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Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on March 12, 2005, 06:22:47 PM
Weezer Announce New Album Title
by A. Y. Keehn | 03.09.2005

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 Weezer have given their upcoming album a name. The release date is still not set, but the album will be called Make Believe. The first single from the record, “Beverly Hills,” will be released to radio stations around March 23. The video for the single was shot at the Playboy Mansion.

Weezer will play at Coachella April 30. A U.S. tour is slated for later on in the year, but dates have not been confirmed.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: UncleJoey on March 24, 2005, 01:34:22 AM
You can listen to the new single here (http://weezer.com/news/) (windows media or real player). It's pretty mediocre, but I'm still looking forward to the new album.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on March 24, 2005, 09:56:11 PM
Quote from: UncleJoey
You can listen to the new single here (http://weezer.com/news/) (windows media or real player). It's pretty mediocre, but I'm still looking forward to the new album.


It's big, dumb pop, but that's what I like about Weezer.  Not bad.  

2LB
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 25, 2005, 12:56:47 AM
That's a really boring song. And the lyrics couldn't be worse. It's kind of like the annoying and low-replay-value parts of Maladroit. (But those songs still have energy.)
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Post by: Pas on March 25, 2005, 08:17:33 AM
Wow I believe this is the baddest single Weezer ever released ...
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Post by: modage on March 25, 2005, 08:39:14 AM
yes, truly a disgrace.  i officially no longer listen to them.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 25, 2005, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
low replay value

Amazing. This song gets about 75% worse with each subsequent listening.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on March 25, 2005, 02:10:35 PM
Make Believe just leaked


perhaphs the rest of the album's better?  :yabbse-undecided:


Maladroit's first single was Dope Nose, which i still don't like very much,  but that album  had Slob,   which i think is my favorite weezer song. so there,    there's always hope.  

this year = most mediocre comebacks?
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on March 25, 2005, 09:56:10 PM
I can't believe y'all hate it so much.  I mean, it's not art, but it makes me laugh and it sounds pretty good.  

2LB
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Post by: Pubrick on March 25, 2005, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: cronopio
this year = most mediocre comebacks?

this makes robot rock sound like.. almost good.

music is dead.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 03, 2005, 08:21:24 PM
Weezer Plot Comeback
New disc harks back to their classic Nineties sound Source: Rolling Stone

After two years of scattered recording sessions -- and two weeks of Metallica-style group therapy -- Weezer have finally finished their fifth album. "It took a long-ass time," drummer Pat Wilson says of Make Believe, which hits stores May 10th.

Blame the delay on Rivers Cuomo's periodic semesters at Harvard -- where the thirty-four-year-old frontman continues to pursue an undergraduate degree -- and on his frequent dissatisfaction with his own songs. "I think Rivers was pretty emotionally divorced from our last two records," says Wilson of 2001's Green Album and 2002's Maladroit. "You can totally hear it. It sounds like we're just kind of stoned out, like a Seventies rock band who tours all the time."

But with the guidance of Audioslave producer Rick Rubin, Cuomo started writing tunes he liked -- and many of them recaptured the naked honesty of 1996's Pinkerton and the band's 1994 debut, the Blue Album.

The first single, "Beverly Hills," is one of Weezer's best-ever pop songs, combining heavy guitar crunch with a melody Wilson says has a "Steve Miller vibe." Its video, shot at the Playboy Mansion, is in the quirky tradition of the Happy Days-themed "Buddy Holly" clip. The probable second single, "We Are All on Drugs," has a pop-metal vibe that evokes Def Leppard.

But other album tracks, such as the power ballad "Peace," sound like autobiographical dispatches from a troubled soul: "All these problems in my mind/Make it hard for me to think," Cuomo sings in a quavering voice over acoustic-guitar strumming. The song climaxes in a choir's worth of overdubbed Cuomo vocal tracks that harmonize on some prototypically Weezer-ish whoa-oh-oh's. The breakup lament "This Is Such a Pity" -- which boasts Cars-like chugging rhythm guitars, a prominent synthesizer part from a cheap Casio and a lengthy guitar solo -- is similarly heartfelt.

"We didn't ever set out and say, 'Let's do a mixture of Pinkerton and the Blue Album with some Maladroit guitar solos,' " says guitarist Brian Bell. "But I think it sounds like that, because that's what we are."
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Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 04, 2005, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: Pubrick

music is dead.


Not only do I hate to agree with you, but also on this subject.

One would hope music would progressively push forward, but we're seeing a trend of remaking old styles without any new invention.  The sad part is, it was garbage then, and it's garbage now (as far as the 80's stuff goes).
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on April 04, 2005, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: Walrus
The sad part is, it was garbage then, and it's garbage now (as far as the 80's stuff goes).


i'm tired of people throwing shit at the eighties. know that it's an unfair cliché.
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Post by: Stefen on April 04, 2005, 07:54:42 PM
Wasn't Weezer trying to hark back to their early 90's record on every one of their subsequent albums after Pinkerton? I hate when bands are like "It sounds like our old stuff, thats what were going for" cause people and bands evolve and it's impossible to sound like you used to. Weezer sucks anyways. And their name is cheesy, and Rivers wears ugly shirts.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Pas on April 05, 2005, 09:47:50 AM
About Weezer trying to do the Weezer album again and again after Pinkerton, well we can all blame the god damned critics for puting down a great album like Pinkerton.

God critics suck.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: deathnotronic on April 05, 2005, 10:14:53 AM
Rivers used to be in a hair metal band before Weezer. I can probably lay my hands on a few demos, if anyone wants to hear it.

I don't really dig "Beverly Hills." I guess I expected it to be more rock than over-produced guitar tones. But the solo is pretty cool.

I've also heard Rivers hates Pinkerton the the Nth power.
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Post by: UncleJoey on April 05, 2005, 10:27:29 AM
Quote from: deathnotronic
I've also heard Rivers hates Pinkerton the the Nth power.


That's pretty much common knowledge.

Nice avatar, by the way.


Also, if anyone cares, the video for Beverly Hills is available for streaming on the media page of weezer.com. It's about as boring as the song.
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Post by: deathnotronic on April 05, 2005, 12:06:08 PM
Thanks. I wasn't sure if I was correct so I made it a rumor-esque statement.
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Post by: modage on April 24, 2005, 01:37:42 AM
the new album has leaked if anyone still listens to them...

http://regnyouth.blogspot.com/

Quote from: MacGuffin
"We didn't ever set out and say, 'Let's do a mixture of Pinkerton and the Blue Album with some Maladroit guitar solos,' " says guitarist Brian Bell. "But I think it sounds like that, because that's what we are."

it doesnt sound anything like that.  its not good.  the lyrics are especially terrible.  just the most cliche rhyming things.  this has no more 'feeling' than a limp bizkit song.  what the hell happened to them?  it still might be better than the last album, but i dont know.  they're both bad.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: UncleJoey on April 24, 2005, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
what the hell happened to them?


