I like both of these guys. They're both very practical and share one big thing in common, which is, they both hate bullshit. Both of their shows are great too. I'm not sure which I like better. Bill Maher has a more seriousness to him, but I like Stewart's goofiness and he really seems to be more intelligent than he tries to be sometimes. So, does anyone else enjoy these peopleor their shows? and by the way, what's the deal with shortening Maher's show to forty-five minutes and his season only lasted a few months...is someone trying to cancel him? We need him all year long, now politicians have free reign to act like fools without someone catching them, aside from Stewart.
really? all I can think of when I see Maher is bullshit. the last thing we need is more of him...
I'm a big Maher fan, and even caught some tapings of Politically Incorrect before it got canned. When the guy's 'on,' he's fantastic, when he's 'off,' it's a train wreck. He's a much better conversationalist/moderator than a comedian, some of his stand-up/jokes makes me cringe. But in a debate, the guy rocks. Stewart's funny too, but I could never, ever take him seriously. Too much of a goofball.
Quote from: SoNowThenreally? all I can think of when I see Maher is bullshit. the last thing we need is more of him...
What do you find to be bullshit about him?
Maher's a pompous prick. Stewart is a comedic mastermind.
I don't see any competition here.
I strongly prefer Stewart. His intelligence equals Maher's (at the very, very least- probably much more so), plus he's much less smug. Maher can bring off some good things sometimes, but his show is a mess more often than not, and you really do get the feeling that he's a prick.
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm a big Maher fan, and even caught some tapings of Politically Incorrect before it got canned. When the guy's 'on,' he's fantastic, when he's 'off,' it's a train wreck. He's a much better conversationalist/moderator than a comedian, some of his stand-up/jokes makes me cringe. But in a debate, the guy rocks. Stewart's funny too, but I could never, ever take him seriously. Too much of a goofball.
I feel the same way about Maher, and yeah he is a prick too
But you must read Jon Stewart's book Naked Pictures of Famous People if you doubt his genius.
I like them both. Stewart leans more toward the comedic and Maher is more serious.
I forgot that Stewart wrote a book. I'll look for it on my next trip to the library.
Bill Maher is acidic and bitter. John Stewart is amazing, what can I say.
..jon stewart induces laughter
bill maher induces sickness...
carrot top induces death..
i was flipping through the channels one day and saw on of those E! Celebrity shows, and they showed Bill Maher coming out of this club with this women who looked like a porn star. And he was acting like a total asshole. He started to bring up politics to all the people taking pictures of him, and the girl with him kept nodding her head, pretending like she knew what was going on.
He just seems like a real arrogant, hollywood type behind the scenes. I guess that just makes me mad
i like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.
the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it
Quote from: Duck Saucei like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.
the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it
Considering 9/11 and the war in Iraq, I can understand a shift in tone. I wouldn't say the show has gotten serious, but it has been more hard-hitting and sarcastic in many of the jokes.
What don't you like about Stewart's politics?
Did anyone see that hilarious piece on telemarketing the other day?
never heard of maher
Quote from: RaviQuote from: Duck Saucei like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.
the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it
Considering 9/11 and the war in Iraq, I can understand a shift in tone. I wouldn't say the show has gotten serious, but it has been more hard-hitting and sarcastic in many of the jokes.
What don't you like about Stewart's politics?
Did anyone see that hilarious piece on telemarketing the other day?
Yeah, Ed Helms' best work.
who is ed helms?
A correspondant on The Daily Show
ah i see. i dont think ive ever watched a full episode. i should tho. i laugh at the bits and pieces i see. jon stewart = funny.
Tasteless gags
Maher a Hillary tribute
Bill Maher has made another stab at career suicide.
The Bush-bashing comic stunned some of Hollywood's most powerful liberals by joking about Bill Clinton's sexual indiscretions at a benefit honoring Sen. Hillary Clinton.
New York's junior Senator was accepting an Oceana Partners award in Los Angeles last Wednesday for her work on environmental issues. Maher emceed the event, which also honored marine explorer Jean-Michel Cousteau, as well as Ron Howard and his Imagine partner, Brian Glazer.
