if there's a TOP 10 westerns than, why not this? seems like a good enough topic. lord knows theres plenty to choose from. so lets see some lists, what are YOUR FAVORITE science fiction films?
here are mine......
1. the empire strikes back
2. aliens
3. 2001: a space odyssey
4. total recall
5. minority report
6. robocop
7. t2: judgement day
8. the road warrior
9. ai: artificial intelligence
10. the matrix
honorable mentions to Metropolis, The Running Man, The Thing, Solaris (2002), and all the ones i am forgetting.
*edit (added a few honorable mentions after i left them out).
Alphabetically:
1.) 2001: A Space Odyssey
2.) Alien
3.) Blade Runner
4.) Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
5.) Dark City
6.) The Day The Earth Stood Still
7.) The Matrix
8.) Planet Of The Apes (1968)
9.) Star Wars
10.) Terminator 2: Judgment Day
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11. - Honorable Mention) E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
In my book, any list that doesn't give Tarkovsky's Solaris its due as the counterpoint to the great 2001 is discredited.
And what about Alphaville?
i preferred Soderberghs, and thought Alphaville was disappointing. FIRE AWAY!
but instead of discrediting OUR lists, howsabout you putting your pics on the line for scrutiny. lets see whatchagot!
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1. BladeRunner[/b][/color][/size] (1982 - Ridley Scott)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey[/b][/color][/size] (1967 - Stanley Kubrick)
3. A Boy & His Dog[/b][/color][/size] (1975 - L.Q. Jones)
4. Solaris[/b][/color][/size] (1972 - Andrei Tarkovski)
5. Invasion of the Body Snatchers[/b][/color][/size] (1956 - Don Siegel)
6. 12 Monkeys[/b][/color][/size] (1995 - Terry Gilliam)
7. Alien[/b][/color][/size] (1979 - Ridley Scott)
8. Close Encounters of the Third Kind[/b][/color][/size](1977 - Steven Spielberg)
9. The Thing[/b][/color][/size] (1982 - John Carpenter)
10. Akira[/size][/color] (1988 - Katshuhiro Otomo)
-ET the extraterrestrial
-a clockwork orange
-2001: A space odyssey
-alphaville
-star wars
-empire strikes back
-return of the jedi
-back to the future
-signs
-vanilla sky
-codename:dragonfly
-punch drunk love
I actually still haven't seen Close Encounters or Solaris...I really really want to see them both.
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-punch drunk love
what? well i guess... if you dont believe in true love, lol
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-punch drunk love
what? well i guess... if you dont believe in true love, lol
Lol, that's right! Hence the theory behind it. I still love the movie to pieces though, despite my rather major, bitter disagreement.
I should have put Chasing Amy on there too...just remembered that joke on the Evening with Kev Smith dvd about it being his big sci fi movie, lol...that's probably the funniest thing he's ever been involved in.
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-return of the jedi
-signs
-vanilla sky
I hate these movies so bad. Oh so bad. And what is Codename Dragonfly, it's not even on IMDB :roll:
1.) brazil
2.) 2001
3.) minority report
4.) a clockwork orange
5.) dark city
bladerunner, return of the jedi, 12 monkeys and alien 2 are all close i guess. and i really dislike vanilla sky too.
Quote from: BoothAnd what is Codename Dragonfly, it's not even on IMDB :roll:
It's the movie within the movie "CQ".
Blade Runner would be number two on my list, fo' sho,' right behind 2001. Dark City is a terrific entry. I wouldn't put the Star Wars trilogy up there. I love those movies to death, but they're not really sci fi, in my opinion, and I'd rather see the space on the list used for other films.
Blade Runner
2001
Solaris (tarkovsky)
Stalker
Minority Report
A.I.
Star Wars
Alien
THx1138
Mission to Mars
Edit: Holy shit, I forgot Dune!
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-return of the jedi
-signs
-vanilla sky
I hate these movies so bad. Oh so bad. And what is Codename Dragonfly, it's not even on IMDB :roll:
I know, I know...a lot of people hate them. They're guilty pleasures of mine I guess. Except for ROTJ, that's a very well liked movie, isn't it? I'm not one of those Star Wars geeks but I like the original trilogy.
