. And we fully hope the question in everyone's head is answered, and they're all very happy with the answer and excited by it. But we're excited, because it has opened up some new things with that character that we hope you guys will like."

Kitsis and Horowitz confirmed that the rest of the season will also explore the backstories of Claire (Emilie de Ravin), Sayid (Naveen Andrews) and two characters new to this season, Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro) and Nikki (Kiele Sanchez). Lost airs at 10 p.m. ET/PT on Wednesdays.
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MacGuffin

'Lost' navigates its way back to the beach crew
By William Keck, USA TODAY

PASADENA, Calif. — Hugs abound on tonight's Lost as Kate and Sawyer return to the beach after a 9-month absence — finally restoring the increasingly gloomy ABC drama to an upbeat ensemble.
For the past year, many of Lost's supporting players have been left stranded by the shore, sifting the sand from their shorts as the series turned a darker focus on new villains and a handful of heroic holdovers.

Fan favorites from the first season such as Charlie, Claire, Sayid, Hurley and Locke have been seen only sporadically. And perhaps not coincidentally, the former top-10 show's ratings have taken a dive. (The last two episodes in the new 10 ET/PT slot have drawn fewer than 13 million viewers each, down from a peak of 23.5 million.)

But Lost loyalists are buzzing in anticipation of tonight's beachside reunion, kicking of a string of flashbacks focusing on Hurley tonight, followed by Sayid, Claire and Locke. Charlie will also have considerably more to do on screen until his flashback airs at a later date in an uninterrupted, repeat-free run continuing all the way through to the two-hour season finale (May 23).

And, says Dominic Monaghan, who plays Charlie, "As the rollercoaster hits the end of the season, they're going to start relying on us quite a bit more."

Over lunch at the Ritz Carlton Hotel last month, Monaghan, Emilie de Ravin (Claire), Naveen Andrews (Sayid) and Jorge Garcia (Hurley) expulsed frustrations and toasted their resuscitated roles.

The most outspoken of the group, Andrews parades about with the bravado of a lion, getting an immediate laugh by noting, "Even though I like getting paid for doing nothing, it is nice occasionally to work."

Monaghan agrees. Having "done a lot of surfing this year," he has come to understand that "With 14 members in a cast who all want to work, as one person works more, thus work is being taken away from another actor. You have to make your peace with that."

But all are careful not to appear ungrateful. After all, on Lost, unhappy or troublesome actors have seemingly found their characters shot in the chest or hurled through the air to untimely deaths.

"Legitimately, the actors are frustrated," acknowledges executive producer Carlton Cuse in a later phone interview. "They're all really good at what they do, and it's difficult when they don't get a chance to do it."

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Flash back with Hurley, Sayid, Claire and Charlie

Hurley - February 28

"This focuses on the relationship with my dad," Garcia says. Cheech Marin pops up in the papa role, and viewers will get their first glance at a fit, young Hurley.

On the island, Hurley will demonstrate his continuing heartache for his murdered love interest, Libby: "You finally get to see a moment," Garcia says.

Expect Charlie and Jin to play significant roles. "Hurley sees it as his responsibility to try to make Charlie move into a different head space," Monaghan says. "So he takes Charlie on a little mission to shake him up."

Claire - March 14

"It goes back to when Claire is 17," de Ravin says. "There's a big jump from where her life is now to where it was then. I play a completely different character because her life is so dramatically different — a lot of very deep emotional issues there that she's still dealing with on the island."

De Ravin sports a black wig for this flashback to Claire's dark teenage phase. "You meet her parents and see what she's been dealing with," de Ravin says.

A flashback last season led viewers to believe that Claire's father and Jack's father might be one and the same. True? "You'll see," she says with a grin.

Sayid - March 7

"We learn about Sayid's time in Paris and find out what happens to a torturer when he's forced to answer for past sins," says executive producer Damon Lindelof. In present time, executive producer Carlton Cuse adds, "Sayid leads an expedition to the mysterious Dharma station known as 'The Flame.' " A cat from Sayid's past makes an island cameo.

All Andrews will offer up is: "There's loads of heavy emotions ... and I'm cooking in it."

Charlie - Date not announced

Producers have chosen to keep secret when Charlie's next flashback will air, which probably has something to do with Desmond's premonition in the Feb. 14 episode that Charlie is destined to die. (Characters' deaths traditionally have occurred at the conclusion of their flashback shows.)

"I have to be careful to not tell you too much," says Monaghan, hinting only that "the Charlie stories are going to be coming toward a bottleneck. The Hurley, Sayid, Claire and Locke stories are all pushing together into a Charlie journey."

And if Charlie does in fact die? "That's fine," he says with a shrug. "This job is going to end for everyone. I've achieved everything that I wanted to do. It's been a fantastic opportunity for me, and it's done exactly what I wanted it to do: distance me from playing a hobbit (in TheLord of the Rings) and have people in America know I can act."
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Kal

Michael Ausiello said that there is a new character to be introduced in April. It's a girl, and apparently she is not a 815 survivor or an Other.

The casting? Marsha Thomason from Las Vegas (HOT!)

SHAFTR

I finally caught up with Lost a few weeks ago and I thought this week's Hurley episode was awful, perhaps the worst Lost episode yet.
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grand theft sparrow

Did you see SEE last week's?

Kal

really dissapointed... :(

Pozer

heroes is the younger brother who eventually outgrew his older brother, lost and is now able to kick his ass. 

modage

Quote from: pozer on March 01, 2007, 07:10:07 PM
heroes is the younger brother who eventually outgrew his older brother, lost and is now able to kick his ass. 
i still have no respect for Heroes because it feels so much like an also ran.  i will try to resist as long as i can, stewing in the hate i have for all the promos.  if Heroes can get to the third season without starting to stumble as Lost has, then i will respect it.  but until THAT DAY...
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

Kal

mod, forget heroes for now... although i know eventually u'll be hooked on it

arent u worried about what is happening with lost?

i mean this was the first episode was in the beach, and everyone was back... except for jack. what the fuck was it? nobody really asked questions in detail of what happened, how are they like, etc...

i love hurley and i would have loved that flashback a year ago... but i saw no point in todays episode... his personal fear and problems are too small for what is happening with the entire show i think...

and the car? the beer? that car was there maybe for 10 years or more... i have trouble starting my car when i leave for a month. when i had the accident with another car and it was parked for 3 months we couldnt start by rolling it down in the garage...

the beer has expiration date... they should show sawyer with fucking diarrea.

i was not mad enough the past episodes, but this one really made me angry. im all week looking forward to what happens next and it feels like they are fucking wasting everybodys time. episodes are short enough and there is too much going on for them to waste time without moving forward.

Gamblour.

Quote from: kal on March 01, 2007, 07:29:01 PM
them to waste time without moving forward.


The ironic thing is that when you watch the episode on their website, that's the slogan Toyota has on top of the video.

I guess I'm just not greedy. I really have faith in the writers that they're taking this show somewhere great. I'm pretty patient, and I do enjoy these episodes where it's just about character. This was much better than past Hurley episodes, like the one with his imaginary friend, that one is pretty bad. This episode was a lot of fun. They don't have to discover a new hatch every week for me to like the show. Time passes slowly on an island.
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Chest Rockwell

I thought ast night's episode was a welcome breather (I bet it'll be more appreciated on DVD) from the gravity of the situation. Every episode does not need to reveal something, nor does it need to advance the main plot; last night was the first episode this season where we just saw some decent interaction between the supporting characters. These kinds of episodes work for what they are, nothing to get angry over.