Among the unamused in the audience were Oceana board member Ted Danson, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kiefer Sutherland, Diane Lane, Josh Brolin, Jake Gyllenhaal and Kirsten Dunst, Norman Lear and Jeffrey Katzenberg.
"Maher began bringing up 'Bill Clinton's [bleep] jobs' - with Hillary sitting right there in front of him eating her chicken," says a witness. "It was just cruel. Ted Danson's wife, Mary Steenburgen, is a longtime friend of the senator's. I can't believe they approved of this."
The former President, although not there, was listed as a co-chairman of the event, which raised $600,000.
Maher also took a shot at Cousteau - sniping: "That must feel great, getting a one-quarter standing ovation." Cousteau walked out of the building shortly afterward.
ABC canceled Maher's show. "Politically Incorrect" after controversial remarks about the 9/11 terrorists. He now has a show on HBO.
Reps for Danson and Clinton had no comment.
After seeing Jon Stewart challenge Tom Daschle last week over supporting DOMA, I feel affirmed in my preference for him over Maher. His common-sense opinion blew Daschle's politically motivated (and in a way understandable) convolutions right out of the water.
Quote from: godardianAfter seeing Jon Stewart challenge Tom Daschle last week over supporting DOMA, I feel affirmed in my preference for him over Maher. His common-sense opinion blew Daschle's politically motivated (and in a way understandable) convolutions right out of the water.
I saw that... Daschle was such a fucking pussy about it too.
I just saw an episode of Real Time with Bill Maher (had the former embassador to NZ (forget her name), some New Republic guy Andrew something, and Rob Schneider, who proved he's actually got a good head on his shoulders). Like the third or so episode I've been able to see; don't get to watch HBO that much. Forgot how much I missed Maher. I loved Politically Incorrect, and this show is even greater, as he's unleashed. It blew anything Jon Stewart does out of the water, IMO. When he read out his "New Rules" sketch, well, I haven't laughed as hard as I did there in a long time.
Quote from: SoNowThenreally? all I can think of when I see Maher is bullshit. the last thing we need is more of him...
i agree to some degree.
I really like them both... but I do watch Real Time every week and I almost never watch The Daily Show...
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaI just saw an episode of Real Time with Bill Maher (had the former embassador to NZ (forget her name), some New Republic guy Andrew something, and Rob Schneider, who proved he's actually got a good head on his shoulders). Like the third or so episode I've been able to see; don't get to watch HBO that much. Forgot how much I missed Maher. I loved Politically Incorrect, and this show is even greater, as he's unleashed. It blew anything Jon Stewart does out of the water, IMO. When he read out his "New Rules" sketch, well, I haven't laughed as hard as I did there in a long time.
Whats Schneiders political leanings?
Quote from: Duck SauceWhats Schneiders political leanings?
I couldn't really make it out from what he said on the show, other than he doesn't really seem to be Republican. But no surprise there, really.
i don't like maher. he's not so much liberal as he is anti-conservative. he's not interested in helping anybody. he also doesn't know when to shut up. he says stuff that any reasonable person would agree with and attracts an audience of sheep for personal gain. i think he's a fuckhead.
I think bill maher pales in comparison to many other political comedians. I remember when Dennis Miller was still somewhat liberal and he went on bill maher's show and just shut bill maher up. Same thing with Chris Rock. But Jon Stewart and his daily show co-hosts can keep up with the best of them. and, aside from his comical humility, he's also blessed with the daily show's format--where he doesn't have to stand for any specific ideology (like The Onion), that he's free to take shots at whoever he thinks deserves it. For example, they had a sketch that made fun of the media's overreaction to Howard Dean, and made fun of those people who label dean as angry, and then next day went straight to making fun of howard dean's loudness...etc. And no one is going to call the show hypocritical because it's an irreverent comedy show that claims no truth or stance. unlike bill maher who loves to preach.
haven't seen the new HBO show, but I hated the old bill maher show's format and its audience. When he moderated the show he was basically pulling a reverse bill o'reilly, where he'd get two smart liberals and one really dumb conservative, and everyone would just take easy shots at the dumbass. Also Bill Maher does that thing where his mic is like two levels louder than all the other guests', so when everyone talks over each other he can pull a joke over all of that and the audience will just cheer for whatever he says (even if they cheer for whoever he was debating against just a minute ago) because he was the most audible one. And his stand up stuff oftentimes seem like updates on bill hicks' stuff.
he's just not as good as most other professional comedians. even the new dennis miller is funnier than him.
thank you. you said pretty much everything that i was going to say if somebody asked me to explain my previous post. i agree completely.