Return Of The Jedi is actually generally regarded as a poor film. I disagree -- sure, the Ewoks are cute, but there's a great amount of maturity in the film as well that people seem to miss. The stuff with Luke and Vader, and also Yoda's last scene, are really powerful (if you subscribe to the Star Wars stuff to begin with -- don't jump on me, GT!)
This doesn't, however, go for the Special Edition, which replaced the great Ewoks song with some Yanni music, and also had that incredibly lame musical number in Jabba's palace. THAT is a bad movie.
1. Brazil
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Empire Strikes Back (which is fantasy so maybe ET instead)
4. Blade Runner
5. 12 Monkeys
6. A Clockwork Orange
7. Back To The Future
8. Aliens
9. Dark City
10. Planet of the Apes (1968)[/i]
Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
I'm not sure if I'd put the original Solaris in my top ten at all. Both the original and remake seem to have qualities about them that are intriguing but never fully rewarding. The remake is able to lift much of the humanity from the novel but still never goes beyond that. Its an exercise in everything already seen from the first visually and narratively and the moments of revelation feel like a game of kissing the foot of another work instead. The original on the other hand, seems to act as 2001 but as if 2001 took place entirely on the space ship. 2001 has various locations and fills up the atmosphere with music to play to the emptiness in the movie in making it a more bearable experience. Solaris is meditative and atmospheric, but really on a very minor level when compared to 2001. With its story and approach on how it seemed more like a human drama, I just wish there would have been more advancements in the story and less minor moments of reflection by the main character for endless periods of time. It would have been a more rewarding film. I still like the original and really loved it when I first watched it, but my opinion is dwindling. its trying to be 2001 when it doesn't have the qualities to boot.
~rougerum
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3. Empire Strikes Back (which is fantasy so maybe ET instead)
yeah i was struggling with whether or not the Star Wars trilogy even counts as sci-fi since theres not really any science involved i think they really do count as fantasy. i didnt list et either, because i thought that it was certainly in the fantasy realm. same with back to the future.
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-codename:dragonfly
-punch drunk love
have you honestly not seen enough decent sci-fi flicks that you had to name these?
Spaceballs is the best sci-fi movie ever!
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-codename:dragonfly
-punch drunk love
have you honestly not seen enough decent sci-fi flicks that you had to name these?
Yea, I'm not really that big on sci-fi. I do love all the movies I listed a lot though and I'm open to recommendations. Most of it just doesn't do a whole lot for me, that's all. The only sci-fi I have yet to see that interests me the least bit is Tarkovsky's stuff and then Close Encounters like I said. And when I make any kind of "best of" list, I don't use decent movies I've seen to fill in the blanks...they don't fit.
i have to agree.. Wrath of Khan should be in there somewhere.
Nobody mentioned Predator. And yes, Space Balls is a fantastic sci-fi movie. :-D
Or Predator 2 for that matter. One of my fave sequels (and I typically
hate sequels.)
Quote from: punchdrunk23Sorry for all the posts folks. Last one on this thread for awhile, promise (my brain's working in spurts today)....but the best sci-fi flick IMO has to be Close Encounters of the Third Kind!
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1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. The Day The Earth Stood Still
3. A Clockwork Orange
4. Solaris (Tarkovsky)
5. Blade Runner
6. Star Wars (ESB)
7. The Matrix
8. Princess Mononoke
9. Ghost In The Shell
10. Gatacca
the one good thing that has come out of this list crap is that whenever i can't get to sleep, there's no shortage of where to go for assistance.
Quote from: Pthe one good thing that has come out of this list crap is that whenever i can't get to sleep, there's no shortage of where to go for assistance.
I usually don't read "crap" if I don't like it. You might try that sometime. It works great.
Quote from: halo_onI usually don't read "crap" if I don't like it. You might try that sometime. It works great.
u might try shutting up. thanksinadvance.
My list wouldn't look much different then those that came before me. I would have The Abyss on it, though. I didn't see anyone mention that one yet.
I'll post a top ten list later. Before I do, I just wanted to point ou that nobodt has mentioned the John Frankenheimer film Seconds with Rock Hudson in the lead role.
