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Quote from: polkablues on August 22, 2017, 07:44:39 PMQuote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 22, 2017, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Fernando on August 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PMAlso they have Bran there who could explain everything!Bran is not Bran, he is the three-eyed raven. The default position of the three-eyed raven is that he rarely gets directly involved. The exceptions are what make him interesting. And they need to remain that — exceptions. If Bran considers himself more of an interventionist, he probably sees that he needs to let events unfold to a certain point for things to line up properly. He and the show are both ahead of us.I think it's also an important point that Bran (3ER), doesn't really know everything. He's capable of knowing everything, but Bran's training in the ways of three-eyed ravenry was massively truncated, and he's still figuring out how the hell it all works. At best, he can pick out bits and pieces from the overwhelming agglomerate of information that's flowing through him.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 22, 2017, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Fernando on August 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PMAlso they have Bran there who could explain everything!Bran is not Bran, he is the three-eyed raven. The default position of the three-eyed raven is that he rarely gets directly involved. The exceptions are what make him interesting. And they need to remain that — exceptions. If Bran considers himself more of an interventionist, he probably sees that he needs to let events unfold to a certain point for things to line up properly. He and the show are both ahead of us.
Quote from: Fernando on August 22, 2017, 05:25:39 PMAlso they have Bran there who could explain everything!
Quote"We were aware that timing was getting a little hazy. We've got Gendry running back, ravens flying a certain distance, dragons having to fly back a certain distance...In terms of the emotional experience, [Jon and company] sort of spent one dark night on the island in terms of storytelling moments. We tried to hedge it a little bit with the eternal twilight up there north of The Wall. I think there was some effort to fudge the timeline a little bit by not declaring exactly how long we were there. I think that worked for some people, for other people it didn't. They seemed to be very concerned about how fast a raven can fly but there's a thing called plausible impossibilities, which is what you try to achieve, rather than impossible plausibilities. So I think we were straining plausibility a little bit, but I hope the story's momentum carries over some of that stuff. It's cool that the show is so important to so many people that it's being scrutinized so thoroughly. If the show was struggling, I'd be worried about those concerns, but the show seems to be doing pretty well so it's OK to have people with those concerns."
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 22, 2017, 04:32:15 PMSo many Game of Thrones reviews and podcasts are mostly just evaluating what's good and what's bad about an episode. If you spend all your time doing that, you just don't have time to analyze much of anything. Evaluation and analysis are two very different things. But this is what GoT has done. It's spawned an industry of evaluators and nitpickers.
Quote from: Kal on August 22, 2017, 10:38:29 PM...I was totally immersed in the story and the journey and didn't give two fucks about some spotty dialogue or a badly directed sequence. It's a marathon and not a sprint. GoT is about enjoying the ride, being patient, and for all of us who got immersed in the story.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 23, 2017, 12:15:18 AMWe are going to get two different endings to this story. (Assuming, you know, those books get written.)
Quote from: Kal on August 23, 2017, 09:59:56 AMI am hoping that everyone is aligned enough so that doesn't happen though. It would suck to have to very different endings, especially knowing the TV one will come first and the book one would probably end up being better. It's hard to imagine a better ending after you have already seen it (as long as the TV ending doesn't suck.)
QuoteHow independent are the showrunners from you? Simply put: could they save the life of a character you've decided to kill? Or could they kill someone who's still alive in your books?""They are independent. They can do whatever they want. I don't have any power... any contractual right to [stop them]. I consult with them. I talk to them on a regular basis. Of course, years ago, we had a series of very long meetings, where I told them some of the big twists and turns and huge events that were coming in the last few books. So they've been touching [on] some of these, and doing some of the reveals, but they have also been departing in various ways.The biggest one is one that you just mentioned: probably right now, right as we talk, there are close to 20 characters who are dead on the show, who are still alive in the books. Some of them are very minor characters, but also there are major characters, like Rickon Stark, Barristan Selmy, Myrcella Baratheon. All of them — dead on the show, but alive in the books.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 20, 2017, 11:08:37 PMSansa confided in Littlefinger. People are going to hate that. But did she actually make a mistake? Watch that scene carefully — she actually gets a lot of information out of him. Littlefinger basically reveals that he wants Arya dead, and that Brienne might be the one to do it. So what does Sansa do? She immediately sends Brienne away so Littlefinger's plan cannot be executed.
Quote from: polkablues on August 28, 2017, 01:41:15 AMI laughed out loud at the Greyjoy sailor dude kneeing Theon in the groin to no effect, and I'm still not sure if that moment was brilliant or moronic.
Quote from: Sleepless on August 28, 2017, 09:06:24 AMMight as well throw my hat in the ring for a prediction on how this all turns out... Cerei becomes increasingly irrelevant, a great ironic ending would be King's Landing overtaken by winter, she dies clinging on to the iron throne, but with none of the power it once represented. Meanwhile, Jon and Dany rule as leaders of the people from Winterfell, the new capital of what survives of Westeros. Because the North is the only place that has been preparing for the coming winter. Of course, I'm also anticipating massive fallout from Dany once Jon's true parentage is revealed - without proof, she'll assume it's a plot to usurp her claim to the throne.
Quote from: Sleepless on August 28, 2017, 09:06:24 AMBut a lot of what I've noticed does seem to be hype-y for click's sake. People who write stuff for web clicks have been told that GOT gets clicks, so there's apparently a lot of crap out there. Either OMG! hyperbole or terminally unsatisfied nitpicking.