I haven't heard someone say "fuckhead" in a long time, I think the word's been long overdue.
PANIC
Pete, you're a fuckhead....I am new at this....was that good? (haha, no offense I love ya)
Anyway, personally I love Bill Maher, he can be pretty damn hilarious because he's fun to watch and he gesticulates like crazy.
But I love Jon Stewart, love him!
I basically watch Bill Maher to say "hell yeah."
and jon stewart to say "hell yeah!"
Saw another great "Valentine's Day" episode of Maher's show. Or rather, the end of it. When Maher is on, you can't touch him. It's great. Love his "New Rules" segment. Just have to see it to understand; can't really summarize. The show had Billy Baldwin, Jason Alexander, and some black women who I don't recognize. Anyway, just saying.
Jon Stewart to Remain at 'Daily Show'
NEW YORK - Whoever runs for president in 2008 will be covered by Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show."
The star of the Comedy Central mock newscast has re-upped for four more years, the cable channel announced Thursday.
"A lot of people like to get out when their show's still going well," Stewart said. "This gives me the opportunity to beat this thing into the ground."
Besides hosting "The Daily Show," Stewart serves as an executive producer and writer. His contract had been set to expire at the end of this year.
Stewart joined the program in January 1999, taking over for Craig Kilborn. It premiered in 1996.
The original idea of a parody newscast has grown during Stewart's tenure into a leading source of topical satire - and, oddly enough, even a primary news source for some viewers.
So far this year, viewership has averaged 1 million for the weeknight 11 p.m. EST airing - an all-time high for the show.
The program has won several Emmys as well as a Peabody Award for its yearlong "Indecision 2000" political coverage.
On "The Daily Show," Stewart and his "correspondents" skewer both politicians and the media who cover them.
"Of course, it is still eight months to Election Day," he declared on a recent broadcast, "but the campaign is starting to fall into its own natural rhythm: falsely macho Kerry comment, falsely indignant Bush response."
But "The Daily Show" pokes fun at nothing more than itself.
Earlier this week the program cried foul upon learning that the Bush administration had released simulated news features to TV stations that promoted certain Bush policies.
How, wailed "Daily Show" senior media ethicist Rob Corddry, could a little show like his hope to compete with the federal government in producing fake news?
"The Daily Show" will continue to report on the Bush vs. Kerry face-off, going on the road to Boston during the Democratic National Convention in July and covering the Republican National Convention from the show's home base in New York.
I used to watch Politically Incorrect up until it got cancelled. I actually saw the infamous episode in which a firestorm erupted over. He basically said what was the truth. He said "we (the US) were cowards and that we lobbed a few cruise missiles and called it a day" (paraphrased). Anyhow, I like most of Maher's poltical stances. But as a comedian Stewart blows Maher away. Stewart is very witty and quick. He is actually a more intelligent interview than most of the late night network crew. My only qualm with Stewart is his transparent left-leaning rhetoric he spouts sometimes. But who cares really? The show is hilarious.
I don't think TDS is necessarily left leaning. They'll make fun of whoever is in office. And have you seen them making fun of the Democratic candidates? It happens all the time.
just because they make fun of the left doesn't mean it's not left-leaning. I love it because it's left-leaning. its attack towards the right is usually some kinda hypocrisy or some kinda over-the-top backwards neo-conservative ideology, but its attack towards the left is usually just somebody says something that sounds kinda stupid. It's like the Onion, the Onion does make fun of its target audience (them crazy crazy hipsters) but the cruelty level is totally different.
