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Reply #60 on: April 24, 2021, 12:10:00 AM
Smile! A Complete History of the Oscar Class Photo Since we couldnít delight in a new group shot this year, we looked back at 36 years of classics.

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This was a year of firsts for Paul Thomas Anderson (second row, tenth from right) and Julianne Moore (second row, ninth from right), whose nominations for Boogie Nights in Best Original Screenplay and Best Supporting Actress, respectively, kicked off many more.
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Reply #61 on: April 24, 2021, 12:34:06 AM
The 10 Longest Oscar Dry Spells


  • 10. Deborah Kerr, 0/6.
  • 9. Amy Adams, 0/6.
  • 8. Thelma Ritter, 0/6.
  • 7. Robert Altman, 0/7
  • 6. Richard Burton, 0/7
  • 5. Mike Leigh, 0/7
  • 4. Wes Anderson, 0/7
  • 3. Glenn Close, 0/7
  • 2. Peter OíToole, 0/8
  • 1. Paul Thomas Anderson, 0/8
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Reply #62 on: April 24, 2021, 10:33:27 AM
Richie Burton is the biggest shocker on there to me

Edit: I turned on the TV and went to TCM and ďThe Sand PiperĒ is on


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Reply #63 on: April 24, 2021, 05:26:20 PM
The 'chard.
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Reply #64 on: April 25, 2021, 07:44:57 AM
We go way back


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Reply #65 on: April 25, 2021, 10:23:58 AM
The 10 Longest Oscar Dry Spells


  • 10. Deborah Kerr, 0/6.
  • 9. Amy Adams, 0/6.
  • 8. Thelma Ritter, 0/6.
  • 7. Robert Altman, 0/7
  • 6. Richard Burton, 0/7
  • 5. Mike Leigh, 0/7
  • 4. Wes Anderson, 0/7
  • 3. Glenn Close, 0/7
  • 2. Peter OíToole, 0/8
  • 1. Paul Thomas Anderson, 0/8

Just read that Kubrick was 1/13.
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Reply #66 on: April 25, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
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Who is hosting the Oscars?

The Oscars havenít had a host since 2018. This year will continue that new practice ó the academy has enlisted a number of Hollywood stars to present awards and other segments during the show: Angela Bassett, Halle Berry, Bong Joon Ho, Don Cheadle, Bryan Cranston, Laura Dern, Harrison Ford, Regina King, Marlee Matlin, Rita Moreno, Joaquin Phoenix, Brad Pitt, Reese Witherspoon, Renťe Zellweger and Zendaya.

So, you know, what with the awards show as a movie concept, thatís the cast. this is Full Frontal as the Oscars and I donít have current plans to watch it but I do think it sounds like something, which is different than other oscar ceremonies indeed. Best original music pre-show Iíll be


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Reply #67 on: April 25, 2021, 05:42:51 PM
A personal essay on the Oscars.

I think I've ranted about this around these parts before, but for decades the Oscars were (literally) the most sacred event of the year on my religious calendar.   Both parents were film-lovers.  Both parents worked at Disney.  Dad eventually became a voting member of the Academy.  I got to attend in person one year, for fucks sake.

So, the annual awards were beyond important.  I went to movies all the time as a kid (often with my Dad), but probably began to achieve Cinema Puberty in 1967 with Cool Hand Luke and Bonnie & Clyde.  My cinematic voice would have deepened with "2001" in 1968 (a landmark moment in my movie life).  (It's also my first sign of film nerdery when I couldn't get enough of Kubrick--on screen and in print.  It represented the first genius that I felt like I discovered myself.)

I remember the Glorious 70s with tremendous fondness--I really cut my eye teeth on those films and those filmmakers. I studied film history, went to movies 3 times a week.  Rep houses were my 2nd home....

Smash cut to the year 2011 when "The Artist" is nominated for 10 Oscars, and wins 5--including Best Picture.   Barf.  The first sign (well, maybe not the first--but one that sticks in my mind) that something is starting to go wrong with AMPAS.  Or Hollywood.  Or both.  Or maybe something's changed in me...?

Things continue to degrade (in the opinion of this narrator) until the present day.  I think the last Oscar cast I paid much attention to was whenever Phantom Thread was nominated.   I didn't watch at all last year--and couldn't tell you who won today.

It's all rather heartbreaking for me.  First-world problem, of course--but I still mourn the loss deeply.