1. Rivers Cuomo has no passion for music anymore.
2. Rivers Cuomo is batshit crazy.
3. Everyone in the band hates Rivers Cuomo.

I'm not saying anything nobody already knows, but that's basically the problem. The new Rolling Stone article tries to be positive, but there's a lot of troubling stuff in there. I'm still going to keep an open mind about the new album until I hear it, though. I don't think Maladroit is a bad album. It's not great or groundbreaking in any way, but I enjoy listening to it once in awhile.
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Post by: meatball on April 24, 2005, 04:03:20 PM
Rivers passion for music was an extension of his sex drive. I'm a firm believer in that. Now that he's enjoyed a decade of primo groupie ass, he's jaded.

I saw Matt Sharp perform in Silverlake a while back, and it was so sad seeing the man play in a tiny little room while Rivers continues to hold onto a loyal fanbase. Including the tons of high school girls who think he's adorable.

I stopped listening to Weezer after Maladroit, which was... I don't even know what it was. Weezer helped me through some angst filled high school days. But, now I only see Rivers as exploiting his geeky appearance when he's really just a horndog.
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Post by: UncleJoey on April 24, 2005, 06:36:53 PM
It's funny you say that, because according to his interview with Rolling Stone, Rivers hasn't had sex in two years. So perhaps you're right (except about him being a horndog - he has now replaced that with "future cult member").
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 24, 2005, 07:06:48 PM
It's funny that Rivers doesn't like Pinkerton... when it was basically their best album (following Blue, of course).

Weezer has this problem with releasing 5 shitty songs per every great song, and nothing in between.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 24, 2005, 07:31:42 PM
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Weezer's Weird World
Rivers Cuomo hasn't had sex in two years, and boy, is he ready to rock. By VANESSA GRIGORIADIS

A couple of days ago, Rivers Cuomo was helping his parents out with an epic spring cleaning at their house in suburban Connecticut -- "I was the motivational coach," he says. "My role was to ask, 'Do you really need this third can of hair spray?' " -- when it was decided that it would be better not to do the European promotional tour for Weezer's new album, Make Believe, the band's first record in three years. That meant two weeks free before they started rehearsals for the Make Believe tour. That meant Cuomo could do some more vipassana, a strict style of meditation developed by the Buddha and passed down by Burmese monks.

"There was nothing else for me to do," explains Cuomo.

Nothing is exactly what one does on a vipassana retreat: ten days of twelve hours of silent meditation beginning at 4 a.m., with small breaks for food but none for conversing. Most people wouldn't enjoy this, but Cuomo, 34, is not most people. Life to him seems to be a gigantic behavorial experiment, a large part of why Weezer have put out only five albums in thirteen years, despite their Prince-like vault of hundreds of songs. Cuomo had been to ten retreats in less than two years -- following precepts like sleeping on the floor and fasting after noon -- and he was ready for another. In fact, he completed one in northern Massachusetts a couple of weeks ago. That one was twenty days long, and he spent it in a closet. "It was great!" he says.

So instead of asking the band to head to the East Coast for the Rolling Stone photo shoot and interview before leaving for Europe, Cuomo decided to fly to California for a retreat in Yosemite, and if it was possible to accommodate the magazine in Los Angeles, great, but if not, he wasn't missing his retreat. "How many people would love to be on the cover, and then you've got Rivers saying, 'I can only do it on this one day, and if you can't fit it in, it won't work'?" says Weezer guitarist Brian Bell, 36. "On one hand, I'm like, 'Jesus, how could you do that to us? We've worked hard for twelve years and we finally make the cover, and you screw it up with one sentence.' Then there's another part of me that's like, 'That guy has balls!' Even if it is really selfish."

These are the kinds of things that happen, though, when you're living the moment, which is Cuomo's new mantra -- untethered from miserable thoughts about the past and future and free at last from the greedy ego, Cuomo is currently in communion with his deep, true self. This self needs to be free, and, accordingly, Cuomo has been careful not to make any pacts about future Weezer recordings; he has also only agreed to support this album until the end of this year. "We were going to call this record Either Way I'm Fine," says drummer Pat Wilson, 36. " 'Cause Rivers kept saying that when we had to decide about things." Serenity is important to Cuomo. The shoot at the Playboy Mansion for the video for their first single, "Beverly Hills," posed a threat. "There were 150 fans around, and when we played we heard that sound, that deafening sound that you get onstage," says Wilson. "I could see Dude telling himself, 'Hold on, hold on, don't get too excited!' "

Dude, as in the chill stoner hero played by Jeff Bridges in The Big Lebowski, is the band nickname for Cuomo, though Cuomo and the Dude could not be more different. Cuomo is not chill. He has budgeted one hour for our initial interview, and when we sit down at a cocktail table in the plum-colored foyer of a Hollywood recording studio, he pushes the alarm on his tan-and-black digital watch. It is eighty-five degrees out, and he is wearing a sweater and has set a black parka on the couch. "I don't really notice where I am," he says. "I don't differentiate all that much. I don't look around much." Talking to Cuomo is like talking to a newscaster. He's altogether pleasant but stiff as a board. No emotion registers on his face, at least not until he hears something that interests him, at which point he curls his lips into something resembling a smile, widens his brown eyes from saucers to soup bowls and exclaims, "Wow!" "Great!" or "Holy cow!" The most interesting topic, of course, is meditation.

"At first I was vehemently opposed," says Cuomo. Rick Rubin, who produced Make Believe in off-and-on sessions that lasted more than a year, suggested meditation. "I sent him a very anxious page, saying, 'Rick, no. I cannot get into meditation because it will rob me of the angst that's necessary to being an artist.' And he said, 'OK, don't worry about it, forget it.' I think because he put no pressure on me, I began to get intrigued. Then I did a Tibetan-Buddhist meditation retreat. That wasn't intense enough for me. I knew I wanted something extreme."

Says Rubin, "I'm often associated, or in some cases blamed, for Rivers' meditation practice. It's worked for him -- you might see him smile or laugh now, and before you would never see that. I never suggested the particular style of meditation he's doing. Whatever Rivers is interested in, he dives in a thousand percent. He takes thing to radical extremes."

