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Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: filmcritic on June 18, 2003, 09:12:43 PM
There are mostly two critic shows that are a little similar. Which one do you like the best, "Ebert & Roeper" or "Hot Ticket"? Personally, I think "Ebert & Roeper" is a much more informative and better show. Both of the critics are really good and they see much more movies than "Hot Ticket". "Hot Ticket" is entertaining but the critics don't know what they're talking about, particularly Joyce Kulhawik. She actually hated Magnolia!!!! :shock:  And she also hated "The Hours" and said that Nicole Kidman gave the worst performance of the year even though she won the Oscar!!! :shock: But it is rather entertaining so I would call it entertaining garbage. But "Ebert & Roeper" is very insightful and informative.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Sleuth on June 18, 2003, 09:43:09 PM
EBERT AND ROEPER of course
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: ©brad on June 19, 2003, 12:34:10 AM
um, what was wrong with the ebert thread like two threads up? do we have to start new threads of every little topic-- this is why fucking natural resources are scarce, cuz muther fuckers like u start meaningless new threads when u coulda just recycled the other ebert thread. fuck! do u even know about global warming? do u know what is happening right now on the planet? like there's a hole in the sky and its causing all this wack shit to happen? ppl have all these suvs (i drive one) and we're using too much fuel and we have to kill ppl in other countries to get more fuel and its all b/c we never think or do anything right. so i encourage u to recycle these old threads and quit wasting new ones! quit wasting my time! thank u.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: filmcritic on June 19, 2003, 12:49:51 AM
Shut up! You just need a chill pill and a bar of soap to wash that mouth out! Then maybe I can listen to your junk! But don't worry, there are doctors who can help you through your anger management situation. :lol:
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: sexterossa on June 19, 2003, 01:22:42 AM
what is there really to discuss? Ebert obviously.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: godardian on June 19, 2003, 02:08:16 AM
Ugh. This is the choice we're left with? They're both fairly vile, in my opinion. I choose Susan Sontag's essays on Godard, Bergman, and "A Century of Cinema" over cumulatively all television film reviewing (what they do is not criticism, really- there are a great many reviewers running around, but very few real critics, not anymore).
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Duck Sauce on June 19, 2003, 12:26:40 PM
This thread does not impress me
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Keener on June 19, 2003, 12:57:43 PM
I don't watch critic shows because our stations air them at very odd hours late at night. Also, I find myself loving alot of movies they hate. For example: The Million Dollar Hotel. One of my favorite movies period and Ebert and Roeper both hated it.

Quote from: EbertMillion Dollar Hotel is a mess...
Quote from: Roeper...total disaster. Worst movie this year so far!

Screw you guys !
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Ravi on June 19, 2003, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: KeenerI don't watch critic shows because our stations air them at very odd hours late at night. Also, I find myself loving alot of movies they hate. For example: The Million Dollar Hotel. One of my favorite movies period and Ebert and Roeper both hated it.

Quote from: EbertMillion Dollar Hotel is a mess...
Quote from: Roeper...total disaster. Worst movie this year so far!

Screw you guys !

Well, when it comes down to it, a critic's opinion is just that, an opinion.  It's just that I would rather go to Ebert for his opinions on movies than some guy off the street.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Keener on June 19, 2003, 01:35:08 PM
I usually go by my forum because the people there are movie lovers and we have similar tastes. I find it to be best if you get your reviews from people who typically like what you like. Such is not the case with Roger Ebert, though I do respect his film knowledge.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: polkablues on June 19, 2003, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: KeenerI don't watch critic shows because our stations air them at very odd hours late at night. Also, I find myself loving alot of movies they hate. For example: The Million Dollar Hotel. One of my favorite movies period and Ebert and Roeper both hated it.

Quote from: EbertMillion Dollar Hotel is a mess...
Quote from: Roeper...total disaster. Worst movie this year so far!

Screw you guys !

Wow.... I can see Roeper saying that; Roeper's a dumbass.  But Ebert...?

Anyway, sticking to the original thread point, I wouldn't watch "Hot Ticket" if they had a gun to my balls.  Ebert and Roeper at least I can sit through.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 19, 2003, 02:38:05 PM
Ebert and Roeper of course. I really don't mind Roeper, but I disagree with him more than Ebert and love Ebert. Roeper, though, seems most insightful on his reasons for disliking a film than recommending any. And to back their opinion up on Million Dollar Hotel, I also hated the film. The movie was very ridiculous and consisted more of goofball oddities standing around showing how they were ridiculous than anything. Insight into the murder investigation or their problems was really nonexistent. It was all just a rather odd ball showing of quircks and what not.

