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Title: untraceable
Post by: pete on December 31, 2007, 12:05:48 AM
I read a synopsis that was on IMDB.  it sounded so dumb I youtubed the trailer.
SO DUMB.  I need to watch this movie.
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synopsis:
Special agent Jennifer Marsh (Diane Lane) works within a division of the FBI devoted to investigating and prosecuting criminals on the internet. Jennifer thinks she's seen everything, until a serial killer begins displaying his murders on his website. Not only that, the fate of each victim is decided by the number of hits to his site -- the more hits, the faster the victim dies. When the sinister game turns personal, Jennifer and her team have to race against the clock to find a mastermind who is virtually Untraceable.

trailer (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OLYo5tMylQM)
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: hedwig on December 31, 2007, 12:40:05 AM
Quote from: pete on December 31, 2007, 12:05:48 AM
Jennifer thinks she's seen everything, until a serial killer begins displaying his murders on his website. Not only that, the fate of each victim is decided by the number of hits to his site -- the more hits, the faster the victim dies.

this presents a new quintessential yes-or-no question of our time:

if this movie happened in real life and the murderer somehow used XIXAX to display his killings, would you continue to log in?

cinephile would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 12:49:16 AM
pas rap would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: hedwig on December 31, 2007, 01:13:14 AM
RegularKarate would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 01:14:48 AM
pubrick would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Bethie on December 31, 2007, 01:25:20 AM
pas rap has a touch screen, obviously.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: hedwig on December 31, 2007, 01:34:33 AM
bigideas would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 02:20:38 AM
pervert-santa-obviously-hiding-something would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: hedwig on December 31, 2007, 02:22:00 AM
godardian would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 02:22:44 AM
godardian wood.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: hedwig on December 31, 2007, 02:42:35 AM
maya kash would.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 31, 2007, 02:45:26 AM
To those unfamiliar with Family Guy, meet the 3 second joke extended to an unnecessary 30 seconds right before commercial break.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 03:46:44 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 31, 2007, 02:45:26 AM
To those unfamiliar with Family Guy, meet the 3 second joke extended to an unnecessary 30 seconds right before commercial break.
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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Sleepless on December 31, 2007, 07:32:55 AM
Saw the trailer. Looks awful. Reminds me of 'The Mikado' episode of 'Millennium'.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Pubrick on January 01, 2008, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 31, 2007, 02:45:26 AM
To those unfamiliar with Family Guy, meet the 3 second joke extended to an unnecessary 30 seconds right before commercial break.

are you kidding me?

this outstanding series of animated gifs offered more insight in a single image than FG would even attempt in a whole season. their version of this page would be a jpeg of a calculator screen with the words/numbers "BOOBS" and they would hold that shot for a solid 5 minutes with a few stammering explicatory comments from peter griffin "b-b-b-b-oobies.. it it it it it says boobies on the the the the screen" as he points at the joke. then after the commercial break he would have the calculator up his ass. --- actually, no, that would be giving the audience too much credit.. peter would just lick his own boob. again.

uh why am i trying to explain comedic genius to GT .. :doh:
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on January 01, 2008, 07:50:30 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 31, 2007, 02:45:26 AM
To those unfamiliar with Family Guy, meet the 3 second joke extended to an unnecessary 30 seconds right before commercial break.

uh why am i trying to explain comedic genius to GT .. :doh:

I'll use your phrase, are you kidding me? I always thought your guys version of a joke was a table of two laugher because it was too inside for anyone else to think was humorous. You guys really do think all these little back and forths are funny? Oh man haha, sorry.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
Geez way to poop on everything. Do you stop everything you find not funny? I'd prefer strings of bad jokes to curmudgeony complaints and the ensuing arguments. It's like you had to stamp your whiny disapproval on this thread.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
Geez way to poop on everything. Do you stop everything you find not funny? I'd prefer strings of bad jokes to curmudgeony complaints and the ensuing arguments. It's like you had to stamp your whiny disapproval on this thread.

