For those who haven't seen it:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/kill_bill/
Rave on.
Whose decision do you think it was to put all that "The 4th film from Quentin Tarantino" shit at the beginning. Seems a little pompous.
I didn't think too much of the trailer to be honest. If it weren't by Tarantino, I would have thought it was the sequel to Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever :?
I think it's great...and i personally loved the 'forth film by quentin" thing...film buffs know that, and everyone else doesn't really care..it just seemed 'neat' to be succinct. The movie itself should be outstanding if the script is any clue. The scene where uma's in a coma sounds awesome, if he kept it in..oh..spoiler.
Quote from: Satcho9Whose decision do you think it was to put all that "The 4th film from Quentin Tarantino" shit at the beginning. Seems a little pompous.
tarantinos. its even written on the title page of the script in a reportedly "childish scrawl."
I didn't get to see it. I spent a good halfhour downloading quik time and the thing never showed me the trailer. Damn! :evil:
I liked it a lot despite it looking kind of like Charlies Angels meets Crouching Tiger. I cant wait, I liked the music and I like seeing Tarantinos name. Many of you know my hatred towards CGI, and I hope that airplane improves. Why is it a year we have to wait again?
this trailer rocks..... and the movie will kick ass! I'm beting on it.
The cinematog. looks pretty amazing, the best of any Tarantino film to date. It's interesting that Tarantino hired Robert Richardson as DP, who is one of the 5 best DPs working today, but since Robert shot all of Oliver Stone's movies, including Natural Born Killers, a movie that Tarantino was very unhappy with.
Tarantino really is the only director who could pull off "the fourth film" thing. I can only imagine the PDL trailer, with the titlecard "The fourth film by Paul Thomas Anderson" people would be going, "uhhh, ok" LOL
Shouldn't he be kind of embarassed that he has only made four films? I don't think its something to be proud of. Robert Altman has made some 75 films. Can't wait to see the trailer for The Company, his new film about ballet starring Neve Campell- "USA films presents... the 76th film....by Robert Altman"
I love that trailer - I saw it in front of Gangs and ran home and downloaded it...
I think a lot of people don't really get the feel for this film, which is why a lot of people will think it's stupid, but man oh man, I'm seein' the shit out of that movie.
nothing about this trailer makes me want to see this movie
it only makes me want to pretend that this film isn't even happening
"the 4th film by Quentin Tarantino"..........
ok, well since Jackie Browne came out in 1997, Steven Soderbergh has directed 7, did you hear me: SEVEN films!!! (Out of Sight, The Limey, Erin Brokovich, Traffic, Ocean's 11, Full Frontal, Solaris)
shit, even i - tim day - have released more films in the last 5 years than Quentin
and it's not like with Kubrick where the film might actually be worth the wait
I still think Quentin can turn things around - i mean, if he can resurrect Travolta's career, he should be able to resurrect his own - but he needs to put this piece of shit behind him and get back to what got him on top.
-tim-
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ok, well since Jackie Browne came out in 1997, Steven Soderbergh has directed 7, did you hear me: SEVEN films!!! (Out of Sight, The Limey, Erin Brokovich, Traffic, Ocean's 11, Full Frontal, Solaris)
Excellent point. What was it again? Who cares how many movies other directors made, its not a contest to direct as many as possible. Different people work at different paces. I like the "4th film" thing, 1. because It is kind of cocky, I like that from Tarantino and 2. It is a good marketing ploy to fill the theaters with people who thought Pulp Fiction was great but arent necesarily film buffs. And I am waiting on this movie like it was one of Kubricks, that is how much I like Tarantino.
Quote from: buck swopeI still think Quentin can turn things around - i mean, if he can resurrect Travolta's career, he should be able to resurrect his own - but he needs to put this piece of shit behind him and get back to what got him on top.
From Entertainment Weekly:
When Quentin Tarantino, basking in the adulation of "Pulp Fiction," was asked what he would do next, the director quipped, "I'm gonna do a Terrence Malick."
Quote from: MacGuffinTarantino quipped, "I'm gonna do Terrence Malick."
Tarantino's Words of Wisdom.