Radical extremes are what Cuomo has made his life from, and in the context of his history, the Either Way I'm Fine era isn't all that outrageous. It even makes some sense given his childhood, which was spent on ashrams -- first at the Zen Center in upstate New York and, after his father left the family when he was five (he eventually settled in Germany for a while as a suffragan bishop in a Pentecostal church), at "Woodstock guru" Swami Satchidananda's Yogaville commune in Connecticut. Everyone was a vegetarian, and no one raised his voice or cursed. Cuomo didn't like it much. He declared himself a metalhead at eleven and started playing Kiss covers with the neighborhood kids. "I was only interested in Slayer and Metallica then," says Cuomo. "I still love that music, but now I have so much appreciation for what my parents' generation did for opening up our country to Eastern philosophy and raising me like that. I feel so lucky."

Some of Cuomo's phases make a little less sense, though. Like when he followed the blockbuster success of Weezer's first album, Weezer, also known as the Blue Album, which went platinum in 1995, by getting his right leg broken: The leg was forty-four millimeters shorter than his left, and in order to make them equal, a metal cage was affixed to his right thigh; every day he'd tighten some screws on it to pull the leg a little longer. Or when, shortly thereafter, he shelved rock stardom to pursue an undergraduate degree at Harvard, studying there from 1995 to 1997, when Weezer's second album, Pinkerton, was released (he resumed his studies last fall and now has one semester left). When that record proved less critically and commercially successful than the Blue Album, Cuomo went back into his shell. Living in a Culver City apartment building under a Los Angeles freeway, he put fiberglass insulation over the windows and hung black sheets over the insulation. Then he painted all the walls black, disconnected his phone and spent a lot of time with his pet gecko.

Punishing himself has always seemed like a good bet to Cuomo, and you only have to look at his perpetually hunched shoulders and balled-up palms to realize that the assignations he keeps with himself are brutal. He gets off on deprivation. Cuomo doesn't own a car, even though he lives mostly in L.A. ("I don't have a parking space," he says, by way of explanation). He rarely listens to music. But one song he cued up recently was Kiss' "Goin' Blind": "Little lady, can't you see/You're so young and so much different than I/I'm ninety-three, you're sixteen/ Can't you see I'm goin' blind?"

"I'm so moved by those lyrics," says Cuomo. "I can't believe they came up with that."

As far as his lyrics are concerned, Cuomo has long protested that Weezer's songs are not funny or ironic or anything other than a reflection of his own anguished state. Most of the songs on the current album are about things that happened to him. "Pardon Me" was written after he attended a meditation course in which the teacher told him to repeat over in his mind "I seek pardon from all those who have harmed me in action, speech or thought." "Freak Me Out" is about a spider, says Bell. "Beverly Hills" is about, well, how Cuomo feels about Beverly Hills. "I could live in Beverly Hills, sure," he says, meaning he could afford it easily. "But I couldn't belong there."

(Excerpted from RS 973, May 5, 2005)
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Post by: meatball on April 24, 2005, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: UncleJoey
It's funny you say that, because according to his interview with Rolling Stone, Rivers hasn't had sex in two years. So perhaps you're right (except about him being a horndog - he has now replaced that with "future cult member").


Don't believe River's publicity. I know things. There are things that I know. Well, actually... the things I know did happen approx. two years ago. So maybe that's believable. But he's still a horndog.

The little shared secret about not having sex in two years is like a red flag to potential backstage beauties -- Rivers Cuomo is taking numbers.
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Post by: UncleJoey on April 24, 2005, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: Meatball
Quote from: UncleJoey
It's funny you say that, because according to his interview with Rolling Stone, Rivers hasn't had sex in two years. So perhaps you're right (except about him being a horndog - he has now replaced that with "future cult member").


I know things. There are things that I know.


OK, but how many Dave's (http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts/one/davesino.html) do you know?
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Post by: modage on May 09, 2005, 09:36:27 AM
Pitchfork Review, so true...

Weezer
Make Believe
[Interscope; 2005]
Rating: 0.4


If you're one of those poor souls who wile away the day job by keeping a scorecard of music review sites, there's one thing you already know: There are two distinct groups of bad albums. The more prevalent kind is the fodder that fills a critic's mailbox, bands with awkward names and laser-printed cover art that don't inspire ire so much as pity. The second group is more treacherous: Bands that yield high expectations due to past achievements, yet, for one reason or another, wipe out like "The Wide World of Sports"' agony-of-defeat skier.

Often, these albums are bombarded with website tomatoes for reasons you can't necessarily hear through speakers: the band changes their sound and image to court a new crossover audience, perhaps, or attempts a mid-career shift into ill-advised territory. Or maybe they start writing songs about Moses in hip-hop slang. But sometimes the bad album in question is none of the above; it doesn't offend anyone's delicate scene-politics sensibilities or try to rewrite a once-successful formula in unfortunate ways. Sometimes an album is just awful. Make Believe is one of those albums.

Weezer have been given a lot of breaks in their second era-- both The Green Album and Maladroit were cut miles of slack despite consisting of little more than slightly above-average power-pop. The obvious reason for this lenience has to do with the mean age of rock critics, and the fact that most of these mid-20s scribes were at their absolute peak for bias-forming melodrama when The Blue Album and Pinkerton were released. Even for someone like me, who came late to the Weezer appreciation club, it was impossible to hear these "comeback" albums without the echoes of the earlier alt-rock pillars ringing in our ears.

But now there's an antidote to that nostalgic interference. Right from the start of Make Believe, when Weezer lurches into a flaccid take on Joan Jett's "I Love Rock N' Roll" with an unfathomably horrible speak/sing vocal from Rivers Cuomo (think "I like girls who wear Abercrombie & Fitch"), you can hear hundreds of critics mouthing "no no no" and going into crumpled shock. What's more disconcerting is that the song gets worse over the course of its three minutes (let's just say "Framptonesque voicebox solo" and get back to repressing the memory)-- and it's the album's first single.

Hearing a song like "We Are All on Drugs", which nicks the classic melody of the schoolyard "Diarrhea" song (you know, "when you're sliding into first..." and so on) for an anti-drug message stiffer than Nancy Reagan's "Diff'rent Strokes" cameo, it calls into question whether The Blue Album was really that great, or whether it just stood out as a rare beacon of guitar pop in a grunge-obsessed era. Trying to wrap your mind around the land-cliché-record lyrics of songs like "My Best Friend" and "Haunt You Every Day" leads me to wonder how Pinkerton could ever have seemed like such a cathartically resonant treatise on unrequited love. Was Rivers Cuomo always on the notebook-scrawl level of "I don't feel the joy/ I don't feel the pain," and did we not notice because scrawling in notebooks was the depth of our emotional knowledge at the time?