Having said all of that, I was rather touched this morning when my sister (innocently) texted me to ask if I was going to watch tonight.   It afforded yet another opportunity to rush outside and shake my fist at the Oscar-shaped clouds.  But then she responded with these words, and made me--perhaps, maybe--just a tiny bit ashamed about the Grumpy Old Man I've (apparently) become. 

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It's too much of an effort for me to even put into words why the Oscars are still important to me. I understand how you and many people feel. For me it's more wrapped up in the memory and legacy of our family and the love of storytelling, good or bad. That love was passed on to us and then to our girls, so much so that both of them are passionate about expressing themselves through storytelling in some form or another.

I'm just going to watch without judgement and know that mom and dad will be there with me. Movies and any form of art will always change and evolve to reflect the society that creates it. It's all a dance and to me a beautiful expression of a human's ability to create.
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Reply #68 on: April 25, 2021, 05:56:38 PM
I appreciate those thoughts.

Unlike something like the Golden Globes, the Academy Awards' voting pool makes it difficult to completely ignore. Which is I assume why an Oscar means so much to filmmakers ó it's validation & appreciation from their actual peers.

The fact that something like Green Book can win Best Picture exposes how strange and political much of the process is, and the outsized effect an Oscar campaign can have. But I think it's still valid to look for some meaning in many of the smaller awards.
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Reply #69 on: April 25, 2021, 06:14:12 PM
Smash cut to the year 2011 when "The Artist" is nominated for 10 Oscars, and wins 5--including Best Picture.   Barf.  The first sign (well, maybe not the first--but one that sticks in my mind) that something is starting to go wrong with AMPAS.  Or Hollywood.  Or both.

The Artist pissed me off too

as your sister mentions, the Oscars are a healthy concept. jb is right that the people feel happy to be there. I like them in theory and watch their highlights

itís always good when someone likes something. people should like things. Nomadland might win and itís the only nominee Iíve seen so thatís hella convenient for me. Itís um the human spirit as cinematic poetry so itís a solid best picture winner


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Reply #70 on: April 25, 2021, 07:33:02 PM
Iím following the guardian coverage and itís opening as a diss track

https://www.theguardian.com/film/live/2021/apr/25/oscars-2021-the-dresses-the-winners-the-weird-semi-masked-ceremony-in-a-train-station-live

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And now weíre back with King, introducing the best adapted screenplay nominees. And itís the same format. Itís like being a party, being introduced to other people because the person youíre currently talking to has grown bored of you. I sort of hate it.

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And weíre up to our first commercial break. I think, so far, that the best we can hope for tonight is brevity. There is somehow even less atmosphere than the remotely-conducted Baftas tonight, and it might be a mercy for everyone to get this wrapped up in an hour or so.

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Now itís best supporting actor. And OH NO Laura Dern is introducing the nominees one by one like sheís doing a bunch of wedding vows. This is 100% going to be the least-watched Oscars ever. This format means that Iím toying with the idea of bailing, and Iím being paid to watch it.

Iím watching Blood ceremony btw


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Reply #71 on: April 25, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
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Daniel Kaluuya wins best supporting actor For Judas and the Black Messiah. He canít be funny here, because heís literally standing in a train station. Instead, he just thanks loads of people.

I will note, though, that the cutaways to other nominees are particularly brutal this year. Thereís no audience to hide behind, so you just get their full-blast simmering resentment. Leslie Odom Jr in particular seems like heís going to storm off.

Kaluuya is being long-winded, but did at least end his speech by mortifying his entire family by explaining how his parents had sex and created him.

Don Cheadle is here now. Maybe he has a train to catch.

Oh, wait, heís presenting best hair and makeup. Easy mistake to make.

Ouch.
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Reply #72 on: April 25, 2021, 09:11:50 PM
in terms of trying a new thing I think there's going to be lasting heat about the lack of clips, based on conversations outside the awards, in other words that isn't going well with the audience

it feels a bit like every kid gets a trophy because Tenet won then Minari then Mank. there is something special about each of you


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Reply #73 on: April 25, 2021, 10:00:30 PM
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A weird moment now. Usually Best Picture is the culmination of the night. But now itís being quietly chucked out third from last. Thatís a strange choice, isnít it? Whatís going on?


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Reply #74 on: April 25, 2021, 10:13:02 PM
is it Boseman for the end? ooooooh. okay, okay. that's very academy awards 2021