I don't know how much popularity or praise or integrity or whatever a filmmaker gets from creating a good film one would get by NOT doing any work. The Terrence Malick hiatus thing, uhhh, ok. Have fun.
um, why is everyone so upset about "the 4th film by Tarantino" and "bad CGI", when this film is obviously a spoof on martial arts/hong kong films...with all of the obvious references to films like Crouching Tiger, The Killer, and Black Mask.
Quote from: jontomosiczum, why is everyone so upset about "the 4th film by Tarantino" and "bad CGI"
I for one just dont like CGI, but thats a whole other thread that is in a better place now.
Quote from: jontomosiczum, why is everyone so upset about "the 4th film by Tarantino" and "bad CGI", when this film is obviously a spoof on martial arts/hong kong films...with all of the obvious references to films like Crouching Tiger, The Killer, and Black Mask.
"Kill Bill" is no spoof and those films you mentioned weren't exactly original to begin with; they ripped off what Hong Kong calls "wuxia" films like "Bride With White Hair" or "Once Upon A Time In China". QT knows his asian film history (see his interview on the "Iron Monkey" DVD; he knows his shit) and is influenced by the early films, not these knock-offs of late. Wire work didn't start with "Crouching Tiger..." or "The Matrix". The Warchowski Bros. saw these early films too.
The black mask reference is a nod to Bruce Lee's "Kato" from the "Green Hornet" and Uma's yellow outfit is a nod to his "Game Of Death."
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: jontomosiczum, why is everyone so upset about "the 4th film by Tarantino" and "bad CGI", when this film is obviously a spoof on martial arts/hong kong films...with all of the obvious references to films like Crouching Tiger, The Killer, and Black Mask.
"Kill Bill" is no spoof and those films you mentioned weren't exactly original to begin with; they ripped off what Hong Kong calls "wuxia" films like "Bride With White Hair" or "Once Upon A Time In China". QT knows his asian film history (see his interview on the "Iron Monkey" DVD; he knows his shit) and is influenced by the early films, not these knock-offs of late. Wire work didn't start with "Crouching Tiger..." or "The Matrix". The Warchowski Bros. saw these early films too.
The black mask reference is a nod to Bruce Lee's "Kato" from the "Green Hornet" and Uma's yellow outfit is a nod to his "Game Of Death."
Well, he's not all that wrong Mac... (though SPOOF was probably the wrong word to use)
Those earlier films were actually made after The Killer, which was a John Woo film that was referenced in Jackie Brown.
Also, The Black Mask wasn't really a knock off of "Once Upon a Time in China" because they were both directed by Hark Tsui and the choreography (which is obviously very important in a kung-fu flick) was done by Woo-ping Yuen who also did the choreography for Crouching Tiger, The Matrix, and Kill Bill (oh yeah, and Iron Monkey)
I never said those films originated those styles, but some of the scenes in the Kill Bill trailer definitely mock the films I mentioned. I realize Tarantino is knowledgeable about asian films...he's done quite a bit for the popularity of some of the lesser known ones. But I don't think Tarantino is just borrowing those scenes or paying homage, because the similarities are too obvious and often in an over the top manner.
But it is just a trailer, and I haven't read anything else about the film (I'm not up on my Tarantino current events), so it's just a first impression I guess.
why don't you think it's a spoof (I don't mean in the sense of Space Balls)?
its really more of a tribute than spoof.
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why don't you think it's a spoof (I don't mean in the sense of Space Balls)?
But that's what a spoof is, it's making fun of the original. Kill Bill is more of a Tribute (as Cec said). He holds those films in high regard and is not making fun of them.
spoof ( P )
n.
1. Nonsense; tomfoolery.
2. A hoax.
3. A gentle satirical imitation; a light parody.
Quote from: jontomosiczI never said those films originated those styles, but some of the scenes in the Kill Bill trailer definitely mock the films I mentioned. I realize Tarantino is knowledgeable about asian films...he's done quite a bit for the popularity of some of the lesser known ones. But I don't think Tarantino is just borrowing those scenes or paying homage, because the similarities are too obvious and often in an over the top manner.
Paying homage and mocking are two completley different things. Tarantinos love for the asian style movies is well known, I think he is doing it because he thinks they are good and interesting movies.