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If anyone cares, Tim Russert let slip the other night on TDS that Jon Stewart will have a child in July, 9 months after pal Conan O'Brien had a daughter.
Quote from: SleuthIf anyone cares, Tim Russert let slip the other night on TDS that Jon Stewart will have a child in July, 9 months after pal Conan O'Brien had a daughter.
Are you suggesting that Conan impregnated Jon Stewart right after his daughter was born?
Jon Stewart: Be heroes
WILLIAMSBURG, Virginia (AP) -- Jon Stewart, host of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show," told graduates at his alma mater they have a chance to become the new greatest generation by winning the war on terrorism.
"Even if you don't, you won't have trouble surpassing my generation," he told the 2,033 graduates at the College of William and Mary. "If you end up getting your picture taken next to a naked pile of enemy prisoners and don't give the thumbs up, you outdid us."
Stewart told the graduates their help is needed in "the real world."
"I know we were supposed to bequeath to the next generation a world better than the one we were handed, so sorry," he said. "But here's the good news, you fix this thing, you're the new greatest generation, people.
Stewart, a 1984 W&M graduate, got lots of laughs and an honorary doctorate Sunday from the school where he confessed he was a mediocre student.
"What piece of wisdom can I impart to you about my journey that will somehow ease your transition from college back to your parents' basement?" he asked.
With Stewart as the host, "The Daily Show" has won several Emmys and a Peabody Award. Using the format of a newscast, the comedy show skewers not only politicians, but the reporters who cover them.
Sounds like a speech almost as good as Kurt Vonnegut's. Almost.
I got a chance to see part of that speech on C-SPAN a couple weeks ago. Good stuff. Also, Stewart just gave a great interview (as he always does) on Larry King Live. It'll probably rerun sometime in the next week, but I'm not exactly sure how CNN's schedule works.
Stewart.
I perfer Stewart
Stewart, hands down.
I get the feeling this should be a poll. But whatever.
I get the feeling this shouldn't be a contest. But whatever.
stewart takes on blitzer (http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/celeb/celeb_9004.html) it was really good, but you know, blitzer's kinda lightweight. I kinda wish bill o'reilly or some actual conservatives were there.
transcript of Jon Stewart on Crossfire (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html)
Wow :lol:
Like a trainwreck. Wow, indeed. Don't know what to make of it. Must've been great for him having to sit through that. And by great I mean like a root canal.
Part of what makes Stewart great is this constant tongue-in-cheek thing he does in interviews where if you didn't know any better, everything he says sounds serious. Deadpan. My opinion of Stewart has definitely changed for the better since my initial post in this thread. He may "only" do a comedy show, but he's capable of a lot more.
stewart came out great in that transcript. i must be missing sumthing..
He came out great to me, too. My point was, I guess, that it must not have been very pleasant to deal with it. He obviously has a disdain for the show, and they were really coming at him, so he had to be on his toes the whole time.
"I thought Lincoln was good."
Yes, that was excellent. A little less ironic that some of his other interviews, though.
And Tucker Carlson is such a little weasel.
"You know what's interesting, though? You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."
stewart is on the cover of the new rolling stone if this hasnt been mentioned already.
http://www.contemporaryinsanity.org/video/
there's video
Jon Stewart Bitchslaps CNN's 'Crossfire' Show
10.15.2004 6:43 PM EDT
In what could well be the strangest and most refreshing media moment of the election season, "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart turned up on a live broadcast of CNN's "Crossfire" Friday and accused the mainstream media — and his hosts in particular — of being soft and failing to do their duty as journalists to keep politicians and the political process honest.
Reaching well outside his usual youthful "Daily Show" demo, Stewart took to "Crossfire" to promote his new book, "America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction" (see "Jon Stewart Writes A History Textbook That — At Last! — Features Nudity"), but instead of pushing the tome, Stewart used his time to verbally slap the network and the media for being "dishonest" and "doing a disservice" to the American public. After co-host Tucker Carlson suggested that Stewart went easy on Senator John Kerry when the candidate was a guest on "The Daily Show," Stewart unloaded on "Crossfire," calling hosts Carlson and Paul Begala "partisan hacks" and chiding them for not raising the level of discourse on their show beyond sloganeering.