Okay, let's not be so hard on ourselves here: I'm pretty sure this is all Rivers' fault. Pinkerton triumphed by being an uncomfortably honest self-portrait of Cuomo. On Make Believe, his personality has vanished beneath layers of self-imposed universality, writing non-specific power ballads like he apprenticed with Diane Warren, and whoah-oh-ohing a whole lot in lieu of coming up with coherent or interesting thoughts. Coupled with his continued obsession with tired power chords and bland riff-rock (surprisingly not sonically boosted by producer Rick Rubin, whose post-"99 Problems" grip on relevance is now officially spent), the creative driving force behind the Weez is asleep at the wheel.

Considering Weezer supposedly went through hundreds of songs and several discarded albums to arrive at this final product, the laziness of this songwriting borders on the offensive. Whether recycling dynamics from the band's back catalog (see: "Perfect Situation") or taking the easy Mother Goose rhyme (see: every fucking song here), these 12 tracks sound as if they were dashed off in an afternoon's work, maybe with Rubin holding the band at gunpoint. The one half-decent song on the record, "This Is Such a Pity", fails to even maintain its status as a pleasant Cars homage, interjecting a guitar solo that sounds like it was cut from the original score to Top Gun.

So does Make Believe completely ruin not just present-day Weezer, but retroactively, any enjoyment to be had from their earlier work? I don't know-- I'm too scared to re-listen to those first two albums-- but it certainly appears that Make Believe will expertly extract the last remaining good graces the critical community has to offer latter-day Weezer, unless my colleagues' memories of slow-dancing with Ashley to "Say It Ain't So" are more powerful than I can possibly imagine. Of course, if Ashley went on to break your heart, fellow critic, Make Believe might be just the medicine you need; put it on repeat and watch your emotional scar be obliterated as collateral damage in the torpedoing of Weezer's legacy.

-Rob Mitchum, May 9, 2005
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Post by: modage on August 02, 2005, 02:17:07 PM
JimmyGator, tell us why Weezer sucks now.  dont be afraid of detail.
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Post by: cron on August 02, 2005, 05:41:02 PM
they'll be playing over here in november and i kinda want to go . is their show any good?
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Post by: Pas on August 02, 2005, 07:04:05 PM
I hear it's trash and River has no soul left inside the shell that is his frail body.
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Post by: JG on August 02, 2005, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: The W
It's funny that Rivers doesn't like Pinkerton... when it was basically their best album (following Blue, of course).

Weezer has this problem with releasing 5 shitty songs per every great song, and nothing in between.


He does like Pinkerton now and admits that it was a classic album.  I'm pretty much a Weezer fanatic.  I hate everything post 1998 Weezer but if you're a fan of Blue and Pink you should check out unreleased songs like: I just threw out the love of my dreams, blast off!, you won't get with me tonight, mykel and carli, suzanne, jamie, waiting on you, wanda, longtime sunshine...among many many many other unreleased weezer songs that are just as good as any album song.  

make believe is easily better than maladroit and about on par with green.  the lyrics really kill it.  rivers use to be such a great writer.
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Post by: JG on August 02, 2005, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
JimmyGator, tell us why Weezer sucks now.  dont be afraid of detail.


Rivers is indifferent.  In the days of Pinkerton, he was passionate, spending his days studying opera and classic music for inspiration.  Pinkerton was originally going to be a rock opera known as songs from the black hole (i recommend checking out songs like:  I just threw out the love of my dreams, blast off!, longtime sunshine, and you won't get with me tonight -- all demoes from the concept album).  the idea was scratched but a lot of great songs came from this era.  he really cared then.  when the album got bashed, he thought it was because he was so open about his life.  When he returned with Green he was practically a robot, writing formulaic pop songs.  He has never been the same since.  I could go into, but it's late.  If you have questions, I'd be glad to answer.


I love their show, though.  They really make their songs live sound like their albums, but with an extra zing.
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Post by: life_boy on August 02, 2005, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: JimmyGator
I hate everything post 1998 Weezer but if you're a fan of Blue and Pink you should check out unreleased songs...

...among many many many other unreleased weezer songs that are just as good as any album song.


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So, would you recommend purchasing the Deluxe Edition (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47F17D348A97520C9962F41DBBF7AFC1AFE41FF8212334540C8BD7F4688196AEC5DF28792EDA324F871B0FD31A65A0FD686EF57F6DD63373C8BFEC61D&sql=10:kqkmikxsbb79)?  I've been curious if this was worth the extra money for the demos, live cuts and b-sides.  I think Blue is a great pop album but I wouldn't call myself any kind of big Weezer fan (especially now, post-Green), but I'd be up for listening to some other cuts from those sessions if they're good.  Is the Deluxe Edition a die-hard fans only type of thing?
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Post by: Pubrick on August 02, 2005, 11:34:58 PM
jimmy gator, in the future use the (https://xixax.com/templates/xixax/images/lang_english/icon_edit.gif) button to combine several replies into one post.
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Post by: JG on August 03, 2005, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: life_boy
Quote from: JimmyGator
I hate everything post 1998 Weezer but if you're a fan of Blue and Pink you should check out unreleased songs...

...among many many many other unreleased weezer songs that are just as good as any album song.


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So, would you recommend purchasing the Deluxe Edition (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47F17D348A97520C9962F41DBBF7AFC1AFE41FF8212334540C8BD7F4688196AEC5DF28792EDA324F871B0FD31A65A0FD686EF57F6DD63373C8BFEC61D&sql=10:kqkmikxsbb79)?  I've been curious if this was worth the extra money for the demos, live cuts and b-sides.  I think Blue is a great pop album but I wouldn't call myself any kind of big Weezer fan (especially now, post-Green), but I'd be up for listening to some other cuts from those sessions if they're good.  Is the Deluxe Edition a die-hard fans only type of thing?


If they were ever to come out with a Pinkerton deluxe, then I would immediatley say yes because the songs of that era are just amazing.  If I were you I would just download the songs that appear on the second disk of that edition -- mykel and carli, jamie, my evaline, and suzanne are all classic weezer tracks.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: life_boy on August 03, 2005, 03:05:29 PM
Cool, thanks for the advice.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: JG on August 05, 2005, 06:19:23 PM
visit weezer.se for all unreleased MP3s.  Very cool stuff.  The best part of Weezer is all the unreleased stuff.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 06, 2005, 06:39:52 PM
Oddly enough.
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: modage on September 17, 2005, 05:07:30 PM
THANK GOD. Band says Make Believe could be its final album.

