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Film Discussion => The Small Screen => Topic started by: eward on August 24, 2019, 11:10:32 PM
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Bounty hunting is a complicated profession. Dont you agree? Herzog. :shock: :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:
This looks maybe kind of awesome???
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Werner Herzog says Parsec!
Is that...Bill Burr?
Honestly far more excited for this than Rise of Skywalker.
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Guess it's gonna be a solo eward party up in here!!!!
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It's a Jon Favreau TV Show, eward.
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All about Herzog here for me.
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Bored, being held at work against my will though we wrapped an hour ago, so I've begun dreaming up Star Wars-infused Herzog properties.
Where the Green Droids Dream
Antilles: the Wrath of God
X-Wings of Hope
Even Droids Started Small
The Great Ecstasy of the Nerfherder Steiner
Grizzly Han
Fitzcarralderaan
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call Tatooine
How Much Wood Would a Woodchuck Chewbacca
Fata Organa
Starzek
yes I'm alone
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its better you know now rather than later that its a nine episode series and hes in one episode for a small role
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My excitement remains intact.
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its exactly because of your excitement i thought you should know
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Good looks
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this show fucking blows. im only still watching purely for the trainwreck effect, and to see how the fuck bill burr is going to fit into this dumpster fire.
nick. nolte.
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I'm very happy at myself for not checking something that I would hate. I've seen thousand of Baby Yoda gifs, people have just accepted to play the game.
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Three episodes in. Surprised that Rick Dalton doesn't have a cameo in this--given the Bounty Hunter/Western thing going on. Every episode so far is very heavy on production design/action and VERY light on plot. Cool seeing Werner, and extremely grateful there are no bare feet yet.
Oh, and does Baby Yoda wear diapers? Or does The Force take care of all of that somehow?
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if like me you haven't watched the show but wanted to know what's going on with baby Yoda: it's not even Yoda, just in the same species. it can't later be revealed to be Yoda because of the timeline
here he is in action, this show is cringe
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I know a lot of people here hate Star Wars, but this show has its high points. I very much enjoyed the first 3 episodes. The fourth one is awful, though.
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Watched the first episode, enjoyed seeing Werner, but it's pretty rough going. Crappy CG, visually standard tv coverage. I won't be checking out the rest.
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https://www.gq.com/story/werner-herzog-baby-yoda
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/werner-herzog-baby-yoda-cowards-puppet-cgi-1202192502/
Apparently, Herzog wept when he first saw the Baby Yoda puppet, calling it "heartbreakingly beautiful."
And when they tried to shoot clean coverage of the scenes without the puppet, in case they decided they needed to replace it with CGI down the line, he stopped them, saying, "You are cowards. Leave it."
I haven't seen the show, but I can't imagine it could possibly entertain me on the level that these stories entertain me.
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Tired: Baby Yoda
Wired: Loth-cat
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Good to see someone was able to re-use the original Sonic the Hedgehog design after all.
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The Mandalorian is a $100 million show about nothing. Theres no overarching plot, no character development, and, six episodes in, still no emotional stakes or any indication that these issues will get resolved. Its about a walking action figure and his merchandising-friendly pet, doomed to endlessly receive jobs that pay well enough to fly to the next episodes location, team up with a celebrity cameo, get betrayed by bounty hunters, save Baby Yoda from said bounty hunters, and set off to the aforementioned next episodes location.
Source (https://www.indiewire.com/2019/12/mandalorian-episode-6-review-1202197284/)
Yeah, I'm out. Someone let me know if the MacGuffin the Kid turns out to be worth the trip the budget.
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I haven't seen today's ep, and Mandalorian is not great, but I'll say this. Baby yoda was definitely not created for the merchandise. In fact, the character is notable BECAUSE he has no merchandise yet. Favreau had Disney agree to that to prevent leaks (which worked). There will be no baby yodas for Christmas. Pre-order a baby yoda now, and you'll get it May 2020. I'm not sure we'll all be talking about baby yoda in 5 months.
Was baby yoda created for the memes, then? For the word of mouth? No, probably not, at least not by Disney; they went on a copyright claim rampage, taking down baby yoda memes for the first several days they were being created.
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its not because they care about us or the character, they just dont want to oversaturate the market. they want to play a long game, thats it, it has to be, because why else would they protect it in this way
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Like I said, it was a choice by Favreau to prevent leaks, because merchandise is usually how Star Wars leaks happen.
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Bob Iger: Sit down. You have 5 minutes.
Disney marketing exec (lets call him Steve): Thank you, sir.
Bob: So whats this about?
Steve: Are you familiar with four-dimensional chess?
Bob: No.
Steve: Well, its like regular chess, but in four dimensions.
Bob: Hmm. And the fourth dimension is, what, love? I like it. Is this going on our Netflix thing?
Steve: Sir, I work in marketing. I dont pitch shows to you.
Bob: Oh, okay. Proceed.
Steve: In four-dimensional chess, you look at whats happening on the board, but you must consider time as well.
Bob: So the fourth dimension is time?
Steve: Yes, sir.
Bob: Fascinating. Is this like that back to the future film? Do we own that?
Steve: Sort of like that. And Ill make a note to check.
Bob: Very good. Continue.
Steve: I think I have a better analogy. Have you heard of galaxy brain?
Bob: Galaxy brain. Galaxy brain. Is that a nintendo or a film?
Steve: Its a meme, actually.
Bob: A meme?