~rougerum
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: dufresne on June 19, 2003, 03:22:49 PM
Ebert and Roeper...although i'd prefer any show to Hot Ticket.
Title: Re: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Rudie Obias on June 19, 2003, 05:29:43 PM
neither.  i hate richard roeper and i hate lenard maltin and joyce kulhawik.  

i liked siskle and ebert back in the day but since siskle died i don't trust any critics.  i really liked his insight on film.  ebert is ok but my money was always on gene siskle.  i trust my gut and the opinions of my friends to any fuckin' critic out there.  they're all idiots!!
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: modage on June 19, 2003, 05:33:21 PM
although you may not agree with them, i doubt that they're "idiots".  in fact, i bet any one of them has seen more movies than you AND your friends combined.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Rudie Obias on June 19, 2003, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: themodernage02although you may not agree with them, i doubt that they're "idiots".

you're probably right but i also didn't think A BEAUTIFUL MIND and CHICAGO we're the best films of the past 2 years either.

Quote from: themodernage02in fact, i bet any one of them has seen more movies than you AND your friends combined.

they've obviously seen more movies than my friends and i because they're much older than us.  we're in our early 20s.  so logistically speaking, it would impossible for a 23 year-old to see as many movies as a 57 year-old.  especially if they're jobs are consist of watching and writing about movies, whereinas my job is to serve coffee and sell thrift clothing to people.  so you're last comment was completely unfounded and ridiculous!
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: modage on June 19, 2003, 06:29:39 PM
and sarcastic!
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Rudie Obias on June 19, 2003, 08:01:33 PM
sorry, hard to tell while reading a message board post
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: MrBurgerKing on June 19, 2003, 08:26:28 PM
Let me tell you a little autobiographical story. I was at the mall, sitting down eating "Boardwalk Fries" (large boardwalk fries with a water.. hey, I'm on a diet), and I was wearing my black baret. So, I was eating those fries and observing my surroundings. Suddenly, to my surprise, I saw a guy walking by with the exact same brand of black baret that I had on. He was wearing the same thing that I was! I immediately took off my own baret and put it in my pocket. Now that I think of it, I don't know why I did it. Actually, I know exactly why I did it. I heard some prick around me say these exact words: "man, look at those two french pricks wearing barets.. walking around like they're cool." Or maybe that was in my head.

Perhaps I should just wear it and not listen to outside comments. If Calvin Klein told me I had bad taste wearing that baret, I'd spit on his face and tell him he has bad taste for telling me what to wear.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: MacGuffin on June 19, 2003, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: MrBurgerKing(large boardwalk fries with a water.. hey, I'm on a diet)

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Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: MrBurgerKing on June 19, 2003, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: MrBurgerKing(large boardwalk fries with a water.. hey, I'm on a diet)

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I don't know about that. Anyone else think Jared has always been a 140 pound man? It's a scandal. I think Subway just wanted to show people that their food is healthy, so they made up this fake "success" story. Jared is the epitome of all that is wrong in modern fast food. Does Subway expect overweight women to eat there? (because let's face it, women tend to be the primary dieters of this country. Men diet too, yeah, but that's because their wives force them to. Or their doctors.) Actually, my case is different. I'm dieting because of a situation I was in a while back. I was at the movie theater, watching Finding Nemo for the third time, and I looked around me (think Amelie). What I saw was shocking: no children, no fathers taking their kids out, no beautiful teenage couples making out, no juicy prick making faces at the screen, nobody but overweight college males. Overweight curly haired college males. I just knew after the movie was done, they'd go home on the internet and post cuss words on aint it cool news. I'm not claiming superiority though, as I knew I'd come home and go on Xixax.com, but the image sunk into my brain, and it was a terrible feeling. The feeling that we're a theater full of overweight (in my case, slightly overweight) pathetic losers watching Finding Nemo. I thought to myself "man, I'd love to be the only person not overweight in this theater right now." That's when my diet began. Anyway, Jared is really the scum of the earth. If he is telling the truth then great, good for him. But trying to equate weight loss with Subway? Shame on Jared. If you want to lose weight, forget about fast food and start eating some boardwalk fries with water. Oh god, now I'm starting to sound like a cross between Oliver Stone and Ronald McDonald... and Dave Thomas.. and MacMuffin. Yep, I'm single
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: SoNowThen on June 20, 2003, 09:20:39 AM
MrBurgerKing, have you seen the South Park with Jared? One of the funniest ever. You should check it out...
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Duck Sauce on June 20, 2003, 11:47:13 AM
Quote from: rudieob
you're probably right but i also didn't think A BEAUTIFUL MIND and CHICAGO we're the best films of the past 2 years either.