Oh god, I don't need 17 year olds coming after me now. Listen, my Family Guy reference was a joke. Pubes stopped the action and made it something more. I saw the opportunity for a joke against a few other jokes. I didn't mean be an asshole against the self masturbation. If anything, I was doing what everyone does by saying a joke to undermine something else. It wasn't serious and neither was my reply to Pubes. I don't need need more attacks that are bad assumptions of who I am.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I don't need need more attacks that are bad assumptions of who I am.

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I don't need 17 year olds coming after me now.

Unless that was a joke too. Your repetoire is growing between that and, apparently, your reply to P. And thing you said about FG. Yes... jokes.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:57:16 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I don't need need more attacks that are bad assumptions of who I am.

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
I don't need 17 year olds coming after me now.

Unless that was a joke too. Your repetoire is growing between that and, apparently, your reply to P. And thing you said about FG. Yes... jokes.

I'm not going to deny an inkling of hostility in the reply to P. He said something I thought he meant and I felt was a little condescending. The Family Guy rib was a total joke though. At the end of the day I like P and we do have different senses of humor, but it wasn't serious in the sense I'm trying to burn any bridges.

And I guess I thought you were 17 because I've read your movie reviews.

Yes, that was condescending and considering your butting into this coversation, I don't care.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:57:16 PMAnd I guess I thought you were 17 because I've read your movie reviews.

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Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 02:57:16 PM
Yes, that was condescending and considering your butting into this coversation, I don't care
Butting??? It's a message board. A couple of replies and you've got the thread cornered? Excuse me, take it to PM if I'm butting in. Scram McFly, I'm cuttin in.

Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: modage on January 01, 2008, 03:44:57 PM
i think what GT is trying to say is: he wants to see Untraceable because he thinks it will be a good film.  isn't that what its all about at the end of the day? 

happy 2008 everyone!
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 01, 2008, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 03:20:11 PM
Butting??? It's a message board. A couple of replies and you've got the thread cornered? Excuse me, take it to PM if I'm butting in. Scram McFly, I'm cuttin in.

First, that comeback is funny. It's something to play the tough guy type and make a Back to the Future reference. I don't know if the other person will laugh or just be confused.

Here's the thing. Now that this has already been overblown, you were the one to single me out and go ape shit on me. I still don't know how my original comment was worthy of P's remark. It was just a Family Guy reference in a joke; a joke no more undermining or cruel than most of the jokes that go on here. I don't even like Family Guy that much. I just knew how the show was and made the reference. My post after was a reaction to a comment I felt was a personal slam and you go after me like I was the one who stopped the joking. I didn't. I was responding to the stoppage of joking.

Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: cine on January 01, 2008, 09:10:52 PM
omg whens this coming out i cant wait!!
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: polkablues on January 01, 2008, 11:35:55 PM
The real tragedy is that we now have a two-page-long "Untraceable" thread.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Pubrick on January 02, 2008, 03:07:38 AM
Quote from: Hedwig on December 31, 2007, 12:40:05 AM
if this movie happened in real life .. would you continue to log in?

GT would.

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Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 02, 2008, 02:10:41 AM
It's not a good thing to taste in your mouth.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: MacGuffin on January 04, 2008, 11:32:32 AM
'Untraceable' Cyber Criminals? Former FBI Agent Says There's No Such Thing
'We can catch you,' says Ernest Hilbert, who lent his expertise to upcoming Diane Lane flick.
Source: MTV

CULVER CITY, California — If you're reading this article on a computer, we know. If you've clicked to this site from an outside link, we know. And if you leave here and go somewhere else, somewhere you're not supposed to go, well, we don't know — but someone does.

"Is a Web site completely untraceable? No. It goes through mirrors, through proxy bounces, it goes international. To solve that it takes time, but it's just a simple factor," former FBI special agent Ernest Hilbert told MTV News. "The FBI has a whole division just to deal with this. There are 65,000 doors and windows on a computer that can be opened. You look inside of them, you own that box."

For eight years, Hilbert was one of 1,000 agents who focused on cyber investigations and computer forensics. Now a director of security for MySpace.com, Hilbert lent his years of expertise to director Gregory Hoblit's new film "Untraceable," which centers on an FBI agent (Diane Lane) who uses computer technology to track a serial killer through his Web site.