1 brazil
2 end of evangelion
3 ghost in the shell
4 12 monkeys
5 Lain (the series)
6 sentinelles
7 blade runner
8 abre los ojos
9 avalon
10 aeon flux (the series)
The Blob 1958
A Clockwork Orange
Star Wars
Blade Runner
Mad Max
Dune - Lynch's
The Crow
Total Recall
T2
Reloaded
I'm ashamed to say I haven't watched 2001 all the way through in a LONG time. I also need to re-view Brazil and 12 Monkeys.
1. Star Wars: A New Hope
2. Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back
3. Starship Toopers
4. The Matrix
5. Minority Report
6. Terminator 2
7. Blade Runner
8. Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey
9. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
10. Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
1. SW: A New Hope
2. SW: The Empire Strikes Back
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. Alien
5. ST II: The Wrath of Kahn
6. Brazil
7. Metropolis
8. The Day the Earth Stood Still
9. Clockwork Orange {i'd include it as Sci-fi}
10. Solaris (Tarkovsky)
I'd also say that "Things To Come", "Sleeper", "The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai Across The Eighth Dimension", "Planet of the Apes", "THX-1138", "Forbidden Planet", "The Road Warrior", "Blade Runner", "Close Encounters" and "12 Monkeys" deserve to be mentioned.
Spaceballs Rules
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
The 10 Most Hideous Aliens on Film
Source: IGN.Filmforce
The annals of cinema are chock-full of hideous creatures from outer space. And in celebration of the forthcoming release of Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy – sure to have plenty of hideous creatures of its own – we thought we'd breakdown the ten most hideous aliens on film.
#10: Jabba the Hutt - Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Jabba... the mere mention of his name evokes hideous images. I'm not talking about the new, CG-animated wussy version either. I'm talking about the bong-smoking, slimey-tongued, frog-eating Jabba from Return of the Jedi. The Jenny Craig-needin' Hutt, with his slug-like body, drooling toothless grin, and reptilian eyes, lived like a king in his Tatooine palace until Luke Skywalker and friends brought the pain. Jabba's body was burnt to a crisp in the flames that engulfed his sail barge as the Rebels raced for freedom. Who's up for barbeque!?
#9: The Blob - The Blob
No ground-breaking concept design here. But somebody tell me what's not hideous about a creature from another planet that resembles (probably because it is) a giant blob of gelatinous goo. In the 1958 sci-fi classic, the seemingly unstoppable blob grows larger and larger, bloated with the blood of its victims, until it meets its match in Steve McQueen.
#8: ID4 Aliens - Independence Day
Yes, the movie is cheesy and the creature designers owe a great deal to the creators of Alien and Predator, but the exoskeleton aliens from Independence Day are hideous and original enough to make our list. What about when the captured alien used its tentacles to grab Data? That was pretty freaky. Yeah, those ID4 aliens were tough... Too bad they didn't upgrade their virus scan software.
#7: E.T. - E.T. the Extraterrestrial
Face it... E.T. is straight-up scary. That weird, long neck. Glowing insides. Those freakishly enormous eyes! And the truly hideous part was when he turned all white and fossilized looking. I don't think I'm the only one who had nightmares about that.
#6: Brain Bug - Starship Troopers
It kind of looks like a butt. I don't know if that's what director Paul Verhoeven and the designers at Phil Tippett Studios had in mind when created this gruesome Starship Troopers creature, but it resembles a giant alien butt... a butt with eight eyes and some really freaky pincer things... but a butt nonetheless. I'd say that easily qualifies the Brain Bug as one of the most hideous movie aliens.
#5: Jar Jar Binks - Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Truly horrific, the creature known as Jar Jar Binks first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. The Gungan, with his yellow, crab-like eyes, duck-billed mouth and large flappy ears, strikes fear in the hearts of many Star Wars fans. But what's worse than Jar Jar's strange appearance are his bungling, haphazard mannerisms and his ultimate weapon... that voice. No sooner had he "boomed da gasser, and crashed de boss's heyblibber," than he crushed the hopes of George Lucas devotees the world over. Hideous, indeed!