Are Weezer Calling It Quits?
Source: MTV 09.13.2005 5:53 PM EDT

They've been a band for more than 13 years, releasing five albums and winning over an army of overly devoted fans in the process. But all that could soon be a distant memory, because it looks like Weezer might never make another album again.

Last week, MTV News spoke to the band before the launch of its co-headlining tour with the Foo Fighters (see "Weezer, Foos Bring Arena-Rock Spectacle To Foozer (WeeFighters?) Tour Kickoff"), and the guys were more than candid about a whole host of subjects, including the fact that Make Believe could very well be their final LP.

"We have no idea if we're going to be a band next year. That's the fun of being in Weezer," guitarist Brian Bell laughed. "That's why we put out albums every three years, and we have these dark periods where we don't know if we're even going to be a band anymore. But I always have this gut feeling that everything will take care of itself, one way or the other, and it always does."

The whole topic sprang from a discussion about the contents of the Make Believe liner notes, in particular one page that contains the following quote, taken from William Shakespeare's "The Tempest": "This rough magic/ I here abjure, and, when I have required/ Some heavenly music, which even now I do/ To work mine end upon their senses that/ This airy charm is for, I'll break my staff/ Bury it certain fathoms in the earth/ And deeper than did ever plummet sound/ I'll drown my book."

On one hand, it's easy to chalk the quote up as yet another vaguely empty/vaguely grandiose gesture by a bunch of rock stars, kind of like Led Zeppelin's J.R.R. Tolkien obsession or Coldplay filling their new album with the Baudot Code (see "Coldplay's Album Cover Decoded (And You Thought The Lyrics Were Geeky ...)" ). But upon closer inspection, it takes on a different quality. Consider the fact that "The Tempest" is Shakespeare's final play, and that the quote is taken from the final soliloquy of Prospero, the play's tragic protagonist, who many scholars see as an incarnation of Shakespeare himself. It comes at the end of the play, as Prospero is renouncing his past and saying farewell to the audience, which many see as Shakespeare laying his pen down and bidding his fans adieu.

And because of all that, it became apparent that there was something more to the quote. Could it be Weezer's way of saying goodbye on the sly?

"When we were putting the album together and finishing up the artwork, I didn't know what was going to happen in the future, and I told everyone that. I told them, 'Let's commit to this year, and see what happens,' " frontman Rivers Cuomo said. "And that was one of the reasons why I put that quote in there, because I thought it's a really nice way to say goodbye, if it is a goodbye."

"When I saw that quote, I thought the same thing. I was studying Shakespeare at a university during the making of Make Believe, and it did spark some concern, and I asked Rivers about it," Bell added. "We never directly say, 'So, does this mean this is our last record? What does this mean?' But I know he took Shakespeare too, and maybe it struck a chord with him."

Weezer's label, Geffen Records, had no comment on the matter, though it's worth noting that the band is only committed to tour in support of Make Believe until the end of the year and has no firm plans after that. Weezer have gone on hiatus before — most notably from 1997 to 2000, as Cuomo attended Harvard University and the other members of the band busied themselves with various side projects — but listening to everyone talk now, it doesn't sound like this is just another long break.

"I don't know what next year will bring. I have no idea," Cuomo said. "I can tell you I have a lot of ideas for songs, a lot of things I want to try, and a lot of new ways of writing I want to explore, and I'm very excited about trying all of that."

"If this really is it for Weezer, I think I'd take some time off, and then me and my lady would move to Las Vegas and start a sort of lounge duo," bassist Scott Shriner laughed. "So I guess you can look for us in Las Vegas soon."
Title: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: JG on September 17, 2005, 05:49:01 PM
the band has denied this to be true, but it might be time.  havent made a good record in 9 years. it's so sad.  rivers cuomo could have been great.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Ravi on July 12, 2006, 12:19:33 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1536119/20060711/weezer.jhtml?headlines=true

Rivers Cuomo Says Weezer Are 'Done' For Now — Again
07.12.2006 6:00 AM EDT

At the moment, Rivers Cuomo could not be further removed from the other members of Weezer.

He's sitting in his in-laws' house in southern Japan, fiddling with his wife's guitar ("She never learned how to play it," he laughed) and leafing through his composition book, talking about the songs he's been writing over the past few months.

"All this year, I've been feeling pretty creative and excited, so I've been writing a lot," Cuomo said. "I don't know what'll happen with these songs — if anything — I just sort of write them and I can't stop. I certainly don't see them becoming Weezer songs, and I don't really see the point of a solo career. So we'll just have to see."

To be honest, Cuomo is in no hurry to figure things out. In the past month, he has graduated from Harvard (completing an on-again, off-again decade-long run at the university; see "Rivers Cuomo: Coming To A Dorm Room Near You?") and gotten married. But Cuomo hasn't stopped working — not even on his honeymoon.

"Actually our honeymoon has been one of the best times to write," he said. "At 1 p.m., I get on my crazy Japanese bike and ride for 10 minutes down to the mega-mall, and on the third floor they have all these studios you can rent for five bucks an hour, with drums and a soundboard and everything. So I go in there and work, and when I'm done, I exit into the midst of a Japanese mega-mall."

Some of the tunes Cuomo has been recording are autobiographical. "Heart Songs" is about all the artists and records that have influenced him, "From Gordon Lightfoot's '[The Wreck of the] Edmund Fitzgerald' when I was 5 to Nirvana's Nevermind." Others are just plain nonsensical: "Our Time Will Come" is his ode to the underachieving U.S. men's soccer team.

But again, he's writing them for no one in particular.

While Cuomo isn't exactly at odds with anyone in his band, and all three current members — guitarist Brian Bell, bassist Scott Shriner and drummer Pat Wilson — did serve as groomsmen at his June wedding, he's not exactly speaking to them every day, either. And while Weezer frequently take breaks in-between albums, there is a sense of finality this time, especially given the events of last year, which included the bittersweet farewell Cuomo included in the liner notes of their Make Believe album (see "Are Weezer Calling It Quits?").

"Well, the band is all back in Los Angeles, and I sometimes I speak with Patrick, and I occasionally e-mail with Brian and Scott, but we've never mentioned getting together," Cuomo said. "Really, for the moment, we are done. And I'm not certain we'll ever make a record again, unless it becomes really obvious to me that we need to do one."

And if that does mean that Weezer are finished, can fans expect some sort of career-spanning greatest-hits comp? Well, not if Cuomo has anything to do with it.