But does anyone know how much of a spoof this is going to be? Is it going to be serious at all, or are we looking at Kung Pow: Enter the Fist?
not really a spoof. more of a parody. taking these things and making fun of them a little while still saying they were badass. that's my prediction. i love the trailer. it's a lot of fun. that's what i expect the movie will be. a lot of fun.
Interview w/ Tarantino, who has said Kill Bill is his greatest work.
"You have said KILL BILL would be your greatest work. How is it different from PULP FICTION?
[QT] It's so far the purest action or kung-fu I have made. The movie, with a story about a killer seeking revenge, got lots of action scenes. I I will make it to the coolest movie. Drive people crazy, and make people shaking. Fight scenes in the movie have strong flavor of Chinese kung-fu. This is my attempt of trying new film type, and I will take this opportunity to push me to a new era. In this movie, I will explore my inspiration as much as I like. Meanwhile, the biggest challenge is, I must see whether I can make it to a movie I have imaged and see how high can I reach.
"I heard to make those gangster movies look real, you have talked to criminals, drug addicts, and even gangsters. Is that true?"
[QT] Except filmmakers, I don't really know too many people. I create a character based on my personal experience. My gangsters are just characters. The so called realism is only referring to the dramatization I did to my movies.
Judging from dialogues and plots of your movies, (I say) you are a specialist of Western Pop Culture.
I love Pop Culture.
What made you decided to work with your Chinese partner, attracted by Chinese culture, or some other reason?
I have very good impression on China. You can say I came here because I was attracted by Chinese culture, but the main reason is there are many kung-fu scenes (in the movie). The Chinese are the authority of kung-fu films. They know how to use stuffs like wires to make exciting fight scenes, this is cool. I love Chinese style of jumping, punching and kicking.
-- This is only a couple of questions I selected from the interview. You can read the whole thing here http://www.monkeypeaches.com/020717B.html
yeah, I guess I didn't explain myself...I don't think Tarantino will simply make a Kung Pow movie, because he obviously respects the genre, but I agree with what bonanzataz said,
Quote from: bonanzataztaking these things and making fun of them a little while still saying they were badass.
it will be interesting to see how it turns out....I can't imagine Tarantino would make the fight scenes cheesy like Charlie's Angels, but some of the scenes in the trailer were pretty funny. Hopefully this will be an entirely original take on the martial arts/hong kong genres.
Quote from: cbrad4dThe movie, with a story about a killer seeking revenge, got lots of action scenes. I will make it to the coolest movie. Drive people crazy, and make people shaking . . . I can make it to a movie I have imaged . . . They know how to use stuffs like wires to make exciting fight scenes, this is cool.
Get a new translator.
Yeah, the interview is fucking gibberish.
This will give you an idea as to how the movie's probably going to be like...
BLACK LABEL GAMES AND QUENTIN TARANTINO PARTNER TO PRODUCE A "KILL BILL" VIDEO GAME
Miramax Films and Black Label Games Sign Co-Marketing Deal to Cross-Promote "Kill Bill" Franchise
Black Label Games has signed an agreement to license the interactive rights to Quentin Tarantino's ("Pulp Fiction," "Reservoir Dogs") upcoming Miramax film "Kill Bill."
Slated for theatrical release in October 2003, "Kill Bill," which is being produced by Lawrence Bender through their A Band Apart production company, will star Uma Thurman ("Pulp Fiction," "Beautiful Girls") and Lucy Liu ("Charlie's Angels," "Ally McBeal"). Black Label Games will develop, produce and publish at least one video game based on "Kill Bill" for next generation consoles and the PC, with Tarantino serving as creative consultant on the project and providing exclusive film footage for the game's development.
"The combination of our creative and technology teams coupled with Quentin's vision promises to deliver a high-quality interactive entertainment experience," said Jim Wilson, president of Black Label Games. "We are excited to extend this innovative franchise into an action game featuring a unique cast of female characters that will appeal to gamers everywhere."
About "Kill Bill"
Uma Thurman is going to "Kill Bill," in Quentin Tarantino's latest film about a former assassin betrayed by her boss Bill (David Carradine). Four years after surviving a bullet in the head, the bride (Thurman) emerges from a coma and swears revenge on her former master and his deadly squad of international assassins, played by Lucy Liu, Daryl Hannah, Vivica A. Fox and Michael Madsen.