Isnt it strange how there are like no mainstream film reviewers who thought Punch Drunk Love and Adaptation were the best of 2002?
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: pete on July 11, 2003, 12:44:37 AM
I am ashamed of Joyce Kulhaywik.  She used to be on TV all the time here in Boston when she was a petty reporter.  She still does some of that shite.  I saw her at the press screening of The Hot Chick last winter along with all the other petty local celebrities.  And in the end when everyone was clapping I asked her if she thought the film was as great as Gladiator.  But the cheering was too loud so she didn't hear me the two times I said it, and I just gave up.
Remember that time she was on Ebert and she said Gladiator was like the best film ever that triumphed on every level in every aspect, and Ebert basically just held his head in disbelief?
I think the thing that sets Ebert apart from all the other tv critics is that he always backs up his opinions with pretty valid arguments, so even if you disagree with him you can appreciate his perspective and maybe even some insights.  You can kind of do that with Roeper but he really hasn't seen enough movies to know where it all begins.
Maltin is crazy with the animation stuff, he knows his shit, even Ebert goes to Maltin for the animation tidbits, and he's certainly seen enough (though we all know he's got like a staff of 300 people who write his anthologies), but somehow he still insists on giving at least one or two film of the week the same praises his gives to something like, let's say, Taxi Driver.  You gotta ration them hyperboles dude, big words all the time only makes you lose credibility.

One thing I like about Ebert above most other critics is that he's very good with linking movies--if he something he likes, he'll recommend more films (and mostly obscure, overlooked films) that he thinks the audience might also enjoy, but if he dislikes something, he'll first quote Goddard ("the best way to criticize a film is to make another film") then he'll recommend films he thinks that are better than this one.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Pubrick on July 11, 2003, 07:56:31 AM
Quote from: petebut somehow he still insists on giving at least one or two film of the week the same praises his gives to something like, let's say, Taxi Driver.  You gotta ration them hyperboles dude, big words all the time only makes you lose credibility.
were u talking about maltin then? cos he didn't like taxi driver. but if ur talking about ebert, well, regardless of who ur talking about really.. it reminds me of when Homer became a food critic and said everything was ekzellent, and made everyone fat and the other critics told him to stop liking everything. the way i feel about that is, maybe there is a lot of great food, and if sumone goes out and tries at least one of those meals cos of the great review then it's all good in the hood.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: pete on July 11, 2003, 10:16:01 AM
sorry, I didn't remember whether or not Maltin actually liked Taxi Driver, I was just making a point that, as you've illustrated better with your Homer example, he's like that.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: filmcritic on August 08, 2003, 09:52:13 PM
Quote from: KeenerI don't watch critic shows because our stations air them at very odd hours late at night.

Well, this is true. Where I live "Ebert & Roeper comes on at 2:30 in the morning and "Hot Ticket" comes on at 1:30. But I can understand that. These shows are strictly for people who want to hear about the movies. I wouldn't expect either of them to win a bunch of Emmy's. Although "Siskel & Ebert" did when it was first on the air.
Title: Ebert & Roeper or Hot Ticket
Post by: Ravi on August 09, 2003, 07:47:18 PM
Quote from: filmcritic
Quote from: KeenerI don't watch critic shows because our stations air them at very odd hours late at night.

Well, this is true. Where I live "Ebert & Roeper comes on at 2:30 in the morning and "Hot Ticket" comes on at 1:30. But I can understand that. These shows are strictly for people who want to hear about the movies. I wouldn't expect either of them to win a bunch of Emmy's. Although "Siskel & Ebert" did when it was first on the air.

I've caught Hot Ticket a few times, on a Saturday evening.  Ebert and Roeper airs here at somewhere between 10:45 and 11:15 on Sunday nights.  It occasionally shifts around, so I often find myself tuning into the closing credits or watching 30 minutes of the crappy local show that precedes E&R.