#4: Predator - Predator
They're strong, highly-skilled, intelligent warriors... and they're hideous! No, I'm not talking about the IGN editorial staff, I'm talking about the Yautja from the Predator series. First appearing in 1987's Predator, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, the creatures mercilessly hunt down a team of commandos who are on a mission in the South American jungle. The hunters, with their freaky-looking mandibles and fleshy dreadlocks, went on to appear in the 1990 sequel Predator 2 and the recent Alien Vs. Predator.
#3: Alien - Alien
Designed by H.R. Giger for Ridley Scott's 1979 classic Alien, the fierce-looking alien creatures from that flick have gone on to appear in a number of sequels, including the recent (some would say unfortunate) Alien Vs. Predator. Regardless of your feelings about the most recent outing, you can't deny the hideousness of the Alien aliens. Even their eggs are disgusting. And of course there's the always pleasant facehugger and chestburster stages of development. Hungry yet? But none can compare to good ol' Mama Alien. With her elongated cranium and deadly secondary jaw, the "Alien" is a truly hideous creation.
#2: The Thing - John Carpenter's The Thing
While the special effects of John Carpenter's classic may not impress by today's standards, The Thing is still freakin' disgusting. The mysterious alien creature crashed on Earth centuries ago. Thrown clear of its ship, the alien was frozen in the Antarctic ice and ultimately uncovered by a group of unfortunate Norwegian scientists. Reanimated, the creature has the unique ability to alter its cellular structure and take on the form of organisms it consumes – a nasty process, to say the least.
#1: Humma Kavula - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Really, ask yourself... What could be more hideous than an alien that dresses like Elton John, has dozens of little mechanical spider leg thingies, and the head and torso of John Malkovich? That's right, nothing could be more gruesome than Humma Kavula, a character specially created by Douglas Adams for the movie version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. All that's known about Humma is that he's an megalomaniacal, religious cult leader who can currently be found preaching to the Jatravartid people of Viltvodle VI as they await the coming of the Great White Handkerchief.
Alien will always be the scariest alien. It just looks DANGEROUS. It should have been number one but those chumps who made that list wanted to use the 1 spot to crack a joke instead. Bad journalism.
Quote from: IGN.FilmforceThey're strong, highly-skilled, intelligent warriors... and they're hideous! No, I'm not talking about the IGN editorial staff
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ALIEN is not a sci-fi film and shouldn't be considered as such.
Then what is it? Just straight horror?
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkThen what is it? Just straight horror?
I think it's both really.
Here is the plot summary on IMDB.. Totally Sci-Fi and very much a horror film.
When commercial towing vehicle Nostromo, heading back to Earth, intercepts an SoS signal from a nearby planet, the crew are under obligation to investigate. After a bad landing on the planet, some crew members leave the ship to explore the area. At the same time as they discover a hive colony of some unknown creature, the ship's computer deciphers the message to be a warning, not a call for help. When one of the eggs is disturbed, the crew do not know the danger they are in until it is too late.Would anyone consider Independence Day a science fiction film?
10 - Men In Black
9 - Ghost In The Shell
8 - SW: Return of the Jedi
7 - SW: A New Hope
6 - SW: Empire Strikes Back
5 - Metropolis
4 - 12 Monkeys
3 - Blade Runner
2 - Brazil
1 - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Alien is a horror film - a monster movie in space.
Their is a misconception that any film which takes place in the future and/or in space is a sci-fi film.
It's like calling TIMELINE a historical fiction.
Damn, now that you've brought up this question, I've totally lost the meaning of "sci-fi".
if the movie involves science we've never used/seen before or haven't developed yet it's a sci-fi.
Quote from: cowboykurtisAlien is a horror film - a monster movie in space.
Their is a misconception that any film which takes place in the future and/or in space is a sci-fi film.
It's like calling TIMELINE a historical fiction.
i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both. what about the cryosleep? or the android? thats sci-fi.
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i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both
This doesn't make sense.
this is a contradiction within a hypocritical sentence.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: cowboykurtisAlien is a horror film - a monster movie in space.
Their is a misconception that any film which takes place in the future and/or in space is a sci-fi film.
It's like calling TIMELINE a historical fiction.
i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both. what about the cryosleep? or the android? thats sci-fi.
Or how about the fact that they are on a space vehicle and intercept an S.O.S. signal coming from another planet? Smells like Sci-Fi to me. How about Men in Black then? Is that Sci-Fi?