"It's being discussed with the record company right now, but we have to sign off before they can do anything. And to be honest, we don't all see eye-to-eye on it," he said.

"I'm not convinced that we have a greatest-hits album that is worth putting out at this point," he added. "I'd like to include two more amazing songs on there. And anything else would just seem lazy to me. We'll see, though. I don't really feel comfortable with it now."

For more on Weezer, check out the feature "Weezer: Distraction Subtraction."

— James Montgomery
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: modage on July 12, 2006, 04:48:32 PM
thank god.  lets hope they never come back.  because at this rate, if they do, they will be the absolute worst band on the planet when they do.

original weezer = awesome
weezer 2.0 = terrible
weezer of the future = apocalypse
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: tpfkabi on July 17, 2006, 07:29:07 PM
who did he marry?
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on July 18, 2006, 04:49:50 PM
who did he marry?

Rivers Marries
Wednesday, June 21, 2006

Weezer front-man Rivers Cuomo is saying goodbye to the single life. According to his band's website, the singer wed his long-time girlfriend Kyoko Ito (Key-oh-ko ee-to) at a private ceremony in Malibu on Sunday. The 36-year old rocker also graduated from Harvard last week, 11 years after he first enrolled.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on August 24, 2006, 12:56:18 PM
Source: MTV

Despite Rivers Cuomo's suggestions that he would consider going solo and that Make Believe may be Weezer's last album, a "public service announcement" posted on the group's Web site states otherwise. Featuring a photo of the band — minus drummer Pat Wilson, who was apparently on a family vacation — the post reads: "This PSA has been brought to you by the fine guacamole dip at Scott Shriner's house, co-sponsored by a ring of fine cheese, and a dish of fresh figs from the backyard. Now please, take those 'Weezer split?' headlines and place them firmly into the 'Don't believe the hype' bin. And have yourself a fine afternoon now."
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Pas on September 21, 2006, 05:09:06 PM
Make Believe wasn't that bad once you get used to it I guess. The thing with Weezer is that we aren't 13 anymore :(
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Neil on September 21, 2006, 05:20:50 PM
Make Believe wasn't that bad once you get used to it I guess. The thing with Weezer is that we aren't 13 anymore :(

Wow, that's interesting.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: squints on September 21, 2006, 05:26:44 PM
No its not interesting. Weezer lost the capability to rock when matt sharp left. Pinkerton was great when i was 13 and its still great now. Matt Sharp solo and the Rentals have each had good albums, if rivers and matt could get together for a new album I might actually buy a weezer record again, but for now these throwaway lyrics and recycled three chord pop songs that aren't even that catchy can suck a dick
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Neil on September 21, 2006, 05:42:38 PM
No its not interesting. Weezer lost the capability to rock when matt sharp left. Pinkerton was great when i was 13 and its still great now. Matt Sharp solo and the Rentals have each had good albums, if rivers and matt could get together for a new album I might actually buy a weezer record again, but for now these throwaway lyrics and recycled three chord pop songs that aren't even that catchy can suck a dick

i agree with all this , with the exception of the sucking a dick part.

That's why i thought that was interesting, because they are still great now, and i wasn't sure if Pas Rap was saying that "what's the deal with my brain, why am i so obviously insane?" was as good  as the blue, pinkerton, and even green...that is all, save the attacks against me in all the other threads
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on October 02, 2006, 10:49:50 PM
Weezer: The Beer Lawsuit

Divided they stand, together they sue.

Looking for a cure for what ales them, the apparently still-together members of Weezer sued Miller Brewing Co. Friday, accusing the Milwaukee-based institution of unlawfully using the band's image in a series of print ads to promote beer and other alcoholic beverages.

According to the alt-rock quartet's complaint, the three ads that showed up in 2004 on the pages of Rolling Stone misappropriated the band's name and image by stating that Weezer--along with "other bands and musical performers with whom [Weezer] do not wish to be associated in any advertisement"--endorsed Miller products.

Not wanting anyone to destroy their sweater or their image, Weezer frontman Rivers Cuomo, drummer Patrick Wilson, guitarist Brian Bell and bassist Scott Shriner are seeking actual damages (they feel the misappropriation of their good name has cost them millions); all profits received by Miller and fellow defendants from the ads in question; punitive damages amounting to three times either the actual damages or the defendants' profits, whichever is higher; and an injunction against any further use of the band's image.

Weezer has also targeted marketing firm Young & Rubicam and production company Giannini Creative Imaging in the lawsuit.

Although following the platinum-level success of 2005's Make Believe Cuomo told MTV News in July that Weezer's latest break may be a break-up, an Aug. 12 posting on the band's Website referred to the members' current state as "one of positivity and growth."

"Now please, take those 'Weezer split?' headlines and place them firmly into the 'Don't believe the hype' bin," read the site a week later. As of last weekend, a live DVD project was on hold, however, and while cover art has been created for a greatest-hits album, no new songs have been recorded yet. "It if happens, it will definitely have some new tracks," the band said, adding that Cuomo has been working on some fresh material.

Meanwhile, the rest of the Maladroit boys are keeping busy while Cuomo cleanses his aura and enjoys married life after almost three years of self-imposed celibacy (he tied the knot with Kyoko Ito in June).

Bell and Wilson went retro to play Lou Reed and John Cale in the upcoming Edie Sedgwick biopic Factory Girl, starring Sienna Miller as the Andy Warhol muse. The Weezer mates also recorded a cover of Velvet Underground's "Heroin" for the film's soundtrack.

Wilson has a side band, too--The Special Goodness, with The Offspring drummer Atom Willard--and Bell fronts his own group, Space Twins, as well.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Pas on October 11, 2006, 08:12:40 PM
That's why i thought that was interesting, because they are still great now, and i wasn't sure if Pas Rap was saying that "what's the deal with my brain, why am i so obviously insane?" was as good  as the blue, pinkerton, and even green

That's exactly what I was saying yes. My sister and her friends are between 12-14 and they all like Make Believe just as much as Blue and Pinkerton while they hate Maladroit and ''meh'' Green. I'm not saying I do too but take off the nostalgia glasses and ... you know... whatever.

Really old I know.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Neil on October 17, 2006, 05:52:51 PM
www.purevolume.com/jayzeezer (http://www.purevolume.com/jayzeezer)


but it did happen...
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Neil on October 17, 2006, 05:59:46 PM
That's why i thought that was interesting, because they are still great now, and i wasn't sure if Pas Rap was saying that "what's the deal with my brain, why am i so obviously insane?" was as good  as the blue, pinkerton, and even green

That's exactly what I was saying yes. My sister and her friends are between 12-14 and they all like Make Believe just as much as Blue and Pinkerton while they hate Maladroit and ''meh'' Green. I'm not saying I do too but take off the nostalgia glasses and ... you know... whatever.