Hoblit, who said he set out to make "Untraceable" a film that "didn't play fast and loose with how sites are set up and how they are tracked and traced," recently showed MTV News some scenes from the film during a visit to an edit bay at Sony Studios. In the first scene, Lane types furiously on three different computers to track a credit-card thief using a backdoor Trojan horse to steal confidential numbers.

The fact that Lane uses three computers is not a stylistic choice, insisted Hilbert, but an FBI necessity. "You can't get on the Internet from your desktop computer. There's a reason for that. If your computer is on the Internet, it can be hacked. So the FBI network is completely separate," he revealed. "Then you'd have an Internet undercover computer that runs on a blank IP that doesn't come back to the FBI. You can make copies from there."

That modern criminals are flocking to the Internet to steal money should come as no surprise to anyone who's ever had an e-mail address, Hilbert said, but while he admits that a lot of cases do involve fraud or organized crime, an increasing number also involve kidnapping, pedophilia or terrorism.

That soon becomes Lane's problem as well. Each of the successive scenes deals with her attempts to discover the identity behind Kill With Me, a Web site with streaming video of an execution. The more people who visit the site, the faster the victim dies. In the film, Lane's search is complicated by the fact that the user continually switches IP addresses in an effort to stop the FBI's search.

"There's been a number of sites I've gone after where people have done a similar thing," Hilbert recalled. "These would all be things that the FBI would eventually figure out and track back. [It would] probably take upwards of a couple months, locking it down to each particular thing."

What's interesting to Hilbert, though, isn't that smart criminals are using the Internet, it's that even the smartest still seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the Internet works.

"Computers are not like telephones. It's just that simple, that's what people think. The novelty of computers is gone. More and more people are learning it. But the old conception was just that simple," he said. "But as much as you try to hide it, it's a machine. It's gonna come back to whoever was really behind it. We can catch you. The pedophilia [sting] is the only known undercover operation that the FBI is running, and they still catch people doing it every single day."

And, like Lane in the first scene, the FBI catches you using the same technology you're using to perpetrate the crime.

"We Google. If you're on MSN, we're on MSN. I spent two years as a hacker online. They thought I was a money man, they brought me stolen goods. They sold it to me via [instant messenger]," Hilbert said. "Anything that the bad guys would use, we at the FBI would use."

Like Hilbert, Lane scans blogs, news servers and news groups to root out crime. But is the film entirely accurate?

"It is fairly boring to watch all the steps that it really would take [to catch a cyber criminal]," Hilbert smiled. "You really want to see what that looks like? Join the FBI."

"Untraceable," which also stars Colin Hanks, opens January 25.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: polkablues on January 05, 2008, 01:05:55 AM
Please stop posting actual movie information in this thread.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Stefen on January 05, 2008, 10:47:45 PM
"He broke into my WIRELESS NETWORK!"
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Pozer on January 10, 2008, 08:42:34 PM
im not gonna let this die cuz pozer totally would but wouldnt be animated about it.

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Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Stefen on January 10, 2008, 10:07:15 PM
HAHA I remember when AICN had that shitty gray layout. That was like the late 90's haha.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: I Love a Magician on January 11, 2008, 03:00:59 AM
did he pose that monitor for the photo because what the fuck
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: pete on January 12, 2008, 01:56:35 PM
you're taking me right?!
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: MacGuffin on January 21, 2008, 09:29:56 AM
Untraceable
Bottom Line: This taut, savvy cyber-thriller makes for one of the better net flicks.
By Michael Rechtshaffen; Hollywood Reporter

In "Untraceable," the ever-capable Diane Lane plays an intrepid agent in the FBI's cyber-crime unit who is on the virtual trail of a psychopath who broadcasts his grisly torture killings on the Web.

Although the plot might feel as if it's made up of borrowed bits and bytes, thanks to Lane's typically committed performance and Gregory Hoblit's usual intelligent, brisk direction ("Fracture," "Primal Fear"), the picture remains sufficiently compelling.