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i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both
This doesn't make sense.
this is a contradiction within a hypocritical sentence.
Couldn't Alien be a sci-fi/horror since it deals with aliens that have a look that we created for them to make them scary?
It is two genres, in my opinion. It approaches something we don't know about, and assumes its properties. A fictitious look at science. Sci-fi, check. It's also scary. Horror, check.
I disagree with the statement "Science plus fiction = Science Fiction", but I think that Alien is a Sci-Fi horror movie.
it's mostly horror, but the technology is focused on a lot. There are the shots of the monitors and everything.
Star Wars, on the other hand is certainly NOT sci-fi... it's fantasy all the way.
Quote from: MyxomatosisQuote from: themodernage02Quote from: cowboykurtisAlien is a horror film - a monster movie in space.
Their is a misconception that any film which takes place in the future and/or in space is a sci-fi film.
It's like calling TIMELINE a historical fiction.
i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both. what about the cryosleep? or the android? thats sci-fi.
Or how about the fact that they are on a space vehicle and intercept an S.O.S. signal coming from another planet? Smells like Sci-Fi to me.
Or how 'bout, I dunno, the alien itself?
Quote from: themodernage021. the empire strikes back
2. aliens
3. 2001: a space odyssey
4. total recall
5. minority report
6. robocop
7. t2: judgement day
8. the road warrior
9. ai: artificial intelligence
10. the matrix
Sorry, mod, but all of these are now classified Action movies, not Sci-Fi.
Quote from: Holden Pike1. BladeRunner[/b][/color][/size] (1982 - Ridley Scott)
Film noir.
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Comedy.
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Foreign.
i think their are elements of sci - film - the crio-freeze, the robot, etc.
However, the alien is the one part that does not fit into a sci-fi classification.
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i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both. what about the cryosleep? or the android? thats sci-fi.
Or how about the fact that they are on a space vehicle and intercept an S.O.S. signal coming from another planet? Smells like Sci-Fi to me.
Or how 'bout, I dunno, the alien itself?
Quote from: themodernage021. the empire strikes back
2. aliens
3. 2001: a space odyssey
4. total recall
5. minority report
6. robocop
7. t2: judgement day
8. the road warrior
9. ai: artificial intelligence
10. the matrix
Sorry, mod, but all of these are now classified Action movies, not Sci-Fi.
Those actually are all sci-fi excluding star wars and alien.
Quote from: cowboykurtisThose actually are all sci-fi excluding star wars and alien.
How is Road Warrior more Sci-Fi than Alien or Star Wars?
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: cowboykurtisThose actually are all sci-fi excluding star wars and alien.
How is Road Warrior more Sci-Fi than Alien or Star Wars?
I overlooked roadwarrior - you're right.
My opinion of sci-fi as a genre is as follows:
Sci-fi is a literary or cinematic genre concerned with speculative scientific discoveries, developments, and/or environmental changes which inform the literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society.
With that said, you look at a films like minority report or AI or 2001, which are truly sci-fi, they use speculative scientific developments to employ a surrounding plot. In each of the said films, the central foundation of the film is concerned with the given scientific development and it's effect on humans and their moral/intellectual/emotional responses.
The alien franchise uses space exploration to insert a cool looking monster where humans can be slaughtered and/or shoot the monster with big guns. There is really nothing adressed as to the social and/or existential effect this has on society/humanity.
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Quote from: cowboykurtisMy opinion of sci-fi as a genre is as follows:
Sci-fi is a literary or cinematic genre concerned with speculative scientific discoveries, developments, and/or environmental changes which inform the literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society.
With that said, you look at a films like minority report or AI or 2001, which are truly sci-fi, they use speculative scientific developments to employ a surrounding plot. In each of the said films, the central foundation of the film is concerned with the given scientific development and it's effect on humans and their moral/intellectual/emotional responses.
The alien franchise uses space exploration to insert a cool looking monster where humans can be slaughtered and/or shoot the monster with big guns. There is really nothing adressed as to the social and/or existential effect this has on society/humanity.
Very well said.
Quote from: cowboykurtisThere is really nothing adressed as to the social and/or existential effect this has on society/humanity.
i'd say it says people don't change even if they're in space.