First off...
The film reminded me of 'Fox Force 5' mentioned in Pulp Fiction.
Second off...
this is a teaser trailer..and in my experience, teaser trailers are often not good representations of the actual film. Perhaps this teaser is supposed to hook a different audience. The Tarantino fans will be there no matter what the teaser shows.
With that, I do agree that the teaser did turn me off a bit, but in Tarantino I trust.
I sometimes like teasers better than the trailers, Ive watched the Requiem for a Dream teaser about 24 times.
Quote from: Duck SauceI sometimes like teasers better than the trailers, Ive watched the Requiem for a Dream teaser about 24 times.
thats true. most of the time trailers reveal too much about the plot of the movie.
and that requiem teaser is the best.
i dont think we should expect a masterpiece, i think we should just expect what he has told us: A balls-to-the-wall action movie. It seems after this long break he's cleansing his pallete with this totally apeshit action movie. I read the 25,187 page version of the script, and it seems designed to just rock everyone's socks off. In twenty years, it might not be one of his more memorable films, I think Inglorious Bastards'll probably be better.
Im looking forward to it, though. Its gonna rock my socks off.
Quote from: SHAFTRFirst off...
The film reminded me of 'Fox Force 5' mentioned in Pulp Fiction.
Hey, that's true, it does kinda look like fox force 5. I finally saw the trailer. If it had been anyone other then tarantino, I might have thought it was stupid, but I trust him. He's going for some genius angle, I'm sure. Plus, it kinda has a style to its cheesyness. I can't wait.
First of all i have to say that kill bill just looks phenominally cool, he still keeps his pop culture MTV style dialog whilst simply making great movies.. cant wait to see it.
But my real question.. does anyone know the title of the theme song from thr trailer? ie. is it already a song or was it composed especially for the film?
Quote from: Cino121First of all i have to say that kill bill just looks phenominally cool, he still keeps his pop culture MTV style dialog whilst simply making great movies.. cant wait to see it.
But my real question.. does anyone know the title of the theme song from thr trailer? ie. is it already a song or was it composed especially for the film?
RZA of Wu-tang fame composed it I believe especially for the film.
Why did I watch the trailer? Why oh why did I just watch a darker version of Charlys Angels? Why did I have to see an axe fly by, and then wait, Uma fly by too? I never thought I would ever, ever, ever see an
"Uma fly-by". why oh why oh why, eeewww e uuuu weeeeee uuuuu!
I thought maybe that was a Daryl Hannah fly-by
Quote from: Cino121But my real question.. does anyone know the title of the theme song from thr trailer? ie. is it already a song or was it composed especially for the film?
The guitarist of a Japanese group called HOTEI is credited for making the music for the Kill Bill trailer. Hotei Tomoyasu was the music supervisor for the soundtrack of the yakuza picture, "New Jingi Naki tatakai." He has worked with Michael Kamen, Brian Setzer, David Bowie, etc. and exchange. He has also participated in "Merry Axemas" which Steve Vai, and "Happy Xmas". Moreover, this guitarist has performed in the closing ceremony of the Atlanta Olympics.
The song is by Hotei Tomoyasu and the song is called Shin Jingi-Naki Tatakai!
Listen to it in it's entirety here. (https://www.quickbase.com/up/6x8qki23/g/rk/eh/va/killbillteaser.mp3)
Man that's sweet
that song's also in the movie, but just for a pump up scene, not for the actual fight scene. there is this awesome spanish song in the fight scene (or the final part of the fight scene), it's so good.
Yawn. I like Tarantino, some what, but probably will pass on this. Maybe it's because I'm just not that big a fan of kung fu, or "chinese culture", but this looks like a big yawn fest for me.
I'm soooo tired of kung fu movies. I mean, hell they've been doing the same kung fu movie for eons. how 'bout a kung fu movie where somebody isn't out for revenge?
i think it looks pretty badass... and the music is awesome. looks a like a tribute to the kung fu films of yore, and not another matrix steaming pile of wirework crap. and the script was pretty awesome.
Quote from: Mr. Mauvelooks a like a tribute to the kung fu films of yore, and not another matrix steaming pile of wirework crap.