Steve: Yes, sir. Its the hottest meme right now.
Bob: Very well. Continue.
Steve: Essentially, a galaxy brain idea is one thats brilliant but also counter-intuitive.
Bob: Interesting. And were making this into a show?
Steve: No, sir, its just an analogy Im using.
Bob: Very well. Continue.
Steve: I believe we have what you might call a galaxy brain idea regarding The Mandalorian.
Bob: Mandalorian
Steve: Its the show Favreau is working on.
Bob: Oh, right. Is that a Jungle Book or a Star War?
Steve: Its a Star War, sir.
Bob: Very well. Continue.
Steve: Mandalorian has a baby yoda character. And according to our calculations, its going to be all the rage. A real sensation.
Bob: Yoda Yoda Is that the monkey or the tiger?
Steve: Star Wars, sir.
Bob: Oh, okay. Is that the race of hairy tall fellows?
Steve: No, sir. The yodas are short and reptilian.
Bob: Interesting. But their babies are cute?
Steve: With respect, sir, all babies are cute. And this one in particular.
Bob: Youve got my attention. Continue.
Steve: Favreau pitched us a number of merchandising options. But wed like to go in a different direction. Something you might call market scarcity.
Bob: Interesting. Continue.
Steve: When the show airs, this baby yoda is going to be all the rage. A real sensation, like I said. Folks will be churning out memes by the dozenshundreds, even. But were going to shut it down.
Bob: I like where youre going with this
Steve: First, well launch a full barrage of copyright strikes, protecting our intellectual property.
Bob: The way we do with Mickey?
Steve: Absolutely, sir. But heres the twist.
Bob leans forward in his chair
Steve: Were going to let it go. Well open the floodgates. Memes will pour into the streets. Baby yoda will be the talk of the town.
Bob: Fantastic. And the merchandising?
Steve: Youve anticipated the second twist, sir. There will be no merchandising. At first.
Bob: Im listening
Steve: Every child in America will want a baby yoda for Christmas. Theyll beg for it. But we wont make it available for five months. According to our research, when a child wants a toy, their interest in that toy increases by 28% each month. By the end of the five months, in May, obsession will reach critical levels.
Bob: So were aiming for a May 4th release? For the Star Wars day?
Steve: Im frankly surprised you know about Star Wars Day, sir, but no. May 20th. Were going to need an extra 16 days to maximize the effect of market scarcity.
Bob Iger takes a long sip of his coffee
Bob: Steve, my friend, youve played a real game of three-dimensional chess here.
Steve: Four-dimensional chess, sir.
Bob: I expect this plan to be executed exactly as youve described. Well done. You can see yourself out.
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lol. totally. its also my guess that whoever made that was smart and nerd enough to embed a star wars conversation with a star trek the wrath of khan reference on purpose
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lol. totally. its also my guess that whoever made that was smart and nerd enough to embed a star wars conversation with a star trek the wrath of khan reference on purpose
Whoever made that? I mean, it was me, this morning. But I haven't seen Wrath of Khan. Apparently it's pervaded my brain enough through osmosis.
I should also provide this update: Amazon is selling several baby yodas, available now. One catchthey are pre-existing large-headed (arguably baby-ized?) versions of OLD Yoda. Complete with old yoda hairs and deep scalp wrinkles. These are some of the deepest scalp wrinkles I've ever seen.
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this show is bad. but bill burr was pretty enjoyable. was surprised how much of the episode he was in. his biggest role yet?
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Baby Yoda.
When Disney+ launched Nov. 12, there were some technical glitches due to extraordinary demand. But the main story audiences were talking about was the reveal of Baby Yoda. Favreau had gotten the idea of keeping the character a secret from Donald Glover while working together on The Lion King. "We were talking about music and pop culture and he was saying that what people really like now is to be surprised, because it doesn't happen that much," Favreau says. "When Beyonc did an album, she would just put it online and everybody would react to it. Just putting it out there spurred a conversation that would become more viral and bring more genuine attention than any marketing."
The Beyonc strategy worked. Disney deliberately withheld The Child from marketing and merchandising plans, sacrificing holiday toy revenue so as not to spoil the revelation. But by the time the second episode hit the service, Baby Yoda was ubiquitous as a meme. The phenomenon that had been pioneered by Grumpy Cat took hold for Baby Yoda, as fans shared memes of Baby Yoda sipping from his tiny mug and Baby Yoda messing with the switches in a spaceship to play Lil Jon's "Get Low." By late November, Baby Yoda mentions were outpacing any of the Democratic presidential candidates on social media. On Saturday Night Live, Baby Yoda visited "Weekend Update" to talk about feeling "blessed" by his sudden fame. Disney has said it expects to amass 60 million to 90 million global subscribers for the service by 2025.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/features/baby-yoda-represents-past-present-future-hollywood-1263588?__twitter_impression=true
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The middle episodes were pretty awful, but the last 2 are quite fun. The finale was directed by Taika and has his fingerprints all over it. He almost manages to nullify Jon Favreau's bad writing.
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I know we've discussed "cancel culture" a bit and what it should take for someone to get canceled, opinions vs. behavior, etc. Personally I think Gina Carano's posts reached a saturation point and crossed a threshold such that this was obviously the right thing to do.
It was already quite distracting watching her in the last season as they tried to develop her character into somewhat of a heroic figure. I simply could not look at her face and not constantly think about her rampant idiocy.