Really old I know.

not to stir this up, but, i mean,  the blue album and pinkerton are loaded with great song writing, and they are amazing records as a whole, and i am positive that make believe is not up to par with the rest...so, i'm not really sure what you were saying...it's not like some bias against the newer cd's it's just that they have nothing but lackluster songs/song writing...i guess rivers lost sharp, and then decided to write every song with a pathetic formula...maybe i lost the entire purpose of what we were talking about, because i'm dumb, and that could most likely happen, but i was curious what you were trying to say by that.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on June 27, 2007, 12:26:04 AM
Weezer Aren't Done Yet — Online Post Promises Sixth Album
Band slated to hit studio in July, aims to release LP in 2008.
Source: MTV

Last time we heard from Weezer, frontman Rivers Cuomo said they were "done." Cooked. Put on ice ... again.

All of a sudden, though, it seems like things have ramped back up for the band that is more on-again/off-again than a Brittany Murphy engagement. Months after a mysterious Web site with the vague name AlbumSix.com began redirecting traffic to Weezer's homepage, a note was posted on both sites on Monday announcing that the group was not only back together, but about to wrap up work on a yet-untitled sixth album.

A post titled "Yams, clams, flans, plans, shams, crans and glands" and attributed to Cuomo announced, "Hey Party-People, Weezer is just polishing up a batch of songs for a recording session that is going to start at the beginning of July. This will be the final recording session for our sixth album which we aim to put out in the first half of 2008. We hope you are all having good times. Love, R-Dawg." The post was accompanied by a photo of an unidentified kid in blue jeans, a white button-down and an oversized black leather coat, which could very well have been a pint-size Cuomo, but we're not sure, since no one in the band's camp is really talking.

A source close to Weezer confirmed, however, that they are scheduled to wrap the album soon and that it is tentatively slated for a 2008 release.

Last July, Cuomo was camped out at his in-laws' house in southern Japan writing songs at a furious pace, with no idea where they'd go. "All this year, I've been feeling pretty creative and excited, so I've been writing a lot," Cuomo said at the time. "I don't know what'll happen with these songs — if anything — I just sort of write them and I can't stop. I certainly don't see them becoming Weezer songs, and I don't really see the point of a solo career. So we'll just have to see."

But cryptic messages in the liner notes to Weezer's 2005 album, Make Believe, appeared to lend credence to the feeling that the band was going to call it quits well short of its 15th anniversary.

In particular, a quote from William Shakespeare's "The Tempest" read, "This rough magic/ I here abjure, and, when I have required/ Some heavenly music, which even now I do/ To work mine end upon their senses that/ This airy charm is for, I'll break my staff/ Bury it certain fathoms in the earth/ And deeper than did ever plummet sound/ I'll drown my book".

A demo of a song called "Pig" has been floating around online since April, but it's unclear if that tune — which features Cuomo accompanied by an acoustic guitar, piano and harmonica singing about playing in the mud, talking to the animals and being in love with a girl named Tina — will end up on the new album.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Stefen on June 27, 2007, 01:11:07 AM
it seems like things have ramped back up for the band that is more on-again/off-again than a Brittany Murphy engagement.

MTV.com stories are littered with more cheezy pop culture references than a Kevin Smith movie.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on November 12, 2007, 03:59:40 AM
Weezer fans, the countdown for a new album has begun. The band's mysterious AlbumSix.com Web site has posted release dates for two upcoming projects: Alone: The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo, which is due December 11, and the simply titled Album Six, which is poised for an April 22 release.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on December 27, 2007, 10:42:32 AM
Weezer frontman eyes more archival releases

Weezer frontman Rivers Cuomo hopes his new solo album will be the first in a series of releases that unearths material left off his band's albums.

"Alone -- The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo," released December 18 via Geffen Records, boasts 18 demos drawn from 1992 to 2007, including an early version of the Weezer hit "Buddy Holly."

"I would love to put out at least one more," he says. "I'm talking with the record company (now) to figure out what's the best way for me to get more of this stuff out, and if they're gonna be involved or not. But it's certainly my hope to put out as much of this stuff as I can."

For the moment, however, future vault-raiding will have to wait in line behind Weezer's sixth album, which Cuomo says is "almost done" and that he hopes to release in April or May.

"I'm listening to the songs every day, trying to figure out which order they go in and understand what the spirit is behind this album ... It's still evolving."

Cuomo describes the new songs, which are being co-produced by Rick Rubin, as "dark and deep and beautiful," and "definitely more sophisticated and adventurous. You'll hear very long songs ... and non-traditional structures."

Cuomo says Weezer fans will also hear more from Weezer's other band members, who also wrote songs and even sing lead on some tracks. On one unnamed cut, drummer Pat Wilson sings and plays lead guitar while Cuomo takes over the drum stool.

"It was a blast," Cuomo says of the all-in approach. "It definitely feels like there's a lot more of our energy that over the years has been kind of pent-up and now has been released and is flowing freely between the four of us. It's really exciting."

Cuomo's other major project is a "deep and detailed" memoir tracing the period from Weezer's formation in 1992 to the release of its self-titled debut in 1994. He anticipates another year of writing before he's ready to turn it over to a publisher.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: MacGuffin on April 23, 2008, 08:28:42 PM
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Weezer's Awkward Red Album Cover Is The Real Deal, 'Not A Joke' Publicist Confirms
'It's what they chose,' spokesman says of the photo showing bandmembers dressed as odd stereotypes.
Source: MTV

You know the supposed cover for Weezer's upcoming Red album that hit the Net late Monday? The one that features the band sporting looks that blogs have described as "The New Village People: The Bartender, the Professor, the Cowboy and the Biker" (Pitchfork) and "the four dudes ... [hoping] to spread the worst aspects of Williamsburg's nightlife ... to the Best Buy masses" (Idolator)?

Well, despite those glowing reviews — and the creeping suspicion by many Weezer fans that the cover is some sort of elaborate hoax — we can confirm that, yes, that is the actual cover of the band's third self-titled album, nicknamed Red, which will hit stores on June 24. But no, we're not sure what the meaning behind Rivers' "suburban cowboy" look is, either.

"Yes, that's absolutely the cover," Jim Merlis, the band's publicist, told MTV News. "It's what they chose. They looked at a bunch of mockups, and that's the one they decided to go with. It's not a joke."