"What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery," Stewart said. "You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.
"I watch your show every day, and it kills me. It's so painful to watch," Stewart added as it became apparent that the comedian was not joking. He went on to hammer the network, and the media in general, for its coverage of the presidential debates. Stewart said it was a disservice to viewers to immediately seek reaction from campaign insiders and presidential cheerleaders following the debates, noting that the debates' famed "Spin Alley" should be called "Deception Lane."
"The thing is, we need your help," Stewart said. "Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations and we're left out there to mow our lawns."
While the audience seemed to be behind Stewart, Begala and Carlson were both taken aback. The hosts tried to feed Stewart set-up lines hoping to draw him into a more light-hearted shtick, but Stewart stayed on point and hammered away at the show, the hosts, and the state of political journalism. Carlson grew increasingly frustrated, at first noting that the segment wasn't "funny," and later verbally sparring with the comedian.
"You're not very much fun," Carlson said. "Do you like lecture people like this, or do you come over to their house and sit and lecture them; they're not doing the right thing, that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?"
"If I think they are," Stewart retorted.
The conversation reached its most heated moment when Carlson said to Stewart, "I do think you're more fun on your show," to which Stewart replied, "You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."
"That went great," Stewart could be heard sarcastically saying as the show went off the air (a transcript of the show is available on CNN.com).
In an era when the media is increasingly fragmented and viewers can surround themselves with programming that falls right in line with their own views, be they on the right or the left, Stewart's blast seemed especially on point. It seems fitting that the tirade came on a day when much of the media attention focused on the presidential race was directed at the mention of Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter during the last presidential debate, as opposed to the issues addressed at that debate.
—Robert Mancini
Jon Stewart's 'America' Named Book of Year
NEW YORK - Jon Stewart's "America (The Book)," the television commentator's million-selling riff on politics and other matters of satire, has been named Book of the Year by Publishers Weekly, the industry trade magazine.
In announcing the award Monday, Publishers Weekly called the book "a serious critique of the two-party system, the corporations that finance it and the 'spineless cowards in the press' who 'aggressively print allegation and rumor independent of accuracy and fairness.'"
Stewart's book was released in September and immediately topped best-seller lists even as Wal-Mart declined to stock the book, citing a page featuring the faces of the nine Supreme Court justices superimposed over naked bodies. The page facing the nude photos has cutouts of the justices' robes, complete with a caption asking readers to "restore their dignity by matching each justice with his or her respective robe."
Bought the book this weekend for 50% off at Borders (sorry, the sale ended Monday) and I can't wait to start reading it.
Great great book. :-D
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/culture/archives/000756.html
CNN's Crossfire Struck Down by Friendly Fire
January 6, 2005 10:40 AM
The 22 year-old debate program aired on CNN, "Crossfire," will be reduced to a segment within another program according to Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post.
After losing bow-tie wearing oddball Tucker Carlson to MSNBC, CNN's executives seem to have realized that the program offered no substantive material aside from a constant stream of rhetoric and partisan bickering.
Carlson, a supposedly conservative pundit and former writer for the Weekly Standard was wooed by MSNBC with a 9 p.m. time slot for his own show.
As for the other hosts of "Crossfire," it appears that they will be dwindling in their participation on CNN as well. Robert Novak, who will be known only as a Bush apologist in his final years will not only be losing "Crossfire" but his CNN program "Capital Gang" as well. Paul Begala and James Carville, the left-beloved pundits derived from the Clinton administration, will most certainly remain present on the network as they represent the views of a large portion of CNN's viewership.
Stephen Colbert was just on Al Franken.
Here (http://xixax.com/files/jb/colbertfranken.mp3)'s the audio.
The whole thing is about 33 minutes (15 mb) from 3 segments.
Sorry for the interference near the end (it's AM radio).
Anybody seen the new HBO Special "Bill Maher: I'm Swiss"?