Toss in a killer who is sick and twisted enough to satisfy the "Saw" set, and you've got yourself a marketable Screen Gems release that should download solid midrange numbers.

Lane's Special Agent Jennifer Marsh is a single mother by day who works nights in the FBI's Portland, Ore., bureau trolling the Internet for fast-moving sexual predators and identity thieves. 

It's a particularly intense game of cat and mouse that requires lightning-quick decisions and even quicker fingers on the keyboard, but Marsh and her partner, Griffin Dowd (Colin Hanks), usually nail the perps.

Trickier is finding a way to extricate herself from her high-tech, wired existence.

Driving home from work, she presses the OnStar button in her car to find out just how bad the traffic tie-up is in front of her, but she'll soon discover the annoying rubber-neckers checking out an accident is nothing compared to the growing millions logging onto a disturbing Web site offering real-time killings.

The first victim is a kitten, but the ante is upped considerably on killwithme.com, showing the systematic torture of kidnapped human prey whose ultimate time of death is hastened by the numbers of visitors to the site.

Initially the victims appear to be randomly snatched, but it soon becomes apparent that the killer is actually closing in on Marsh and her loved ones.

Hoblit, whose father was an FBI agent, maintains an effectively tense pace while making unpleasant observations about society's voyeuristic impulses, but it still can't cover one glaring character implausibility in the script -- credited to Robert Fyvolent and Mark R. Brinker along with Allison Burnett -- that lands Marsh in major hot water.

That misstep aside, "Untraceable" is highly watchable, anchored sturdily by Lane's convincing performance.

In addition to displaying an impressive dexterity with all that technical jargon, she really gets under her character's skin, struggling to establish some kind of division between work and home.

She gets solid support from Hanks, who shares his dad's easy affability and vocal quality, along with Billy Burke as a Portland police detective who joins forces with her, and reliable Mary Beth Hurt as her supportive mother.

Tech specs are all high res, with cinematographer Anastas Michos giving those unpleasant visuals a fittingly chilly, clinical appearance; while editor David Rosenbloom, a frequent Hoblit collaborator, cuts effectively to the bone.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: pete on January 26, 2008, 02:06:20 PM
I wished it was worse.  it wanted to be boring and proper like CSI but also gory and hoaky like Saw, the boring stuff won.  A lot of thriller foreshadowing, a lot of cyber-babble, and a lot of moralizing.  the ending was fun, as the ending of the trailer promised, but everything that led up to it was eye-rolling garbage.
before the film started, a fully-sighted lady with a pet dog was eyeing the seats next to me, 'cause her dog couldn't stand sitting that close to the screen.  they were reserved for the press, but she was relentless.  she kept on yelling at the security people, calling them nazis and stuff, until finally it was confirmed that the seat next to me was empty.  the dog slept through the movie.  the lady uttered some words, but no more than anyone else in the audience.  as the movie ended, it was just as Lucid said, an old lady walked through us.  she was an hawaiian-looking, slightly chubby lady.  the dog lady looked exactly like every rich white single dog aunt you've witnessed.  the chubby lady crossed the dog lady and the dog lady flipped out.  she screamed at her, someone's still sitting here, there's a fucking living person sitting her, etc. etc.  the chubby lady was clearly embarrassed, trying to slowly work her way through the lady and the dog, then the dog lady began smacking the chubby lady with her dog in one arm.  she kept on smacking until the old lady got passed her.  I didn't get to talk to the screen as much as I wanted (I think the only thing I got to say was "he forgot to hack into her gun!"), so I wanted to talk to the dog lady.  I said "that's very classy, miss, hitting an old lady."  she said "well, she walked into me." she realized the whole row was looking at her and started packing very quickly.  I said "hey, I know an orphanage down the street, lets go kick the shit out of some orphans!"  the dog lady got up and was running from the theater, she kept on shouting defensive remarks over her shoulder at our general direction.
Title: Re: untraceable
Post by: Stefen on January 26, 2008, 02:21:58 PM
HAHA. What the fuck? Sounds like you two went to the best screening ever.