Merlis went on to add that he didn't know what the band was going for when they decided on the Red cover — which was shot by photographer Sean Murphy in his Los Angeles studio. "It's Weezer, man," he shrugged. A spokesperson for Weez's label, Geffen, also confirmed the authenticity of the cover.

So, what do the fans think? Well, when the image was first posted on the Weezer's official Web site, reaction seemed evenly split between those who thought it was hysterical — "This rivals Prince's Lovesexy cover. At least Weezer [have] kept their sense of humor," one fan wrote — and those who thought it was, well, pretty puzzling.

"Rivers looks like Jeff Foxworthy," a fan posted. And another added, "The only ones not ruining this cover are the two that aren't wearing stupid hats."

But despite the mixed reactions to Red's cover, there's no denying the success of its first single, "Pork and Beans," which debuted this week at #19 on the Modern Rock Radio charts and is already spawning a legion of "tribute" videos on YouTube.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: tpfkabi on April 23, 2008, 10:39:30 PM
brian bell is unrecognizable.
he looks like K Fed to me.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on May 27, 2008, 10:34:27 PM
what do you know, pork and beans is very good weezer! i heard it today by accident and it reminded me of pinkterton.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: squints on May 27, 2008, 10:46:33 PM
i've been stuck on pork and beans for a while. its a great song. the video is pretty cool too.


edit: in fact..why not? its a great video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI)
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: modage on May 30, 2008, 12:33:01 PM
don't believe the hype.  they still suck. 

Everybody Get Dangerous is this albums We Are All On Drugs.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cinemanarchist on May 30, 2008, 02:20:52 PM
I think Rivers is singing like he is enjoying himself for the first time in years...either that or he is just in on the joke of what Weezer has become. I still like the album and think it's perfect for summer rocking.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: squints on May 30, 2008, 02:38:19 PM
don't believe the hype.  they still suck. 

Everybody Get Dangerous is this albums We Are All On Drugs.

pork and beans is the singular great moment on this record. The rest of the album is pure bullshit. Not even rick rubin could save this. too bad. let me know when matt sharpe rejoins the band.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Stefen on May 31, 2008, 12:07:54 AM
haha this album sucks.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: modage on May 31, 2008, 04:17:49 PM
I still like the album and think it's perfect for summer rocking.
i hold my summer rocking to a higher standard.  listen to

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instead.  esp. Constructive Summer.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: hedwig on May 31, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
^agreed. i've had that on repeat, especially Slapped Actress.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: john on June 04, 2008, 03:55:14 AM
I think comparing this to The Hold Steady's latest is pretty apt.

Both albums differ in sound and execution, but both seem to attempt to anthemic and reflective... only difference is that Craig Finn and Co. actually seem like they have something to say, to the result seems genuine, and not as lazy.

I love Weezer, but I put way too much effort in trying to give a shit about anything they've released in the last five years, if not longer. I should pretty much resign myself to the fact that the band that released Blue and Pinkerton don't even resemble the band that released Make Believe and Red. In fact, if any generic Los Angeles power-pop group released the same albums, I doubt they'd be in my collection, let alone on my radar.

I used to think I was too harsh on Weezer, holding them to a standard they really don't have any obligation to attain. I'm finally realizing that I've been way too easy on them.

Though, I'm not really gonna fault them for Pork and Beans - there are parts of that song that are really fine.

Back to listening to Stay Positive.


Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: tpfkabi on June 04, 2008, 11:15:24 AM
Circuit City is selling the album for $5.99.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: john on June 13, 2008, 02:46:26 PM
You know what... fuck it... I really appreciate this album.

It's gloriously schizophrenic, in both style and quality. Half of it is some of the best latter-day Weezer I've ever heard, and the other half is absurdly bad. After a pop-trifecta like Troublemaker, Greatest Man.., and Pork and Beans - it crashes, head first, with a double-bill of trifling garbage (Heart Songs, Everybody Gets Dangerous)

And it doesn't really regain that momentum it started out with... Dreamin' is perfectly acceptable, though not exceptional... Cold Dark World is probably an in-joke that I'm not in on, because it's fucking terrible...

But, if you get the bonus tracks, you get one of the best Weezer songs in years.... Miss Sweeney.... just fucking glorious, in every regard... it's a wholly new beast that still sounds lovingly familiar.

Rock.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on June 26, 2008, 06:27:16 PM
i think you'll enjoy this , john:






probably my favourite song by weezer ever
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Pozer on June 26, 2008, 06:56:07 PM
hi,hellothisevening mynameisPozer andI mustbereallyboredcuzI justclickedonthatcliptowatchsome stupidkidcoveratalentless song..whydididothatthisevening? replacedIkissedAGirl inmymind.....
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: JG on June 26, 2008, 08:31:07 PM
there's a couple parts in that 'ms. sweeney' song that are really great.. the  "i'm waiting" line in the chorus, and then when he sings "girl" and the music drop out. the rest of the song is okay i guess, but its little things like that remind me why i use to think they were the best ever.

the other really curious song that i've heard is 'the greatest man that ever lived,' which ranges from being really good to funny good to funny bad to plain bad. rivers singing about tearing down the walls over acoustic guitar gets me every time - its a kind of sound i really wish they tapped into when rivers was writing better songs. its also unabashedly goofy. how can you say no to that killer falsetto? 

i can't remember the last time i listened to weezer, but hearing a few songs from this album (most of which i'll never listen to again) made me super nostalgic.

also, cron seems to like the right music.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 28, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
My favorites are actually The Greatest Man That Ever Lived, Heart Songs, and The Angel And The One. Dreamin' also holds my interest. Not the best collection of music, but at least it's listenable. I think they're making progress.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cinemanarchist on June 28, 2008, 01:39:14 PM
Has anyone downloaded the new Weezer tracks for Rock Band? I think they've got The Greatest Man...Dreamin' and Troublemaker.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: tpfkabi on June 28, 2008, 03:43:00 PM
Dreamin' sounds like a lost song between the Blue album and Pinkerton.
You still have the Blue style arrangement, but none of the cynicallness of Pinkerton's lyrics.

I think I would have preferred Matt Sharp singing the other part on that song though.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: cron on October 27, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
that King song in the deluxe edition is great. anyone else a fan? am i confusing a mediocre song with something awesome? fuck you.
Title: Re: Kenosha Wisconsin's own...Weezer!!
Post by: Pozer on October 29, 2008, 09:08:14 PM
is marrying a bi-atch having 7 ki-ads the most cringe worthy lyrics ever or is it just me?





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