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[Jeremy Blackman]

If I may humbly opine...

Dancer In The Dark and Dogville are absolute must-haves. We also shouldn't forget our love for PDL, Barry Lyndon, Mulholland Drive, and Eyes Wide Shut.

In exchange, I would totally understand if movies like Inland Empire and Palindromes don't end up on our final list.

I would ask for people to find a place for Fire Walk With Me in their hearts, but I don't want to be greedy.

Vertigo is meh.

[jenkins]

because i haven't seen Breaking the Waves in so long i'm not able to answer the question i'm asking: how did Dancer in the Dark surpass it? they're both grief porn but Dancer in the Dark is a more elaborate enterprise with greater creative flourishes?

[Jeremy Blackman]

I SHOULDA CAMPAIGNED FOR YOU, JAKE SCULLY.

I read this as "Jake Sully" and agree. Avatar was robbed.

[jenkins]

i'll take it that you took it as rhetorical

[PinkTeeth]

because i haven't seen Breaking the Waves in so long i'm not able to answer the question i'm asking: how did Dancer in the Dark surpass it? they're both grief porn but Dancer in the Dark is a more elaborate enterprise with greater creative flourishes?

Being that it's a Bjork Musical is what gives it that edge in my opine

[jenkins]

this sounds like me: i want to rewatch Breaking the Waves and rediscover its philosophical shape. the philosophical shape of Dancer in the Dark is rather, you know, slender. there's a good person and a bad person and it's all so like spiritually sweat inducing, it's too much, it's agonizing. i feel as if subtler, more complex shades might exist in Breaking the Waves, but i can't remember

lol i'm anti promoting that movie sorry. when else are we going to talk about these movies

[PinkTeeth]

Hear hear!
Im glad his work's being talked about, that crazy danish bastard

[Axolotl]

lol y'all did great. my personal list wouldn't go past
1939 so i'm just being conversational

You don't mean that. You're just being abrasive i think.

Re: dancer in the dark. I think the depths of bad things happening to good people is worth exploring to its logical conclusion which the movie did while being beautifully musical.

[jenkins]

oh really because here's the only letterboxd list i've ever made. and I talk about this often

everything is worth exploring and I like some movies more than others. what I'm saying is consistent with my character--downer stuff isn't my thing, and I'm not accepting the whole downer "while being beautifully musical" concept. um you know I hope I'm going into fair fights here but you're a serious crowd based on the movies you like. we're just talking about movies

[Axolotl]

Of course i know you're legit. I just think that's a silly thing to say in response to a common denominator list. Sort of seems like bragging.

[jenkins]

in the context of the conversation it was stated as the reason i didn't submit a list and it's accurate. apparently this is a product of it sounding like bragging. i just watch a lot of movies

[Axolotl]

You should have submitted a list. Would have led to a lot of movies you like being in the final 40 including a bunch of asian films.

[Jeremy Blackman]

This thread (and more importantly, this voting/discussion process) is getting a bit derailed, so I'm going to step in here as a moderator to prevent further derailment.

I think we can move on from discussing what should have been nominated (or the extent to which our tastes are distinguished) and instead discuss the topic at hand, which is choosing films from the list of nominations.

[jenkins]

thank you

if it was unclear earlier: I don't believe Breaking the Waves should have been nominated over Dancer in the Dark, I'm just not a fan of Dancer in the Dark and I think its limited although intense perspective disqualifies it from deserving a spot among films chosen as the best and most favorable of all time. this is picking a single movie for conversation, from a further list supplied by jb in relation to his opinions about the nominations. I am not trying to dismantle anyone's sense of self so much as I am trying to speak of the concept of this list. I am overall and consistently appreciative of this entire enterprise launched by ono with good intensions and for community spirit

ah the internet. you're all great, everything is fine

[Axolotl]

Campaigning for:

Buffalo '66 - peak cinema
Come and See: what every war movie like 1917 will try to be but fail to reach even 5% of what made it it. Anti-hollywood.
Morvern Callar: it's even better than you remember. Just rewatched it. The soundtrack on its own is insane.
The Terrorizers: stumbling upon the wall of photographs was one of the most thrilling moments in my moviewatching career