I think this guy is awsome... hilarious and although he sometimes goes too far and talks bullshit, he is usually right
I was gonna rain on your thanksgiving to tell you that bill maher is not awesome when I realized that was basically what half of this thread was about. carry on.
Dont care. Just saying my opinion.
That standup show is excellent.
Did anyone catch Bill O' Reilly on the Dail Show tonight?
Venom was spat!
Bill: You joke about things like hurricane Katrina.
Jon: Yes. I admit it.
Bill: You admit it! Listen everyone!
Jon: We do add insult to injury.
Bill: Yes.
Jon: You add injury.
So I was down in New Orleans trying to do my part, right, and I came across this fat, black woman. Poor people are fat 'cause they're malnourished so they float easier too. So I said, look, just lay down in the water, everything will be cool. Help me out, maybe you'll get your picture in the paper, and on the teevee (black people love seeing themselves on teevee). Where'm I going? Grocery store. See? I got these food stamps here. You want? I held them out in front of her head, and damn if I didn't think I was commandeering a motor boat.
Quote from: walruSDid anyone catch Bill O' Reilly on the Dail Show tonight?
Venom was spat!
Bill: You joke about things like hurricane Katrina.
Jon: Yes. I admit it.
Bill: You admit it! Listen everyone!
Jon: We do add insult to injury.
Bill: Yes.
Jon: You add injury.
Here. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml)
Pretty funny. My favorite part is, "When are ya gonna start doin' that?"
Did anyone see astronaut Mike Mullane on the Daily Show a day or two ago? I didn't see it, but apparently he was on cause Jon Stewart liked his book. He's my aunt's brother. No blood relation to me, but I thought I'd mention it.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 15, 2006, 01:06:25 PM
Did anyone see astronaut Mike Mullane on the Daily Show a day or two ago? I didn't see it, but apparently he was on cause Jon Stewart liked his book. He's my aunt's brother. No blood relation to me, but I thought I'd mention it.
Jon made a pretty funny joke after he asked Mullane if flying into space ever became routine. Mullane said he had gone up on the shuttle three times: the first time, he was terrified; the second time, he was terrified; and the third time, he was terrified. To which Jon responded, "But from what I hear, the
fourth time is mind-numbing drudgery."
That's all I remember from the interview.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 15, 2006, 01:06:25 PM
Did anyone see astronaut Mike Mullane on the Daily Show a day or two ago? I didn't see it, but apparently he was on cause Jon Stewart liked his book. He's my aunt's brother. No blood relation to me, but I thought I'd mention it.
whoa, you know a real life astronaut? That's so cool. Do you hang out with him a lot?
I had a dream that an astronaut came to my work to look for me when I wasn't there, I was running all over asking everyone I knew if he/she had seen an astronaut.
He's from New Mexico, so I haven't seen him much... maybe three or four times total. I did pick him up from the airport once. He's a pretty unique guy, he has a kind of unending energy and enthusiasm (which I'm sure was obvious in the interview)... if he were 40 years younger he'd probably be on ritalin.
so cool. astronauts...they're like the pinnacle of humans 'cause they have to be super smart and super strong.
Quote from: pete on February 15, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
so cool. astronauts...they're like the pinnacle of humans 'cause they have to be super smart and super strong.
Also, they've been in outerspace and therefore are imbedded with the secrets of the universe.
Quote from: pete on February 15, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
so cool. astronauts...they're like the pinnacle of humans 'cause they have to be super smart and super strong.
but not super hot ..yet :ponder:
Quote from: Pubrick on February 16, 2006, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: pete on February 15, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
so cool. astronauts...they're like the pinnacle of humans 'cause they have to be super smart and super strong.
but not super hot ..yet :ponder:
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Lets see an astronaut eat a cheeseburger.
Quote from: Hedwig on October 19, 2005, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: walruSDid anyone catch Bill O' Reilly on the Dail Show tonight?
Venom was spat!
Bill: You joke about things like hurricane Katrina.
Jon: Yes. I admit it.
Bill: You admit it! Listen everyone!