Yuen Woo Ping - Same fight choreographer for both films. So stop with The Matrix bashing. The W Brothers and QT both have an appreciation for 'kung fu films of yore'. It's when films like Charlie's Angels and Scary Movie do the 'wirework crap' that you should complain.
I liked the Matrix moves and I completely agree with MacGuffin. Blame Charlies Angels for overdoing bad Matrix-wannabe stunts. Most of The Matrix stunts are well choreographed and entertaining. If anyone could set up the stunts for Kill Bill, it should be Yuen Woo Ping.
I'm not annoyed when Scary Movie does it because its poking fun. But Charlies Angels isn't poking fun. They're trying to have a Matrix style. But it sucks and they fail.
point taken. it really isnt the matrix's fault, but good lord im getting so sick of wire fu. and i didnt know yuen wo ping was doing it... should be interesting.
just saw a "new" kill bill trailer on Entertainment Tonight. however, it was spliced up and Leonard Maltin talked over most of it. i love ET. new scenes like
-Uma waking up in the hospital.
-Uma & Vivica Fox fighting in Fox's house when a schoolbus pulls up outside, and her daughter comes in, as they stop.
-Uma fighting some girl with a heavy ball on a chain
Quote from: themodernage02-Uma fighting some girl with a heavy ball on a chain
That's Chiaki Kuriyama from "Battle Royale".
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.ent4.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Fmiramax_films%2Fkill_bill__volume_1%2Fchiaki_kuriyama%2Fbill.jpg&hash=a8441d0b36a6a303f8004fa90f0a79580a60edae)
Brand New Theatrical Trailer Here. (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/movies/trailers/1808404742/1808510567/?http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/launch?lid=wmv-300-s.5091656-0,wmv-100-s.5091657-0,rnv-56-s.5091673-0,wmv-56-s.5091658-0,rnv-300-s.5091666-0&p=movies&f=1808404742&.spid=1808510567&.dist=Miramax&type=t%22,500,590);)
Windows Media Hi-Res Here. (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=5091656)
Real Player Hi-Res Here. (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=5091666&segment=0&s=1808404742&ru=embedded%2Eyahoo%2Ecom&b=3paisi8vinhle3f600c71)
I like the new trailer. We actually get to hear dialogue (not to mention "Don't let me be misunderstood" by Santa Esmaralda.) I like the fight with Vivica A. Fox.
i didnt get an erection, but i shouldve
does anyone know when it'll be available for quicktime?
Quote from: ewarddoes anyone know when it'll be available for quicktime?
Here you go:
http://anon.ifilm.speedera.net/anon.ifilm/qt/portal/2477214_200.mov
thank you very much, macguffin.
MacGuffs, I know I've said it before, but can I just say...You're The Fucking Man
I cant fucking wait, its been more than a year since ive been this excited for a movie. New trailer is fucking great
btw does anybody know how to download the apple.com quicktime trailers to harddrive?
anyone know when it will start playing on TV
roger avary claims to allready having seen one on tv
I actually saw one on tv last night, but i dont remember what station it was on.
Quote from: Cecilroger avary claims to allready having seen one on tv
I can confirm that. Hehe, not that it matters. I forget where it was that I saw it, but I'm thinking NBC or Comedy Central. Or possibly ABC Family, though I doubt it.
now that i remember im sure it was NBC because my girlfriends brother was watching a rerun SNL during the time of the kill bill trailer sighting.
Quote from: EEz28now that i remember im sure it was NBC because my girlfriends brother was watching a rerun SNL during the time of the kill bill trailer sighting.
Yeah, that's probably where I saw it, too.
And now that I think about it, wouldn't Tarantino make a great host for SNL?
EDIT: Just now, I saw a quick teaser TV spot during an episode of The Critic (on Comedy Central, of course).
I don't know if any one noticed this or if it maters but Uma does the same square hand motion when she is talking to Vernita Green that she did in PF.- The only scene that truly felt out of place. Probably nothing more than a coincidence. I doubt it has any intended QT meaning. :?: :?:
Quote from: hangt5I doubt it has any intended QT meaning. :?: :?:
i thought it was a blatant, though non-gratuitous reference. hard to do properly.