My childhood just died

Just Withnail · August 19, 2003, 03:33:07 PM

QuoteIt all points to Disney's next two animated features (this fall's Brother Bear and next spring's Home on the Range) being their last.

I know their last few "efforts" have been nothing short of crap, but come on? Totally abandon 2D?? Morons. It's all in the STORY! You can shove those show-off exploding pixels right up your arse if you haven't got a decent script.

So, after Eisner decided it was wise to start re-making classics in 3D, he's now cutting off all bonds to the past? Fuck him, I'm watching Snow White. :x

Redlum · August 19, 2003, 05:20:29 PM

Bullshit is all I have to say to that.

I hope Pixar are laughing at them.

Just reading some of the remaining animators resumes makes this even more tragic.

mutinyco · August 19, 2003, 07:40:05 PM

I think that's great news. If only Pixar would follow suit. I can't stand kids cartoons.

Xixax · August 19, 2003, 08:28:28 PM

Burn in hell, Disney.

I've never been a fan.

Ghostboy · August 19, 2003, 08:39:20 PM

More to the point: burn in hell, Eisner.

Ernie · August 19, 2003, 08:57:27 PM

Yea, I spent a ton more time with the Ghostbusters, the Ninja Turtles, Beetlejuice, and Bill & Ted as a kid then I ever did with any of the disney movies, I don't care that much. I guess a couple of the old movies have a small place in my memory but they don't compare to all the aformentioned non-disney stuff....I don't care at all. I wouldn't ever introduce my kids to any movie akin to their recent shit anyway.

Winston Wolf · August 19, 2003, 09:56:19 PM

I dont necessarily find it disturbing to me that disney is going away from
2-d, because if you notice that a bigger disney problem is that none of their last few movies had any music numbers. If you look at tarzan it only had music by phil collins not a character being voiced by him to get a kid to brush his teeth or something. Because music was at one time a big money maker for disney it now has to be replaced by ticket sales which their 3-d films seem to make. Its just that everyone today is acting a little older at heart, and want to have animation incorperating adult humor, much like how pixar takes a look at its plots.

rustinglass · August 20, 2003, 03:45:08 AM

I hear they made a great short written by salvador dali and walt himself. I heard it's fucking awesome buut I don't know if it's 3d

Find Your Magali · August 20, 2003, 08:08:36 AM

I guess Disney is still holding onto their final ace. They STILL haven't released Aladdin on DVD. Once they do that, it's over for them.

Ghostboy · August 20, 2003, 10:01:47 AM

They have a handful of 2D movies in development, including a Don Quixote project (hey, I wonder if they'll avoid the curse), so there'll probably still be 2D stuff from them for a handful years to come.

But man, does Brother Bear look like the worst Disney film ever or what.

modage · August 20, 2003, 01:36:56 PM

Quote from: Winston WolfI dont necessarily find it disturbing to me that disney is going away from
2-d, because if you notice that a bigger disney problem is that none of their last few movies had any music numbers. If you look at tarzan it only had music by phil collins not a character being voiced by him to get a kid to brush his teeth or something. Because music was at one time a big money maker for disney it now has to be replaced by ticket sales which their 3-d films seem to make. Its just that everyone today is acting a little older at heart, and want to have animation incorperating adult humor, much like how pixar takes a look at its plots.

well, the high point of the most recent era of disney was definitely the late 80s/early 90s. where they had the incredible streak of The Little Mermaid (1989), Beauty And The Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992), and The Lion King (1994). which all had the proven formula of love story, wacky sidekicks, and musical numbers. however, in keeping with this formula with their next few efforts, the bland Pocahantas, Hunchback of Notre Dame and Mulan, were far less successfull than their predecesors. so the formula was atleast temporarily abandoned for their next few movies Hercules, Tarzan, Emperors New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo And Stitch, and Treasure Planet. unfortunately, with the exception of Lilo And Stitch none of these were the wild successes that disney had hoped for. so it wasnt the publics tiring of musicals as they had thought. because they dont want more adult stories either. i thought the Emperors New Groove and Lilo And Stitch were as good as any of Disneys older classics. so now with Brother Bear is an attempt to return to the glory of The Lion King, by basically doing a movie that is supposed to resemble it. for a much younger crowd than Atlantis (PG!).

Quote from: mutinycoI think that's great news. If only Pixar would follow suit. I can't stand kids cartoons.

perhaps you would prefer them if they were subtitled?

Winston Wolf · August 20, 2003, 11:39:17 PM

Oh man did atlantis bite the swollen one, also what the hell is up with all the 2-d crap animation straight to video movies disney keeps churnin out like grandmas brownies?

Ravi · August 21, 2003, 01:55:51 AM

Quote from: ebeamanYea, I spent a ton more time with the Ghostbusters, the Ninja Turtles, Beetlejuice, and Bill & Ted as a kid then I ever did with any of the disney movies, I don't care that much. I guess a couple of the old movies have a small place in my memory but they don't compare to all the aformentioned non-disney stuff....I don't care at all. I wouldn't ever introduce my kids to any movie akin to their recent shit anyway.

Same here. I was into Ninja Turtles, Beetlejice, Bill & Ted (aah, the CBS cartoon brings back memories). I wasn't that into Ghostbusters, though. I also liked Batman, Tom and Jerry (the good years) and the old WB cartoons. The only Disney films I watched a lot as a kid were Aladdin and Homeward Bound.

Quote from: GhostboyBut man, does Brother Bear look like the worst Disney film ever or what.

It definitely looks bad, but it has to compete with Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Jungle Book 2, and the Winnie The Pooh films for the title of Worst Disney Film Ever. I saw the trailer with a friend before Finding Nemo and we rolled our eyes when the Phil Collins came on. When will Disney learn that bear movies don't work?

Wasn't The Emperor's New Groove rather cheap to produce? It must have made some money, or they would not have released that 2-disc DVD set. It was a very funny movie. Anything with Patrick Warburton usually is.

IHeartPTA · August 21, 2003, 11:10:10 PM

the abandoning of 2d animation is like the abandoning of film to digital, hasn't happened it, but lucas is forcing it down our throats. it's how pt anderson put it from the change in the porn industry, with boogie nights, with the change from 16mm to vhs. takes the joy and spirit out of the word film

Ghostboy · August 21, 2003, 11:26:12 PM

Quote from: Ravi

It definitely looks bad, but it has to compete with Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Jungle Book 2, and the Winnie The Pooh films for the title of Worst Disney Film Ever. I saw the trailer with a friend before Finding Nemo and we rolled our eyes when the Phil Collins came on. When will Disney learn that bear movies don't work?

Wasn't The Emperor's New Groove rather cheap to produce? It must have made some money, or they would not have released that 2-disc DVD set. It was a very funny movie. Anything with Patrick Warburton usually is.

I assume you're not knocking the original Winnie The Pooh -- that rocks. I also thought Hunchback was okay. But man, those sequels they've been coming up with...those are all just pathetic.

I think Emperor's New Groove might have actually been pretty expensive, because it changed so much during production. It was originally called Kingdom Of The Sun and was more dramatic, less comedic. It did a complete 180 several times before it was released.