Jon: We do add insult to injury.
Bill: Yes.
Jon: You add injury.
Here. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml)
Pretty funny. My favorite part is, "When are ya gonna start doin' that?"
i like the awkwardness at the end. "...i'm gonna hold up the book now."
"I Don't know but i've been told...
Eskimo Vagina is forbidden by Allah"
I couldn't find a striahgt Daily Show thread but I wanted to say that the JFK Walkthon thing made me laugh more than anything on the show has in a good three months.
I think I missed that. I don't go out of my way anymore to catch the Daily Show like I do the Colbert Report. Still catch it 3/4 of the time though.
god that snideness is annoying. I hate it that there is this whole class of people in America who think they're in the only people in the world in possession of irony. I just caught a clip of lewis black playing cute with Japan. and then I saw the angry old dude at the walkathon thing. this illusion that they're the only people in the world who "get it" gives them some sort of self-importance. these are the folks that give liberals a bad name, because they belong to the same class as they people that they're mocking, but they believe that they're entitled to it just because they can get their laughingstocks to say ridiculous things. their sense of humor isn't empowering, like chappelle's, because their anger lacks insight. it's just people shaking their heads and politicians and smirking at each other. it's people who render themselves powerless by labelling tragedies as the status quo and then not doing anything about it. that's what the underdogs do, but there is this entire class people victimizing themselves just so they can appear righteous when they make their snide jokes. it's like rappers playing up how hard they've had or o'reilly singing about his blue collar background. that's what jon stewart and his audience (maybe especially his audience) are doing nightly. they are making the rest of us as passive as the phony experts say TV would make us.
I don't think I see that so much...
I haven't seen an episode in a while for lack of cable, but I find the show to have a great staff of writers, and they do pull off sarcasm and dry wit with ease, it's their forte. Maybe I'm missing what insight they lack in the show, because I find it to be quite solid and very well timed.
What Pete seems to be forgetting is that The Daily Show is, above all else, a comedy show, whose sole mission is to produce comedy. All those other expectations were largely placed upon them by outside forces, and to some extent they've adapted to conform to those expectations (more in the interviews with the guests than in any of the other segments, which remain almost entirely farcical), but they're not seriously out to change the world. They're out to make fun of it, which they do, impressively and extensively.
Honestly, when people are expecting a comedy show to be a vehicle for political activism, it means we're either expecting far too much from our comedy shows or far too little from our politics.
Quote from: Walrus on July 16, 2006, 02:07:46 AM
I don't think I see that so much...
I haven't seen an episode in a while for lack of cable, but I find the show to have a great staff of writers, and they do pull off sarcasm and dry wit with ease, it's their forte. Maybe I'm missing what insight they lack in the show, because I find it to be quite solid and very well timed.
yes, but sarcasm and snideness get old after a while.
btw dude, what's this thing you've got in your signature? it's awesome. it's like, we can see what songs you're listening to at EVERY SECOND of every hour of every day of your life. i especially love when it doesn't load and it's just a big empty box beneath your posts. that's great! best sig ever. :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: polkablues on July 16, 2006, 03:00:22 AM
What Pete seems to be forgetting is that The Daily Show is, above all else, a comedy show, whose sole mission is to produce comedy. All those other expectations were largely placed upon them by outside forces, and to some extent they've adapted to conform to those expectations (more in the interviews with the guests than in any of the other segments, which remain almost entirely farcical), but they're not seriously out to change the world. They're out to make fun of it, which they do, impressively and extensively.