Quote from: picolasQuote from: cowboykurtisThere is really nothing adressed as to the social and/or existential effect this has on society/humanity.
i'd say it says people don't change even if they're in space.
I'd say the effect is that the alien was to be captured for The Company to be used as a bio-weapon against humanity.
Quote from: RegularKarateI disagree with the statement "Science plus fiction = Science Fiction", but I think that Alien is a Sci-Fi horror movie.
it's mostly horror, but the technology is focused on a lot. There are the shots of the monitors and everything.
Star Wars, on the other hand is certainly NOT sci-fi... it's fantasy all the way.
I agree with this post. But I find it humorous that "shots of the monitors" makes it sci-fi, haha.
The thread between sci-fi and fantasy is much easier to define. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are all about mythic groups of people with fantastic worlds and creatures. In other words, make believe. However, reading IMDb's list of "Fantasy" movies, they classify pictures like The Seventh Seal and Being John Malkovich as such. I would only say elements of these pictures were fantasy, obviously.
I think my points is that genres are so broad that most anything could be any genre. And that means they don't really matter. Also, they're not very narrow (except for maybe westerns and film noirs and musicals), so of course Alien is sci-fi. But then again, so is Donnie Darko?
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i agree with your misconception but i think Alien is still both
This doesn't make sense.
this is a contradiction within a hypocritical sentence.
i agree that it is a misconception where many people think that a movie involving an alien or space is automatically science fiction. but i disagree that alien is not.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: picolasQuote from: cowboykurtisThere is really nothing adressed as to the social and/or existential effect this has on society/humanity.
i'd say it says people don't change even if they're in space.
I'd say the effect is that the alien was to be captured for The Company to be used as a bio-weapon against humanity.
That is an ancillary detail of the film - not a substanative theme.
i think it's a BIG theme. it's the behaviour of the characters. and it's different from other sci-fis where people are like "i am unsure of what to do with regards to the current etc"
Space travel? My word, I have never heard such malarkey in all my years.
where are the film school assholes when you need them? how about the decade-long academic debate in semantics vs. syntax or whatever they say, that a genre is not compose of themes/ arcs or imageries/ devices, but an amalgram of both? I forgot who said that. to exclude alien from the sci-fi genre seems really petty--that just because it doesn't play like a sci-fi makes it not a sci-fi. genre classification really is only useful when you're doing genre criticism anyways--when you're writing essays that compare and contrast a group of films. why are you so adamant about picking off alien? do you really want ign to bump off that spot so they can name another creature on their list? ign never even claimed that alien was a sci-fi film--they just listed 10 scariest alien creatures in films anyways.
pseudo-intellectual pettiness and academia may both seem assholish on the surface, but at least the latter can get people to agree with their bullshit.
Quote from: petewhy are you so adamant about picking off alien? do you really want ign to bump off that spot so they can name another creature on their list? ign never even claimed that alien was a sci-fi film--they just listed 10 scariest alien creatures in films anyways.
pseudo-intellectual pettiness and academia may both seem assholish on the surface, but at least the latter can get people to agree with their bullshit.
This has never been a debate about IGN's list. IGN's list is Most Hideous Alien on film - I think Alien should be #1 on this list.
However, if you had actually read the duration of the debate (or the thread title), you'd see it's a been about a question of genre. Not a quarrel over an inconsequential magazine list.
Bladerunner is not just film noir. That's what is missing here. It is the epitomy of science fiction as well.
"Science fiction deals with the influence of real or imagined science on society or individuals."
The film is about a few intelligent androids struggling to free themselves from slavery. The whole film is framed with technology and it moves the story forward. Does anyone here honestly believe that Blade Runner is not science fiction?
Blade Runner is about as Science Fiction as you can get.
Blade runner is at #1 of my Top ten sci-fi list of all time, as I am watching it right now. The rest goes:
2001: a space odyssey
The Fly
The Matrix
Total Recall
Close Encounters of the third kind
Dark City
Watchmen
Star Trek
PDL <3
no, but seriously if that doesn't count then I guess it's...Idk, what am I forgetting here? uhhh... oh yeah, T2!
Great list!