Honestly, when people are expecting a comedy show to be a vehicle for political activism, it means we're either expecting far too much from our comedy shows or far too little from our politics.
no, obviously I know it's a comedy show on comedy central, and that's the shield they always hide behind everytime something fails. but their brand of comedy is only funny if you're one of "them", who thinks that they're in sole possession of irony in the world. it's the same schtick--show someone saying something, cut him off, laugh, then maybe say something "black" afterwards, for a long while now. I used to be into it, because it was easy to be lazy and think that they have this righteous, irreverent rage, and think that they make fun of "everybody." but once I started thinking, once I started to become a bit more informed, and especially after I graduated when I started working with people who are actually victimized by the government, the media, and the big corporations, I realize most of what they say is just not that funny, because they can't go deeper than holding a serious face and then imitating their subjects, or maybe utilizing clever editing to get their subjects to say something "outrageous."
at the risk of getting pretentious, I don't think comedy is as simple as punchline then laughter. we depend on it for more than that, ultimately, like any other medium, we seek satisfaction from it. and when it's just people with straight faces uttering something shocking, that has nothing to do with their lives and never will, it's shallow and gets tiring after a while. and occassionally, when they don't know when to stop ('cause how could they, they're just a bunch of rich white people, the only difference between them and the crass ones that they make fun of is they're culturally hipper), they become offensive as well. a comedian, like a musician or just anybody in the world really who is trying to create anything, is most effective when his delivery matches his substance. I mean isn't that why Richard Pryor is more potent than Dave Attel? Dave Attel's got like one punchline every 15 seconds, and Pryor sometimes just tells a story or does a character for half an hour. But Pryor's got truthfulness on his side.
Quote from: Hedwig on July 16, 2006, 05:36:35 AM
yes, but sarcasm and snideness get old after a while.
Quote from: Hedwig on July 16, 2006, 05:36:35 AMbtw dude, what's this thing you've got in your signature? it's awesome. it's like, we can see what songs you're listening to at EVERY SECOND of every hour of every day of your life. i especially love when it doesn't load and it's just a big empty box beneath your posts. that's great! best sig ever. :yabbse-thumbup:
is that juxt intentional? if so, :yabbse-thumbup:
So Bill Gates was on last night. Pretty lame interview. The best part is when he scurries off stage at the end.
http://www.devilducky.com/media/57181/ (http://www.devilducky.com/media/57181/)
Quote from: squints on January 30, 2007, 03:46:09 PM
So Bill Gates was on last night. Pretty lame interview. The best part is when he scurries off stage at the end.
http://www.devilducky.com/media/57181/ (http://www.devilducky.com/media/57181/)
ha yeah what was up with that? the questions were so stupid.
they could've at least talked about all the political stuff that gates was involved with like the aids foundation and whatnot...
The Rumble in the Air-Conditioned Auditorium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P5tIxg4VDg&feature=youtu.be)
Trevor Noah will be the new host of The Daily Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-urVIOVJ9w
He seems a little stiff. But apparently the writing staff is staying on, so I'm sure they can make it work somehow.
Side note: I need to watch The Daily Show more often. Even in this one clip I was able to identify an Elliott Kalan joke, thanks to my Flophouse listening. (Mousetrap.)
This is a bit better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkaaEqbor5U
Here's some good stuff of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozB2Rppw5eU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjMzYGtWS3s
I like the decision. He's clearly a bright guy with a point of view and huge upside potential. And it's just a flat-out more interesting choice than if they had gone with someone more established. I'm intrigued to see how much the show will feel like Jon Stewart's Daily Show with a guest host, and how much his own sensibilities will shape the new version.
I only know of him from one brief radio interview, but I liked him a lot. Seems to have come out of nowhere, I haven't watched The Daily Show in years but this will definitely encourage me to check it out again. You can become closer acquainted with him through his one hour special on Netflix (http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70279510)
Any opinions of Trevor Noah's performance so far? I'm on the fence.
There's something about his hyper-enunciation that is not necessarily suited for this type of delivery. Some adjustments may be required. That's just the way he talks, though, so what can you do?
The writing is as strong as ever, but it kinda sounds like they're still writing for Jon Stewart. I don't know.
He seems delighted and entertained by the material, so that helps. But they'll need to find things for him to do that Jon Stewart couldn't do, right?
I think he's doing fine, but it might take a while before the writers figure out what his distinctive comedic voice is, because like you said, right now it feels like he's reading off of Jon Stewart's cue cards. That'll come with time. I feel like it took Stewart a few years to become JON STEWART after taking over the show.
I'm really liking the current crop of correspondents, too. Especially Roy Wood Jr.